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Rsbot


XxsomethingxX

2009-01-16 18:07:42

I've been looking at their forums and been seeing a lot of people getting banned. Is this because Rsbot is so detectable? Or is Jagex just cracking down on the banning now?

Hugolord

2009-01-16 18:11:12

No, it's just too damned detectable.

NCDS

2009-01-16 18:12:15

RSBot is detectable. In my opinion anyways, tho there are plenty of people here who will argue the point that it is no more detectable than Scar. Which may be true, but I believe RSBot is more detectable.

TViYH

2009-01-16 18:15:40

RSBot is no more detectable than SMART.

The reason RSBot users get banned so often is that the scripts use no randomness, and have very little to none antiban.

Hugolord

2009-01-16 18:23:59

From: TViYH
RSBot is no more detectable than SMART.

The reason RSBot users get banned so often is that the scripts use no randomness, and have very little to none antiban.


Wrong, I got banned on it making a script.

TViYH

2009-01-16 18:25:05

Because the technique you used obviously wasn't random enough.

Hugolord

2009-01-16 18:26:26

Oh it was very random, i had it walking a "playground" which can't get any more randomized really..

and besides I was testing it for just over an hour.

I like your siggy btw.

Freddy1990

2009-01-16 20:02:10

According to psb the signed loader makes it detectable…

kingarabian

2009-01-16 20:06:28

Jagex is detecting there loader.

Edit: What freddy said^

XxsomethingxX

2009-01-16 20:15:52

Is there a way to make it not use the signed loader? Sorry if this is an easy question, I'm just trying to get some information. :)

turbobk

2009-01-16 20:59:53

Rsbot uses BCEL to set accessors to collect information from the client.
Jagex could detect how many methods are in the classes and ban based on that, because they would know you are using a modified client.
SMART uses reflection to collect information from the client, and it does not modify the client.

So Rsbot is alot more detectable than SMART..

XxsomethingxX

2009-01-16 21:04:16

Are they aware of this? Or do they deny the fact that Jagex can detect them? Is it possible to alter the code at all so that it can use reflection too or would that be too much transition from this language to Java?

turbobk

2009-01-16 21:11:02

From: XxsomethingxX
Are they aware of this? Or do they deny the fact that Jagex can detect them? Is it possible to alter the code at all so that it can use reflection too or would that be too much transition from this language to Java?


Yes they are aware of this since speljohan and Quaters (creators), used BCEL to modify the client. Which makes it detectable.

We are not affiliated with Rsbot in anyway, so you would have to ask them about adding and removing things, and yes, it would be too much of a transition, although it could be done, no one would bother.

NiCbaZ

2009-01-16 21:16:27

From: TViYH
RSBot is no more detectable than SMART.

The reason RSBot users get banned so often is that the scripts use no randomness, and have very little to none antiban.



How do you know this?

Rsbot uses BCEL to set accessors to collect information from the client.
Jagex could detect how many methods are in the classes and ban based on that, because they would know you are using a modified client.
SMART uses reflection to collect information from the client, and it does not modify the client.

So Rsbot is alot more detectable than SMART..


agreed, i have no idea how TViYH can make this statements, wheres your source ?!

turbobk

2009-01-16 22:14:52

I don't remember lol, I was told these things quite a while ago.

NiCbaZ

2009-01-16 22:27:09

i think your right i was saying that about TvIYH psot.

TViYH

2009-01-16 22:30:01

Mate, if you use RSBot CORRECTLY, you won't get banned.

Make the breaks more often, and longer.
Use only scripts that have EXTREME antiban.
Use only updated scripts.
Use the scripts in populated worlds.
Don't auto for periods longer than 3 hours.

If you do this, you'll have the same chances of getting banned as SCAR.

XxsomethingxX

2009-01-16 22:38:50

From: TViYH
Mate, if you use RSBot CORRECTLY, you won't get banned.

Make the breaks more often, and longer.
Use only scripts that have EXTREME antiban.
Use only updated scripts.
Use the scripts in populated worlds.
Don't auto for periods longer than 3 hours.

If you do this, you'll have the same chances of getting banned as SCAR.


Yeah, the breaks happen once every 1.5-2 hours. Way too long, imo.

Anti-ban is eh…

I feel much much more comfortable with SCAR. Much.

TViYH

2009-01-16 23:02:52

That's because you're supposed to change the length and time of the breaks.

You're supposed to download AntiBan and only use scripts with good AntiBan.

Think about what you're saying.

kingarabian

2009-01-17 01:27:58

Jagex uses reflection to detect deobs.