SRL Archive - Reflection Discussion

Mordaut random


almost

2009-01-12 19:09:02

Edit: \/ Not anymore.
First off, I have a character stuck in the random right now.
If you need it tell me, but only if I can get some sort of confirmation that you are a trusted person, because it isn't on one of my nooby accounts.
Once I'm done with what I need to do in the random you can do what you need to do, but I will need it back today.

For right now I'm remaking my method of solving mordaut but using reflection.
It makes guesses at the questions and after a couple wrong guesses it teleports you out of the random.
Then it does the free telly to lumbridge and banks and gets out the runes to teleport back to wherever you were.
A wee bit suspicious, yes.
But logging out as soon as mordaut appears is extremely suspicious.
I wouldn't doubt that jagex flags accounts that do this.
And I'm sure you could pass off as being an 8 year old that has no idea what is going on just clicking stuff.
I made this using color, but it wasn't 100% accurate because of all the stuff you have to do.
Reflection should be at least 95% accurate.
I'll post it here when I'm done.
Should be just temporary, I know some people are working on a solver.

Edit:
Guesser is done.
Took about 20 minutes to make and test.
The teleporting back part will come out with my guild miner though.
But for right now I would recommend using this still.
It will more than likely still log you out, but actually have an attempt at solving it, and it looks "non auto-y"
function InMordaut: boolean;
begin
Result:= ValidNPCID(6117);
end;





procedure GuessMordaut;
var
x, y, i, Guesses: integer;
begin
if not (InMordaut) then
Exit;
WriteLn('Found Mordaut random!');
repeat
Inc(Guesses);
if not (InMordaut) then
Exit;
repeat
Inc(i);
Mouse(261, 454, 20, 2, true);
Wait(2000 + Random(800));
until((GetColor(238, 458) = 6321792) or (i > 10));
i:= 0;
Wait(5000 + Random(5000));
if (SimilarColors(GetColor(366, 44), 4675911, 20)) then
begin
case Random(4) of
0: Mouse(103, 249, 5, 5, true);
1: Mouse(201, 252, 5, 5, true);
2: Mouse(297, 251, 5, 5, true);
3: Mouse(384, 248, 5, 5, true);
end;
end else
begin
for i:= 0 to 2 do
begin
case Random(5) of
0: x:= 50;
1: x:= 116;
2: x:= 184;
3: x:= 257;
4: x:= 323;
end;
case i of
0: y:= 45;
1: y:= 138;
2: y:= 228;
end;
Mouse(x, y, 30, 50, true);
Wait(1000 + Random(3000));
end;
Wait(500 + Random(500));
Mouse(424, 263, 5, 5, true);
end;
Wait(3000 + Random(1000));
until((not InMordaut) or (Guesses > 10));
end;

ZaSz

2009-01-12 19:34:47

If u still have it there, i wanna try my things. (i been here for a couple of years now, working on mems, I tell peeps if they leave pass's in scrips. PM me.

noidea

2009-01-12 19:39:02

mnafromczech was making a colour mordaut solver. PM him..?

almost

2009-01-12 19:52:35

Wow he's doing it with color?
I thought it was reflection.
I'll pm him or nauman because I'd like to see how they are doing it.
I have tried loads of different ways with color.

ian.

2009-01-13 01:58:40

I had some ideas that could be used for solving unsolvables.. but I don't know how to do it

or if it would work..

but.. if it could get the text for what you have to find, couldn't you look at the outline of the object?

(not sure what I'm really saying.. but.. here goes getting flamed at :o)

for example, if it's trying to find a helmet, there would be certain lines of one color, lighter or darker, depending on how people want to do it..

I got the idea from almost's 4d cube.. spinning it around holding down the i o and p keys.. similar movement to mordaut from what I remember.

this probably seems like spam cuz I don't even know what I'm saying, but.. certain slopes and colors and angles should at least allow you to find the shape.. it would just mean doing this A LOT and adding more stuff to anti randoms..

well..

hope this helps with SOMETHING :p

almost

2009-01-13 16:51:37

I don't think you'll get flamed as long as you're trying to help.
The main problem with mordaut I found was they did a good job of making a lot of the items almost identical.
There is no color to them either.
If you take the size of the objects in pixels, you can come up with the same results for different objects.
The same goes for radius from the center of the object.
I don't see a possible way to get the answer right 100%.

Baked0420

2009-01-13 17:38:21

are there ID's for each object that you're supposed to find? you think it could be possible to get it 100% right with reflection?

senrath

2009-01-13 17:50:26

From: Baked0420
are there ID's for each object that you're supposed to find? you think it could be possible to get it 100% right with reflection?


As far as I know, all the item ID's are identical. So, no.

almost

2009-01-13 18:47:56

It can be solved with reflection (from what I've heard)
We just need the right hooks to do it.
Speaking of hooks… When are the updated ones coming out?
My scripts are all broken right now.

Baked0420

2009-01-13 19:10:27

that sucks, so I guess this random IS pretty much impossible. Does any other site have a solver for this yet?

EDIT: I was on this thread for a while before posting, so this is possible with reflection? that'd be sick if this could get solved, even if you would have to include reflection.

noidea

2009-01-13 19:24:04

Yea, the hooks are updated.

almost

2009-01-13 20:19:49

Hooks updated? sweet.

Edit:
The hooks aren't working for me still.
I had it WriteLn my tile position (While standing still) once every second and this is what I got
33554889, 33554430
33554899, 33554430
33554909, 33554430
33554918, 33554430
33554927, 33554430
33554936, 33554430
33554939, 33554430
33554944, 33554430
33554950, 33554430
33554957, 33554430


Edit2:
Updated again and now my script is working fine.

Yup RSBot supposedly has a solver.
Haven't used RSBot before though so don't hold me to that.

I do believe it can be done with color, but the approach will have to be something far from anything I have ever thought of.
Everything is possible.
100% accurate, maybe not, but still.

Method

2009-01-14 00:02:24

From: almost
Hooks updated? sweet.

Edit:
The hooks aren't working for me still.
I had it WriteLn my tile position (While standing still) once every second and this is what I got


Edit2:
Updated again and now my script is working fine.

Yup RSBot supposedly has a solver.
Haven't used RSBot before though so don't hold me to that.

I do believe it can be done with color, but the approach will have to be something far from anything I have ever thought of.
Everything is possible.
100% accurate, maybe not, but still.


RSBot doesn't have a solver. The Mordaut antirandom they have simply makes a beep to let the user know the account has the random, then logs out 60 seconds later.

Naum

2009-01-14 11:32:46

As for mine and manfromczech solver - We can't continue as we dont have many accounts plus we have scape rune and mime going aswell.

We're stuck at the box detection part as the objects change position, but as soon I can make an alg. for that we should be fine :).

GL btw.

Iroki

2009-01-14 13:05:54

I only need time to end mordaut solver (lots of time ), i have shool , i must learn (a lot) and now i'm ending mime solver ( dll part), I yesterday updated PetePlugin.dll I'm working guys :)

almost

2009-01-14 18:26:51

Kinda strange, I was reading something on the RSBot forums and someone was talking about something being messed up with the mordaut solver.
Eh probly a noob.

Do you guys still need accounts in scaperune?
Just got one and I left him in there.

ian.

2009-01-14 20:11:13

almost, still need this tested?

I have an acc in it..

Iroki

2009-01-15 01:42:43

From: 99_
almost, still need this tested?

I have an acc in it..


pm Nauman with details :)

ian.

2009-01-15 01:44:02

kayyy.. I can send to you also.. I gave it to almost already :p

hope it helps ^^

almost

2009-01-15 22:22:43

Oh woops I wish I knew someone wanted an account in mordaut because I went ahead and solved it on 99_'s account.
(The guesser worked btw)

ian.

2009-01-15 23:02:37

:p it's all good..

I'll try to get more accs in mordaut :D

Nava2

2009-01-17 12:48:48

Best bet to solve it, in the SettingsArray like the box.

No one has looked at that?

almost

2009-01-17 13:26:11

Ya really, I'm pretty sure it could be solved similar to how boxes are solved.
The vars for the right answer have to be SOMEWHERE in the client.

ZaSz

2009-01-17 15:07:04

Hey the next time u get a mordaut, Could someone pm me the details, please. I wanna take a whack at creating a solver.

marpis

2009-01-21 14:12:07

Guessing mordaut right (assuming you get 2x "what comes next" and 1x Card-picking-thing) is pretty damn impossible. infact, 0,000137% :)
Maths:
[PHP]
There are 15 cards. Chance to get all 3 right is
(3/15)*(2/14)*(1/13)

Chance to get the next one in pattern is (1/4) in each question.

Follows:
(3/15)*(2/14)*(1/13)*(1/4)*(1/4)
= 1,373 E-4
[/PHP]

EDIT: Uff, didnt notice the point in this guessing thing… -.-'

Iroki

2009-01-21 14:40:32

There are 20 "What comes next?" questions and i have solution how to solve eah of them :)

Shuttleu

2009-01-21 15:47:37

ibot has a solver im sure of it

~shut

almost

2009-01-21 16:54:50

Guessing mordaut right (assuming you get 2x "what comes next" and 1x Card-picking-thing) is pretty damn impossible. infact, 0,000137%

True, but I think you have missed the point.
Getting mordaut usually means you can't use that player anymore.
My script has gotten it a few times in the past week and kept on running.
It has never actually guessed it right though.

Edit:
Just saw your edit, so I guess you understand.

ibot has a solver im sure of it

I knew someone did.
I doubt it is really that hard.

There are 20 "What comes next?" questions and i have solution how to solve eah of them

Manfromczech are you really solving this with color?
And might I ask what your approach is on solving it?
If you're still trying I'll send you an account next time I get one.

Method

2009-01-21 22:03:27

From: Shuttleu
ibot has a solver im sure of it

~shut


I really doubt that, but if you can find it, I'll be a believer.

lordsaturn

2009-01-21 22:12:55

IBot does NOT have a solver. They're in the same bind that we are.

Iroki

2009-01-22 02:02:58

From: almost


Manfromczech are you really solving this with color?
And might I ask what your approach is on solving it?
If you're still trying I'll send you an account next time I get one.


Yes, I'm really solving mordaut with color, it can takes several days to end my solver but when i have free time i'm working on solver :)

Naum

2009-01-22 03:09:00

Its gotten much better, all the scar work is done and is working, Plugin work is 40% (something) done :)

almost

2009-01-30 22:00:25

I've got bad news if anyone else out there is trying to solve Mordaut with reflection.
The settings array doesn't have any changes to it with different questions.
Meaning the settings array sadly won't help.
I was almost for sure it would be the way to solve it.
Also using any kind of interface functions, like getting model IDs, won't help either.
The IDs and types and all that stay constant and in the same order no matter what order they appear as on your screen.
The same goes for the sandwich lady interface.