is it possible for main to be banned if cheating on noob account?
chaosoffear
2006-12-30 05:06:00
as topic title says, is it possible?
if i auto on a noob account, then go on to my main.. if the noob account is banned will my other accounts be also?
because during the mass banning, i remember them saying that if a player creates a throw away account just for cheating.. then the main would be banned also, how is this possible? do they detect through IP?
and is there any sure fire way around this?
interested to know, thanks.
Killerdou
2006-12-30 06:23:48
i dont think they actually ban all acounts that have been used on a certain IP but they do IP ban…(which means you cant acces anything from jagex with your IP)
Yakman
2006-12-30 07:02:56
those mass bans were with aryan, that really annoyed jagex
but scar doesnt piss them off so much, you never get an IP ban and other accounts dont get banned unless they catch you transfering items to them
chaosoffear
2006-12-30 08:30:56
From: Yakman
those mass bans were with aryan, that really annoyed jagex
but scar doesnt piss them off so much, you never get an IP ban and other accounts dont get banned unless they catch you transfering items to them
funny you should mention that, i have actually traded money between accounts before with no problems. Now i just drop trade, done it at least 6+ times.
Anyway, just wanted to know if you can get other accounts banned with SCAR.. I'll continue using it on my noob if my main is always safe.
They ban IP?, i can change that even on cable that i use. But why would they ban IP and not an account? :confused: .
But if there are no stories of anyone being banned on their main by using scar on a noob then its fine.
Pmh1000
2006-12-30 10:04:16
supposedly they were saying that if you get enough accounts banned on your ip that you would get an ip ban. i doubt they will and havent heard of a case like that after the mass bans due to aryan. if that does happen just blame a sibling. say that you, your main, is a legit player and you have never cheated and that should remove the ip ban on it.
botmaster
2006-12-30 10:29:43
Geh, just use DCHP Dynamic IP. :D. And auto unsigned, then you'll be fine cause they cant log your IP then XD.
Never heard of a case of an IP ban ever before. Just heard rumors 'bout it, but never ever heard of a concrete case. You shouldn't have a problem. Make sure you take all preautions though, I always go a tadbit paranoid when its about my main :). Oh, and delete Jagex cookies. Not sure, but I think they use them when you auto signed.
xxlegitxx
2006-12-30 21:59:57
From: chaosoffear
funny you should mention that, i have actually traded money between accounts before with no problems. Now i just drop trade, done it at least 6+ times.
Don't drop trade to your main. Jagex can tell. Try PK trading, cheap item swapping, or anything less suspicious.
chaosoffear
2006-12-30 22:20:23
From: xxlegitxx
Don't drop trade to your main. Jagex can tell. Try PK trading, cheap item swapping, or anything less suspicious.
i sent a message to jagex asking if it was ok to trade to my brother (lol) he said it was fine, as long as nobody reports for item scamming.. hmm.. :confused:
anyway, i could change my IP each time i log in to each account, i can only change my ip about 2-3 times a day though or it wont work again.. i dont think im allowed to do it on this cable but i do it through my router.
so i think ill just change IP when i use different accounts, it will be awkward though.
How do i delete jagex cookies? just delete cookies in temp internet files?.
thanks all.
xxlegitxx
2006-12-31 15:33:31
If you don't know how to, don't do it. Just log the noob on unsigned and the main on signed. You don't have to worry about IP's that way.
Plugster
2006-12-31 23:23:00
In my aryan flaxxing days i use to get mass banned all the time, it was actually stated as an ip ban but id lose a hell of a lot of account, they would be lucky to last 24-48 hours, then near the end as quick as id created them they were banned, even with my dynamic ip, but i just put that down to lazyness and not deleting the uid all of the time, but hey i did used to go threw 100 accounts a week so that may have been y :)
oliver1205
2007-01-03 19:40:48
they wont get you for scar. for aryan, arga etc they will
japman
2007-01-03 20:36:32
i have never heard of a SCAR account being banned but if ur main ever does blame it on your brother (lie if u dont have one) or something.
Justin5
2007-01-11 20:38:30
My friend got ip banned with the Aryan mass ban. It was weird though, they banned his main (122) and all of his noobs except for 1.
I doubt they will ip ban for SCAR though
Ruroken
2007-01-11 22:51:17
From: Yakman
other accounts dont get banned unless they catch you transfering items to them
Happened to me, lost 1mil and 400k worth of runes….
Zorlin
2007-01-12 11:34:57
Stupid question… even if you use unsigned, can't JAGeX see where the packets are coming from? 8-)
From: Zorlin
Stupid question… even if you use unsigned, can't JAGeX see where the packets are coming from? 8-)
Yes but they can't tell from what computer they're coming from ;-)
That way you can claim it was someone else in internet caffe or your brother on a shared internet connection … :)
d3hm3d
2007-01-27 12:09:08
From: chaosoffear
funny you should mention that, i have actually traded money between accounts before with no problems. Now i just drop trade, done it at least 6+ times.
lol i drop traded only once and then lost 450k =[
Hobbit
2007-01-27 20:28:32
From: c0de
Yes but they can't tell from what computer they're coming from ;-)
That way you can claim it was someone else in internet caffe or your brother on a shared internet connection … :)
yah like if u sign in with signed app…look up where it tell u the last ip u logged on as…with signed it says like : 123.45.67.334 (and here the specific comp on network) etc etc…..with unsigned it would only say 123.45.567.334….so they dont know where in the network ur comin from:D
Agent
2007-01-27 21:26:09
I know they check your IP because when you log in it says the last IP address you logged in from. As for banning mains through it, I have no idea.
Hobbit
2007-01-27 23:04:02
From: Agent
I know they check your IP because when you log in it says the last IP address you logged in from. As for banning mains through it, I have no idea.
yes but if you use unsigned client…the scss client with scar automatically uses that….but anyway if you use unsigned then they can only see network ip and they cant tell where on the network ur comin from
From: c0de
That way you can claim it was someone else in internet caffe or your brother on a shared internet connection …
so liek as c0de said…just say its internet caffĂ© or a shared connection
duther
2007-01-29 17:41:32
They do ban mains for hacking on other accounts. However, although they could use IPs for finding the connection between both accounts, at the moment they seem to be using mainly the uid. You can find your uid file at C:/windows/.filestore32. Delete (or rename) it before using the autoer and before using the main, and you will be safer.
Hobbit
2007-01-29 20:24:24
well if you auto with the unsigned client like freddy1990's scss client that comes with scar the uid isnt played on ur comp…and then you dont need to worry about deleteing uid if ur unsure of what ur doing…plus its safer for you to auto on unsigned client to begin with
ange vashes
2007-01-30 13:22:31
Wow and all this time i thought id get banned like the second day i use scar rofl
ange vashes
2007-01-30 13:36:46
what is scss and how i get it?
ange vashes
2007-01-30 13:40:16
soz double post
ange vashes
2007-01-30 13:50:53
From: duther
They do ban mains for hacking on other accounts. However, although they could use IPs for finding the connection between both accounts, at the moment they seem to be using mainly the uid. You can find your uid file at C:/windows/.filestore32. Delete (or rename) it before using the autoer and before using the main, and you will be safer.
I don't seem to have the thing called .filestore32 or anything filestore so wat else can it be under?
ange vashes
2007-01-30 13:54:15
Since i have japanese parts in my comp from best buy since it broke its C:\ drive was changed to an I:\ drive so does that mean the uid isnt on my comp? the C:\ on it is not the memory stick slot.
legendaryhero90
2007-01-30 17:21:05
the answer is no!
but i was too dumb and autoed with my main account anywayz and got it banned!:duh:
Hobbit
2007-01-30 23:22:31
answers to ange vashes questions:
1. go into the includes folder in scar…then open the srl folder…then in there will be a folder called scss open that and there will be an icon of sheild with crossed swords….just make a shortcut of that on ur desktop….thne use that to auto.
2. try finding one called .file_store_32 thats what mine is called…but anyway go to ur hard disk drive and open the folder called WINDOWS and the .file_store_32 should be the first file….but also delte the UID in the file next to it called jagex_cache_32 i jsut found that folder so i think they might be putting uid in both folders now cause the found out about us deletein them and hoped we wouldn't notice second one….just a guess…
anyway hopes that helps :D ;)
legendaryhero90
2007-01-31 20:25:35
From: c0de
Yes but they can't tell from what computer they're coming from ;-)
That way you can claim it was someone else in internet caffe or your brother on a shared internet connection … :)
*mouth opened wide*
OMG i wished i knew that earlier!!! :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh:
i lied to JAGEX about my sis using my account but they knew…. then i thought HOW!?!??!
well this answers my question….:D
Hobbit
2007-01-31 21:18:58
update: they arent putting uids into my file_store_32 file…its now being place into jagex_cache_32 so you guys might wanna see if u got a file called that also
jultimate
2007-02-04 19:56:24
many people did with ayran
dontpanic
2007-02-04 21:30:30
Two answers:
1. They seem to alternate putting the uid in jagex cache and file store so check both…
2. If you simply drop trade or maybe even die trade on one ip they can ban your main, its happened to two of my accounts (my old main and a 10 hp mage pure)
The devil
2007-05-26 01:00:10
Omg i got banned for transferring.
The devil
2007-05-26 01:01:39
From: legendaryhero90
*mouth opened wide*
i lied to JAGEX about my sis using my account but they knew…. then i thought HOW!?!??!
Lol!
Hobbit
2007-05-26 01:07:10
From: The devil
Omg i got banned for transferring.
Yah…it is in the rules.
So they will ban you for it if they catch you, so dont get caught next time. :p
kautkto
2007-05-26 06:02:48
From: Hobbit
yes but if you use unsigned client…the scss client with scar automatically uses that….but anyway if you use unsigned then they can only see network ip and they cant tell where on the network ur comin from
so liek as c0de said…just say its internet caffĂ© or a shared connection
With my isp it says the same thing no matter where you are or what client I use, unless I use unsigned. Always .jetstart.xtra.nz or something on the back of my ip.
kautkto
2007-05-26 06:06:27
From: dontpanic
Two answers:
1. They seem to alternate putting the uid in jagex cache and file store so check both…
2. If you simply drop trade or maybe even die trade on one ip they can ban your main, its happened to two of my accounts (my old main and a 10 hp mage pure)
They alternate between that, and I have noticed uid.dat files popping up in a folder called jagex_cache_34 now as well as jagex_cache_32
grindisbest
2007-05-26 06:33:57
SCSS Doesn't work for me. Anyone else have this problem. Maybe it's windows vista.
Markus
2007-05-26 06:47:45
Are you using the newest SCSS 5.10?
evilwalrus
2007-05-27 17:04:49
jagex doesnt ban scar only on rare occasions and two if jagex has the nerve too they can ban your main…ip banning
Kayze
2007-05-28 04:33:18
Of course it is possible. Jagex logs your ip and activities.
If you delete your uid.dat inside the windows folder regularly, it will decrease the chance of getting banned.
shaunthasheep
2007-05-28 13:40:36
If u get banned. log on to a diffrent computer(not in a the same network), maybe ur friends house, or someone with a diffrent ISP (best choice), and appeal saying that u got hacked, or somin and make u sound innocent like "why wouldn't he just steal my items, even if they r junk". unless u have alot of money don't say its junk
lol
tim46
2007-05-29 07:03:29
I doubt that it would be a problem unless they catch you transfering items to the main acount. Those mass bannings were when Aryan still existed, never heard of SCAR acounts being mass banned.
n3ss3s
2007-05-29 10:10:19
i have never heard of a SCAR account being banned
Back then when I was a total noob leecher sythe thingy lucky knew how to fill const :D I didnt know anything about scripting (Except Sendkeys and sendarrowsilent,clickmouse,movemouse) and all the things about detectability of scripts, I overnighted with *Cough*Grindisbest's*Cough*"Overnight tokkul hunt" which ofcourse used clickmouse and all detectable things, then I got banned but never after that.
btw, isnt tracking what comp something comes from hacking?
mamoth95
2007-06-25 01:31:23
I To Heard Of Them Banneing Ips But Ive Never Heard Of A Case Of Them Doing It I Know They Thretend It But What Dont They Threten To Do And Never Go Through With Pretty Soon They Wil Thretten To Take Rs Off Line But They Wont Lol
uber0ne
2007-08-05 05:15:39
Makes me wonder…
Negaal
2007-08-08 15:29:39
From: Hobbit
yah like if u sign in with signed app…look up where it tell u the last ip u logged on as…with signed it says like : 123.45.67.334 (and here the specific comp on network) etc etc…..with unsigned it would only say 123.45.567.334….so they dont know where in the network ur comin from:D
eh, it's called subnet mask ban… only was to get rid of it, is change your isp
bet mtv
2007-08-14 10:32:31
just stand on one foot,hop up and down, rub ur belly, pat ur head and say,
im a pretty girl im a pretty girl.
that will assure the antibanning.
Yeah, If I were you I would use a proxy.
hiro_monkey
2007-08-14 16:08:19
RS caught me using it and all my bots and my main id was baned forever i tried saying it was my brother but they didnt unban mine main or any of the bots so yeah
TheGuyWhoGotOn
2007-08-17 10:09:39
Wow this is weird I used to always use clck mouse, I autoed for hours on my scripts and I've never been banned once :).
The Element
2007-08-18 08:36:55
You can get banned on any account. But the question is whether or not jajex has the time or want to ban you.
TheGuyWhoGotOn
2007-08-18 17:55:08
From: The Element
You can get banned on any account. But the question is whether or not jajex has the time or want to ban you.
Maybe they think I'm special XD.
Nereverine
2007-10-29 02:02:15
Yeah same here… i have traded items using the signed/unsigned applet and no ban yet people are rampaging on about being banned. How is this possible?
apolloiiix
2007-10-29 13:35:37
I think the reason they will always avoid IP banning is a lot of libraries and cafes across the world have hundreds of players who use the same network.
n3ss3s
2007-10-29 13:42:05
This thread is starting to go way of offtopic, the question has been answered, and I can see some spam coming there :rolleyes:
Meh, pseudoclosed.
Btw, JaGeX has the time/manpower to ban anyone, and its not about their will, their banning system reminds trying to shoot a mouse from hundred meters away of it with an M249, though xD
rubenhunter1
2007-10-29 14:54:04
i dont think jagex will bann your main iff you dont use your main to do macroing :) so im nerly 100% sure that you can continune playing and dont think more abote this;)
gamer716
2007-10-29 15:20:16
they only ban mains when u trade marcored goods from the autoer to the main account. i know because it happened to me twice.
boommaster
2007-10-29 16:05:19
im realy sure abote that the answer is no;)
n3ss3s
2007-10-29 16:17:08
IT IS possible, I tell ya, there is maany ways they can make a connection between your main and a throw-away account, and btw, you're not supposed to "cheat on a noob account", you macro with your army - you should propably read about the rules in SRL autoing…
i dont think jagex will bann your main iff you dont use your main to do macroing so im nerly 100% sure that you can continune playing and dont think more abote this
Ehhehehhe, its not like JaGeX thinks "Hey thats the guy who macroed on that noob - hey yeah, lets not ban him, he is a good guy, we'll just ban his army k?"
geforce
2007-10-29 16:28:11
question::When i use proxy and im ip changes every time i connect…if i have logged in with that ip with both accs main and new p can do they ban both because i logged in with both accs
n3ss3s
2007-10-29 16:34:46
Just delete the Random.dat, use unsigned and if you even use proxy, if you get banned no-one can complain that you should've blabla, plus the cases that when Random.dat is deleted etc, and someone gets banned are very rare.
Also that helps that you dont macro insanely much to decrease the chance of getting flagged..
rsdude20
2007-10-29 17:30:06
Okay so i guess its safe thne to trade it to other accounts then give them stuffin return then trade to main and give that banker lilttle stuff(feathers and little amounts of logs, etc…
yes it's possible, jagex can ban any and all accounts that are associated with one IP
cretila
2007-11-04 11:39:28
From: chaosoffear
as topic title says, is it possible?
if i auto on a noob account, then go on to my main.. if the noob account is banned will my other accounts be also?
because during the mass banning, i remember them saying that if a player creates a throw away account just for cheating.. then the main would be banned also, how is this possible? do they detect through IP?
and is there any sure fire way around this?
interested to know, thanks.
they could IP ban u
mark9510
2007-11-10 23:13:59
it is possible to be ip-banned