SRL Archive - RS has been updated.

It’s been a while since we updated you on what we are doing to prevent cheating in RuneScape, and particularly to catch and ban macroers, so here’s what’s currently going on:

You’ve probably already noticed while playing the game that there has been a lot less macroing going on over the last year, as we’ve been getting more effective at preventing it. Gone are the days where every tree has an accompanying crowd of bots. However, we’re not resting on our laurels, and in fact we have just strengthened our macro-detection systems yet again. We are about to ban several thousand more accounts for macroing. We have reviewed all the macro programs available, and there are none we cannot detect.

These days we are taking a zero-tolerance approach to macroing. Players caught for macroing don’t receive a warning, or a chance to appeal, or even a last-chance appeal - they are just permanently banned. Don’t make the mistake of believing that we’ll be soft, and that you can get away with it until you are warned. You can’t. Don’t risk your account. By the time you realize you’ve been caught it will be far too late.

Also, high-level and members’ accounts are NOT immune, or given an extra chance. One of the reasons for our RWT changes was precisely so players couldn’t effectively macro on low–level, throwaway accounts to gain wealth. This means they were tempted to macro on their high–level, main accounts instead, which plays straight into our hands as our existing anti-macro systems catch and ban them! This has proven very effective; so far this month we have already banned over 500 high-level accounts with skills in the 80s and 90s. Don’t make your account one of them.

This is a warning to players that would have otherwise been sucked in by the misinformation spread by cheating communities; don’t do it, or you will lose your hard-earned account.

For further information, please refer to the honour section of the Rules of RuneScape.

Source: Runescape.com

uh ohhhhhhhh

My account got banned. I autoed 24/7 and IDC.

Tempting…
I have to make a tut runner and spam rs with lots of bots ^^.

meh, ban shpan.
It only a game.
Also they just saying that ;)

T~M

By the time you realize you’ve been caught it will be far too late.

This made me facepalm-smile.


I anyway don't see why they're focusing on this topic now?

From: EvilChicken!
This made me facepalm-smile.


I anyway don't see why they're focusing on this topic now?

Since our leader made the statement getting them higher level, and buying membership gives more chances, and they wanted to spit him in the face.

From: Hermen
Since our leader made the statement getting them higher level, and buying membership gives more chances, and they wanted to spit him in the face.

No, I mean; why ban the few remaining players instead of focusing on attracting new players?
That makes no sense in my head.

From: EvilChicken!
No, I mean; why ban the few remaining players instead of focusing on attracting new players?
That makes no sense in my head.

I was a little bit joking if you know:rolleyes:
I get your point.

No!! im like under 60 hrs away from 99 fletching

Just got members on an autoing account. Poo, hope I dont get caught, I was stupid autoing last night also. :(

Meh. The only account of mine that I care about is fully legit.

From: senrath
Meh. The only account of mine that I care about is fully legit.

same here. I will never auto on him.

This could be all speculation.

so they already have a list of autoers that they are gonna ban?

K, Sounds good. This will be a test to see if they can catch someone autoing for 2-3 hours every other/ever 3rd day. That is how much I auto on my main…

I haven't stopped macroing and my accounts be only lvl70 tops :) one has 82 fishing and 84 cooking though… Macroez <3 All 100% macroed :)

Good idea: make an RSDeamon type of bot again. Rape the yews. Piss off Jagex moar.

Wonder what they would claim to do then, ban entire IP ranges? ie IP ban 24.*

Holly shit!!! (i know i'm not supouse to swear but i had to)

I'm gonna be baned on my main 100000% sure

Last month I got:
-99 wc
-99 cook
-99 fish
-94 fm

1 more thing guys, does it help if I play legal lots to?
Oh god give me strenght ;)

Well I'm somewhat glad I autoed my stats up while they were giving chances lol. I got 5 temp bans and 3 of them are gone now because of new offense system. lol

From: Harry
Good idea: make an RSDeamon type of bot again. Rape the yews. Piss off Jagex moar.

Wonder what they would claim to do then, ban entire IP ranges? ie IP ban 24.*

Only do that when they start completely owning us, otherwise we will just be irritating them and giving them an excuse to finish us off :p

If some of you guys gets banned please post it here and tell how much and when you boted so that i can compere your things with mine to know a bit what they'll do to me.

Thanks, would appreciate it very much

From: tico2
If some of you guys gets banned please post it here and tell how much and when you boted so that i can compere your things with mine to know a bit what they'll do to me.

Thanks, would appreciate it very much

Don't be absurd.

The amount they ban you for botting can extend from 1hour to 24/7 for a week.

Script quality also matters, and if you were using Rsbot *cough* INSTANT BAN *cough* or SCAR which is by farless detectable.

From: Zodia
Don't be absurd.

The amount they ban you for botting can extend from 1hour to 24/7 for a week.

Script quality also matters, and if you were using Rsbot *cough* INSTANT BAN *cough* or SCAR which is by farless detectable.

I Used Scar with my private Power Miner ^^ 130-+ lines it worked good, I just used it 24/7 and got 64 mining in no-time btw, don't use bumblee's I think his is bannable.

"we&#8217;re not resting on our laurels, "

I read "resting on our Laurens" :/

Ya sure Jakex :P Your anti cheat system:


~Home ;)

Shit.
I thought they had found a way to detect BCEL Bots.

don’t do it, or you will lose your hard-earned account.

I don't get how it's hard earned if we autoed..?

From: DeSnob
I don't get how it's hard earned if we autoed..?

Hahaha owned XD

Well, this kinda sucks. I've been steadily rebuilding my army =(

"There are no cheats in Runescape"

"We've tried all the cheats, and we can detect them all…"

zuh?

From: Zodia
Rsbot *cough* INSTANT BAN *cough*

Incorrect.
I use RsBot, no bans

T~M

Just a question. What's a BCEL bot?

So, its now much easier for jagex to find out autoers?

hehehe :p i autoed last week 5+ hour per day with my main and didnt got banned, ill auto until il get banned and if i get banned ill restart autoing with bether script :) GET the ATTITUDE JaGex Cant catch us, we have too many skilL !.

ANd pleaze, USE script CORRECTLY !!! and you wont be banned.

From: francishelie
hehehe :p i autoed last week 5+ hour per day with my main and didnt got banned, ill auto until il get banned and if i get banned ill restart autoing with bether script :) GET the ATTITUDE JaGex Cant catch us, we have too many skilL !.

ANd pleaze, USE script CORRECTLY !!! and you wont be banned.

Don't be ignorant.

From: tarajunky
"There are no cheats in Runescape"

"We've tried all the cheats, and we can detect them all…"

zuh?

Made my day even tho it was soooo bad :)

still laughing hard lol :D :D :D

jagex seems to have zero tolerance for macroing now, they also banned overall rank 3# (lucipher6) for macroing

Of course, we know they're lying about trying ALL macros. It would be impossible for them to have tried every SCAR script that currently works.

From: senrath
Of course, we know they're lying about trying ALL macros. It would be impossible for them to have tried every SCAR script that currently works.

I agree. :)

IMO they're just saying this to scare us. Sure, they may have improved their detection system, but there's no way they can detect EVERY macro. Or is there?

"We've tried all the cheats, and we can detect them all…"

wait, does that mean that they came to srl?

=o

i feel so violated :s

My skiller got banned.
I didn't macro on him once.

I have an account that's almost 99 str… I better not get banned, I've been autoing on it 15+ hours a day EVERY day… *gulp*

If your smart, then you know this statement means nothing at all, it just means that runescape are scared, and are getting beaten up by bots, if they DO have made a new macro system, you would do like they did in the old rsc… Just make it puplic "today we have banned 10k accounts, bla bla bla" you don´t tell the cheaters you have them right on the scope, they just jump away and hide. you shoot em first :P so take this as nothing else but jagex trying to manipulate with the cheaters (and most of them are stupid enoughe to fall for it) propaganda

From: Cartmann
If your smart, then you know this statement means nothing at all, it just means that runescape are scared, and are getting beaten up by bots, if they DO have made a new macro system, you would do like they did in the old rsc… Just make it puplic "today we have banned 10k accounts, bla bla bla" you don´t tell the cheaters you have them right on the scope, they just jump away and hide. you shoot em first :P so take this as nothing else but jagex trying to manipulate with the cheaters (and most of them are stupid enoughe to fall for it) propaganda

I agree, there's no way to fully detect ALLLLLLL of these autoers… There's nothing that gives us away, we're not manipulating the client or anything.. I also believe it's a scare tactic

i dont believe they will catch us
with reflection and colour scripts can be near enough human like which will be impossible to detect
thus i doubt that aslong as you use good scripts you will get banned

@joeyfeduka: get a better pic of lazytown

~shut

Well I got banned, RSBOT ftl. Bye Bye Super High Lvl char :(.

From: Shuttleu
i dont believe they will catch us
with reflection and colour scripts can be near enough human like which will be impossible to detect
thus i doubt that aslong as you use good scripts you will get banned

@joeyfeduka: get a better pic of lazytown

~shut

I tried to buy the episode on itunes/amazon to get better quality… Can't find it tho =[[

Ok so some of you might be interested in this…

I have (had) an Autoer Army of about 20ish characters. 4 of those 20 I use SCAR on, I use one script and use 4 players so 6 hours a day on each character approximately. The other 16 I just used RSBot on. None of them were left on 24/7, and I always used Anti-Ban. None of them were level 3 in default clothes. None of them were training ONLY 1 skill all the time.

So out of those 20, 16 of them just got banned. Guess which ones? None of the accounts I use SCAR on have been banned.

So yeah, I guess Jagex has cracked down on Java Bots that are extremely detectable. As for SCAR… well… it still lives on :)

They can only ban you if they are certain that you auto, only way to make sure you actully do auto is to look inside your computer.
^Long story short: There always be a 1 out of a million chance ect…
Also, they claim to have test our dear Scar?, Hope they got the latest version.

I say their faking, like always. But you never know.

From: N1ke!
They can only ban you if they are certain that you auto, only way to make sure you actully do auto is to look inside your computer.
^Long story short: There always be a 1 out of a million chance ect…
Also, they claim to have test our dear Scar?, Hope they got the latest version.

I say their faking, like always. But you never know.

could be explaining our dear c0de's strange behavior?

From: r3dr4g0n
Ok so some of you might be interested in this…

I have (had) an Autoer Army of about 20ish characters. 4 of those 20 I use SCAR on, I use one script and use 4 players so 6 hours a day on each character approximately. The other 16 I just used RSBot on. None of them were left on 24/7, and I always used Anti-Ban. None of them were level 3 in default clothes. None of them were training ONLY 1 skill all the time.

So out of those 20, 16 of them just got banned. Guess which ones? None of the accounts I use SCAR on have been banned.

So yeah, I guess Jagex has cracked down on Java Bots that are extremely detectable. As for SCAR… well… it still lives on :)

Wow.

I know I won't be using RSBot anymore.

Now we need something new to help us get IDs and Tiles with ease – Someone hack BenLand's computer so we can get the SMART source :D Jk. Benland, please, in one way or another, help us get a client as good as RSBot's was/is. Please? With :norris: on top?

I stillz macro =D…. its when you hav like 5 different high lvs, it's not too much of a worry ^^. always fun pking =D

*Gulp* i just stopped ruski's fighter on my main, lol now im gonna do some legit… omfg what is BCEL? is that rsbot? OMFG i'm screwed

all of my 100% botted chars are ok so far. :) hopefully they will remain that way.

I just checked like 15 of my accounts that I have 24/7 botted, and none are banned, and I honestly don't think they will be.

Propaganda.

lol enjoy your false fear.

Defil3d is banned for macro, and so are many other top 100 people =0. Those are maybe threats?

Yeahhh, I think Jagex is bluffing, why would they go right out and say

However, we’re not resting on our laurels, and in fact we have just strengthened our macro-detection systems yet again.

I could understand them saying that they have gone to zero tolerence, but why say that they have made their detection system stronger…

From: mormonman
I just checked like 15 of my accounts that I have 24/7 botted, and none are banned, and I honestly don't think they will be.

U do u have a computer running 24/7 at home :O ?

Or just vps or someting ?

——————————-

Luckily, i autoed full void before update <3

detection system stronger…

easy, They hired more bots,… I mean staff members, to watch player actions, and log suspicious activities.

I've been reading over the Runescape forums and some of things mods are posting are rather hilarious. Like this one:

From: Mod Howes
As others have already correctly said - not only is there clear evidence that the botting "community" has been heavily mauled by our macro detection pwnage, but it's also nigh on impossible for a regular player to tell if someone is genuinely a macroer or not. I can think of hundreds of times that I've been called a botter on my home account when I've been quietly skilling with my chat off! ;)

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't see much evidence that SRL has been, well, "mauled" by this update.

Guess I wont be getting 94 magic ever on my main.

If it gets really bad, can we all just -rape- runescape's yew trees like RSdemon did?
Piss em off?

From: senrath
I've been reading over the Runescape forums and some of things mods are posting are rather hilarious. Like this one:
I don't know about anyone else, but I don't see much evidence that SRL has been, well, "mauled" by this update.

Keyword: SRL.

EDIT: RSBot got DESTROYED by the update.

Take this for example: http://www.rsbot.org/vb/showthread.php?t=63186

EDIT: Uh-oh

Lost my accounts that i didn't even auto on too…

Also, nobody use the RSBot client (I already did, eek!). There's suspicions that just using it can get you banned.

Eh, I don't really pay attention to RSBot. I try to stay away from anything that modifies the client.

From: senrath
Eh, I don't really pay attention to RSBot. I try to stay away from anything that modifies the client.

Exactly, that's the only way they could have "strengthened" their detection system, is by improving the detection of modifying the client…. I think we're totally safe =D, I'm going to resume botting now.

Lol im here from Rsbot. You guys are so lucky, jagex is killing our whole community. The whole place is in panic.

Wow RSBot got destroyed. Yikes!

i started here, moved to rsbot, now I m a lost soul =[

should have read the updates before running rsbot for 6hours today ='[[[

Good thing I told my friend not to DL RSBot… his 110 woulda been gone X_X

personally im not worried about it, scar is pretty fairbut then again if you abuse it sure youll get banned, but with rs bot too if u abuse youll get banned.. theyres no real way to know if we know they know were autoing or not. im sure they've seen our fourms and rsbot fourms but honestly if they really wanted to take action they woulda did it along time ago… just trying to scare us off….

From: Beau
personally im not worried about it, scar is pretty fairbut then again if you abuse it sure youll get banned, but with rs bot too if u abuse youll get banned.. theyres no real way to know if we know they know were autoing or not. im sure they've seen our fourms and rsbot fourms but honestly if they really wanted to take action they woulda did it along time ago… just trying to scare us off….

Well not totally, RSBot HAS been getting smashed heavily, so they're not just talkin shit.

False False False.

Why are they saying this? Its because a shit load of legit players are switching to rsbot. That recent update they did was to fuck up rsbot, which btw failed.

As long as they keep letting us have access to there client, and cache… theres no stopping us.

Its just something to make all legit players whom are switching to botting think. IF you get banned, well GF you lost.

Continue botting.

From: kingarabian
False False False.

Why are they saying this? Its because a shit load of legit players are switching to rsbot. That recent update they did was to fuck up rsbot, which btw failed.

As long as they keep letting us have access to there client, and cache… theres no stopping us.

Its just something to make all legit players whom are switching to botting think. IF you get banned, well GF you lost.

Continue botting.

Why have RSBot and Nexux/Ibot users been mass banned then though :\

From: Runescapian
Why have RSBot and Nexux/Ibot users been mass banned then though :\

A mass ban doesn't mean updated detection rules. Jagex does this all the time - it isn't like they caught 12,000 or whatever accounts in one day or even a week, it just means they slacked off on the banning for a little while and then do it all at once.

…I guess I'm going to fix my signature.

From: Runescapian
Why have RSBot and Nexux/Ibot users been mass banned then though :\

Not mass. Ive seen worse with Aryan and AutoRune.

They just caught people running rsbot/ibot while it was bugged completely.

maybe some of it aint true. they might just want to scare us ^^

And this is an awesome time for SCAR and SRL to advance majorly over RSBOT.

wow, this is like the stock crash in 1929 :P runescape just miss 30.000 hard working labour to keep the prices, i would invest if i where you …

I've autoed a lot at Aviansies the last month, and I'm still going strong ;)
And yes, it's using reflection.

Honestly, do you guys even bother to read the article posted on Runescape.com? It clearly stated that they were gathering a list of botters and will ban them soon, not now, however.

I, for one, just hope that i don't get banned as-well since i have only macroed for 2 days (first time in a while) under one hour, just to get some coal with me watching SMART most of the time and have been responding to any phrases mentioned.

lol, I don't care at all. Main reason I do anything with runescape is scripting/scar/srl. On top of that, I've never once gotten banned for macroing. imo they are just trying to scare us.

It's time to make Scar Private forums now.

From: senrath
Meh. The only account of mine that I care about is fully legit.

I feel exactly the same (even though I rarely play these days)

Odd, I have gone to medical school decided to pop in and see whats new. I am sure my post count has halved :(

Lucipher got banned. I dont.

allz i got to say is jagex bring it on.

relax guys, scar without smart cannot be detected if you use proper scripts. this is because most bots recieve info from the rs client, while scar is just clicking colors.

but crap, is reflection safe anymore? i just started making a fisher and my main is fishing with reflection atm :(

lol scar being scar means they cant detect it they can detect some of them but the way it is made made every script is unique and like another bot so jagex cant win us

From: marpis
relax guys, scar without smart cannot be detected if you use proper scripts. this is because most bots recieve info from the rs client, while scar is just clicking colors.

but crap, is reflection safe anymore? i just started making a fisher and my main is fishing with reflection atm :(

Most likely safe. Most people here probably use SMART, and there have barely been any bans, so…

Can't Jagex just download the scripts here and use them to check against botters to see if they're following a certain script?

But there are SO MANY scripts - it would take Jagex ages!

Maybe we should close off the SRL library from the public so Jagex can't access it.

But anyhow, we should try to make Smart seem like it is actually part of the runescape window. And if that doesn't work, we should use sequences in the scripts which mix up the order in which actions are performed. I.e. randomly perform tasks in different orders instead of the same every time.

But I stopped my bot the day before the update came out… I hope I'll be safe =(

From: Seizure
Maybe we should close off the SRL library from the public so Jagex can't access it.

But anyhow, we should try to make Smart seem like it is actually part of the runescape window. And if that doesn't work, we should use sequences in the scripts which mix up the order in which actions are performed. I.e. randomly perform tasks in different orders instead of the same every time.

But I stopped my bot the day before the update came out… I hope I'll be safe =(

Why is everyone so naive? If you have botted in the past couple months, you have a high chance of being banned. Just because you escaped the banhammer for a day or two, doesn't mean they won't ban you next week.

From: Runescapian
Wow.

I know I won't be using RSBot anymore.

Now we need something new to help us get IDs and Tiles with ease – Someone hack BenLand's computer so we can get the SMART source :D Jk. Benland, please, in one way or another, help us get a client as good as RSBot's was/is. Please? With :norris: on top?

You can not put Chuck Norris on top, he will smite you.

And I agree, I was around for all the mass account bans of RSC, they would tell you flat out if they were so certain. They may have cracked down on bots such as RSBot, but SCAR will live on!

Seriously though, it doesn't matter how much Jagex updates, SCAR is so malleable that it would be an impossible feat to stump us entirely. SCAR bots can be rebuilt a thousand times, as they are versatile scripts; so easily redesigned and adapted. And SCAR, in this day in age, can be scripted to replicate human actions, so precisely, that, so long as you're intelligent enough to auto with care, and this community thrives with intellectual scripters, it is impossible to stop SCAR botters altogether, without banning accounts with little to no evidence, in which case Jagex will crumble.

It's a shame that when releasing SCAR, Kaitnieks didn't realize the potential of such a simple color clicker.
I mean look at what SCAR stands for ;).

EDIT: Inspiration, no?:

From: Kaitnieks

19.01.2006 Yet another Mass Ban
It's happened yet again, another mass ban except this time as I predicted in RS2 (Think I outta go into fortune telling?), This time the bannage was multiplied by 10, over 15k accounts were banned under JageX's new Shiny Macro Detecting System. As usual we will all mope around and think this is the rapture but eventually some genius will come and take us all into the Garden of Macroing. The best to handle this situation is by not over reacting and acting calmly. Do NOT panic because that is what JageX wants you to do

yeah if they think your a botter an your name is on that list.. your a dead man. dosnt matter when they get around to it, but they will ban you eventualy =/

They talking about those nerdy chinese botters lol
and prolly RSBOT

scar is safe and always will be!

I'm smart enough to spit out a statement like that, yet it took me a minute to realize that the bug in Joker's signature was not actually on my screen, lol.

For those talkin about smart and reflection not being safe. I smite you.

Smart + reflection does not modify the client in anyway like rsbot… reflection reads the client.

ok… so how exactly does RS bot work then? i thought that it just read the client to..

Nope rsbot injects into the client.

Bring it on y'buggers.

:)

We are fine, we have the best of the best. Let em try.

Who's afraid of the big bad wolf?

Runescape will not be able to find out if were are autoing and stop us. They could stop reflection be changing their client's security.
Scar is a color finding program. It finds color just like the human eye and clicks it :p

They actually could effectively halter smart for a tiny bit if they use the "go through website" thing, but that would be easy to fix.

They actually banned Lucipher, the 3rd best player in RS for macroing today, but after 6 hours, unbanned him. That's sounds like a warning. I'm still botting everyday: 5/7 hours

lol at this thread… told ya typing random shit is dumb… there are too many noobs on rs.
http://forum.runescape.com/forums.ws?15,16,701,58968373

6-11-09 Rest in peace SRL

From: naryasha
6-11-09 Rest in peace SRL

Um….What? There could no falser statement than that ^^….

[quote=Some Idiot on Runescape's forums]ok auto responder. next they could be programed to log out after 10 minutes and go to a new world

jagex mods should be carefull with these bots take them out now not later [/quote]

Ah, it amuses me how ignorant most players are about bots, especially when information is so easy to find.

Rsbot should be safe to…

Autoing strong atm. Jagex cant and wont stop us, they know the consequences that without botters the economy of runescape would suffer mightly. That "update" was just to scare all new autoers to go back to playing legit.

From: kingarabian
Rsbot should be safe to…

Autoing strong atm. Jagex cant and wont stop us, they know the consequences that without botters the economy of runescape would suffer mightly. That "update" was just to scare all new autoers to go back to playing legit.

Actually, it seems that RSBot was hit pretty hard by this update.

From: senrath
Ah, it amuses me how ignorant most players are about bots, especially when information is so easy to find.

seriously..

hell, we can do that in like what? <10 lines of code?

From: akwardsaw
seriously..

hell, we can do that in like what? <10 lines of code?

Lets see, at it's most simplistic it would use:

repeat //line 1
  MarkTime(time); //line 2
  repeat //line 3
  *whatever code you want to do*
  until(TimeFromMark(time) > 600000) //line 4
  ChangeWorld(RandomWorld(Members, PvP)); //line 5
until(whatever) //line 6

There. At it's most simplistic, it would take 6 lines (not counting the code for actually doing something) to change worlds every 10 minutes.

My new scripts I make change worlds every certain number of something (kills, loads, etc.)
It helps stop getting randoms period/that often depending on how long you auto and great for antiban.

From: senrath
Actually, it seems that RSBot was hit pretty hard by this update.

Not affecting me at all.

Mining clay in west varrock mines.

Fight caving.

Botting yews.

I have to use rsbot since it doesnt rape your ram.

A bluff IMO.

We have reviewed all the macro programs available, and there are none we cannot detect.

I dont see how they can detect SCAR, if you really think of it… There is no way they catch you unless they look at our files and scripts. Then use our scripts and monitor where the script clicks and what it does to ban us..

Or they just see where abouts you click and if you repeatitively click the same area's for a certain amount of time. boom ban hammer. Seems like the only thing that would make sence.

Experiment:
Im going to manually get stuck behind a fence of some sort and click continously for 10 minutes then logout. Just like SCAR would xD.

From: Home
Ya sure Jakex :P Your anti cheat system:


~Home ;)

HAHA! I would think that is what they have.:D

/*                     Before anyone says anything,
    I didn't declare preprocessor directives, namespace std, or variables
*/

int main()
{
cout<<"Do you use RSBOT or IBOT/NEXUS";
cin>>a;

if (a=="yes")
cout<<"you are a moron, your accounts will probably get banned";

if (a=="no")
cout<<"your account didn't get banned, congratulations";
}

They probably recorded a bunch of patterns of the most used RSBot scripts and made a comparison check on a offline bot to see if the patterns are similar and within the margin of error. Then they probably did a mass ban on all the accounts that resulted true. A woodcutting script on RSBot has like 600k views so they can effectively ban a lot of macros. Coupled with removing the appeal offense feature, only the legit players are going to take the time to appeal their ban. You can still appeal your ban as there are still ways to contact Jagex, even Jagex confirmed this on the RSOF and out-right said that only legit players will take the time to find out how to appeal.

At least this is my theory. Lucipher6 was unbanned also, so it proves that either their system is not 100% accurate (which we know for sure, it is not) or that Lucipher6 was macroing with a bot and he got lucky (we will never know if he did, or if he used RSBot or SCAR or any other bot).

Edit: So I guess if you get banned on a very good account, you should find out how to contact Jagex. Maybe someone who is bothered enough will figure it out and post.

Some people should take one wise thing, Rsbot does not "suck", scar is not "uber" they are 2 different things, if you can code good, and you use your brains, you can out smart the system, and if someone again says "RSBOT SUCKS!!!!", seriously GTFO you don't know what you are saying, btw I never visited their site or used it, but if you can code well, you can outsmart the system.

I see this as a bluff and technicality.

We have reviewed all the macro programs available, and there are none we cannot detect.

Of course you can detect ALL of them. There is no single mainstream RS macroing compiler that has had 0 bans because of it. SCAR has had multiple accounts banned, but not because of this new system they have in place.

If they are being serious about being able to detect any available program, then those who want to bot should learn how to program and keep some scripts private. They aren't going to read those. If they do, we can just make hundreds of incoherent scripts[1] and hide the real ones in the mass of them.

The only way Jagex can rid themselves of 100% of bots is if they hire people to stand behind us and watch us play, or kill RuneScape. Neither of which will happen.

I have an account I've played legitimately on 100% of the time since the dawn of his existence. He has over 60M total exp, a 30M+ bank value, and over 2 90+ skills. He has been free from all autoing interactions. If he's banned, IDC. The last time I played RS for more than 20 minutes straight was months ago.

So, it's a trade off. Learn how to code better in this language, and better coding practices overall for free- I don't have to pay for membership- or pay $5/month and let my brain rot clicking random rocks/altars.

I think my choice is clear. ;)

[EDIT]
[1]

Program Woodcutter;

end;
for Integer in each
var aaaaa;
begin
if(i<=99)do
  each(84);
//etc.

No chance of compiling, completely incoherent, but a few hundred of them surrounding legitimate programs makes it near impossible for Jagex to find the real one(s), assuming they are sniffing out private programs, which has a next-to-nothing chance of happening anyway. XD

From: Runescapian
Most likely safe. Most people here probably use SMART, and there have barely been any bans, so…

that and people dont worry just use bad scripts on bad accounts then fix them and if theyre good enough then use other accs. (always have an army)

So funny, I was watching a YouTube video, someone made a click-mouse script fletcher.
A comment was :

thats so detectable…dont use SCAR&#65279; use rsbot

See it depends how you script and not the bot.

Who cares? It depends on the script, we're not the RsBot community, are we? Should we care? This update has mainly hit the clients that hack the rs client, their ban system may be a little stronger at detecting srl scripts, but, as a community we should work together and learn to create even more better, un-detectable scripts. SRL isn't going to die from this measly update, they basically want to scare us, and discourage autoers.

SmarterC.

I really hate when Yagex says something than acts otherwise. They said they will ban all players no matter how high their rank is. Take this for instance:

Lucipher6 banned and than unbanned. I don't that is fair. What is the reason for unbanning him:

1. They made a mistake (if they made a mistake doesn't matter because there is no chance for him to appeal and for Yagex to look in the case again)

2. Last chance chance appeal (there is no last chance appeal for ALL player, why should there be one for him)

Some of you might say: he's rank 3, they can't just ban him. Well I say, why not? Let's even give him an award for being the best macro in the world…

I'm not saying we deserve to be banned, I'm just saying that rules should be the same for all of us and that Yagex should keep their own promises.

tico2, there are ways to appeal, Jagex said if any legit player gets banned then the legit person will care enough to contact Jagex another way. Not only that, but Lucipher6 got someone to post on the RSOF …

Watch out! Next thing you know, Jagex will be tapping our webcams! Oh my God! He's not in front of the computer; INSTA-BAN!

I think this update is stupid, in there macro update, it says members will be perm-banned also, that's not an update, my member got perm'd like a month or two ago. It's be happening for a little while now, and a bunch other people got their accounts banned around the same time also. It's only an update to non-autoers, people who don't know what's going on with macro, like they're just finding out now from JaGex, I found out a while ago from experience. So this isn't something new to worry bout. But they did accept my last chance appeal, so either they lied bout that to scare people out of autoing, or the no auto last chances is new.

Anyone know if SMART is safe?
It loads the client directly and stuff, so, anyone know?

From: bloodargon
Anyone know if SMART is safe?
It loads the client directly and stuff, so, anyone know?

It is safe. Lots of people use it.. if it wasn't, there would be more bans, don't you think?

From: Colluci
It is safe. Lots of people use it.. if it wasn't, there would be more bans, don't you think?

Lots of people do drugs, so they are safe?
And besides, people cause a lot of rumors, and represent things falsely.
I was looking for a more technical aspect.

In java there is a way to detect what the java is being ran from, getDocumentBase() or something, so that would be an easy fix for anyone using bots, since they can just build a list of browsers and such, and start blacklisting anything that isnt, or just flag accounts, making it easier to catch.

From: bloodargon
Lots of people do drugs, so they are safe?
And besides, people cause a lot of rumors, and represent things falsely.
I was looking for a more technical aspect.

In java there is a way to detect what the java is being ran from, getDocumentBase() or something, so that would be an easy fix for anyone using bots, since they can just build a list of browsers and such, and start blacklisting anything that isnt, or just flag accounts, making it easier to catch.

No smarts safe dont worry.

if jagex looks in our computers, theyd better not mess with my ****ing porn stash, those mother ****ers…

anyways i heard rank 3 was banned?

From: Deathscytex
if jagex looks in our computers, theyd better not mess with my ****ing porn stash, those mother ****ers…

anyways i heard rank 3 was banned?

and unbanned…

Nice one with the porn and stuff :D

From: mormonman
lol at this thread… told ya typing random shit is dumb… there are too many noobs on rs.
http://forum.runescape.com/forums.ws?15,16,701,58968373

lol at the bridge boy kid in there

ok auto responder. next they could be programed to log out after 10 minutes and go to a new world

jagex mods should be carefull with these bots take them out now not later

lol wow never heard of that before oh noes logging out :eek:

A friend of mine had his high level account banned(members). He has another member account still going strong. Funny thing is, his high level account was on the old members subscription amount but the new one is on a higher subscription. Both have been autoed on but only one banned. Hmmmm, coincidence?;)

So is it safe to auto? I'm just waiting for everything to clear up…

From: Seizure
So is it safe to auto? I'm just waiting for everything to clear up…

I still am, just keep to the age old rule - do not macro on a account you value.

I'm botting atm, did 50-60 attack in like 12 hours of botting.

old propaganda is old. I've been using a falador cow script that uses DEFAULT Scar functions and self made ones, since 2003. Not one fucking ban.
Jagex are just using the old propaganda machine to get their 9 year old members to STFU about their terrible economy. Welcome to Commu-Scape.

Not one of my pures are banned, hell they even have sexual names without a ban, while they're on the high scores for Bounty hunter rogue and normal hunting.

From: The Man
meh, ban shpan.
It only a game.
Also they just saying that ;)

T~M

That's the spirit!

+1 Rep XD

oh dear .. just got back from school, first time i have looked at the rs website in ages and saw this. Looks like i shouldnt have left my main ranging for the past 10 hrs lol

From: bgxsaer
Why is everyone so naive? If you have botted in the past couple months, you have a high chance of being banned. Just because you escaped the banhammer for a day or two, doesn't mean they won't ban you next week.

Lol, your just as naive to assume that people have a high chance of being banned…

Just wait for the evidence.

Do you guys even have your own strategies, i personally bot like this….

1-2 Hours a day … (this is if you wanna bot like everyday.)
3-4 hours, twice a week. (this if you bot like 2-3 times a week).
7 Hours(overnight), once a week (not recommended to use this, but you can if you do it once in a while).

The longer you bot the less you bot.

I've been botting for years now, never once got cought. IMO it is because I personally change the scripts up each time I bot.
I wonder if I will get banned after an 8 hour botting session:

[—————————————————————————————-]
[ June 17th, 2009, 06:41:48 AM ]
[—————————————————————————————-]
[ >>> Zephyr's Draynor Yew Gatherer Ver 2.2 <<< ]
[—————————————————————————————-]
[ Total Time Running: 8 Hours, 1 Minutes and 5 Seconds ]
[ Total Loads Done: 40 ]
[ Yews Chopped and Banked: 1119 ]
[ Chopping Rate: 140 Logs/Hr ]
[ Total Experience Gained: 195825 ]
[ Experience Rate: 24423 Exp/Hr ]
[ Woodcutting Levels Gained: 0 ]
[ WalkBacks: 0 ]
[ World Switches: 0 ]
[ Auto Responses: 16 ]
[ Current World: 93 ]
[—————————————————————————————-]
[ | Nick | Act | Loc | Wc Lvl | Axe | Loads | Logs | Time ]
[ o | cmas | F | Lost - BankToTrees Failed | 87 | Rune | 40 | 1119 | 480 min ]
[—————————————————————————————-]

Thanks for using Zephyr's Draynor Yew Gatherer…
Successfully executed

@osmm I've been autoing 6-12 hours a day for ~2 months and I'm not banned.

Since the update though I've been playing it safe by botting fletching in Soul Wars, this way Randoms don't get me until I come out :)

EDIT: Lol. I got banned.

Whatever JaGeX says is bullshit, they have made multiple posts like this saying, we will kill macroing… Okay, some other bottingprograms may have died over the past few years, but SCAR has been going on for a good amount of time, and is still going on, SCAR (and SRL) keeps getting updated, and scripts variate way too much to detect all this.

For the people asking if SMART is safe, if SRL is safe, if SCAR is safe… NO, it's not safe, there have been people banned by using SCAR, and there will be more in the future, if you care about your precious Runescape account, don't bot, easy as that.

I recently got banned I am starting to think they are serious, but I am probably one of the unlucky people :(

Total bluff from JaGex. Knew it from the moment i saw that article.

Unless they make Runescape completely in black and white they won't stop SCAR/SRL.
And besides, even if they do, how are they going to stop Reflection… Auto-flag your account when you click an object?

WTF? there will allways be botters… when there's a chance to do something the easy way there will always be a select few who will take the initiative to do it, so that the select few become a select 54,000…. thus, we have SRL

errrmmm….. jageks is goin down cuz i macroes almost 24/7 an they say they can detect anythin???

From: The_Missing_Nin
errrmmm….. jageks is goin down cuz i macroes almost 24/7 an they say they can detect anythin???

Wtf?! I ain't a good speller but this… :p

From: The Man
meh, ban shpan.
It only a game.
Also they just saying that ;)

T~M

for the most part i agree. The new system really isn't that new. Oviously they won't release whats new but we didn't really even know what was old. it is true that more and more people are getting banned. and i am fairly sure that rsbot is detectable now. not sure how it works though.

I'm going to post instead of reporting your post this time, just because you dont seem like a spammer, it might have been an honest mistake.

This thread is obviously old. The current month is september (month 9) and this thread is from month 6 (june) so it's probably old news to everyone.

Next time, check the date :)