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While this is completely unrelated to SRL, I really need to rant.

Recently day to day I have been seeing scare images and the like about Israel and such. People getting killed in the wars and people just freaking out about it. I can't believe what these people are putting together to scare people.

Does everyone think that the human race has evolved beyond killing or something? I mean c'mon, people are dying everyday, yet the ones that are apparently dying recently aren't right. We have been killing each other for thousands of years, but now we can't?

I am not anywhere near a murder supported or anything of that nature, but seriously people want to stop the killing by disrespecting the dead.

Take for example this link off of reddit

http://youngfoxredux.blogspot.com/2009/01/take-walk-through-gaza.html

Everybody is complaining that war is suddenly not good. That people shouldn't die in war, that people shouldn't die whatsoever. Seriously just looking at this site disgusts me. Not due to the graphic nature of the pictures, but the disrespect for the dead.

Think back to WWII when millions of people died in the war. The jews were tortured and killed, and so were every other nationality, just not as heavily. People didn't constantly disrespect the dead by trying to make scare tactics out of it, people actually had respect for the dead and also the people fighting the war and they knew it was for the better.

Even though the scene in Israel is far different from what happened in WWII, all wars deserve respect and should not try to be undercut. People are risking there lives for this war. Sometimes innocents get caught in the crossfire, but it has been happening for thousands of years and we are suddenly saying its completely immoral and should never happen and completely ignoring the fact it has been happening for thousands of years.

Also, I will bring up the fact that millions of people around the world are dying, yet only the ones in Israel get any of there so-called "respect" of showing scare tactics. The human race is the most cruel thing in the world and you cannot stop it. No matter what you do, someone, somewhere will be getting tortured or killed.

Also, if people want to stop the war what will happen to the people we are fighting? Will the people that stopped the war try to use peace tactics? Like that ever worked. They will just be lined up and shot on sight. The world is a cruel place, and you must be cruel to survive. It's a dog eat dog world, and the ones with the most power and the least hesitancy of killing, usually are the most powerful and the most respected. Face it, The human race is cruel.

Wow i agree with you so completely, it is sad but true. I think the vast majority of people are good, but not everyone can be reasoned with. The whole Isreal conflict showed that. Its odd to me how people glorify WWII, which i think is awesome, but denounce today's wars by saying they are all crimes against humanity and way should not exist, we should be able to live in harmony and talk with our enemys because they arent such a bad group of people at all.

I <3 you Mr.Klean. You speak My mind for me :)

Those pictures were horrific… They nearly made me chuck.

From: noidea
Those pictures were horrific… They nearly made me chuck.

Welcome to the real world…

I think its funny that those are pics of the Isreal conflict, but they say those are america's tax dollars >_> people just like to blame america for everything dont they?

Why are you trying to justify the killing of innocent people because we have been doing it since of the creation of us? We have evolved for the past thousands of years, maybe we can evolve into a more respecting species.

And I will have you know, people in the beginning thought the war was bad. Just the people spearheading the whole idea decided AFTER the found out that the "intelligence" they had acquired was wrong.

And who exactly are you guys fighting?

Evolution is a matter of opinion, i would prefer you would not bring that up. Intelligent beings (such as ourselves) have difference of opinions, that is why we will never get along and why we will never have a 1 world government (unless they follow the antichrist, i believe it is a tool of the antichrist, but that is a different discussion)…

From: Capricorn

And who exactly are you guys fighting?

The World, Fuck'em.


Sorry for language but im somewhat disgusted with the majority of people in general.

I agree with Mr.Klean… except for this… just because it has been happening for thousands of years … does not make it right….

From: sirlaughsalot
Evolution is a matter of opinion, i would prefer you would not bring that up. Intelligent beings (such as ourselves) have difference of opinions, that is why we will never get along and why we will never have a 1 world government (unless they follow the antichrist, i believe it is a tool of the antichrist, but that is a different discussion)…

So you believe our culture, our idea and our beliefs don't evolve? I wasn't arguing for evolution of us genetically but of us mentally. What about language? Does language not evolve? This whole thread is filled to the top with opinions, why can I not bring up my opinion because it is difference? If you do not believe in evolution of species, thats fine, I could care less what you believe. But if you say our culture, our language, everything about us hasn't evolved then I believe you should pick up a history book.

We started up using spears made of flint and communicating with simple vocal sounds. And now we have hundreds of languages and we fly in space. I do not think its right to believe we, as the human species has not evolved. And that is why I believe we can throw all violence away and get rid of it for good. Just everyone needs someone to start it.

And if you believe difference in opinions is reason to fight then I believe that is a very bad outlook on everything. I goto school that has a lot of cultural differences in the students and varying beliefs too. I am friends with people who believe in Christianity, Judaism. People who do not believe in anything. People who are right wing, left wing and centralists. I live day to day without conflict. Maybe its just a select few who are intolerable to other beliefs.

N C D S:

I dislike a lot of people too, but I do not believe I should start a fight with them. Fighting, no communication happens. When friends see their friends fighting, they want to protect them. Soon you have a bigger fight that is just going to escalate. Besides, if you fight the world your standard of living will go down. I highly doubt you would want that.

From: Capricorn
So you believe our culture, our idea and our beliefs don't evolve? I wasn't arguing for evolution of us genetically but of us mentally. What about language? Does language not evolve? This whole thread is filled to the top with opinions, why can I not bring up my opinion because it is difference? If you do not believe in evolution of species, thats fine, I could care less what you believe. But if you say our culture, our language, everything about us hasn't evolved then I believe you should pick up a history book.

We started up using spears made of flint and communicating with simple vocal sounds. And now we have hundreds of languages and we fly in space. I do not think its right to believe we, as the human species has not evolved. And that is why I believe we can throw all violence away and get rid of it for good. Just everyone needs someone to start it.

And if you believe difference in opinions is reason to fight then I believe that is a very bad outlook on everything. I goto school that has a lot of cultural differences in the students and varying beliefs too. I am friends with people who believe in Christianity, Judaism. People who do not believe in anything. People who are right wing, left wing and centralists. I live day to day without conflict. Maybe its just a select few who are intolerable to other beliefs.

N C D S:

I dislike a lot of people too, but I do not believe I should start a fight with them. Fighting, no communication happens. When friends see their friends fighting, they want to protect them. Soon you have a bigger fight that is just going to escalate. Besides, if you fight the world your standard of living will go down. I highly doubt you would want that.

If you mean in that respect, sure we have "evolved". We cannot get rid of violence, it would make it extremely easy for someone to rule over us with an iron fist. That is was Soviet Russia tried to do, get rid of privately owned weapons, and persecute anyone who is religious.

Your friends tolerate your opinion but if ya'll cross each other you will either, try to end the discussion as soon as possible, or, get in a heated debate or have some kind of confrontation. With Hamas their charter calls for the destruction of Israel, if you dont think that is justified you are a person with no common sense. People may get caught in the crossfire and it is sad, but if someone who cannot be reasoned with wants to destroy your family wouldnt you do whatever it takes to get them first?

From: sirlaughsalot
If you mean in that respect, sure we have "evolved". We cannot get rid of violence, it would make it extremely easy for someone to rule over us with an iron fist.

Your friends tolerate your opinion but if ya'll cross each other you will either, try to end the discussion as soon as possible, or, get in a heated debate or have some kind of confrontation.

On the first point, people will never be able to rule with a iron fist as long as there is one single goal that everyone shares. If everyone wants peace and everyone becomes pacifists then the only people left are people who believe in violence. And if they can not live with sharing the planet with others then the people can always retaliate. The government can only employ so many troops. There are something like 230 Million people in the US. You think the government could control everyone if everyone decided they didn't want the government controlling them?

And just so you know, me and my friends debate about our beliefs and ideas all the time. Its how we evolve our beliefs. I have not gotten into a fight since I was in elementary school. If you are not mature enough to discuss about your opinion with other people then you should know better not to discuss that topic. And sure, there are times when my friends do not feel like discussing such matters, and they tell me. Just like how I tell them when I do not feel like talking about something.

From: sirlaughsalot
Evolution is a matter of opinion, i would prefer you would not bring that up. Intelligent beings (such as ourselves) have difference of opinions, that is why we will never get along and why we will never have a 1 world government (unless they follow the antichrist, i believe it is a tool of the antichrist, but that is a different discussion)…

amercia trained the taleban to fight the russains :( whoops

america sold iraq weapons :(

aemrica sells israel weapons :(

sorry for double post please detle this post thanks!

More people need to do year 12 history.

Tbh, I dont support Israel. However i dont condemn them. If hamas would stop fireing rockets we wouldnt have what we have now right? Well we may have, but atleast israel wouldnt have a leg to stand on.

As in, israel now has the excuse that hamas has been firing rockets for years now. So they arent going to stop till they destroy hamas or there is a ceasefire with serious restrictions. They more then likely would have attacked palestine regardless, But they wouldnt have a leg to stand on excuse wise.

i am sure after this pointless war there will be MORE fighters wanting to fight isreal

From: Capricorn

N C D S:

I dislike a lot of people too, but I do not believe I should start a fight with them. Fighting, no communication happens. When friends see their friends fighting, they want to protect them. Soon you have a bigger fight that is just going to escalate. Besides, if you fight the world your standard of living will go down. I highly doubt you would want that.

Mt standard of living is down, I have my friends and my close family(AKA My Dad). I would do anything for them because I know they have my back no matter what. In most cases I do not start fight but I defend my friends and it gets out of hand. When you say "Fighting, no communication happens" I disagree. I would call that Body Language. If I intentionaly got in a fight with someone, they would get my message.

From: N C D S
Mt standard of living is down, I have my friends and my close family(AKA My Dad). I would do anything for them because I know they have my back no matter what. In most cases I do not start fight but I defend my friends and it gets out of hand. When you say "Fighting, no communication happens" I disagree. I would call that Body Language. If I intentionaly got in a fight with someone, they would get my message.

Your standard of living may be down, but that does not make it bad.

From: Capricorn
Your standard of living may be down, but that does not make it bad.

This is true, I do not consider myself to have a bad life at all. The rest is just personal feelings I suppose.

Capricorn, my friends and I argue about contraversial topics all the time aswell, yet I have never had a physically violent fight. Fighting with words is more intellectual and gives you a wider thinking bracket.

I think everybody has original sin, not a holy thing, by the way, I mean like orginal evil, everyone inside is evil, its just some people live their life without exercising it. Anne Frank believed that people were still good, even after what the German's were doing to the Jewish people, but I disagree. Every person is evil.

What the hell is up with those pictures? How the HELL do they stop the war? What, American people are gunna stop paying their Taxes until the war ends?
I hardly doubt it. Those pictures won't stop the Americans selling weapons to Israel. They get too much money off it.



Fuck the human race, they are parasites. Taking from the Earth and never giving back, ever. Greenpeace people, etc are still parasites. The human race was doomed forever, always has been. Human Greed is the root of all problems, and it cannot be removed.

From: sirlaughsalot
I think its funny that those are pics of the Isreal conflict, but they say those are america's tax dollars >_> people just like to blame america for everything dont they?

indirectly, without American support…there would be no Israel

1) and yes, I agree with you 100% that Americans get blamed too much…