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We should have a cup for reflection, maybe Reflection Master or something, because there is some really good reflection coders.

Maybe a cartoon character facing his reflections IDK?

I am pretty sure that someone who scripts reflection is just as eligable for a regular scripters cup as a non reflection scripter.

From: JAD
I am pretty sure that someone who scripts reflection is just as eligable for a regular scripters cup as a non reflection scripter.

I know what you're saying, but I think his idea isn't bad. I mean, why not have a separate cup for reflection. Now I know virtually nothing about reflection, correct me if I'm wrong, but is it not totally different from the normal scripting methods?

I think it's a neat idea. :)

It is too easy to have a cup for.

From: Coh3n
I know what you're saying, but I think his idea isn't bad. I mean, why not have a separate cup for reflection. Now I know virtually nothing about reflection, correct me if I'm wrong, but is it not totally different from the normal scripting methods?

I think it's a neat idea. :)

No, it is not very different from normal methods. You still have to write a script. No need for this cup.

From: Coh3n
I know what you're saying, but I think his idea isn't bad. I mean, why not have a separate cup for reflection. Now I know virtually nothing about reflection, correct me if I'm wrong, but is it not totally different from the normal scripting methods?

I think it's a neat idea. :)

Reflection just uses the client of runescape to find the ids of everything, correct me if im wrong. This isnt detectable yet but who knows. AFAIK Rsbot does the same thing , but whats good about are reflection is that we can combined it with color for ultimate efficiency.

But yea, we need one of these cups.

@ da owner - Your wrong, For someone who cant even make a color or reflection script YOUR not the one to be talking ;)
2 , its not as easy as you think, it does take as much skill as color does. Its a different style. Totally different way of scripting.

E.G

Scripting i think means
-Color

If findtpa then
begin
choptree;
end;

- Reflection

if findobjectex or w.e then
begin
choptree;
end;

Same concept eh?

Yes! but it does take time actually make a reflection script be efficient , dont get me wrong , color does require skill, but reflection requires the same amount of skill, just kind of a different skill

@mormon, obvisouly your still writing a script, but this cup goes to the people that can write reflection like SRL Masters can write color. Same concept

From: Da 0wner
It is too easy to have a cup for.

Is that right? Maybe I should get reading some TUTs if it's that easy. :p

From: The Cnr Sport
Reflection just uses the client of runescape to find the ids of everything, correct me if im wrong. This isnt detectable yet but who knows. AFAIK Rsbot does the same thing , but whats good about are reflection is that we can combined it with color for ultimate efficiency.

But yea, we need one of these cups.

Rsbot does not do the same thing.

I disagree with this cup.

There is very little difference in the skill.
Personally, I got my azreal from a reflection script… Was that not your point about this cup?

From: Coh3n
I know what you're saying, but I think his idea isn't bad. I mean, why not have a separate cup for reflection. Now I know virtually nothing about reflection, correct me if I'm wrong, but is it not totally different from the normal scripting methods?

I think it's a neat idea. :)

Since no one actually answered your question, yes and no. Reflection uses the same language but different techniques. The real difference is that it takes similar concepts used differently. An example being a TPointArray is used in object finding for colour procedures. Now in reflection it can be used for walking quite easily.

So, see how it's different yet the same?

I disagree as well. Also, isn't reflection not technically part of SRL? As such, would it really be fitting to have an SRL cup for it?

From: Nava2
I disagree with this cup.

There is very little difference in the skill.
Personally, I got my azreal from a reflection script… Was that not your point about this cup?

How is it very little difference? The whole SCRIPT CHANGES! COMPLETELY!

For one, i can code both. Just fine.

But anwser my question, how is it the same.

btw wats azreal, and btw i thought rsbot did the same thing. My fault

Its not a part of srl, but who says you cant get a special "rank" for it?

From: Nava2
Since no one actually answered your question, yes and no. Reflection uses the same language but different techniques. The real difference is that it takes similar concepts used differently. An example being a TPointArray is used in object finding for colour procedures. Now in reflection it can be used for walking quite easily.

So, see how it's different yet the same?

Yes, I do. :)

From: The Cnr Sport
How is it very little difference? The whole SCRIPT CHANGES! COMPLETELY!

He meant the concepts are the same, they're just used differently, that's how they're the same. :)

Regardless, I still think it'd be cool. :p But I really don't know what I'm talking about, I'm just babbling. XD

From: The Cnr Sport

btw wats azreal

Azrael is the SRL Scripter's cup.

From: The Cnr Sport
How is it very little difference? The whole SCRIPT CHANGES! COMPLETELY!

For one, i can code both. Just fine.

But anwser my question, how is it the same.

btw wats azreal, and btw i thought rsbot did the same thing. My fault

Its not a part of srl, but who says you cant get a special "rank" for it?

i just explained how it's not the same but similar. The coding is, not the way it happens. You still use integers strings, for loops, while loops in a reflection script. Just differently. :). haha.

Azreal is the scripting kitty. :). From The Smurfs afaik.

From: senrath
Azrael is the SRL Scripter's cup.

Is it me or does nava2 not have that cup?


But with the azrael cup, you wont be able to tell, if this guys a color, or reflection scripter or both. My point rite there

From: The Cnr Sport
Is it me or does nava2 not have that cup?

He used to, but since his SRL Master cup is the same thing, but a higher rank, it was removed.

From: The Cnr Sport
Is it me or does nava2 not have that cup?


But with the azrael cup, you wont be able to tell, if this guys a color, or reflection scripter or both. My point rite there

^ Good point, and I'm sure his "SRL Master" cup would cover the azrael cup. :p

EDIT: Or what senrath said. :p

From: Coh3n
^ Good point, and I'm sure his "SRL Master" cup would cover the azrael cup. :p

EDIT: Or what senrath said. :p

But , no one anwsered my question.


But with the azrael cup/master, you wont be able to tell, if this guys a color, or reflection scripter or both. My point rite there

From: The Cnr Sport
But , no one anwsered my question.


But with the azrael cup/master, you wont be able to tell, if this guys a color, or reflection scripter or both. My point rite there

Here's my question for you: Does it really matter?

From: The Cnr Sport
But , no one anwsered my question.


But with the azrael cup/master, you wont be able to tell, if this guys a color, or reflection scripter or both. My point rite there

I meant to answer your question with "Good point." :rolleyes: It is a good point, you wouldn't know I guess.

From: Coh3n
I meant to answer your question with "Good point." :rolleyes: It is a good point, you wouldn't know I guess.

hahah, didnt realize.

No ones given me a stead no, accept repeating what others said.


@Senrath, does anything matter. Does srl matter? Does Runescape matter? The answer to those questions are no, they just make people waste there times on computers. Life matters, computers matter, and humans matter.

oh and too be a smart ass..

Do you really matter: Big Fat,ugly NO

If he can code color, he can probably code Reflection.

From: Da 0wner
If he can code color, he can probably code Reflection.

Again, i disagree. Drizzt can code color, i think one of the better ones at SRL.

But he can not even touch reflection, its weird.

if people can code color nicely, why move to reflection?

I think what senrath meant when he said does it really matter is who cares whether everyone knows if you are color or reflection?

Why don't we have a cup distinguishing whether or not you prefer to use dynamic DTM's or you just use regular ones? Why not have a cup to see if people use for loops or while loops instead with a manual counter instead?

I'm not going to say that it "doesn't matter" so that we can avoid the philosophical debate, but it isn't important. Who cares if you script color or reflection; it doesn't need to be distinguished. If you are a good scripter in either category or both, you can get an azrael.

From: JAD
I think what senrath meant when he said does it really matter is who cares whether everyone knows if you are color or reflection?

Why don't we have a cup distinguishing whether or not you prefer to use dynamic DTM's or you just use regular ones?

I'm not going to say that it "doesn't matter" so that we can avoid the philosophical debate, but it isn't important.

Ok you do have a point.

but thats only 1 reason why i think it should be added.

What if peopel cant script color, but want a cup bad?

Nvm.

From: JAD
I think what senrath meant when he said does it really matter is who cares whether everyone knows if you are color or reflection?

Why don't we have a cup distinguishing whether or not you prefer to use dynamic DTM's or you just use regular ones?

I'm not going to say that it "doesn't matter" so that we can avoid the philosophical debate, but it isn't important.

To add… the point being, if you have the Scripting cup, you are an awesome scripter, and it doesn't really matter whether it's in Colors or Reflection.

From: 99_
JAD, that's different.

And someone said something about Reflection not being part of SRL, which technically it's not right now. I think it should be. It's been around for two years, hasn't it? Why can't it be part of SRL officially?

Not even close to 2 years unless I have a completely awful memory.

@coh3n, exactly.

Edit:

@Cnr, (missed post on that page) then if they are a good ref scripter they will get a cup..

From: The Cnr Sport
What if peopel cant script color, but want a cup bad?

Aren't cups suppose to be difficult to get? That's the whole point?

@JAD - :D

From: Coh3n
Aren't cups suppose to be difficult to get? That's the whole point?

@JAD - :D

ok i guess u guys are rite.

I was thinking about something else.. :p sowwy <3

i have officially been

VETOED'

if you make a very complex script with reflection you might get a regular scripters cup.
you're talking about reflection like it was a whole different scripting language? it is not. it's just different functions, thats all. besides, reflection is a lot easier to use than color.

I think there should be cup for no cup :)


~Home
P.S Do not ask ;)

Cause you can get a Scripters Cup with a reflection script ;)
@Da0wner Disagreed totally. I am now better at reflection than color.

T~M

You sucked at color, so it was easy to get better at Reflection. Jk, but in all seriousness, Reflection is not that hard to master…color is a bit more difficult.

Agreed. But if you become a master at ref, then you can make flawless scripts.

T~M

From: Da 0wner
You sucked at color, so it was easy to get better at Reflection. Jk, but in all seriousness, Reflection is not that hard to master…color is a bit more difficult.

Reflection is a challange to master.. Atm theres 2 scripts in this forum that really stands out using reflection(What I would say, master scritps).
Echo fighter made by Narcle and Nava2's Abyssal crafter.
But go ahead and challenge them, after all.. It's not that hard ;)



I got my script kitty from a reflection script, I think?
and I can still do color ;D

From: N1ke!
Reflection is a challange to master.. Atm theres 2 scripts in this forum that really stands out using reflection(What I would say, master scritps).
Echo fighter made by Narcle and Nava2's Abyssal crafter.
But go ahead and challenge them, after all.. It's not that hard ;)



I got my script kitty from a reflection script, I think?
and I can still do color ;D

You can't compare apples with applepie's(<– lol), with color you do 5 times more for a abyssal fighter.

From: Hermen
You can't compare apples with applepie's(<– lol), with color you do 5 times more for a abyssal fighter.

I'm just saying, making a master reflection script ain't easy.
And I never compared it to color?.

From: N1ke!
I'm just saying, making a master reflection script ain't easy.
And I never compared it to color?.

THIS WAS MY POINT, but NO ONE read.

From: The Cnr Sport
THIS WAS MY POINT, but NO ONE read.

The scripting cup covers both the reflection and color scripts.

From: mormonman
The scripting cup covers both the reflection and color scripts.

I know, but people kept saying its so easy to use reflection , to easy for a cup , to easy this . Its not easy, i no this cup idea wont get added, but i want people to get it out of there heads that its the easiest thing in the world to master reflection.

Cnr - Out:p

I dont see how reflection is SOO easy, its not for me xD. Its like a completely new thing when your trying to learn the funcs/procs.

Making a cup for reflection would be a good idea in my opinion, especially for the creaters of the funcs/procs.

From: BobboHobbo
I dont see how reflection is SOO easy, its not for me xD. Its like a completely new thing when your trying to learn the funcs/procs.

Making a cup for reflection would be a good idea in my opinion, especially for the creaters of the funcs/procs.

THANK You. Now why couldnt you of shown up earlier :rolleyes:

Cnr - Out:p

Reflection is learning procedures and functions, not skills.
You want to walk somewhere, get a TPA of the tiles you want to walk on and voila.

Scripting requires learning skills as well as procedures and functions.
You want to walk somewhere, get a RRW (while ensuring you have a good start/end degrees/radius) and in case it doesn't work, have D/DTM's (which are well made to be accurate and work well) and if that doesn't work rely on symbols (which often are not where you need them) or if there's none of that try clicking randomly where you should roughly go and hope you get there (including checks to see whether or not you get there).


Reflection isn't skillful compared to colour scripting - it's primarily a test of your memory. Can you remember which function you need for getting NPC by name on the screen? Can you remember which function you need for gathering the rock objects? That's the extent of what you have to do.

So, in my opinion, a reflection script would have to be above and beyond the colour equivalent to be worthy of any kind of cup.

In my opinion reflection seems like it would be more reliable if people gave it more attention. Seems like a lot of people are down on reflection. Although i agree it's good to know both ways of scripting.

From: jesus45
In my opinion reflection seems like it would be more reliable if people gave it more attention. Seems like a lot of people are down on reflection. Although i agree it's good to know both ways of scripting.

I think that's because the hooks get outdated when RS updates. If the reflection script is good enough, it's worth waiting for the hooks to get undated, IMO.

The Cnr Sport, from what I can see, doesn't look like a lot of people like the idea of a new cup, sorry dude. (Although I think it's not a bad idea. :p). Maybe they'll come around, you never know. ;)

From: Coh3n
I think that's because the hooks get outdated when RS updates. If the reflection script is good enough, it's worth waiting for the hooks to get undated, IMO.

The Cnr Sport, from what I can see, doesn't look like a lot of people like the idea of a new cup, sorry dude. (Although I think it's not a bad idea. :p). Maybe they'll come around, you never know. ;)

I know, i thought it was genius ,and still do, oh well.

Cnr - Out:p