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Which one is better? I use Scar and my friend uses RSBot.

People here will choose Scar, go RSBot Forum and they will choose RSbot.

No, close this…
There are more of these then Logical Proof of god threads.

RsBot=Better
Scar=Safer

Which do you choose?

RSBot

+ Many more functional scripts (esp. now since the staff there has decided to crack and release all former pay scripts….)
+ The scripts made by the better programmers are better than the scripts made here by the better programmers == higher quality scripts (mainly because it's easier to script basic stuff there thus they can focus on the details more)
+ Easier to make your own scripts after some learning (AFAIK anyway. I haven't actually attempted to make an RSBot script, but I believe that I could cook something up if I tried)

- Absolutely horrendous community (Note the above above cracked scripts…): This means that their best programmers (the ones that made pay scripts) will probably quit and there won't be any amazing scripts anymore
- Rumored to be detectable now/in the near future because of their BCEL techniques


SRL

Basically just reverse everything up in RSBot and…

+ Color along with Reflection adds extra functionality


Personally, I auto with RSBot when there isn't a SCAR/SRL script available (or I can't make it myself without considerable effort, or I know of an RSBot script that works better than a similar SCAR/SRL script), which honestly is nearly all the time :\

rsbot goes down way too much :p

and I've been using scar since 2.03 so.. scar all the way ^^

From: 99_
rsbot goes down way too much :p

I've been using it for like 3 months and the longest it was down was for like 5 days when Qauters' hard drive fried and he lost the auto updater :confused:

That's way too much for me =X

Even though I don't auto or play RuneScape.

But a lot of my friends are like "OH EM GEE! RSBOT IS DOWN! HELP PL0X!!!11!1!11one!1eleven!!@111!2" and it's really annoying :/

From: 99_
That's way too much for me =X

Even though I don't auto or play RuneScape.

But a lot of my friends are like "OH EM GEE! RSBOT IS DOWN! HELP PL0X!!!11!1!11one!1eleven!!@111!2" and it's really annoying :/

That was the longest it's been down in 3 months :p Other than that it only needs an update every week which means it's down for ~6 hours/week.

Or do you mean the forums?

They used to be down a lot (like 2 months ago), but they switched their server and now it's never been down yet. Though their community sucks, so I wouldn't want to hang out there much anyway :p

RSbot is instant ban for me 100% of the time with 4 member accounts so far.

All permabanned instantly.

From: snare
RSbot is instant ban for me 100% of the time with 4 member accounts so far.

All permabanned instantly.

I've had 3 (temp) bans (on P2P) from RSBot, about 4 (perm) bans (on F2P/P2P) from SCAR. Only character I value is my old main (P2P, got banned from SCAR), but I got a last chance because of the account review thread on it. IMO neither is more detectable at the moment, but there are rumors that Jagex is attempting/going to attempt to stop BCEL botting.

From: Runescapian
IMO neither is more detectable at the moment, but there are rumors that Jagex is attempting/going to attempt to stop BCEL botting.

How are they going to stop BCEL Botting?

From: noidea
How are they going to stop BCEL Botting?

One would think Jagex would go after RSBot first, seeing as the majority of botters use it. Exactly how they'll do it, who knows? I came across a post on Scionbot - http://scionbot.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=825

Quote:

RSBot will soon become detectable. BCEL client hacking is already in progress of being stopped, just look at its new updates changing RSString to String and the new randoms. With the laziness of their developers the bot will soon result in perm bans. Its already starting over the new randoms, just look at all the reports of the randoms now. They are preventing botters from botting the scripts that return good rewards by flopping and updating new randoms.

New randoms are not readable by Rsbot last I checked and wont ever be able to be read by RSBot, by the time RSBot figures out the bank/random hooks, it will be to late, jagex will have stopped BCEL Hacking and .net/color/reflection/text bots will be the rebound to those addicted botters.

ScionBot be prepared, once botters start getting banned they will need to look for alternatives and ScionBot will be their answer (or scar, but scar isnt really user/noob friendly).

From: noidea
How are they going to stop BCEL Botting?

http://jakarta.apache.org/bcel/

I think it isn't that hard for rs…

So what Runescapian is saying is that it's more possible to get banned with rsbot soon?

Also, what other botting is there besides rsbot and scar?

From: davidwang
So what Runescapian is saying is that it's more possible to get banned with rsbot soon?

Also, what other botting is there besides rsbot and scar?

It MIGHT become detectable in the future. Whether that's true or not nobody knows.

Nexus & iBot @ rscheata.net were popular for a while. They've been dieing down though because you need to pay for the minimizable version of their bot. Other than that, nothing really I guess.

So is scar like C++ or something like that?

Are you surfing srl forums 24-7? You posted only 12 mins after me. lol

From: davidwang
Are you surfing srl forums 24-7? You posted only 12 mins after me. lol

:) I have my ways.

RSbot has always banned me so therefore Scar is better.

From: davidwang
So is scar like C++ or something like that?

Scar is made with Delphi (Or am i making myself stupid :) )

~Home


P.S Scar Rules RsBot

Scar definitely. RSBot is like a perm ban for sure. ( depends on the script must most likely)

Scar owns RSBot, end of.

It'd be nice if people would explain their opinion, instead of just saying '——- is the best.' >_<

I would definitely side with scar. Its much friendlier.

Well I dont know RsBot much , but based on Runescapian´s arguments , if we talk about community , Srl owns RsBot , this community is very cool , people are awsome , funny and most of them interested on programing,

Rsbot may be just a leechers tool of cheating, while Scar and Srl arent just that. Here you have to make at least some little effort to use and learn how to use scripts , fix and maybe tweak them a bit :D

scar, RSbot gets you banned to quick

From: cycrosism
scar, RSbot gets you banned to quick

As long as you don't abuse it (as most RSBot users do, seeing as most of the scripts are flawless if made decently well), it's fine. I've been autoing ~5 hours a day on my main for about 3 weeks and I haven't been banned yet (might have gotten a bit carried away last weekend :\ – 12-15 hrs in a day).

Only bans I've gotten from RSBot are when I made a P2P army (when P2P got 10 day bans) to suicide bot (24/7) pure ess. Every week I'd have like a 50% chance of coming up with a ban. With Scar, very similar results.

Oh dear another one of these…

Seriously, what do you expect people to reply if you're on the SRL forums?

But I side with SCAR because I can script it, never tried RSBot scripting, and probably never will, I love SCAR, I use it because I enjoy scripting it, I never actually use it for my own RS gains…

:D

I feel kinda proud..

I emailed their new CEO when that email thing was up and I told them that I'm glad they got a new CEO and a bunch of stuff and can't wait to see changes..

then I told them how they could stop botting >.>

:/

They seem to be taking my advice =X

>:/ sorry to all you botters :p

(don't worry though.. SCAR shall never fail!)

From: 99_
:D

I feel kinda proud..

I emailed their new CEO when that email thing was up and I told them that I'm glad they got a new CEO and a bunch of stuff and can't wait to see changes..

then I told them how they could stop botting >.>

:/

They seem to be taking my advice =X

>:/ sorry to all you botters :p

(don't worry though.. SCAR shall never fail!)

What did you tell them?!

to change the hooks and use a different way to run RS =X

That's actually not bad for everyone who uses colour, like me, reflection is cheating :p

It'll slow down other bots, but not SCAR :)

exactly :D

I said some other stuff..

they never replied to me by the way :p not even to say like.. Thanks for your email or something automated :p

and I said some stuff to kill color..

I told them to use random colors and change how items look :p

too bad for them they have noobs there that would get confused and quit if they did this :)

Im tired of these threads so im just writing, scar is typically better than rsbot.
Though rsbot is java, probably sleeker and faster, SCAR in the end is much better for it's initial capabilities. Plus Rsbot is only for rs Scar for anythign!

I think the only good thing with RSbot is that you can hide it, so you can auto while doing your essays.

You can do that with SCAR…

I agree with Scar having more potential because of the combination of color + reflection, but proportionally, to make a Scar script equal to or better than an average RSBot script, the amount of effort would be much greater. Though, SRL makes up for it with it's great community of users and scripters alike :) IMO - Use Scar/SRL if you want a couple quality scripts (good for if you like to stick with one thing), use RSBot if you want a wide variety of working but not all that efficient scripts (good if you like to switch from one thing to another).

EDIT: Oh I forgot to mention RSBot's client is t3h s3x :p

Hehe, im fairly new to this, but i prefer scar and its community ;P

Scar OFC, Color based ftw

From: Zlakata
Scar OFC, Color based ftw

Even though i prefer Scar, RsBot has improved extremely, it can, sorry to say this but (:smallwriting:) Solve more randoms than scar :(
and can go on for longer. BUT I will never leave here, but may leave there, because the community here is probably THE best around, thanks to all mods, Admins Devs :D <3<3

T~M

From: The Man
Even though i prefer Scar, RsBot has improved extremely, it can, sorry to say this but (:smallwriting:) Solve more randoms than scar :(
and can go on for longer. BUT I will never leave here, but may leave there, because the community here is probably THE best around, thanks to all mods, Admins Devs :D <3<3

T~M

Even if everybody says it isnt true, RSBot is way detectable. It may have better scripts but in the long term Scar prevails as cloaking.

From: Zlakata
Even if everybody says it isnt true, RSBot is way detectable. It may have better scripts but in the long term Scar prevails as cloaking.

I agree that Scar is a lot better on the antiban side, but to be truthful, i have been using RsBot for 2 months now, and no accounts have been banned :touchWood:

T~M

From: The Man
I agree that Scar is a lot better on the antiban side, but to be truthful, i have been using RsBot for 2 months now, and no accounts have been banned :touchWood:

T~M

well you know your immunity can end at any moment :D
^^

Community RsBot: What Community?

Community Scar: Very nice Community.


Script RSBot: Very l33t (In the future it will go down hard)

Scar: Very Good but not as RSBot


Rs Detectability: RsBot is very detected:


Scar: Near undetected.


9/10 to Scar


6/10 to RsBot.

From: Zlakata
Scar OFC, Color based ftw

05-03-2009, 02:15 PM

dude this thread is very old, and you've just made a gravedig, please watch at the last post next time :)!

From: Tickyy
05-03-2009, 02:15 PM

dude this thread is very old, and you've just made a gravedig, please watch at the last post next time :)!

actually it is an ongoing poll so technically the discussion can go on till requested to be closed :)

T~M

From: The Man
actually it is an ongoing poll so technically the discussion can go on till requested to be closed :)

T~M

I request this thread be NOT closed :)

I just tried RSbot, I don't really like it and they have bad community.

I hate the forum lol. It's to dark and you can't see anything :p

Quite honestly, if SRL had a client like RSBot's, it would absolutely p0wn it. Until then, IMO it's about even overall.

Yeh i agree, it would absolutely own
T~M

I have made a shitton of money(RS and Realworld) from scar… gold trading from spinning bowstrings.
I have never been banned using Scar, but I hear reports of people getting banned using RSBot all the time.

Ok… So
RSBot-
Pros:
+Has userfriendly GUI
+Scripts are userfriendly, doesn't make noobs stare at a bunch of characters on screen for hours
+Is definately more fast than Scar
+A LOT more scripts

Cons:
-Have to manually download anti-randoms and anti-bans
-Retarded RandomBreak antiban that you have to have enabled to have a chance of not getting banned. Will Break you for 3 hours after botting for 8
-Overall takes a person with the brain of an insect to work

SCAR-
Pros:
+Has a good programming environment
+SRL is a very good bundle that is downloaded in a pack from SVN, easy and fast
+More programmer resources
+SMART almost makes it the same as RSBot
+IMO less chance to be banned, but biased since I've used and gained a lot from SCAR
+Runs more efficient(from my observations)
Cons:
-SMART is still very buggy
-Requires HIGHLY advanced knowledge of computers… CTRL+F and replacing lines with Copy and paste is extremely complicated for 99% of botters
-Many scripts do not support SMART, hijacks mouse

So yeah.

I like scar more becouse like 5 of my accounts have been banned for using rsbot and 0 with scar. I agree that rsbot is better for botting same time with 10 lvl 3 noobs, but scar is better if you want to be safe ;)

From: rpg711
I have made a shitton of money(RS and Realworld) from scar… gold trading from spinning bowstrings.
I have never been banned using Scar, but I hear reports of people getting banned using RSBot all the time.

Ok… So
RSBot-
Pros:
+Has userfriendly GUI
+Scripts are userfriendly, doesn't make noobs stare at a bunch of characters on screen for hours
+Is definately more fast than Scar
+A LOT more scripts

Cons:
-Have to manually download anti-randoms and anti-bans
-Retarded RandomBreak antiban that you have to have enabled to have a chance of not getting banned. Will Break you for 3 hours after botting for 8
-Overall takes a person with the brain of an insect to work

SCAR-
Pros:
+Has a good programming environment
+SRL is a very good bundle that is downloaded in a pack from SVN, easy and fast
+More programmer resources
+SMART almost makes it the same as RSBot
+IMO less chance to be banned, but biased since I've used and gained a lot from SCAR
+Runs more efficient(from my observations)
Cons:
-SMART is still very buggy
-Requires HIGHLY advanced knowledge of computers… CTRL+F and replacing lines with Copy and paste is extremely complicated for 99% of botters
-Many scripts do not support SMART, hijacks mouse

So yeah.

Smart… buggy…?
Mind pointing me at some bugs you have found?

From: Wizzup?
Smart… buggy…?
Mind pointing me at some bugs you have found?

Personally the only thing I see wrong with it is that when you minimize/maximize it the connection with RS cuts out for a couple seconds, causing scripts (the ones I use anyway) to stop/fail 50% of the time. Might be just me though, as I haven't heard anyone have any problems like this. I circumvent it by pulling SMART off screen without minimizing :)

EDIT: Though yeah, I wouldn't classify it as very buggy.

EDIT: Just remembered one more thing: Typing is buggy. I heard that you should be able to type while SMART is enabled, though that has never been possible for me. If I want to type I have to enable/disable SMART multiple times and hope it works.

SMART isn't very buggy, but it looks like clicking on smart gives strange signals to the scar client(I once accidentally clicked smart, and in the debug screen there was written 'Welcome to Runescape'–>while i was already logged in)

Smart isn't buggy any more.

From: Hermen
Smart isn't buggy any more.

It works fine now, but there are still some inconvenient bugs -

When you minimize/maximize it the connection with RS cuts out for a couple seconds, causing scripts (the ones I use anyway) to stop/fail 50% of the time. Might be just me though, as I haven't heard anyone have any problems like this. I circumvent it by pulling SMART off screen without minimizing.

Typing is buggy. I heard that you should be able to type while SMART is enabled, though that has never been possible for me. If I want to type I have to enable/disable SMART multiple times and hope it works.

From: rpg711
-Many scripts do not support SMART, hijacks mouse

You're a bit off there. Every script can work with SMART, although not all SMART scripts can work without (reflection).

SCAR is alot better than RSbot cause of the fact its on your system. you dont have to rely on the updates, cause it is mainly local. :) whereas with rsbot, to use any of it you have to update, with SCAR once you have the script, youre good :D

From: [Ethan]
SCAR is alot better than RSbot cause of the fact its on your system. you dont have to rely on the updates, cause it is mainly local. :) whereas with rsbot, to use any of it you have to update, with SCAR once you have the script, youre good :D

Mmm the only updating you have to do with RSBot is once a week after an RS update when you have to Go To Desktop -> Right click RSBot folder -> Click Update SvN -> Wait 20 sec -> Done.

Though, I have moved away from RSBot, only because SRL's reflection is now good and stable :) I make my own scripts for what I want to get done because SRL's combination of color + reflection gets the job done better than BCEL.

From: Runescapian
Quite honestly, if SRL had a client like RSBot's, it would absolutely p0wn it.

What? Just a client, a debug box and a few buttons and stats of the account with no area to write scripts?

[QUOTE=Dan's The Man;574070]What? Just a client, a debug box and a few buttons and stats of the account with no area to write scripts?[/QUOTE]

RSBot client

- Can type while script is running, and if needed you can enable User Input and mouseclick something
- 2 Clicks and you can get the IDs of whatever you want
- Uses A LOT less resources (I can run about 7 RSBots using the 'Less CPU' option vs. 2 SMARTs with the FPS bar at nearly lowest)
- Convenient Account and Script organizer (Though you could argue Scar's is just as good)
- And, I don't know about you guys but my SMART is buggy (for instance, every time I minimize/maximize it it cuts off RS for a couple seconds, which sometimes causes a script to fail, or the fact that you have to click enable/disable like 5 times before it unlocks your ability to type)
EDIT: - The 'script writing area' is just as good with Eclipse

So yes, RSBot's client is much better :p

I'm going to go with Rsbot because I've been using it for awhile on my main without any ban :D Also, the client is very easy to use, update and it has A LOT of good scripts :)

SCAR because I use it to auto on other MMORPG's.

RSbot is good because it can solve all the randoms, while at scar it took about a month or so for rev32 to come out. RSbot is quicker and more efficient.

From: cycrosism
SCAR because I use it to auto on other MMORPG's.

RSbot is good because it can solve all the randoms, while at scar it took about a month or so for rev32 to come out. RSbot is quicker and more efficient.

RSBOT can't solve all randoms.


~Home

From: Home
RSBOT can't solve all randoms.


~Home

Yeah, and same with SRL (though it can't be long now :)).

i LOVE the rsbot client, it is the best thing ever and scar messes up on 3/4 of my computers. but i still like this community and all of the scriptwriters/mods/scripts so It depends… i like both

^^ Yeah what he said. Scripters on both are about the same(although RSBot has a bigger selection), but the community there sucks REAL bad. I was selling a guide, and I went first. Not only did this one guy CANCEL his payment, but he also LEAKED my guide!

RSBOT is what i use though i think Scar is safer. The community over at rsbot likes me where here everyone hates me basically lol.

Your mothers.

Also, you need to pay for like every good RSBot script.

I find rsbot better since its more reliable and has better scripts/anti randoms, also its much easier to create scripts for it. only con is that it needs to be updated everytime when jagex updates rs client

From: R0b0t1
Your mothers.

Also, you need to pay for like every good RSBot script.

Incorrect, Deviants Woodcutter. Best woodcutting script ever ;)

T~M

From: R0b0t1
Your mothers.

Also, you need to pay for like every good RSBot script.

Yeah, The Man's right. Pay scripts are only the half of it, there's such a variety and large number of free scripts that some are at least as effective as the majority of Scar scripts, while still maintaining a larger amount of working scripts.

I stated a few posts ago that smart isn't buggy, but it is for me, it looses focus/connection to much, and since I loop dtm's it breaks my script a lot even with the thousand fail safes in it.

Scar is the only one I've used but from what I heard of RSBot it sounds like crap.

From: final_result
Scar is the only one I've used but from what I heard of RSBot it sounds like crap.

The only this bad about RSBot is that it is more detectable than Scar and they have a bad community.

From: Dark Arcana
The only this bad about RSBot is that it is more detectable than Scar and they have a bad community.

Those are some pretty bad flaws; I especially hate the RSBot community, where everyone is either a leecher or an idiot.

Isnt this thread pointless really, as if you thought rsbot is better you would be posting on their forums.

id side with scar too, only because of what i hear on the grapevine.
i use it and im a noob.
even my fag brother uses it lol
so scar ftw in my opinion.

RSBot has much more available scripts with larger functions (That I've seen so far)
I've never used RSBot in my life. So i can't give a good comparison.

I've been banned with Scar. (My own fault for over autoing :) )
Scar is reliable, and is much safer from what i have heard.
There are less people using scar making it less noticable to Jagex.
If their is good and unique scripts like Aviansies like i have seen with the RSBot community they are kept well hidden to the maker or private sections like SRL Members.
The scripting in SCAR seems fairly simple.
You can run multiple accounts with ease, and minimal lag, if none at all.

I'm planning to start browsing the tut's in SCAR scripting so i can join the Members section and contribute myself.

SCAR wins by a mile. The community is much better, the bots are safer, and it's funner to code in.

And that was speaking from a before-RSBot mass bans mindset. Counting present statistics, I believe my choice is crystal clear, as if it wasn't before. :P

SCAR all the way. ;)
~Macro_FTW

RSBOT runs smoother but never can do allnighters or at least 8 hours of straight botting..

unlike Scar there are alot of allnight lasting scripts like narcle's and forefeathers all that good stuff plus its safer so ya!

From: poopy2177
RSBOT runs smoother but never can do allnighters or at least 8 hours of straight botting..

unlike Scar there are alot of allnight lasting scripts like narcle's and forefeathers all that good stuff plus its safer so ya!

= banhammer..

From: djcheater
= banhammer..

he isn't grave digging, you are.

From: Smarter Child
he isn't grave digging, you are.

He means that running overnight = banhamm0r. ;)