SRL Archive - Senior News and General

The date of transfer is closing in. A lot of steps have been set, but a lot of them are still to be made.
First of all, I have finally been able to contact Dankness across the ocean and he has agreed that we take over hosting. So we're cool.

Things we've done:

• We have bought VBulletin
• We have rootaccess to SRL
• We have copied the SRL-Database. (1.1 Gb…:) Thank god we never pruned!)
• Wizz has flowed SRL into the new VBulletin

Things that need to be done:

• Redirecting the I.P to the new I.P.
• Modding the VBulletin
• Setting up a Subversion
• Transferring the attachments
• Rewriting the stats system. This will probably mean that we will start all over from scratch to give everyone a new change to build up new statstime. Current winners will be rewarded. Hopefully in the new system we can link forumaccounts to the stats in order to have a counter in everybodies avatar.
• Buying the Satellite skin…or maybe even a new skin?
• Networking. Issuing a masmail and advertising on our friendly neighbours boards.

Now, in order to stay attractive to a new generation of programmers/creatives we are currently thinking about broadening the SRL-scope. We have a couple of ideas but SSRL input is very much appreciated.

Things we are considering:

• Focus on other games (legit as well as cheating)
• Marketplace (Members and above)
• a Spam Central
• More "season" looks (banners)
• Loteries, games, shoutboxes..etc.

I know many of you are not attracted to some of the abovementioned thoughts, but seeing SRL is not the only community around hosting cheats - albeit the nicest, yaah- I dont want this community to die out. To many of us it has become an anchorpoint in their lives. I know it has to me and I 'd go to great difficulties keeping SRL alive. We have done a lot of good things for may people accros the globe.

So, this is where we stand. SRL will be transferred in the next few days (weeks) . To most the transfer will be totally transparant. As mentioned above, I will be issuing a massmail, so prepare for some good ol' man Fawki babble in your mailbox one of these days.

…and input to new directions is very much appreciated! So start thinking my friends!

P.S. Any money that will flow from advertisements/donations will be added up and will be given back to the community in forms of better hosting, projectdevelopment or hell even giving memberaccounts away… just a thought. We will keep you informed.

P.S.P.S. I think I will become active again :D

Sounds good :) Also, I'd say we should keep this skin, almost all the other ones remind me of poor looking freewebs skins.

From: WT-Fakawi

P.S.P.S. I think I will become active again :D

Ooooh :D


As for the ideas, I thought we would never have a market place 100%, but I'm sure times changed. If we could maintain it well, then it could be pretty nice. (For Markus, firecaping would be great here maybe.)

Add better links to the IRC, and forget the shoutbox. I don't view the IRC because I always forget it, but if something stood out like a link on the nav bar, then I'd go there more often.

Spam Central = BBQ Pit?

Season looks couldn't hurt :)

I think we should start swapping the theme to the Christmas theme at Christmas again :p I know I set my personal theme to the Christmas :p

But DEFINITELY keep Satellite as the main theme. It is one of the better themes out there by far.

As for market place…. Sure…. but black market no way. Maybe like selling members pins and RS -> RS or RS Services. But accounts, I say stay away from that. And we should have very strict rules and implement and "Approved Trader" rank if we do get this and allow more than RS -> RS

More games… I don't know, I hate forums who have too broad of a focus, they never work well.

Spam Central -> Rename the "General Dump"? Basically same thing

Shout boxes no.
Lotteries, that'd be good and we could do like members pins as the prize or I can get legit product keys for some software through work.

As Ejj said, definitely make the links to IRC more prominent. Maybe even embed a web client into the SRL site?

Also I have already talked to Wizzup? about this and I can help with the set up and modding etc.

I'd say that there are enough mature and trustable members in the community to take care of a market, and also the thing I've written many times about how your own brains are what are going to save you from being scammed in the first place.

Spam Central = BBQ Pit?

General Dump is the spam central, BBQ Pit is for appropriate offtopic with a little venting allowed.


Hobbit, a black market can work if it is strictly controlled and all cases of scamming will be sorted out instantly, and a scam is a permanent ban, if we want it to work there can't be any mercy or compassion for people that endanger the wealth of other members.

Also, I'm with you in the idea of the black market being limited, a black market of the Sythe scale is impossible to be controlled, as we have seen, so we should only have Gold, Account and Script or Pin sales.

I don't think a shoutbox would be a good idea. Maybe an IRC webclient hosted at SRL? A link next to iSpy would probably attract more people.

Also, maybe a restructure? I was thinking of something like this:

Mods
–Subsections

Dev
–Subsections

SSRL
–Subsections

Members
–News
—-Celebrations
—-Tutorials (?)
–Help
–Scripts
—-Test Corner
**No subsections, but tags like [wc],[mining],etc.
–SRL Development
–Appliances

Public Forum
–Rules
–News
—-SRL Updates
—-Site Discussion
—-Celebrations
—-Discussion&Debates
–Tutorial Island
—-Tut Subsections
–Help
—-Installing SCAR/SRL
—-Scripting Help
–Scripts
—-Test Corner
—-First Script
—-Scripting Competition
**No subsections, but tags like [wc],[mining], etc.
–Runescape
—-Updates
–Programming
**No subsections, but tags like [delphi],

, etc.

Waste of Time
--Graphics
--Games
--Music/TV
--General Dump
----Banned From RS (?)

Get rid of About SRL, Programming and SCAR as section. It would shrink the first page and leave more room for expansion. I also think it would be easier for people to see where to post.

Scripts should be kept in their own categories, it's a pain in the ass to browse through many pages looking for a tag…

EDIT: BRING BACK USERS VIEWING THREAD!

http://www.awesomestyles.com/tutorials/vbulletin/thread-prefixes-in-vbulletin-38.html

I'm not sure if you can filter with prefixes though.

EDIT: you can, bottom-left: Display options > Prefix
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=15

Looking good… Few thoughts:

Focusing on other games might be interesting, if people would only find some semi-popular and playable games to focus on.

I don't think a shoutbox would be any use, it'd just be a bandwith waste and spammed with useless and unnecessary stuff, we already have IRC for that :p

The thing about black markets is that it attracts scammers, and you sort of can't ban them before they get to scam (sythe.org :/) so atleast to me they'd be a pretty un-wanted addon to SRL and I'm sure many would crawl here after getting banned from sythe.

I like the "approved trader" sort of idea though, so that you'd have to actually contribute before you're allowed to do business.. It should set the bar for scamming higher as you can't just register and start spamming "selling **** 50/50 or u first" and get a few pixels and a ban.. People might think that the pixels wouldn't be worth getting banned for.

Few things I'd like to say about an SRL Black Market:

• SRL Members+ only. Should bar at least 95% of all scammers
• NO ACCOUNT SALES, it's too easy to get scammed an account, lost around ~10m due to scammed accounts.
• Have services (quests, torso, firecaping xD, training etc), gold, PIN, item(?) and maybe paid scripts section?
• Have official MM who know wtf they are doing, instead of picking some people randomly from (S)SRL. We don't want the MM to get scammed do we?
• There's a nice mod for VB called iTrader, latest version is for Vb 3.7.x, but some posts @ vbulletin.org say it works fine at 3.8. Linkylinky.
• Last thing: IF there's going to be a SRL Black Market, then hereby I apply for MM or mod or whatever, anyways I'm willing to take care of it. I got some experience in having black markets :)

About Sattelite: we can use the "free trial" until we actually buy it ;)

From: Markus
About Sattelite: we can use the "free trial" until we actually buy it ;)

Or we could try to do everything legal…

Edit Here: I'm willing to contribute significantly towards the purchase of Satellite.

Second Edit: I'm loosing it today.. I clicked "quote" instead of "edit: the first time… xD

I can't say all of the new ideas appeal to me, but I can see how others would enjoy them. For the most part, everything looks good!

Making the chat more accessible and noticeable is a great idea, also. I'd really suggest trying to do so (with a web client, links, etc. like has been mentioned).

I've never seen a shoutbox that didn't make me want to punch someone in the face.

Market yes. Blackmarket no. A thread to scunerape if anything.

No shoutbox. Partial blackmarket, as others have said.

Why do we have to buy satelite again if we already own it? Ditto for vB?

Marketplace would be a great idea. Maybe an SRL Members merchanting forum, there's enough people there interested to make it worthwhile and all the extra people means more cash. Keep this theme :p

Might run into a few troubles though when upgrading VB…this seems to be a heavily modded script, I get the impression that we're starting afresh with a new one?

Integrated SRL-Stats is a great idea. Maybe have another row of boxes under rep, different color of course, and for every month of autoed time or something increase it by 1. Then when it gets to, say, a year, replace with a gold box or something, and start stacking up the months until it gets to 2 years and so on.

From: nielsie95

EDIT: you can, bottom-left: Display options > Prefix
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=15

With prefixes I could make the tutorial island so much better if people wanted me to finish it with an improved version. I was basically using improv prefixes :p

I agree with Nielsie on the prefix thing for script section. As long as you can categorize by prefix when you want I think it's a better alternative because you can see the best scripts overall as well as in each category.

I also agree with partial black market.

From: Markus
Few things I'd like to say about an SRL Black Market:

• SRL Members+ only. Should bar at least 95% of all scammers
• NO ACCOUNT SALES, it's too easy to get scammed an account, lost around ~10m due to scammed accounts.
• Have services (quests, torso, firecaping xD, training etc), gold, PIN, item(?) and maybe paid scripts section?
• Have official MM who know wtf they are doing, instead of picking some people randomly from (S)SRL. We don't want the MM to get scammed do we?
• There's a nice mod for VB called iTrader, latest version is for Vb 3.7.x, but some posts @ vbulletin.org say it works fine at 3.8. Linkylinky.
• Last thing: IF there's going to be a SRL Black Market, then hereby I apply for MM or mod or whatever, anyways I'm willing to take care of it. I got some experience in having black markets :)

About Sattelite: we can use the "free trial" until we actually buy it ;)

Don't know about iTrader, but otherwise sounds good :) I'm fine with no account sales,

[*]Have services (quests, torso, firecaping xD, training etc), gold, PIN, item(?) and maybe paid scripts section?

is nice.

From: n3ss3s
Don't know about iTrader, but otherwise sounds good :) I'm fine with no account sales,
is nice.

It's basically some kind of system to keep track of your vouches. Sp0rk-eh.com used it and we use q clone for SMF of it.

Have services (quests, torso, firecaping xD, training etc), gold, PIN, item(?) and maybe paid scripts section?

Heh. Heh. How's your tutorial going?


Anyway, A partial blackmarket. As in, members+ can be able to find the black market, and, as stated above, that should block most of the spammers.

I personally quite like the theme we're using, if it's satellite.

No Shoutbox, They're a large waste of resources, and furthermore, isn't that what the IRC is for?


Yay, Fakawi is active!

if you do have a black market make it secret and srl mem +
if it is known that there is a black market i think there might be an influx of scammers.

~RM

From: Rasta Magician
if you do have a black market make it secret and srl mem +
if it is known that there is a black market i think there might be an influx of scammers.

~RM

If kept SRL Member+ I don't think that should be problematic. And if it is, it would be a good way to weed out the ranks.

Black market would have to be seniors if anything, as we can be fairly sure jagex will hear about anything in members. It seems that jagex is more concerned about blackmarket sites than botting.

There is one thing in particular, I'd like to see happen.

I personally think we should be more strict about the bans. The fact that a person can come in here and make a script to steal passes and have virtually no consequences is, in my eyes, a huge mistake.

When a person breaks the rules in a way that hurts OTHER members, I think it's bordering to disgusting that they come right back here. If they did it for the second time, and got banned, they would just come back AGAIN because there has been some soft-hearted bans.

I think we should lay weight on the fact, that hurting other members will be an incontravertible ban. No excuses.
That includes cheating in the new market (Which I also think should not be a black market). That would lead to a permanent (Really permanent) just as stealing a password from somebody.


That's the thing I'd request the most.

EDIT/P.S: On a less serious note, "Appliances" should still be changed to "Applications"

-Knives

I think we should add a mobile version of the site.
I don't know if new VB has an option for that built in but it wouldn't surprise me…

I got onto SRL from my BlackBerry but its very large and it started me at the bottom and took about 10 min to scroll to top.


Edit:

I have a rar file of about 1276 VB addons.. here are a few (so far) that I think we should add.

1. [Ajax] Check for similar thread before posting a new one
2. [AJAX] Moderator Statistics
3. [Ajax] Quick Ban Hack !
4. [AJAX]Did you know … (Tip Management)
5. [Naxon] AdminCP And ModCP Links On Navbar
6. Admin CP Authentication mod to secure your CP
7. Akismet - spam detection
8. Allow URLs in posts only after a minimum number of posts (to reduce spam)
9. Another Members that have Visited Statistics mod
10. Auto Birthday PM
11. Automatically Create Usernote on Username Change
12. Coloured Usergroup Legend
13. Cyb - PayPal Donate
14. Report PM
15. EzIRC Chat
16. Is this post reported
17. Log Logins Hack
18. New Members Page
19. Panic Button
20. Quick Account Switch
21. Rules
22. Who has read a Thread
23. Who looked my profile

Why / What: (Number below match up with addon names above)
1. When a title is typed in for a new thread it searches for similar threads and a java script windows pops up showing them the results (if any) of similar thread. This may cut down on repeated topics

2. Just cause we have in this version

3. Make banning easier so we don't have to go through Mod/Admin CP every time

4. A cool forum embedded version of Wizzup?'s signature

5. So I don't have to scroll ALL the way to the bottom of the page to access CP's :rolleyes:

6. We have now, so this we can use to add to new VB

7. Can set up to alert of possible people spamming into junior members. If we want we can set to take actions but I think too much automation is dangerous so I think just alerts will suffice.

8. Make it so the spam bots who post 800 links of cell phones and viagra when they get past the captcha cant post anyways

9. Cool statistics mod

10. I think it would be a nice gesture and would make a lot of people have an extra sense of being welcome.

11. So then in the Great Name Change thread there will always be a note of the change in names on the user account that only staff can see so that it will never be forgotten of the change.

12. We have now, this is to include with new VB

13. Have a version of this now… again.. just listing to bring over to new VB

14. This gives us more features in the PM system. The most important (IMO) is the ability to report a PM. I know there has been a lot of stuff going through PM's and sure people can forward them to us… But how do we know they didn't alter it? This way people can report a PM properly.

15. Addon to add WebIRC to forums (as suggested above)

16. Cut down on post reports that have already been reported but deemed no action to be taken.

17. We have now and has been very very helpful in the past when forum accounts have been compromised.

18. You can set these to force view a new member to a page. This can be used at various ranks. Eg.. Registered users forced to view Rules page. Junior members to read some other helpful info. SRL Members to read rules for that rank and so on…

19. This is set in the UserCP and can be set to any other URL and so if they are at school or work or something and they should not be on SRL they can hit the button and it directs them to that site (Hahah not needed by far but i thought it was just kinda neat)

20. This is set in the AdminCP only by Admins only and it set on a account to account basis. So I think it would be helpful for us admins since we basically all have our own test accounts, we can link them to our accounts and easily swap back and forth between them without the hassle of logging out and logging back in, then logging out again and logging in again and changing then logging out again etc.

21. Give us the ability to have an official rules page with a link on the NavBar rather than just a thread.

22. This is an admin only feature and can be used to view date and times that users have read a specific thread. This could be used to better find out account stealers and confirm their guilt.

23. Wanted by some users, thread here. I just happened to have a mod for it :p

Things we are considering:

* Focus on other games (legit as well as cheating)
* Marketplace (Members and above)
* a Spam Central
* More "season" looks (banners)
* Loteries, games, shoutboxes..etc.

If we focus on other games, we should focus on games that are also autoable. But i gave it some thought. Imagine we have something of the quality of Tip.it and that at the end of every guide there is a link to a script that auto's the specific skill talked about? and things like that. Could bring a whole new crowd into cheating.
Maybe make a small forum for neopets? And any other specific games that we can think of?

If we make the market place Seniors+ it won't really change much, it'll make about 10 of us happier and 10 sadder :p But i think we should still have a look into script sales and yakman's "rent" system…

~RM

Lots of those mods though would add more queries to the database every page load, so we'd wanna have a decent server just to make sure everything still runs smoothly

From: King of Knives
There is one thing in particular, I'd like to see happen.

I personally think we should be more strict about the bans. The fact that a person can come in here and make a script to steal passes and have virtually no consequences is, in my eyes, a huge mistake.

When a person breaks the rules in a way that hurts OTHER members, I think it's bordering to disgusting that they come right back here. If they did it for the second time, and got banned, they would just come back AGAIN because there has been some soft-hearted bans.

I think we should lay weight on the fact, that hurting other members will be an incontravertible ban. No excuses.
That includes cheating in the new market (Which I also think should not be a black market). That would lead to a permanent (Really permanent) just as stealing a password from somebody.


That's the thing I'd request the most.

EDIT/P.S: On a less serious note, "Appliances" should still be changed to "Applications"

-Knives

How would you ban someone permanently when the person has a dynamic ip or uses a proxy? It's impossible to ban someone for good. That's why it's way better to know a certain person created a new account and look after it, instead of not knowing if he returned.

Great! Love your input. Very much appreciated. But first we (Wizz) will concentrate on feeding our VB with the database. Dank uses 3.6.4, we have 3.8.x. There are a number of things that need to be tweaked. For instance, when Wizz first flowed all entries (took 10 hours!) all seemed well, except ten users where gone, amongst….Wizzup? lol. Thats no good!

Now, our Broadband Modem has crashed, awaiting a new one from the hosting company, and that takes three to five days…so further delay.

Once we set it up, I or Wizz will notify you to check if all is well.

Im currently setting up a dummy site on the impsoft boxes to demo all the mods listed above

From: Hobbit
Im currently setting up a dummy site on the impsoft boxes to demo all the mods listed above

Cool.

EDIT: I am currently syncing the Developers and Public Subversions. This seems to work fine, so I suggest we move to the new link ASAP. (For Subversion, that is!)

I want a Club Live and Gamevance cheating section for SSRL + Devs ONLY :D

I think SRL should get a rapidshare account. Their downloads are pretty good if you subscribe. I dunno if everyone'd rather use the forum, though, as you pretty much only want to host large files, and I can't think of many large SCAR-related files…

From: _ChArMz
I want a Club Live and Gamevance cheating section for SSRL + Devs ONLY :D

Haha, that would be awesome :)

Club Live is only useful for Americans…

What is club live, on a side note?

From: Wizzup?
Club Live is only useful for Americans…

Yeah, only those god damn americans can use it :D, haha sry wiz

anyway club live is beast, if you live in america you play games, get points, then redeem them for prizes such as xbox 360/vista ultimate..its hosted by microsoft. www.club.live.com

From: _ChArMz
Yeah, only those god damn americans can use it :D, haha sry wiz

anyway club live is beast, if you live in america you play games, get points, then redeem them for prizes such as xbox 360/vista ultimate..its hosted by microsoft. www.club.live.com

I wouldn't even trade a level 3 character in Runescape for Windows® "Vista© Ultimate"!
EDIT: On topic now. :p

From: Wizzup?
I wouldn't even trade a level 3 character in Runescape for Windows® "Vista© Ultimate"!
EDIT: On topic now. :p

… sell it on ebay.

Hey people! This is definitely something I didn't expect to come back to but nevertheless it's exciting!

As far as the new forum goes, I'm going to have to keep what I do alive and suggest a "Community Project" category in both Free SRL and Members SRL. It would encompass all co-scripts, plans to toss around the Grand Exchange, Big projects, or even research or data accumulation.

I still wanna be a leader of something ;)

As far as the other topics go I agree with the majority of you, partial blackmarket, ect…

(I may become active again as well ;))

Check out the labels at this forum:

http://forums.bit-tech.net/forumdisplay.php?f=2


I like!

Eww…makes the page so noisy

I like it, even just for tutorial section… but we'd pick less painful colors to look at…

I think if we made the labels a better bmp, made them softer / vista-esk it would look nice.

I agree, the text is pretty ugly, but just imagine how nice it would look if used with the RS skill icons instead?

Ooooh now that is a good idea, I like that.

But the scripts sections are already sections so I don't think they really need labels do they? The only place i could see it being huge benefit off the bat would be tutorials.

With the tutorial section, we should make it so you have to apply to make a tutorial. As in, maybe SSRL+ have to look at the tuts to make sure they aren't crap. I hate seeing some pop up that have NOTHING to do with anything. Torrents etc are fine but like, how to get a free pop out of soda machine, etc. don't make much sense. And also clean them up, so the tut section is clean.

Hmm, it would unlock potential for other things, like different icons for power training, banking, or maybe updated/outdated? SSRL Members + or SRL Members + would be able to have the power to declare a script outdated, and if it is, they could press a new button on the page they can see which would automatically change the icon?

SRL should evolve as the members evolve with it. Maybe we should consider a "SCAR-development" board, with in depth info how to create your own SCAR.

How about we remove the SCAR from it, though, as that'd tie it to a product… what about just "Automation Development" or something?

Or, you know, Bot Development

Automation sounds more official.

Also wider. +1 for automation.

Automation Development it will be.

Any subsection request gentlemen?

I think making sure we actually get some content in there is more important than building more subforums at first.