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I'm just going to say some things evolutionists say. Also, I've seen alot of "NO GOD" threads so I figured I would make an evolution thread. Most of the things in here either make sense to YOU or they don't make sense to YOU but for some reason they will make logical sense to someone else…

Once I argued with a guy about evidence and asked him where all the missing links were in the fossil record? He argued that there lack was evidence that evolution had occurred. No evidence is evidence.

1. Some evolutionary psychologists suggest that stamp collecting and the line are a result of our past evolutionary link to the squirrel. As they hoard nuts for their winter hibernation, so we have inherited this desire to hoard things as a result of our past evolutionary link. As usual, no actual scientific evidence was given to prove this nonsense, except the belief in evolution itself. Evolution once again proving evolution.

2. Hiccups, we all get them and hate them, you know what they are? Your body is reverting back to its frog stage of life!

3. Big Bang, before everything there was nothing that came together and blew up to create everything, forming over billions of years to create universes and eventually life(which came from nothing blowing up).

4. The T-Rex was a vegetarian, and the chicken evolved from it even though it has feathers and the T-Rex is expected to have scales. The roots of a T-Rex's teeth are only about 2 inches deep, if he bit into another dinosaur he would have lost his teeth.
>You don't need to eat meat to get huge, look at elephants, horses, cows, and many other animals…

COMMENCE DEBATING
I'm going to add things to this list as I find new things, and please don't use the bible unless its for historical records :) .

What does the big bang have to do with evolution?:confused:

From: Brain
What does the big bang have to do with evolution?:confused:

Most evolutionists believe in the big bang theory, so why not add it?

Because you made a thread about evolution…
Lets talk about breathing while we are at it, since most evolutionists believe in that too.

From: Brain
Because you made a thread about evolution…
Lets talk about breathing while we are at it, since most evolutionists believe in that too.

This thread is about debating evolution, not who believes in breathing…
Now shoo unless you have something useful to debate about.

You're telling me that it is about debating evolution when you are the one that brought up the big bang?

From: Brain
You're telling me that it is about debating evolution when you are the one that brought up the big bang?

Do you want me to take it out of the main post or are you going to say something to support it? I don't see what your trying to get at…

From: josh81193

I'm going to add things to this list as I find new things, and please don't use the bible unless its for historical records :) .

Using the bible for historical records would be like using a marvel comic (or a tabloid newspaper) as a historical reference.

Ugh, not another one of these "logical proof" threads.

1. Some evolutionary psychologists suggest that stamp collecting and the line are a result of our past evolutionary link to the squirrel. As they hoard nuts for their winter hibernation, so we have inherited this desire to hoard things as a result of our past evolutionary link. As usual, no actual scientific evidence was given to prove this nonsense, except the belief in evolution itself. Evolution once again proving evolution.

You know, I've never heard of any reputable scientist claim this. In fact, I've never heard of any reputable scientist that believed we evolved from squirrels.

2. Hiccups, we all get them and hate them, you know what they are? Your body is reverting back to its frog stage of life!

Again, never heard of this claim before. Also, evolution doesn't go backwards.

4. The T-Rex was a vegetarian, and the chicken evolved from it even though it has feathers and the T-Rex is expected to have scales. The roots of a T-Rex's teeth are only about 2 inches deep, if he bit into another dinosaur he would have lost his teeth.
>You don't need to eat meat to get huge, look at elephants, horses, cows, and many other animals…

You're making assumptions. First, the T-Rex most likely wasn't a vegetarian, if only because his teeth would suck for eating plants. Also, how can you know if it would lose its teeth? We don't know exactly how thick most dinosaur's skin was. We also don't know how strongly T-Rex teeth were held in place.

And now I shall quote what you said in another thread:

From: josh81193
you can't explain things with logic, logic is an opinionated belief.

From: josh81193
1. Some evolutionary psychologists suggest that stamp collecting and the line are a result of our past evolutionary link to the squirrel. As they hoard nuts for their winter hibernation, so we have inherited this desire to hoard things as a result of our past evolutionary link. As usual, no actual scientific evidence was given to prove this nonsense, except the belief in evolution itself. Evolution once again proving evolution.

2. Hiccups, we all get them and hate them, you know what they are? Your body is reverting back to its frog stage of life!

Whoever told you that was either messing with you, or actually thinks that we evolved from both frogs and squirrels =\

From: josh81193
3. Big Bang, before everything there was nothing that came together and blew up to create everything, forming over billions of years to create universes and eventually life(which came from nothing blowing up).

As Brain said, this has nothing to do with evolution. You obviously don't understand the theory. It says that mass came from energy. It is proven that this can happen, and has been recorded happening in particle colliders AFAIK.

From: josh81193
4. The T-Rex was a vegetarian, and the chicken evolved from it even though it has feathers and the T-Rex is expected to have scales. The roots of a T-Rex's teeth are only about 2 inches deep, if he bit into another dinosaur he would have lost his teeth.
>You don't need to eat meat to get huge, look at elephants, horses, cows, and many other animals…

I'm not really seeing where this has anything to do with anything.. Pretty sure I'm missing something.

Isn't this useful, we're debating about debating. I'm still not sure about this, what's your evidence again?

Guess what! YOU ARE HERE!

Who cares how?

EDIT: I just read your first post… and I prey to all things holy and unholy that you are trollin', or you are THE dumbest dude I have met in a long time.

From: Ruroken
Guess what! YOU ARE HERE!

Who cares how?

EDIT: I just read your first post… and I prey to all things holy and unholy that you are trollin', or you are THE dumbest dude I have met in a long time.

lol'd a bit, i figured i would make a thread against evolution since everyone here is against god, figured someone would take it seriously.

Originally Posted by josh81193
you can't explain things with logic, logic is an opinionated belief.

We'd take it seriously if you made real arguments against it :p

From: Widget
We'd take it seriously if you made real arguments against it :p

Word.

From: Ruroken
Word.

I copy that.
And who the (xxx) said we evolved from squirrels? Of everything I've heard from evolution, that has never been said.

From: Floor66
I copy that.
And who the (xxx) said we evolved from squirrels? Of everything I've heard from evolution, that has never been said.

We didn't.

'nuff said

I just learned about this in school. There is irrefutable evidence that natural selection occurs at least on a small scale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppered_moth_evolution) but the question is whether or not evolution can account for the creation of whole different species or EXTREMELY intricate things like flagellum on a bacteria (a quick google search revealed that "100,000 million million would fill the volume of a pinhead." I think this points to some sort of intellectual design, but that's just my opinion.

Evolution was a series of coincidences that happened to occur and create life.

Honestly, why would completely stable in-organic compounds like those on the earth at the time of creation form biological compounds. There wasn't intelligent design but there was a lot of luck involved ;)

Btw, natural selection was proven.. I just forget where..

Why didn't you post any 'logical proof' that evolution doesn't exist? You just posted some random junk that I have reason to believe you just made up…?


Is it just coincidence that a species of primate dies out at just as another is emerging?

If lack of evidence is evidence (risking turning this into another damn religious debate), then there is evidence that God does not exist.

From: Nava2
Evolution was a series of coincidences that happened to occur and create life.

Evolution is what happened after those series of coincidences that created life.

if you do DNA analysis on all living things and connect them together, it forms an elegant tree of life. It is powerful evidence that all life is decended from one.

In a very real sense, we are all distant cousins, not only of every other human, but of every other living creature.

if all life was made in 6 days, there would be no DNA link between them, they would be completely unrelated.

It may be interesting to know, but here a two anti-evolutionist things.

1-Humans have the closest chemical composition to dirt.
2-It takes over a million "coincidences," to make your eyes work.

Also, it has been proven that there are over a few hundred million "coincidences," that happened on Earth and to it for life to form.

Of course, it IS all luck.

From: llamaman aka Stevee
It may be interesting to know, but here a two anti-evolutionist things.

1-Humans have the closest chemical composition to dirt.
2-It takes over a million "coincidences," to make your eyes work.

Also, it has been proven that there are over a few hundred million "coincidences," that happened on Earth and to it for life to form.

Of course, it IS all luck.

The universe is a pretty big place dude, and has been going on a long time. Lot's of chances for these "coincedences" to occur. And of course, given enough time, the probability of something having occured approaches 100%, for everything.

Dating back to the beginning, do you believe in the big bang theory? If so, then there's something that you can't argue against.

The belief in the BBT is that there, at one time, was a single point of infinite mass. But we all know space and time have a special correlation. If there was an infinite mass, that means that there would be an infinity time. Lol, infinite time.

Anyways, I agree. Eventually everything WILL happen. However, if my math was to be put together, (EG 1x10-900_
There might not even be enough time for that to happen.

[banana]Stars need:
To be stable.
To not be too hot/cold
To not be massive(shorter life span=not enough time for evolution :rolleyes:)

Planets need:
To be terrestrial.
To be within the "safe zone," of a star; receiving just enough sunlight, but not tew much.
To have a stable atmosphere.
To have plate tectonics.
To rotate.[/banana]

AFAIK, we haven't found any planets like that other than Earth. I also didn't mention our moon, which keeps away asteroids; as does the giant gas giants. (NO WAY!)

unforunately, u can never test that hypothesis Claw, because u will never have enough time in your life to even scratch the surface of ur claim.

i personally believe in micro evolution (duh, everyone should). rabcarl touched on this concept. micro evolution is when evolution occurs in small forms. like creating a new breed of dogs or birds. there has been proof (like rabcarl said) for this. but, there hasn't been any solid evidence for macro evolution. this type of evolution is a species-to-species transformation. so, i am left to believe the evidence, i believe only in micro evolution.

From: x[Warrior]x3500
i personally believe in micro evolution (duh, everyone should). rabcarl touched on this concept. micro evolution is when evolution occurs in small forms. like creating a new breed of dogs or birds. there has been proof (like rabcarl said) for this. but, there hasn't been any solid evidence for macro evolution. this type of evolution is a species-to-species transformation. so, i am left to believe the evidence, i believe only in micro evolution.

Evidences for Macroevolution

From: Nava2
Evolution was a series of coincidences that happened to occur and create life.

Honestly, why would completely stable in-organic compounds like those on the earth at the time of creation form biological compounds. There wasn't intelligent design but there was a lot of luck involved ;)

Btw, natural selection was proven.. I just forget where..

Charles Darwin, traveled to the Galapagos Islands and studied finches, some islands had fruit, others had seeds/nuts, and EVERY bird was adapted to eating those things by the shape of their beak.

well i guess none of you heard out the main big bang theory guy, around last year stopped supporting that theory he said it wasnt as clausable as he thought

thanks yakman for the link. i will read into it

well somewhere there is a higher power. i mean our bodys all have the same design right? our minds are what seperates each person. so what if the higher power was a compuiter?? it distrubites the minds of each person. and all the minds are stored on a master server. our body layout is alredy saved as a .bmp but our mind script is what tells that .png what to do. like the script is programed in our brain. and our bran controlls our body. and our body would be like a picture and thus creating a movie, the story of our lives.[pardon my spelling im in a rush lol]