SRL Archive - Senior News and General

Thought we should have a SSRL thread on him.

(4:00:01 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: I want to show off, eh?
(4:00:22 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: Which is why Wizzup? is being a narcissistic hypocrite by saying I rage too much, right after he raged at me.
(4:00:25 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: Right?
(4:00:35 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Seriously, you are a good kid, but seriously IRC isn't supposed to have rules
(4:00:46 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: IRC is just supposed to be a fun little hang out
(4:00:54 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: Then why do people get banned for nothing?
(4:01:09 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Banned for nothing huh?
(4:01:13 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Name a ban for nothing
(4:01:15 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Right now
(4:01:21 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Name one ban for nothing
(4:01:23 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: I was banned by yakman for saying that cmd.exe = command.com
(4:01:42 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: You pissed them off then
(4:01:50 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: Which isn't an excuse for a ban
(4:01:56 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: If you wish to be successful in life, you must learn to not piss people off
(4:01:57 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Yes it is
(4:02:04 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: It is a great excuse to ban you
(4:02:11 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: This isn't the US
(4:02:15 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: IRC doesn't have rules
(4:02:20 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: Show me the rule which says, "If you piss yakman off by saying cmd.exe = command.com then you get banned for a week"
(4:02:21 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: IRC doesn't have a government system
(4:02:47 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: IRC ops have more privlages because they earned them and therefore they are more powerful
(4:03:02 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: They earned them by being in the IRC more, then abusing it.
(4:03:04 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: Nice.
(4:03:06 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: Love that, eh?
(4:03:07 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: So
(4:03:12 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: No, not so.
(4:03:17 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: They do that then don't get banned.
(4:03:20 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: IT"S FUCKING IRC GET OVER IT
(4:03:26 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: No.
(4:03:29 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: If you want rules go to the forums
(4:03:34 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: If you don't want rules go to IRC
(4:03:47 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: Makes sense, considering the rules apply there.
(4:03:57 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: IRC was never meant as a place for rules
(4:04:07 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: then what's the need for ops.
(4:04:07 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: It was just a place to mess around at
(4:04:11 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: ^
(4:04:18 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: To follow freenode's rules
(4:04:23 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Stop spam and such
(4:04:27 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: then why did we not abide to them
(4:04:37 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Because people didn't know of them then
(4:04:45 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: so there are rules?
(4:04:58 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Freenodes
(4:04:59 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Yes
(4:05:01 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: but you just said there are no rules.
(4:05:04 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: and whatever the ops say goes
(4:05:05 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: hmmm.
(4:05:15 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: You are pointing out useless generalizations
(4:05:26 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Ops have the power because they are trusted
(4:05:29 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: you are pointing out narcissistic ways of thinking
(4:05:36 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Who says narcissism is wrong?
(4:05:38 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: ops have the power because they are suck-ups
(4:05:46 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: you really just asked that?
(4:05:49 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: yep
(4:06:00 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: the ops call themself God, and you have no problem.
(4:06:01 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: You seem to be one of the few people that have a problem with it.
(4:06:07 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: If you don't like it leave
(4:06:10 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: It's easier that way
(4:06:18 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: "IRC is fun"
(4:06:22 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: Then make it fun for all.
(4:06:56 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: It's basically just like the US's freedom system. You have a set freedom limit, but they cannot infringe on others freedoms
(4:07:05 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: But 
(4:07:11 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: The high ups have more privilages
(4:07:17 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Just like the US government
(4:07:25 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: They can get away with murder all they want
(4:07:33 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: but if the higher ups do something wrong, then they get in trouble
(4:07:35 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: as per the community
(4:07:38 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: aka united states
(4:07:41 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Not really actuall
(4:07:48 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: yeah really actually
(4:07:51 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: That hardly ever happens
(4:07:52 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: called impeachment, look it up
(4:07:59 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Right
(4:08:02 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: I know what impeachment is
(4:08:09 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: But do you really know what happens in the governemtn
(4:08:13 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: yes
(4:08:17 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: The government kills people all the time
(4:08:23 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Saying that they had a reason to do it
(4:08:36 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: But really they are just murdering people and if we did the same thing we would be jailed/killed
(4:08:53 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: The governement and the higher ups and people with enough money get away with anything
(4:08:57 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: so, you're saying that Wizzup is doing things we don't know about
(4:09:06 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: you're admitting that the ops are wrong
(4:09:07 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: nice
(4:09:11 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: screenshots are nice
(4:09:23 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: I never said that though
(4:09:31 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: I implied it
(4:09:32 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: yeah, you implied it
(4:09:37 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: As an example
(4:09:38 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: ...
(4:09:49 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: You used it as an example too though
(4:09:58 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: You said that the ops get away with anything they want.
(4:09:58 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: yes, because they are wrong
(4:09:59 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: duhh
(4:10:03 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: yes. they do
(4:10:03 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: And I just said the reaosn for it 
(4:10:06 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: and they shouldnt
(4:10:09 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: And I gave examples on how it happens all the time
(4:10:14 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: which it shouldnt
(4:10:16 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: so change it
(4:10:19 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Lol
(4:10:24 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: You might as well go march washington first
(4:10:28 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: You might be more successful
(4:10:29 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: which worked
(4:10:35 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Then do it
(4:10:38 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: i am
(4:10:41 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: You won't change people on IRC
(4:10:46 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: already have
(4:10:52 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Not really
(4:10:57 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: You don't know half the story 
(4:11:02 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: i know the story
(4:11:06 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: equal consequences
(4:11:06 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Not really
(4:11:18 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Just drop it dude, all I am going to say.
(4:11:20 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: wizzup and yakman should be the only ops
(4:11:23 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: The ops are going to get there way
(4:11:23 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: end of story
(4:11:31 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Then what happens when they aren't around
(4:11:35 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: And spammers come it
(4:11:36 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: in*
(4:11:42 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Then everyone's fun is infringed on
(4:11:51 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: aka half op
(4:11:54 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: The reason we have so many ops is the fact that we have them on all the time
(4:12:06 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: all the time + unnecessary kicks/bans
(4:12:08 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Almost all of them don't have full op
(4:12:11 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: which ruins the fun
(4:13:11 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: no comment?
(4:13:17 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Listen to what you are complaining over though. You couldn't get onto an online chat for a week, so you have to ruin other peoples fun in trying to argue your point on how your right. Ops are going to get there way as I have said over and over again. You aren't going to get your way unless you have massive amounts of people
(4:13:24 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Woo typing takes a bit sorry 
(4:13:34 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: i could care less that i was banned
(4:13:43 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: people are getting banned for pitiful reasons, yet the ops do it too
(4:13:53 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Then why is your main arguing point that you were banned by yakman for cmd.exe vs command.com
(4:13:55 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: freddy1990 was banned because "wizzup doesn't like him"
(4:14:01 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: that's an example
(4:14:03 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: They are just having fun
(4:14:10 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: It's not like they are meaning it
(4:14:15 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: They aren't getting perma banned
(4:14:17 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: having fun? which is why wizzup said he doesn't like him?
(4:14:21 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: It's the internet, its uncontrollable.
(4:14:27 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: wizzup said he's a bitch to work with?
(4:14:30 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: i have logs
(4:14:34 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: So do I
(4:14:41 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: show me where he says he's joking
(4:14:42 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: But he has ownership in the channel
(4:14:51 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: This isn't a free market place
(4:14:52 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: even though yakman created it
(4:14:57 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: This is an owned community
(4:15:03 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: And wizzup has power in SRL
(4:15:05 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: by wt-fakawi
(4:15:07 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: not wizzup
(4:15:22 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: wt-fakawi = srl leader
(4:15:24 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Wizzup is fakawi's son, and major contribnutor in SRL. 
(4:15:31 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: he is going to have power
(4:15:32 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: and wt-fakawi is the leader
(4:15:34 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: aka leader
(4:15:38 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: SP?
(4:15:40 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: So>?
(4:15:43 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: has power != leader
(4:15:48 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: i have power as srl member
(4:15:49 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Where does this arguement bring in
(4:16:01 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: I see not where any of this relates
(4:16:11 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Wizzup has power in SRL
(4:16:13 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: just because he's the "so called leader", doesn't mean he shouldn't have the same consequences
(4:16:18 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: i have power in srl as well
(4:16:23 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Not as much
(4:16:27 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: No where near as much
(4:16:29 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: but i do, nonetheless
(4:16:31 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Yeah
(4:16:38 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: nonetheless you don't have as much
(4:16:45 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: so, you're saying this is a 15 man dictatorship.
(4:16:50 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: You don't have enough for people to be afraid of
(4:16:52 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Yep
(4:16:54 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Exactly
(4:16:55 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: nice.
(4:16:59 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: tell people that
(4:17:05 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: This isn't the US, 
(4:17:12 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: go into the irc and say that srl is a 15 man dictatorship
(4:17:13 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Dicatatorships are fine here
(4:17:37 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: then ban every us member, apparently they don't have power
(4:17:46 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: Seriously, you aren't going to win. If anything you are just going to get banned again. So enjoy, I am sick of arguing about it.
(4:18:11 PM) ALEX *red+u*naf*unicef*help*komen: not only are you narcissistic as well, you are ignorant, and nationalistic.
(4:18:26 PM) Nate / Mr.klean: I actually don't care what you think of me

Lol, can we just ban him so he shuts up?

Also this is for reference incase he tries pinning anything on me.

He was probably frustrated by something that happened to him, he seemed to hate just about everything and everyone. We've been patient with him, but he just kept flaming, so it did not make much sense to keep him in the channel for now.
I unbanned him.

He seems to have changed rather suddenly..

I agree with his main point: that the ops should abide by the same rules the regular users. Mr.Klean, you are saying that because they have the power means that they can rightfully abuse it.
I'm not saying that they are abusing their power though, as I don't really have any idea what's going on outside of that convo.

..But what was the point in posting this?

TViYH has SUDDENLY changed.. anyone else notice that?

From: Nava2
TViYH has SUDDENLY changed.. anyone else notice that?

He's always had very strong opinions and, for the most part, has been pretty vocal about them. I think this is just another case of him trying to get those opinions out to everyone.

When I was in the channel the other day it seems like you guys need to let the OP's argue for themselves. Wizzup was doing a good job of showing his side of the argument, but people kept making him look stupid.

The kid has an opinion just like everyone else. What he should be doing is messaging an OP instead of spamming the channel with those views. You shouldn't disrespect staff in public, take it somewhere else.



Also, I got banned for a week from the forums I hang out at nowadays. I'll probably be here for a little bit now catching up, so hello everyone.

He reminds of Dan's The Man/IP-Drowner now =/
Oh well, i think you explained it pretty well Nate
Bullzeye: I'll talk to you tonight if you're on :)

He has opinion and forces it into peoples face, which is the problem. There's a difference between saying "I think IRC should be more equal and rules enforced" rather than "THE OPS ARE ABOOSERS", which is said 20 times. Just because he uses some what decent English, it doesn't make it any less annoying reading the same message or being told that I'm wrong and he's right a lot.