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The current item is- Black platelegs (g)
Price- Max!


It is getting harder and harder to trade your autoed wealth from your army to your main.
Party rooms have been fixed and bounty hunter is gone for right now.
Having an army is seeming less like a good idea until I started doing this idea.
This doesn't transfer wealth to your main, but in a way it kind of does.
This is more of a way of getting around some of the rules that the GE has for merchants using your army.

You need:
An army of probably at least 4 autoers
Auto them until they all have a decent amount of money on them
A good amount of cash on your main

What you do:
You use your army to help your main merchant an item. I have successfully done this by myself using 6 accounts and no merchant clan.
If you have a merchant clan then that is just even better.

The item to merchant-
I used black full helm (g)
You're looking for an item that has to be bought when a player wants it. You don't just go out and start trying to get clue scrolls when you want full black (g). You can't make this item either.
This kind of item is usually never merchanted because of the rules set on it, you can only buy 2 of them every 4 hours, but you will read later that that is what your army is for.
You also want a relatively steady item. Items like barrows armour have graphs that look like waves, so I would stay away from that. You also want your item to be at it's minimum price and where you think it is about to be able to be raised.
If it is already raising then it is fine, as long as it hasn't gone up too high.
If the item is at a price that is high for what it usually is at then stay away from it.

On your main-
I used 20m for the main.
When you start this you need to cut your money in half (10m).
Spend half of it on your item at the lowest price you can get it for without going under market.
Now I have 10m left, and the price of the item should have stayed about the same.
This is where you start using your army to make the price of your item soar.
The rule for how many of an item you can buy per hour is for each one of your accounts. Meaning with 5 autoers and a main you can buy 6 helms an hour.
All of the item you buy from this point on will be at max price, even though you can get it lower.
There probably aren't many more than 6 black (g) helms sold on runescape per hour.
And if someone else wants one, all they can do is match you at max price and hope they get it.
Either way, every time a black (g) helm is sold the price of it is going up.
And almost every one of them that gets sold goes to you.
Now just wait until your army has ran out of money to buy the item with and sell it all.
Your main will get a lot of profit, and your army might even make some profit too.

If you don't have an army you can still contribute and earn some money.
Just buy the item then start selling when I start selling.


Script instructions-
Grapher-
All you do is fill out the item ID number.
This can be found by looking on the grand exchange.
Bring up the item you want and the ID number will be in the url.
Example- http://itemdb-rs.runescape.com/viewitem.ws?obj=1042
The ID is 1042
You can also use the merchanter script to find item's ID numbers.

Merchanter-
The first time you run this it will take a LONG time.
It has to go through every item in the game.
The 2nd time it will run off a list it generates from the first time of all the items it needs to look at.
The only thing you have to set up is the minimum price for items.
It comes at 50k default.
The script will only find items that cost the minimum price or higher so that your list of items doesn't get too big.
There will be 3 different html files saved into your SCAR folder.
Items.html is the list of all the items in order of how much they went up that day.
Items2.html is in order of how much the items went up this week.
Items3.html is in order of how much the items went up this month.

Well I was first to post in the other thread, so I'll be the first to post in this one also lol. Once again it's a great idea! Not sure why I haven't thought of it before. Don't see how they could "patch" something like this as you said though.

Also, just delete your other thread all together please.

Yes, thanks for moving it. With the info in the other thread, the method would go faster.

Wait wait wait.

So on your main with 10 you buy at max price and on your autoers you buy at lowest price?

From: Hugolord
Wait wait wait.

So on your main with 10 you buy at max price and on your autoers you buy at lowest price?

no no, what you do is you buy for min on your main, then use your army to pretty much hold the market at max, since if they are buying at max, noone will get the item for lower thus raising it, all the while you got your items cheap on your main… great idea i love it

Wow this is a great idea, I will definitely try this!

Okay, I'm gonna try this..

Any items you guys suggest?

I'm guessing if we do the same item it will be beneficial for everyone?

Or you could just hog all the resources and piss everyone off. I think it would be more rewarding to see everyone mad, personally…

I think flour pots were down, (saw in some thread). If we all raised the price at the same time, I know it would benefit some people.

EDIT: I love how stuff in the members section gets a ton of attention for a few hours then nobody ever comes back lol! (At least I'm in that group. ;) )

On your main you are supposed to spend half of your money on the item at mid, once that is done spend the other half at max along with your army.
You could of course just spend all the money on your main at max or even all at mid.

I'm guessing if we do the same item it will be beneficial for everyone?

That would be great.
I might use this thread to post the current item I'm doing and having others doing the same item will boost the profit.
I just finished making a script that writes out an HTML document with all items in runescape in order of how much gp they went up that day.
I might use this to figure out what the next item should be.
In case you were wondering, Red phats are number one (almost went up a mil today =0) and dragon plates are at the very bottom of the list, followed by bandos.
I could probably make a version to release here if anyone is interested.
It also sorts the items by increase this week and month.

Wow, brilliant idea mate. :)

I'll try this for sure.

Looks like this is just turning into a merchanting clan sorta lol. But yeah just post your item and it'll help everyone. Just make sure you don't buy the item for any less than minimum ever!

Deleted other one.

From: Mjordan
Looks like this is just turning into a merchanting clan sorta lol. But yeah just post your item and it'll help everyone. Just make sure you don't buy the item for any less than minimum ever!

It's never possible to buy for less than the minimum price.

The guide looks good, though. I may have to try this out if I get back to autoing.

Now you have to ask yourself, at what point in time, does Jagex realize they can't stop us?

I think we're both enjoying this just as much as the other, Jagex and us are playing a huge game right now and to be honest… it's fun as hell :sasmokin:

It is pretty fun.
No matter what Jagex changes, we can get around it.
The consequence of that is no matter what we change, Jagex can get around it.
It comes down to who does the most "getting around".
Which would be us.

It's like if you are at war with another country.
No matter what type of weapon they could create, there is some way to stop it from working.
No matter what way of stopping it from working, there is a way to stop you from stopping it from working.
Idk if that made sense to anyone but me :)

I get it almost… (haha, get it?! Almost) Anywayz… I like the idea, but how many people wanna buy full black (g) helms? lol… (when you're ready to sell back after price went up)

So.. basically you're running your own merchanting clan out of your bots? I was thinking kind of similar (key word = similar) to this a while ago, but never had the cash to put my idea into action.

Let's all watch this rise now?

Lucky for us, they most likely won't ruin this.

People are dieing to buy them after I start buying them.
They can't get their hands on them, and by the time I was done buying I sold probably the first 50 at max price pretty fast.
Once the prices start to dump though I had to go a little lower.

Well i got 10 m+ on my mail and some other mills on my bots.
Just tell me the item and I'll buy it xD

From: Iron man
So.. basically you're running your own merchanting clan out of your bots? I was thinking kind of similar (key word = similar) to this a while ago, but never had the cash to put my idea into action.

Let's all watch this rise now?

Lucky for us, they most likely won't ruin this.

Price is down atm, why not start buyin em ;) ( Full Black Helms (g) )

I guess the item will be black (g) helms again then.
I've already bought about 30 of them at just barely over market.
So let's all start buying them and see how this goes on a larger scale.
We could start the first merchant clan that does treasure trail items and items that have limited numbers you can buy.

Dude I'm not sure about black(g) helms again. Not a back to back merchant, those usually never work. And the graphs don't look the best.

I went back and looked at the past graphs for the helms and the last time I merchanted them was over 44 days ago (That's how far back I can look)
Could have been over 2 months ago.
And the graph has everything I'm looking for.
It's a flat line at about as low as it is going to go.

From: almost
I went back and looked at the past graphs for the helms and the last time I merchanted them was over 44 days ago (That's how far back I can look)
Could have been over 2 months ago.
And the graph has everything I'm looking for.
It's a flat line at about as low as it is going to go.

Oh alright lol I though you had just came off a merchant from them. Well then I guess by all means buy them for MAXIMUM price and nothing less!!!

Also, how do you view the graphs that far back?

I'll be releasing my script that graphs it here pretty soon.
It's basically done already.

And the helms went up 704 gp today?
That's good because I haven't started buying them above market yet.

If anyone is wondering I have spent 7m out of 10m on them so far.
So I'm about to start buying them for max.
So hurry up and get some at market if you are wanting to get in on this.

just tried to buy 50 on ge, so how long till u think u will sell?

this is a pretty good idea…. im also interested on the script u sreated that saves the graphs

I might be able to start buying for max by tomorrow.
But if no one is ready though I'll give it some more time.
As for when I'll sell them all, that could be in a pretty long time.
More than a week from now.

The cool thing about this script is it doesn't have to save graphs.
So as soon as you get it you can start looking at items from 44 days ago.
It also has some other cool stuff.
I might have it released today.

nice… but if you start buying for max tomorrow will that affect the 50 im currently trying to buy?

how much do u expect it to rise?

nice how did u manage to find that? did u look through the html or something to find where jagex store the data? what other stuff is in your script?

this def sounds like an interesting tool and i would really like to see it and hope you do release it…. i never really looked into trying to create a script like that, but its def useful and just wonder what other idea that people have that are 'new' in a sense

Ok, just requested to buy 13 full on my main at low price and ill go on bots in a sec and buy for high in a bit..

From: Hugolord
Ok, just requested to buy 13 full on my main at low price and ill go on bots in a sec and buy for high in a bit..

Please don't tell me you're buying them for minimum? You can't be that dumb I don't think can you lol?

I've gotten around 30 something so far. The way merchenting clans do it is to just start buying at max amount right away. I say everyone start buying them at max because if you don't they won't rise. And to prove my statement, just look at the graphs for today, they rose 0 gp. Start buying at max!

If you have a pretty good amount of cash you should buy them at market first and then go for max.
This is because you can only pull the prices up so much.
If you have 20m you probably won't be able to spend all 20m on max.
But if you don't have a lot of cash you should just wait until I'm buying them for max and spend all your money on max.
And it looks like we're probably ready for that?
So I guess everyone start buying for max now.

The big merch clans don't manipulate the prices by buying the item for max like I do.
They basically buy the item out.
The demand gets so high that people playing runescape are trying to buy them for max, and then the prices raise.
But that just takes too long and won't always work.

The script works by changing some of the variables on the end of the location of the graph image of an item.
There is a variable for the item number, the graph size, and the date.

Yeah I meant low as in market price, sorry was kind of tired yesterday.
And I'm now buying for high on all my accounts, lets hope this helps.

hmm…. i have like 70 accounts… maybe next item i could pitch in lol!

From: mormonman
hmm…. i have like 70 accounts… maybe next item i could pitch in lol!

No we're just now starting this one, you could buy them now. If you buy for max now then it'd be just like you joined in when we first started.

I just came up with an idea, and if it works…
This would be amazing.

You can put up an offer for a helm at max price and then sell one to yourself at max.
You can also do it between your accounts over and over.
There is no limit on how many you can buy if you are buying then selling on the same account.
So you can buy and sell 100 at a time.
If this effects the GE the way regular trades do, you could make the price of an item skyrocket without losing any money at all.

If it doesn't work trading it back and forth with yourself, I'm pretty positive it would have to work trading it between your accounts.
Then there would be the 2 per 4 hour rule but it would make the price go up without spending any money.

So everyone interested should start doing this, and if the price goes way up tomorrow we will know it worked.

Mormonman you aren't too late.
Perfect time to start buying actually, they just started raising today for the first time.

From: almost
I just came up with an idea, and if it works…
This would be amazing.

You can put up an offer for a helm at max price and then sell one to yourself at max.
You can also do it between your accounts over and over.
There is no limit on how many you can buy if you are buying then selling on the same account.
So you can buy and sell 100 at a time.
If this effects the GE the way regular trades do, you could make the price of an item skyrocket without losing any money at all.

If it doesn't work trading it back and forth with yourself, I'm pretty positive it would have to work trading it between your accounts.
Then there would be the 2 per 4 hour rule but it would make the price go up without spending any money.

So everyone interested should start doing this, and if the price goes way up tomorrow we will know it worked.

Mormonman you aren't too late.
Perfect time to start buying actually, they just started raising today for the first time.

I'm so confused…

But good news, it rose 1,926 geepee today! Keep buying and don't sell until almost gives the word!

So did you guys just make a mini merchanting clan here?

From: Bobarkinator
So did you guys just make a mini merchanting clan here?

Yup basically lol.

So did you guys just make a mini merchanting clan here?

I suppose so.
This could be like a merchant clan for autoers with armys.
But if the idea I just posted works, I want to take this in a different direction.

Here's my newest idea.
Everyone in the clan will spend what money they have on the item at market price.
Once everyone is stocked up on it, we all just start trading them between each other at max.
There will be almost no one in runescape besides the clan members buying the item at max.

So I will put up a helm for sale at max.
Someone in the clan will have an offer up for buying one at max.
It goes to them, then with the cash I got from them I put up an offer for one at max.
They can sell the same helm back to me in 4 hours.
We can constantly be buying then selling the helms at max between each other which will raise the price and you won't lose a single gp the whole time.
Sometimes you will put up your helm on the ge and it might not go to a member of the clan, but it still raises the price just as much.
And at the same time, when you put up an offer for one, there is a chance you won't get it from someone in the clan.
Either way the prices go up and you don't lose money.

If I spend my 20m on them at max I can buy 140 helms.
Then start swapping between clan members on the ge.
The price went up 2k today, and that is just the very beginning.
2k * 140 helms = 280k on the first day of doing it.
Eventually the price will be 50k above what it was when I bought the 140 helms.
That's 7m more than I bought them for.
We could potentially get these going up 10k a day if this works right.
That would take 5 days for the price to go up 50k.
Meaning 7m in 5 days without hardly any work.

From: almost
I suppose so.
This could be like a merchant clan for autoers with armys.
But if the idea I just posted works, I want to take this in a different direction.

Here's my newest idea.
Everyone in the clan will spend what money they have on the item at market price.
Once everyone is stocked up on it, we all just start trading them between each other at max.
There will be almost no one in runescape besides the clan members buying the item at max.

So I will put up a helm for sale at max.
Someone in the clan will have an offer up for buying one at max.
It goes to them, then with the cash I got from them I put up an offer for one at max.
They can sell the same helm back to me in 4 hours.
We can constantly be buying then selling the helms at max between each other which will raise the price and you won't lose a single gp the whole time.
Sometimes you will put up your helm on the ge and it might not go to a member of the clan, but it still raises the price just as much.
And at the same time, when you put up an offer for one, there is a chance you won't get it from someone in the clan.
Either way the prices go up and you don't lose money.

If I spend my 20m on them at max I can buy 140 helms.
Then start swapping between clan members on the ge.
The price went up 2k today, and that is just the very beginning.
2k * 140 helms = 280k on the first day of doing it.
Eventually the price will be 50k above what it was when I bought the 140 helms.
That's 7m more than I bought them for.
We could potentially get these going up 10k a day if this works right.
That would take 5 days for the price to go up 50k.
Meaning 7m in 5 days without hardly any work.

Alright I get it now. Hmm well that might just work. So basically your just saying that when it's time to sell, we just sell them at max. Will this work anyone know?

There is more to it than that though.
For every one of them you sell you buy one back.
We keep doing this for a little while building the price up, and then we actually sell them all.
This could possibly be at max price too.
You probably won't be able to sell them all at max, but the first day after we dump the item it will probably sell at max.

From: almost
There is more to it than that though.
For every one of them you sell you buy one back.
We keep doing this for a little while building the price up, and then we actually sell them all.
This could possibly be at max price too.
You probably won't be able to sell them all at max, but the first day after we dump the item it will probably sell at max.

We would need to set a cap to how high we raise them though… and it will take a long time to sell them all.
Edit: I might decide to just buy addy bars… to jack the price up so that I can make more money on my p2p guys at aviansies :p

There is no limit to how many you can sell per hour.
So they should get sold in less time than it takes to buy them.

From: almost
There is no limit to how many you can sell per hour.
So they should get sold in less time than it takes to buy them.

But who besides us would buy them?

From: mormonman
But who besides us would buy them?

Thats the thing, we just buy them continuously ourselves until we achieve our set price, then we put them all in and actually sell them to other people and finish our dump, then move on to another item. Lets try it once we buy as many as we can. I've got about 48 so far, so everyone keep buying at max!!!

But who besides us would buy them?

People that play runescape?

From: almost
People that play runescape?

for that high price… o well i am buying some right now :p

Like I said you will probably only be able to sell high right when we start dumping.
Then the price will start going down and we will sell lower than max.

From: almost
People that play runescape?

Yes if we have the majority of them bought out, and someone wants it bad enough they will buy for max. But also what almost said in his last post.

Just posted my two grand exchange scripts.
Hopefully they work for everyone.

Well the helms flatlined again today. Keep buying for max guys!

I took off my offer for them on max yesterday to test out some things with trading between accounts.
But my offers are back up today.
Anyone checked out the grapher yet?

From: almost
I took off my offer for them on max yesterday to test out some things with trading between accounts.
But my offers are back up today.
Anyone checked out the grapher yet?

Um where are they? Put links in your sig, or in the first post here.

That's where they are.
In the first post.
Look at the bottom.

Hmm sorry didn't notice them. How about a quick rundown of them both? I'm sorta confused…

Raising prices is easy. Dumping is where most clans fail. Choose carefully.

Errr , sorry guys, merch failed :(

From: faster789
Errr , sorry guys, merch failed :(

And why do you say that? It hasn't dropped yet. It's just not rising because none of you shits are buying them for max, or even buying them at all actually.

How did it fail?
I posted that I stopped buying them that day.
Look again it went up 3.3k today alone.

Raising prices is easy. Dumping is where most clans fail. Choose carefully.

The wise words or boreas.

From: almost
How did it fail?
I posted that I stopped buying them that day.
Look again it went up 3.3k today alone.


The wise words or boreas.

W00t w00t I didn't notice how steep it rose today! This hasn't failed at all, not sure why you said it did faster789?

My thoughts. Boreas is exactly correct. I've been a part of quite a few merchanting clans, and the failure ALWAYS comes when it's time to dump. People will dump early, or sell for minimum price to get rid of the items fast.
So I think it's MUCH better that just a few of us get together and have enough money to effect the GE like this and specify an item to buy. Then on the sell date we don't sell for anything but max. You get my point…

On the other hand, almost have you been doing your idea of selling between accounts? Because I've been doing it. It's slow because of the buying limit, but maybe this sharp rise was an effect of us doing that?

lol price is going up

Erm.. the helms i was buying max have been bought.. should I sell them now or what?

How about a quick rundown of them both? I'm sorta confused…

There is a description of how to use them on the first post.
If you are still confused I can go in depth on it.

From: Hugolord
Erm.. the helms i was buying max have been bought.. should I sell them now or what?

Sell for max.

but maybe this sharp rise was an effect of us doing that?

I bet it was.
I did it a few times yesterday.
The price went up over 3k and I only know of 3-4 people that are buying these right now.
So something is working.
Also, I'm only using 2 accounts.
My other ones are banned.

Erm.. the helms i was buying max have been bought.. should I sell them now or what?

This happened on my 2nd account yesterday and here is what I did-
I sold all the helms on that account at max.
Then I used the money from that to buy them all back at max.
Do that for a while.
You can buy one every 2 hours and have it sold back every 4 hours.

Then hold on to your helms until we are ready to dump.
This will keep the price going up.

I've been a part of quite a few merchanting clans, and the failure ALWAYS comes when it's time to dump. People will dump early, or sell for minimum price to get rid of the items fast.

This is why I quit merchanting clans.
The leader of the clan and the higher up members like to sell their items at max and THEN tell everyone it's time to dump.
Then it's hard for everyone else to sell their items, and it's competition to see who sells theirs for the lowest to get rid of them before they bottom out.
I'm not going to try to do that, plus there aren't many people merching these, so I think this should work out.

From: Hugolord
Erm.. the helms i was buying max have been bought.. should I sell them now or what?

Yup do as almost said and sell those for MAX, then with that money buy more for max. And just keep doing that. Lets see how high we can get this price.

Okay, I'll keep doing this and gonna do it on some other accounts right now too ^^

Okay I'm using 3 accounts to buy and sell 40 of them

From: Hugolord
Okay, I'll keep doing this and gonna do it on some other accounts right now too ^^

Okay I'm using 3 accounts to buy and sell 40 of them

Very good, very good. We should be making the price rise quite nicely. If only we had three times more money so we could just buy them all out lol. But very good, just keep selling and buying for max and the price should rise!

My question is how exactly do we sell it at the end?
I doubt people would buy the helms 200k each :S

My question is how exactly do we sell it at the end?
I doubt people would buy the helms 200k each :S

They do if they have to :)
It works on me when people are merching something that I want.
Especially an item that only costs 150k.

And all we really do to sell them is pick a day and put them all up for max.
It will take a few days to sell them all, so I think we should lower the price some every day, just don't sell them really low.
The people out there that didn't spend 20m on them could have them all sold off at max on the first day though, because there is no limit on how many you can sell at a time or anything.
I'm expecting at least 3 days to sell all of mine though.

How many do you have? I currently have about 130 on my main just sitting, then just buying and selling on my autoers to hopefully raise the price.

I have just a little over 100 on my main.
But I have over 7m more to spend on them.
I would have more than 100 but I've been selling them to my other account back and fourth a little bit.

really like ur graphing script…. just not to sure what the merchanting one does?

also how long until u think we should sell??

Ive got around 40m on these buying @max :)
Keep buying them at max.

Ive got around 40m on these buying @max

Very nice that will help a lot.

not to sure what the merchanting one does?

It gets all the items and puts them in order of how much gp they went up that day.
Read the description of it on the first post at the bottom.

also how long until u think we should sell??

When mostly everyone has spend all the money they can on them.
Then I think we should do the trading them between clan members thing for maybe of couple days, then dump.
When the time comes to start trading the helms around I'll try to put up a guide on how to do it effectively.
I'd like to see the helms close to 200k, but that will be pretty hard to get.

Just bought 60 helms on max price.
Is it me or did the price not rise today?

From: Hugolord
Just bought 60 helms on max price.
Is it me or did the price not rise today?

It did rise, I put it going for max over night, and price had went up :)
Keep on buying boyos.

From: almost
Very nice that will help a lot.


It gets all the items and puts them in order of how much gp they went up that day.
Read the description of it on the first post at the bottom.


When mostly everyone has spend all the money they can on them.
Then I think we should do the trading them between clan members thing for maybe of couple days, then dump.
When the time comes to start trading the helms around I'll try to put up a guide on how to do it effectively.
I'd like to see the helms close to 200k, but that will be pretty hard to get.

Running out of money won't be problem, we can just bounce them back and between by selling for max if we run out money, that way we will still maintain the money and the price goes up.

Running out of money won't be problem, we can just bounce them back and between by selling for max if we run out money, that way we will still maintain the money and the price goes up.

Exactly
Buying/selling doesn't make you lose any money but will keep prices rising.

Well this is what I see and it's flat for today :S

http://itemdb-rs.runescape.com/2595_graphimg.gif?id=2595&scale=0

It has done that before so it's fine.
It will go up again.

Yeah not sure why it flatlined today, but don't worry there should be a sharp rise tomorrow. That 40m will help immensely, just remember to keep updating your offer in the G.E. everytime the price changes.

And keep buying/selling for max! I'd also like to see these get up around 200k. Pretty sure with this 40m extra we can do it.

Well, it went up again :) Keep buying.

Yup it went up again.
Max is at 162k right now, so I'm thinking once they hit 170-180k we start trading them around and get them to 200k then dump.
By then everyone should have their money spent too.
Unless it doesn't start going up as fast as I want it to.
Either way, I've already made a good profit off of what I have now.

From: almost
Yup it went up again.
Max is at 162k right now, so I'm thinking once they hit 170-180k we start trading them around and get them to 200k then dump.
By then everyone should have their money spent too.
Unless it doesn't start going up as fast as I want it to.
Either way, I've already made a good profit off of what I have now.

I agree. Or we could start trading them around right now to try and keep the price raising.

If you're out of money, definitely.
I'm just about out, so I'll spend the last bit of it and then start buying/selling.

This is just a merchanting clan guys… be careful when the dump comes. You have enough people involved that unless you all coordinate it some people could get screwed.

But the idea of using your army to manipulate price is pure genius.

But the idea of using your army to manipulate price is pure genius.

I figured that is what makes it not "just another merchanting clan"

Yeah I'm still trying to buy 7 mil worth of helms but I can't seem to buy many more..

From: Hugolord
Yeah I'm still trying to buy 7 mil worth of helms but I can't seem to buy many more..

I've noticed this also, I've got about 13m left trying to buy them. Thats a good sign though, maybe we've bought most of them out. Just keep going at it guys!

Hmm I still seem to be getting my regular 2 per 4 hours.
But yes, if it is slowing down that means the supply is running low on them.

I think we are doing pretty good though.
Here is the graph for black (g) platelegs, which were being merched by a whole clan.
We are moving at about the same rate, and only a few people are in on this.
Judging by this graph, if we wanted to hit 200k it would take maybe a few more weeks.
And it looks like dumping them took at least a week.
But my idea of trading them around the clan should speed that up.

Yep, we are doing great!
~Eerik~

From: almost
Hmm I still seem to be getting my regular 2 per 4 hours.
But yes, if it is slowing down that means the supply is running low on them.

I think we are doing pretty good though.
Here is the graph for black (g) platelegs, which were being merched by a whole clan.

We are moving at about the same rate, and only a few people are in on this.
Judging by this graph, if we wanted to hit 200k it would take maybe a few more weeks.
And it looks like dumping them took at least a week.
But my idea of trading them around the clan should speed that up.

Hmm very nice, very nice. I've started trading mine around already.

I ran out of money today, so now I'm just buying and selling between my accounts too.
I'll probably go rune mining and buy about another 5m worth soon though.

6 mil left here guys..

Wonder why it flatlined with us still buying them out at max?

I've been wondering why too.
It has done it 3 times.
The first time I wasn't buying them that day.
The past 2 times I had my accounts buying them at max, no different than the days it went up 4k+
Jagex might have some sort of thing that limits how fast you can raise prices on some items.
I've seen this happen with big merchant clans too.

I was reading jagex's grand exchange guide thing, and they said they wanted to make the ge where you could buy an item and have faith that in the next week it wouldn't be half of what you paid for it.
Or you sell an item and in the next week it doubles what it was worth.
So it sounds to me like the control how fast some things rise/ fall somewhat.

From: almost
I've been wondering why too.
It has done it 3 times.
The first time I wasn't buying them that day.
The past 2 times I had my accounts buying them at max, no different than the days it went up 4k+
Jagex might have some sort of thing that limits how fast you can raise prices on some items.
I've seen this happen with big merchant clans too.

I was reading jagex's grand exchange guide thing, and they said they wanted to make the ge where you could buy an item and have faith that in the next week it wouldn't be half of what you paid for it.
Or you sell an item and in the next week it doubles what it was worth.
So it sounds to me like the control how fast some things rise/ fall somewhat.

Hmm that could be true I've heard people say that they most likely do this.

As for you other guys buying, make sure you update your offer to max in the G.E. everytime the price rises.

They rose 3,172gp today! Keep trading between accounts and buying at max!

Rose a good bit the last two days!

Yup we got a good raise 3 days in a row now.
I think we should probably settle for less than 200k ea, but still close to that.
But keep it up guys we're doing good.

From: almost
Yup we got a good raise 3 days in a row now.
I think we should probably settle for less than 200k ea, but still close to that.
But keep it up guys we're doing good.

Na go for 200k each. As long as we hold them then why would there be a problem with them rising that much?

You can't raise an item forever.
And it's going to take a while to get it to 200k.

I guess it just depends on the next few days and what everyone else thinks about it.
I wouldn't like to consider myself the "leader" of this.
I want to see what everyone else wants to do.

If we start getting 3k+ a day, then it's fine.
If there are days with 0 raise, then we should consider maybe 180-190k.
Because if they stop raising, we could see a drop in them before we're even ready to dump.
That will only happen if people stop buying them though.

Yeah I for one think we should at least TRY to get it to as high as possible or 200k at least since we CAN wait for a while..

Then again if we get like 2 or 3 days in a row with an increase of 0 or close to it we should aim for lower..

Yup that sounds like a plan to me.
I think we can get 200k.
It didn't go up today, but I forgot to update any of my offers.
And if my theory of jagex controlling the increase is correct, we were due for a 0 increase by now.

Sounds good. I want to get them around 200k if not over. But if there's a string of say 3 days when it rises 0 then we'll sell.

Why wouldn't we be able to continue raising them? If we held them all… nobody else would have any choice but to buy from us, eh?

From: Smartzkid
Why wouldn't we be able to continue raising them? If we held them all… nobody else would have any choice but to buy from us, eh?

Same question here. I just didn't wanna argue before, but now that you said it then might as well. If we hold them, then people are forced to buy for that price.

The price dropped today, so it is possible.
There is a certain point people won't care to buy the item above a certain price.

Also it will take us as long as we have been buying this item all over again to get it to 200k.
We are at the half way point.

But I still think 200k will work.
It barely went down today, so this doesn't mean we've maxed them out.
But if tomorrow it went down even more, we might have to consider something else.

If we held them all… nobody else would have any choice but to buy from us, eh?

This is true, but not all of the helms being sold are by our clan.
When people do a clue scroll and get a helm, they usually won't bother to try to sell at max.
So at a certain point when we've raised the price too high, all the helms being sold will be by people selling them under market, because no one is willing to spend max on it.
The higher we raise the price, the higher difference there is between max and mid, meaning the harder an item is to sell at max.

Wow the price did drop today, strange. I say if it drops another day we sell for max then I guess.

Alright someone's sold a good amount of them for less than max. Thats why they dropped today. I updated my offers and they bought instantly for mid or less. If it's anyone from here, then go to hell.

Ya if you are from here and selling them, you're only killing off a lot of potential profit.
There is still a lot of price raising we can get out of these.
Actually anyone selling these for any less than max is dumb, because they sell easy at max.

Ok we have a problem.
It went down 3k today.
And that is not something that just happens naturally, especially with people buying them at max.
I bought and sold a bunch of them yesterday at max, so this is not just a normal thing.
Someone who has a lot of these has to be selling under market.
You're retarded, whoever you are.

From: almost
Ok we have a problem.
It went down 3k today.
And that is not something that just happens naturally, especially with people buying them at max.
I bought and sold a bunch of them yesterday at max, so this is not just a normal thing.
Someone who has a lot of these has to be selling under market.
You're retarded, whoever you are.

Told you so. Whatever you do don't sell what you have though. That'll just contribute to the decline. I have approx 140 on my main, and 50 on my mule. If we hold ours and keep trading between accounts for max then they'll start to rise again once whoever the fucktard(s) is that sold them sells all theirs.

Ya they will start to rise again once this person is done.
It's probably someone here who thought they were smart and tried to sell before everyone else.
But that's fine, we will make more profit than you.

wtf are we supposed to do until then?

From: Hugolord
wtf are we supposed to do until then?

Hold the ones you have on the account you want to make the most money. Then on all your other accounts keep buying and selling in the G.E. for max. Must be in the G.E. remember this, because trading through the trade screen doesn't contribute to raising the prices.

I've just been going on like nothing happened.
Buying 5, selling 5.
It looks like it's evening out now too.
I just made some extra cash on my pure in pvp worlds, I'll put it up today on some more helms at max.

@almost, ok I've got an idea. Should we go ingame and start spamming join "whatever" clan chat to make millions merchanting. And just spam around to buy black (g) helms. That'll surely make the price rise and we can just sell ours that we have and get rid of them lol.

Hah that could help us out.
All the srl members can dump our helms, THEN we tell the noobs to start selling theirs.

From: almost
Hah that could help us out.
All the srl members can dump our helms, THEN we tell the noobs to start selling theirs.

Well I wasn't even thinking about telling them lol. Say if we tell everyone ingame to buy for max and hold for a certain amount of time, we wait till the price rises for a little, then a few days before it's time for them to sell, we go ahead and sell ours to them lol.

Or we raise the prices ourself, then when we want to dump we just put them all in selling for max and start advertising for people to buy them and wala all of ours will sell almost instantly lol!

Good news too, the price flatlined today.

That just might be messed up enough to work :)

Ya it flatlined again, so we should be back to raising the price now.

From: almost
That just might be messed up enough to work :)

Ya it flatlined again, so we should be back to raising the price now.

Well it seems you and I are the heads of this operation lol, so lets wait a day or two and keep trading between accounts and see what the graphs do. Then we'll make a decision when to start advertising for people to buy them :D

Ok they dropped again today. Everyone start advertising in RS to buy black g helms at max price to make millions merchanting! A bunch of noobies should do it and the prices should rise and we sell all ours out for max to them in about 3 days.

Wow I just saw firsthand how merchanting clans ALWAYS end up the same.
Being at the "top" of the clan really does start to get to your head.
And those people take advantage of the people who aren't at the top.

That's what I said I wasn't going to do to the people here at the forums in one of my posts towards the start of this thread.

Sure advertise and have MORE idiots screw it up.. -,-

I have a new theory for what is happening to the prices.
Maybe some small merch clan out there saw that the helms were rising fast and started buying them.
Then when we saw the first drop I think is when they decided to dump.

I don't think one person here at the forums trying to sell their helms early could cause the price to suddenly drop for a few days straight.
I've also noticed the helms I'm buying lately have been giving me back 10k+ when I buy for max.
Pretty common for a clan dumping an item.
Not very common at all for a bunch of people who are just selling one of the item to do.
People actually trying to sell the item will go for mid - max.
Then if your item isn't selling you will consider under mid.
That isn't a problem for people right now though, because there are plenty of people buying them for max.

A clan selling hundreds of them will just stick them up min-mid most of the time.

So if this is right, wait a little bit and they will be done.
Then we can raise the price where we wanted it.

From: almost
I have a new theory for what is happening to the prices.
Maybe some small merch clan out there saw that the helms were rising fast and started buying them.
Then when we saw the first drop I think is when they decided to dump.

I don't think one person here at the forums trying to sell their helms early could cause the price to suddenly drop for a few days straight.
I've also noticed the helms I'm buying lately have been giving me back 10k+ when I buy for max.
Pretty common for a clan dumping an item.
Not very common at all for a bunch of people who are just selling one of the item to do.
People actually trying to sell the item will go for mid - max.
Then if your item isn't selling you will consider under mid.
That isn't a problem for people right now though, because there are plenty of people buying them for max.

A clan selling hundreds of them will just stick them up min-mid most of the time.

So if this is right, wait a little bit and they will be done.
Then we can raise the price where we wanted it.

Hmm I guess so. You're the boss so I'll wait it out.


@hugolord, no not necessarily. Actually not at all really. We get a bunch of people to buy them, then just sell all ours off for max to them. How would that not work?

Looks like we're probably good to go now.
The price didn't go down today.
I bought and sold lots of helms today, and never got any cash back when buying them.
So tomorrow should be a rise.
I put up an offer for selling 10 helms at max and they sold in an hour.

From: almost
Looks like we're probably good to go now.
The price didn't go down today.
I bought and sold lots of helms today, and never got any cash back when buying them.
So tomorrow should be a rise.
I put up an offer for selling 10 helms at max and they sold in an hour.

Yup we got a rise today! I still think we should go with my idea once we decide to sell them off for good.

Yeah it's rising now, keep selling all your helms I'm going to be buying and selling all of my 70 or so helms ^^

Mjordan and I have been talking about dumping soon, and we agree that it should be done.
Someone has fucked us over and we're really not getting much profit anymore.
And it looks like it's just me, Mjordan, and Hugolord being active with this now anyways.
The price went up today and yesterday, so it looks like an excellent time to start a dump.
What's everyone think?

From: almost
Mjordan and I have been talking about dumping soon, and we agree that it should be done.
Someone has fucked us over and we're really not getting much profit anymore.
And it looks like it's just me, Mjordan, and Hugolord being active with this now anyways.
The price went up today and yesterday, so it looks like an excellent time to start a dump.
What's everyone think?

if it keeps going up why dump now?

I say if it drops again we should dump no?

From: Hugolord
if it keeps going up why dump now?

I say if it drops again we should dump no?

I think we've about milked these helms for all they're worth already. We don't have enough money/people to get that much more of a rise out of them.

I say wait maybe one more day, then here's the plan: Put all of our helms in selling for max price, one of us make a clan chat claiming its for a merchanting clan, we go ingame and start advertising for people to join and tell them we are currently buying black full (g) helms.

So what happens is they all put in an offer and we sell all of ours quite swiftly for max, and they're left to do whatever with them. Mean but effective lol.

From: Mjordan
I think we've about milked these helms for all they're worth already. We don't have enough money/people to get that much more of a rise out of them.

I say wait maybe one more day, then here's the plan: Put all of our helms in selling for max price, one of us make a clan chat claiming its for a merchanting clan, we go ingame and start advertising for people to join and tell them we are currently buying black full (g) helms.

So what happens is they all put in an offer and we sell all of ours quite swiftly for max, and they're left to do whatever with them. Mean but effective lol.

okay sure, one more day and we do it ^^
We didn't really make much profit tbh but it was a good experience, I think for the future we should do it with only a selected few number of people we trust though.. that might work a bit better..

I made a lot of profit considering the price dropped off out of no where.
On my main I turned the 20m into 24m.
It would have been 25-26m if things went right though.

Well I didn't make that good profit for some reason either. I only made about 2m

When you look at the profit you have made, don't use that new thing built in that tells how much your items are worth.
That goes by market price.
And since I've been selling them all not a gp below max, it doesn't make sense to go by market.
It also depends a lot on how many you bought at market before you started buying them for max.
And also it depends a lot on how much money you spent.

I think we're gonna make even less profit as the price is going down fast..

From: Hugolord
I think we're gonna make even less profit as the price is going down fast..

Why the hell is it dropping?

Start advertising in game to buy them at max guys!

Who said the price is going down fast?
It isn't.
Look at the graph.

I'm interested in doing this later on, once you pick another item. I have 4 mill right now though. Not too much :(. I will keep upping it though. Hoping for 8 or so in a few weeks (smelting ups money exponentially)

I am interested in next big buy also… although I won't be using my main or tanker…(40mil combined) I got a large army, so I might make a script to buy the item at highest, and have it just run through like 20 guys( about 400k on each )

Ok let's start discussing the next item.
And this time, let's not try to drag it out for a month.
You really get more profit if you move on once you've gotten the price up a bit.

I think most of us will be at least partly buying on f2p accounts.
So that should be taken into consideration.
Another treasure trail item is most likely going to be good.

rune h3 helm? or shield?

From: almost
Ok let's start discussing the next item.
And this time, let's not try to drag it out for a month.
You really get more profit if you move on once you've gotten the price up a bit.

I think most of us will be at least partly buying on f2p accounts.
So that should be taken into consideration.
Another treasure trail item is most likely going to be good.

Yeah a members item is not feasible, I'll make a bold statement to say that none of our armys are members. So it'll have to be a f2p item most definitely.

It needs to be something that is quite popular in demand. And I agree that it would benefit us to only merch it for like about 2 weeks instead of over a month.

I don't have any ideas atm, but I'll check out the graphs tomorrow.

Er it went down 1 k two days ago, 0 yesterday and 3.5k today.. I think it's dropping pretty fast lol…

This is the first day over 1k I've seen period.

960 gp is quite close to 1k lol

Alright stop arguing noobs. Just post here when you've sold all your helms and we'll start looking for another item. If you have any suggestions feel free.

okay. I sold 10 out of my 70 helms so far. you guys?

From: Hugolord
okay. I sold 10 out of my 70 helms so far. you guys?

like 110 of my 153.

I've sold at least 30 of my 150.
I took a look at some treasure trail items, and black (g) kites are looking the best.

From: almost
I've sold at least 30 of my 150.
I took a look at some treasure trail items, and black (g) kites are looking the best.

I don't like them really. But maybe if we can't find anything else.

There are plenty of better items.
But they either cost too much, and we're not exactly billionaires, or are member items, or items people don't buy very often.
I consider that more than I consider what the item's graph looks like.

How is everyone doing on selling their helms?
I sold all of mine already.
I sold like 30 the first day, then the other 120 on the 2nd day somehow.

I've sold all of mine 2 days ago. I suggest buying pk'ing items right now! Like lobsters, prayer pots, swordies, sharks, etc. I've got word that bounty hunter is going to be back next week, so everything should skyrocket. I've currently got 20m+ invested in prayer pots. I hope I'm correct, if so I should make a killing profit.

I think our next item should have something to do with this then.
If it does come back we would make crazy profit.
Str pots, rune scims, rune 2hs, something like that.
I think str pots would be great, isn't there not a limit on how many you can buy?

From: almost
I think our next item should have something to do with this then.
If it does come back we would make crazy profit.
Str pots, rune scims, rune 2hs, something like that.
I think str pots would be great, isn't there not a limit on how many you can buy?

Thats correct, no limit on pots. So I say str pots or rune scimys.

I sold all of mine too..
If it's just us three I think we should discuss somewhere more private so people don't fuck up the item's price again lol xD

im pretty sure no one here dumped early cos there was way to many helms being sold, i sold the 55 i had a couple of days ago

i have about 10 mill to help with the next item

nah but while we were getting the price up we had a few drops because some people were selling it (if you read this whole thread)

yea i read the whole thread quickly my bad…. so who else brought the helms?

I think it's more about who SOLD their helms while we were buying them

any ideas on that?

No idea but I think it's just safer if, for the next item, we talk about it somewhere private with ONLY the people who will chip in.

thats fair… will i be included?

so have u done any other things like this hugo?

Nah, this is my fist time.. :P
and we should wait for other people's opinion on this..

good idea

jw how much money did u make, i think i made close to 30k on each helm

Made like 500k (had 70 helms)

maybe i didnt make 30k ea helm….. il look at how much i brought/sold for

I remember when this one clan merched on rune scimmys and it worked out nice for them.
I was pvping at the time and I was having to buy rune scims at max.
When you're ready to fight people you don't really care about the price.
Everywhere I went people were saying "buying rune scim max".

There is no way to know that someone here was selling them early.
And there is no way to know it's not one of us 3 that did it.
It could have been me.

Edit:
I really think str pots should be the item.
You can buy them as (1), (2), (3), and (4)s
So even if there is a limit per hour, all 4 of those are considered different items.
I could probably blow all of my 20m on str pots in just a couple days easily.
Then use the (3)s with the (1)s to make (4)s and use all the (2)s on themselves and you've got a bunch of (4)s which are worth the most per does.

good idea almost, so should we start buying

If everyone is ready and agrees on str pots I suppose we should.

I agree with STR pots but shouldn't we just put (3) or (4) to focus on raising the price of just one of them?

From: Hugolord
I agree with STR pots but shouldn't we just put (3) or (4) to focus on raising the price of just one of them?

All the prices raise the same. So if dose (4) rises 100gp, then dose (1) will rise 100gp also. And there is no way were gonna buy out str pots, so this isn't so much a dump, but just as a very wise investment. I say everyone buy as many strength pots and rune scimmys as you can cause they will shoot up when BH comes back out. Then after BH comes out and well sell everything, we'll decide on a solid item to dump.

It doesn't look like the prices depend on each other.
The price of a (1) times 4 doesn't equal the price of a (4).
If they don't depend on each other we could buy (1,2,3) for min price and be merching on the (4)s at max to get even more profit.

From: almost
It doesn't look like the prices depend on each other.
The price of a (1) times 4 doesn't equal the price of a (4).
If they don't depend on each other we could buy (1,2,3) for min price and be merching on the (4)s at max to get even more profit.

Hmm ok nevermind I'm wrong. I was thinking of barrows set items and such, cause I know for a fact that they do. But yeah everyone just buy as many strength pots, rune scimitars, lobsters, swordies, etc. Hopefully you all aren't too late. Then make sure to hold them until the weekend if BH comes out tomorrow or sometime this week.

Until then we won't have an "official" item.

just tried to buy 3724 str pot (4) on ge hopefully i get it in time any idea when the update is due?

From: Bonfield
just tried to buy 3724 str pot (4) on ge hopefully i get it in time any idea when the update is due?

Supposedly today, Tuesday.

ohhh then this may not work out to well for me =[ anyways i guess il just have to see how it goes

edit: i brought 3724 pots for 5,325,320 lets see how this goes

From: Bonfield
ohhh then this may not work out to well for me =[ anyways i guess il just have to see how it goes

edit: i brought 3724 pots for 5,325,320 lets see how this goes

I've got 3k prayer pots, bought them for mid. You can't even get one for max now. And 15k lobbies for mid. Hopefully I won't get screwed over.

I think we should merch on str pots wether bh comes back today or not.
I'm just buying (1, 2, and 3) right now for mid.
So don't start buying (4)s at max yet.

From: almost
I think we should merch on str pots wether bh comes back today or not.
I'm just buying (1, 2, and 3) right now for mid.
So don't start buying (4)s at max yet.

Well piss I might have to sit this one out then, cause I currently have ALL my money (approx 40m) into prayer pots/lobsters/swordies right now. Make sure you check the graphs out also, they don't look too good their all nearing the top of a big rise.

I took a look at the graphs for potions and I'm pretty sure they actually do depend on each other.
Just for some reason the prices are allowed to vary just a tiny bit from does to dose, I think because buying (4)s is more useful than buying (1)s, so jagex lets the price reflect that a little bit.
But if you look at the graphs for any potion's (1)s and (4)s they will match up perfectly.

Str pots seem to be rising already and fast so I'm going to max price now.

From: almost
I took a look at the graphs for potions and I'm pretty sure they actually do depend on each other.
Just for some reason the prices are allowed to vary just a tiny bit from does to dose, I think because buying (4)s is more useful than buying (1)s, so jagex lets the price reflect that a little bit.
But if you look at the graphs for any potion's (1)s and (4)s they will match up perfectly.

Str pots seem to be rising already and fast so I'm going to max price now.

Alright so I was right, knew I wasn't crazy lol.

Okay, I bought 12 mil worth of pots (3) and (4) for max.

How did it go? How much did you guys earn/lose?

On strength pots or balck (g) helms?
We don't know yet about str pots.
Those are about to reach their potential in the next few days because bounty hunter was released.

Well so far so good. Across my three accounts that I merch with I bought prayer pots, lobsters, swordfish. I've made probably a combined 10m from everything across all 3 accounts so far, just hope it keeps rising!

If you guys haven't already, I'd say today you need to sell all your stuff!

From: Mjordan
If you guys haven't already, I'd say today you need to sell all your stuff!

Why today?

Hugo they're crashing today for sure mate.

From: faster789
Hugo they're crashing today for sure mate.

Why would they? I checked and they've just been rising the past few days.. (im talking about strength potions btw)

From: Hugolord
Why would they? I checked and they've just been rising the past few days.. (im talking about strength potions btw)

Well seems you got lucky hugo, as strength pots were about the only thing that rose today. Everything else dove. If you wanna be safe I'd sell all stuff you bought for the BH update now. Cause if it didn't drop today, then it sure as hell will in the next day or two I'd say.

Str pots are going to dive too.
I think they didn't today just because I spent over 10m on them today.

From: almost
Str pots are going to dive too.
I think they didn't today just because I spend over 10m on them today.

Oh wow your still buying them. Yeah I'd definitely advise to get rid of all of them.

Oh damn.. Should have listened to you guys.. it dropped today lol.

From: Hugolord
Oh damn.. Should have listened to you guys.. I dropped today lol.

Lol what did I tell you. Now you won't be able to sell them hardly I bet.

Nah sold em all but no profit lol xD

From: Hugolord
Nah sold em all but no profit lol xD

Aw lol. Hey thats good though. You gotta make mistakes to learn.

So, anyone have another item in mind to start on?

Items that rise because of updates are usually quick little bursts.
Everyone wants to do the updates during the first few days it's out.
As for another item, I'll start looking again.

Yeah I still managed to do 500k profit methinks :)
Onto another item ^^

I've seen a f2p merch clan be pretty successful with limpwurt roots.
And strength pots are probably going to be in demand more than usual, meaning limpwurt roots too.

Hmm I like. Limp roots look decent right now also. Might not get a huge rise, but big enough to make so good money

Limps would be another quick merch.
Probably not so much like the black (g) helms.
But if we do it right and buy a lot of them first at market price, the profit will be pretty good.

From: almost
Limps would be another quick merch.
Probably not so much like the black (g) helms.
But if we do it right and buy a lot of them first at market price, the profit will be pretty good.

Lets wait 2 days and see what they do, or if we find another item. If not, then limps it be!

Lets wait 2 days and see what they do, or if we find another item. If not, then limps it be!

Sounds good to me.

Okay sure ^^
Sounds good.

i lost like 3k with str pots…. had to go away for the weekend =[

anyways next item sounds good

I lost 1m.
But that was because I wanted to gain more money on my account that I actually use.
So I kept on buying them even when I knew they were going to crash.
It probably helped you guys out a bit too.

From: almost
I lost 1m.
But that was because I wanted to gain more money on my account that I actually use.
So I kept on buying them even when I knew they were going to crash.
It probably helped you guys out a bit too.

Yeah being in several merch clans, I've found out that greed gets the best of us a lot of times. We definitely need to keep that in mind while doing this, and play everything smart.

Greed?
What do you mean by that?

From: almost
Greed?
What do you mean by that?

We get too greedy and think we can make an item rise more than we know we can manage, or like your example you knew strength pots were most likely going to crash very soon but you kept buying more and more because they were rising so fast/much and you got greedy and wanted to make tons of gp.

Ohhh ok I see what you mean.
But I purposely lost money on one account to gain more on another (my main).

With the limp roots it looks like they are going to be bottomed out pretty soon.
I don't think they are yet though, so it looks like we might want to wait a little.
1-2 more days and we will probably see a rise.

From: almost
Ohhh ok I see what you mean.
But I purposely lost money on one account to gain more on another (my main).

With the limp roots it looks like they are going to be bottomed out pretty soon.
I don't think they are yet though, so it looks like we might want to wait a little.
1-2 more days and we will probably see a rise.

Ah alright I see.

And twas what I was thinking about the limps also. I say we start buying tomorrow or in 2 days no matter what ok

Let's just go with tomorrow.
I think everyone is ready.
Tomorrow I'll start buying them for market, then probably the next day or the day after that we will start doing nothing but max.

From: almost
Let's just go with tomorrow.
I think everyone is ready.
Tomorrow I'll start buying them for market, then probably the next day or the day after that we will start doing nothing but max.

Alright sounds good to me.


THE NEW ITEM IS LIMPWURT ROOTS! WE WILL START BUYING THEM TOMORROW MAY 13TH!!!!

just spent half my money on limps… any idea on how long we will have this item for cause i can not get back on here until monday/tuesday

anyone brought many limps?

From: Bonfield
just spent half my money on limps… any idea on how long we will have this item for cause i can not get back on here until monday/tuesday

anyone brought many limps?

That might be a problem. I won't be able to be back on this weekend either. I'd say we'll dump sometime around mid week next week.

That's going to be too long because everyone here could easily spend all their money in 2-3 days.
Then once we can't buy them anymore they will crash.
We need to dump before you guys leave.

i see what u mean…. i can sell on the 15th maybe saturday the 16th, will that be enough time?

That's enough time for me.
Has everyone already started buying them?
If so then we should be ready to sell by then.

I bought all of mine (12 mil worth)
They're pretty easy to buy right now..

urgh, investing all my cash now. for the first time. i buy at max right?

Yeah buy them at max

WTH happened guys?
Are you guys buying for max?
I spent 24m yesterday all on max.
It seems almost impossible for the price to not skyrocket from that alone.
But the price went down.

Maybe this has something to do with the price people sold them to me for.
Every time I bought some they were being sold for under market price.
I guess that makes the price drop even though my offer was for max?
It's either that or we've got someone selling a bunch of these really cheap.

Lol.. I bought for max.. no doubt some people bought for low lol…
I told you guys we should do this somewhere private -,-

i bought at max, got loads of change,.

Aww WTF so gay. -24gp thats not just a little drop, one day and I've already lost tons of cash. How the hell did all of us buying not make it rise.

look at the 30 day graph, who choice this item? its crap!

From: jakeyboy29
look at the 30 day graph, who choice this item? its crap!

I blame it on almost lol. I didn't like the item but oh well.

Hmm I like. Limp roots look decent right now also. Might not get a huge rise, but big enough to make so good money

I blame it on almost lol. I didn't like the item but oh well.

Idiot?

Not only contradicting yourself, but blaming the change of an item's price that no one could have expected solely on one person.
Nice.

look at the 30 day graph, who choice this item? its crap!

Yes look at the 30 day graph.
It shows that this is an excellent item for f2p-ers to merch.
That big spike in the middle of it made some people very rich.

I say an item and see what people think.
I never said "the item is limpwurt roots, you don't like it gtfo"
There was not a single person to say anything negative about it.
We just ended up with the wrong item at the wrong time.

I pulled out lost 1 mil methinks ^^

Woah easy there almost. Don't get all pissy on us now, I didn't mean to offend you sorry. I was being playful when I said that, considering both of us are basically the leaders of the group so I was putting the blame on you because we both decided on the item.

And yeah everyone pull out I suggest. I sold all mine for mid, lost 600k

I think anyone would get a little pissy if something is blamed on them.

I was putting the blame on you because we both decided on the item.

Because that makes no sense.
But ok let's move on.

I don't see how you guys are losing that much money though.
I didn't hardly lose any money.

From: almost
I think anyone would get a little pissy if something is blamed on them.

Because that makes no sense.
But ok let's move on.

I don't see how you guys are losing that much money though.
I didn't hardly lose any money.

Are you from the USA? Cause in the USA we always blame it on the other person if something bad happens, so I was jokingly putting it off on you. Guess it's hard to tell when it's just a post on a board. But sorry didn't mean to offend. Were good now.


And they've dropped like 70 gp in the last 2 days, how have you not lost a lot of money?

im keeping hold of mine for a week or so… i have hope.

From: almost
Maybe this has something to do with the price people sold them to me for.
Every time I bought some they were being sold for under market price.
I guess that makes the price drop even though my offer was for max?
It's either that or we've got someone selling a bunch of these really cheap.

This is what happening: f2p players using limps for money making (killing those monsters who drops them) and tries to sell at GE for mid, they fail because there is more people selling them than buying them so they try to sell at min they still cant sell them this is because there is almost nobody buying them. But now wildy came out and soon everybody started buying them but there were alot of limps for sale at that point because of the f2p players trying to sell them and then suddenly they get sold - for min, and the price drops.
Or something like that, that's the best theory I could figure

EDIT: Off-Topic: Oh, God… in the Quick-reply box there were 5-10 lines, but after I posted it I now see it is only 2 lines *sigh* :(

Ok Mjordan I gotchya.
Everything's cool :)

Jakeboy you're doing the right thing, more than likely.
I just now got finished selling all of mine and idk how but I actually made about 100k profit.
I should have waited a little more.

From: almost
Ok Mjordan I gotchya.
Everything's cool :)

Jakeboy you're doing the right thing, more than likely.
I just now got finished selling all of mine and idk how but I actually made about 100k profit.
I should have waited a little more.

Wow lol don't see how you managed that. But I'll be gone this weekend so I decided to just go ahead and get rid of them.

look today, up 41gp….

EDIT: sold. made 300k. thanks

From: jakeyboy29
look today, up 41gp….

EDIT: sold. made 300k. thanks

Wow thats ridiculous, I've never seen an item do anything like that lol.

From: Mjordan
Wow thats ridiculous, I've never seen an item do anything like that lol.

Then you've never seen an item being merchanted by a clan. "Goldmerch" is merchanting them again right now.

Then you've never seen an item being merchanted by a clan. "Goldmerch" is merchanting them again right now.

They are.
I noticed this morning and put up an offer on them for 20m.
I can't even get my hands on these at all right now.
Jake if you had waited maybe 2-3 more days that would be over a mil I bet.

I learned something from this.
When we pick an item to merch, we have to try buying it first.
If we get change back, you aren't going to be able to raise the price.
If you buy for max and get no change back, people are selling the item for max.
And with all the limp roots I've bought today, I have gotten no change back.

From: almost
They are.
I noticed this morning and put up an offer on them for 20m.
I can't even get my hands on these at all right now.
Jake if you had waited maybe 2-3 more days that would be over a mil I bet.

I learned something from this.
When we pick an item to merch, we have to try buying it first.
If we get change back, you aren't going to be able to raise the price.
If you buy for max and get no change back, people are selling the item for max.
And with all the limp roots I've bought today, I have gotten no change back.

+1 to that
What do you think the next item shall be?

i lost a couple hundred k….. i wish i waited, stupid weekend =] lol its only pixels anyway

i just lost 6m, i died. wont be joining in for a while.

From: jakeyboy29
i just lost 6m, i died. wont be joining in for a while.

Aw man not good.

Wish I had waited and not panicked and sold mine lol.

Wish I had waited and not panicked and sold mine lol.

I think just about everyone did.
It's still not too late for everyone to buy these again.
I'm still buying them.
They are going up really fast.

So whats our next item gonna be?

Really I started this so that we could merch items that aren't supposed to be merch-able.
And the point was to use multiple accounts to make profit on your main.

We could stick with some type of item that is 50k+ or we could try another item like limpwurt roots.
I think so far we have had the best success with the black (g) full helms though.
They take some time, but it worked.

This time we should spend a little time buying a small amount and see what kind of money we get back.
Also I think the item should be starting to rise.
That is always a good sign.

I say an item that costs a good amount, like black(g) helms. And if the item is starting to rise, then that means that someone else is starting to merch it, every clan that I've been in we've picked an item that is towards the bottom of its decline and we made it rise.

Yes maybe another black helm like (t) or something?

Rune plateskirt (t)?
http://itemdb-rs.runescape.com/p=kKmok3kJqOeN6D3mDdihco3oPeYN2KFy6W5--vZUbNA/viewitem.ws?obj=3477&scale=1
Rune plateskirt (g)?
http://itemdb-rs.runescape.com/p=kKmok3kJqOeN6D3mDdihco3oPeYN2KFy6W5--vZUbNA/viewitem.ws?obj=3476&scale=1

From: Zyt3x
Rune plateskirt (t)?
http://itemdb-rs.runescape.com/p=kKmok3kJqOeN6D3mDdihco3oPeYN2KFy6W5--vZUbNA/viewitem.ws?obj=3477&scale=1
Rune plateskirt (g)?
http://itemdb-rs.runescape.com/p=kKmok3kJqOeN6D3mDdihco3oPeYN2KFy6W5--vZUbNA/viewitem.ws?obj=3476&scale=1

What about platelegs? I'd think that those sell better.

From: Mjordan
What about platelegs? I'd think that those sell better.

Yeah, maybe you are right… Btw: I perfer wearing skirt even tho I am a guy in runescape; It weigths (sp?) 1kg less and are les expensive :o
Anyway: I am making my army (35 players) rich, soon I will join in with you

Hmm…
In my experience any kind of skirt is usually a turd bucket to try and sell.
Items that are constantly bought and sold work good.

From: almost
Hmm…
In my experience any kind of skirt is usually a turd bucket to try and sell.
Items that are constantly bought and sold work good.

+1 I've had many skirts in the past that I just couldn't sell…

So no skirts then. Anything else?

Black (g) platelegs have been shooting down but it looks like they are going to be evening out soon.
Perfect time to start buying them for a little under market price, then market price, then nothing but max.

We might want to wait just a little though to see if the price rises any.

http://itemdb-rs.runescape.com/viewitem.ws?obj=2593&scale=1

From: almost
Black (g) platelegs have been shooting down but it looks like they are going to be evening out soon.
Perfect time to start buying them for a little under market price, then market price, then nothing but max.

We might want to wait just a little though to see if the price rises any.

http://itemdb-rs.runescape.com/viewitem.ws?obj=2593&scale=1

Yups, looks like a good item.

Black (g) platelegs had a little rise today.
I think the first rise this month.
Looks like they've bottomed out.

Looks good.

From: almost
Black (g) platelegs had a little rise today.
I think the first rise this month.
Looks like they've bottomed out.

Looks good.

Yeah.. if they rise tomorrow if think it's safe to buy right?

Yeah.. if they rise tomorrow if think it's safe to buy right?

Yup I think so.
Depending on the change tomorrow, we should start buying and just start off by seeing how easy they are to buy for market price.
If it's really easy, we can buy some for under market.
It it's kinda hard, we can go up some.

Item / Price / Price Change (today)
Black platelegs (g) / 132.8k / -1,933

Doesn't look good… new item? ^^

you guys should take a look at fire and water talismans theyve nearly tripled in price over about 6 months

Now black platelegs are up again.
I'm not sure what they're wanting to do.
We need a new item or just a little bit more waiting and watching this one.

Looks good.
It went up over 1k today.
This is as low as I could see black (g) legs going, so it's a perfect time to buy.

From: almost
Looks good.
It went up over 1k today.
This is as low as I could see black (g) legs going, so it's a perfect time to buy.

So should we buy?

Erm, that rise might be due to my little autoer getting bored? I had to do something with 5m… bought a few of them (prolly that didn't really do a lot, but it might have helped ^^) ;)
A few went really well at mid price, but then I had to increase a bit… If you guys decide to buy, I'll hold onto them, if not, let me know and I'll let them go once the rise levels out. ^^

Oooh pure you can help us out then.
What price did you buy them for, did you get any change back, and how long did it take to buy at that price?

If the answers to that are good, then I suppose we have a new item.

They are going REALLY easy, bought most of them in sets, but I bought ten more seperate legs just this sec, for a price of 128,128gp each(lol, funny price, I know). Way below market price! Instant buy!
If we want to buy them, then we need to do so now, else the supply will kill the prices, and I'll lose a heck of cash :p

Wait, you bought all 10 instantly?
You are only allowed to buy 2 every 4 hours.

And if you are getting them very easily for below market then we need to wait a little longer.
I want to catch them when they are as low as they can go, so that they can only rise from there.

different accs man, I have more than one autoer… as this title implies: "autoing army", the others only had around 300k each though, only my main autoer had 5m, that's why I was posting out of his perspective until now, forgot to add that to my last post ;)

:duh: Lol I coulda figured that out.
When did you buy them?

Umm you do know that buying them in sets does NOTHING AT ALL to the price graph of the individual components of that set. So you say that you bought most of them in sets, that doesn't help raising the price of black (g) platelegs.

Umm you do know that buying them in sets does NOTHING AT ALL to the price graph of the individual components of that set

You sure?
This is news to me.

I know the price of sets is determined by the buying/selling of the individual pieces, so I would have guessed it works the other way around too.

From: almost
You sure?
This is news to me.

I know the price of sets is determined by the buying/selling of the individual pieces, so I would have guessed it works the other way around too.

Trust me, buying sets doesn't effect individual components graphs at all. So say were buying out rune helms, buying full rune sets, selling everything else and just keeping the helms will not make the graph of rune helms rise.

Black legs went up about 2k today.
I think we could start buying them now.
It hasn't gone down this week

Post here all that will buy!!!!

-Me
-Almost

Me, are we buying right now or what?

Umm…
I vote yes.
And it looks like no one is saying no.
So I guess so?

i will buy i hav3 like 10-12 mill

will buy as well

Alright everyone buy em then!

Ok we're off to a good start, and I haven't even started buying them yet.
I've got the usual 20m I'll spend on my main plus 10m I'll spend on my pure.

Also I think we could skip the buying for market.
I'm going straight for max and I should end up with more profit.

Post back here if you're getting back too much change.

I'm not even getting any at all lol. I've gotten 2 in the last like 24 hours.

From: Mjordan
I'm not even getting any at all lol. I've gotten 2 in the last like 24 hours.

I bought 14 already for max.
Went up 4k today :)

Doing good guys.
I've got over 10 so far and 0 change back.
4k+ is pretty good.

From: almost
Doing good guys.
I've got over 10 so far and 0 change back.
4k+ is pretty good.

Yeah I've got ten now.

Wow were getting quite a good rise!

keep buying guys!
remember to sell for max and buy for max again between accounts when you've bought as much as you could..
went up 5.4 k today
I bought like 50 already..

Yup these are rising pretty fast.
I have about 30 between 2 accounts.

From: almost
Yup these are rising pretty fast.
I have about 30 between 2 accounts.

Only 30? I've gotten 41 on my main, and like 15 on one of my mules.

good job guys.

Ya I didn't have a chance to start buying them the first day.

From: almost
Ya I didn't have a chance to start buying them the first day.

Me either, I've still made like over a 1m profit so far though.

Same here.
I have maybe like 70 now.
But they flattened today.
I guess we need to see what happens tomorrow.
Yesterday most of the ones I tried buying for max I ended up getting for market.

Edit:
It looks ok though, all the ones I got last night gave me no change back.
So tomorrow should be another rise.

SELL!!!!!! It's a well known strategy used that you should sell once the daily average line passes the 5 day line. I'v pu mine up for 5k less than max, if you sell for mid or less shame on you.

SELL!!!!!!

+1
Looks like other people are.
So there's not much other choice.
Don't sell low though!

From: almost
+1
Looks like other people are.
So there's not much other choice.
Don't sell low though!

sold all of mine for highest every day.
made 1.4 mil profit.
I am happy :)

Maybe we should all do that next time.
Then when we are ready to dump we will only have the items that we bought that day to get rid of.

From: Hugolord
sold all of mine for highest every day.
made 1.4 mil profit.
I am happy :)

Wait explain to me what you did, i'm confused.

From: Mjordan
Wait explain to me what you did, i'm confused.

When it flattened I didn't take any chances and I immediately sold all my helms for max price and every time the price changed I updated the offer to max price until I got rid of everything :)

Edit: In these situations it's still important to SELL at MAX so you don't fuck the prices up for everyone that's invest AND so you your price doesn't drop too much the next day either.

From: Hugolord
When it flattened I didn't take any chances and I immediately sold all my helms for max price and every time the price changed I updated the offer to max price until I got rid of everything :)

Edit: In these situations it's still important to SELL at MAX so you don't fuck the prices up for everyone that's invest AND so you your price doesn't drop too much the next day either.

Oh alright I see nevermind I just got confused.

shall we start thinking of a next item?

From: Hugolord
shall we start thinking of a next item?

I say yes indeed.

I'll run my script tonight that orders the items and start looking for a new one.

From: almost
I'll run my script tonight that orders the items and start looking for a new one.

sounds good, sounds good ^^

Wiz hat (t)
I'll keep looking around but this one has been rising pretty fast.

From: almost
Wiz hat (t)
I'll keep looking around but this one has been rising pretty fast.

No no that's a bad item, it's already risen waaaay too much. They will get dumped within a day or two.

But they're not being merched lol.

One of the best items I've noticed was wizard top (g).
But they cost a little over 600k each.

I think we should get an item that's dropped as much as it can do and MAYBE is raising a little bit…

I think we should get an item that's dropped as much as it can do and MAYBE is raising a little bit…

Yup that's what I did last time.
And it was pretty successful.
It also requires some waiting though.
For right now we need to keep a watch on all the items that are going down.
Once one starts it's rise we can start buying it.

From: almost
Yup that's what I did last time.
And it was pretty successful.
It also requires some waiting though.
For right now we need to keep a watch on all the items that are going down.
Once one starts it's rise we can start buying it.

Yep yep perfect strategy. Any items in mind though? The Wizzy top might cost a lil too much for a small clan like us. We don't have enough people or money to influence it to make big enough profit I don't believe.

it's not 2 months old yet, so there's still a chance to revive this, I say we get the SRL merch clan back into business. Who's with me? Almost, wanna make the clan again?

Dont see why we cant do this. Im in

I'm in as well… lost all my accounts to banning, but I think I should be able to get 5 bots with 2m each up and running in no time. :D

Well I most likely won't be participating that much like before. I've kindly moved away from RS almost completely.

im in.

:)

Hey I haven't been on SRL in several months so this has kind of died.
I've been merching on runescape most of the time and not autoing so much.
But now I actually know how to merch items and also have enough money to really merch an item.
So I'd like to try to get this running again.
If you guys are in.

I want to still have a f2p item, but also start a member's item for people to transfer from member accounts or to just make some money on their mains.
There's a lot bigger selection of items to merch in member's.

http://www.villavu.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=266

Already running

So here's another one of my ideas I feel has been stolen from me.
But this will make it easier.
I should be able to help a bit in there.

From: almost
So here's another one of my ideas I feel has been stolen from me.
But this will make it easier.
I should be able to help a bit in there.

Not stolen, expounded upon as you left for quite some time.

From: almost
So here's another one of my ideas I feel has been stolen from me.
But this will make it easier.
I should be able to help a bit in there.

You were the origonal idea of a merchanting clan?. All these clans stole your idea id get onto them…

You went inactive and nothing came of it.

I don't believe I said that I invented merchanting or anything.
But my idea was to use it to transfer money, as I explained in my first post.
It's a great thing that a merchanting section was started.
But it's a common thing on these forums to get an idea stolen and then no credit for it ever.
That is part of the reason I'm not active anymore.