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Ok, I know everyone including myself is sick of seeing all the new registered user posting 3 different times a day about how to become a jr. member. I have seen plenty of TUT's about it to the point where its now hard to not see them. In my opinion, if it is possible(im near positive that it is) then everytime a new user registers, instead of being re-directed to the forums they should be re-directed to a Forum usage TUT, and a Q&A thread or something. Hopefully that would, if nothing else, decrease the number of these pointless annoiying posts.
What are your thought?

MoparIsTheBest has a quiz before you can post - and i think it's a great idea

If SRL made a quiz, only relevant to setting up scar, before they were able to post, the forums would be much cleaner

i defs agree with this
Sign Up –> Login –> Help Threads –> Quiz –> Forum Entry

From: benjaa
MoparIsTheBest has a quiz before you can post - and i think it's a great idea

If SRL made a quiz, only relevant to setting up scar, before they were able to post, the forums would be much cleaner

i defs agree with this
Sign Up –> Login –> Help Threads –> Quiz –> Forum Entry

Yeah that would be even better that way you can guarantee that they read it.

doom9 has a pretty good system where new sign ins have to wait a week before they can post. I think that would keep a lot of the rif raf out.

A quiz is a good idea as well as most people wont read anything even if it is right in front of them.

a week is a bit long though, to just post..
but it should be harder to obtain Junior Membership

From: benjaa

… it should be harder to obtain Junior Membership

I agree 100%

yes they should and there should be like i timer on the page depending on how long the tut is the longer the time before they are directed to the forums.
makeing them read it :)

From: Scaper
yes they should and there should be like i timer on the page depending on how long the tut is the longer the time before they are directed to the forums.
makeing them read it :)

That wont make them read it. A quiz before posting will. Perhaps we could even require a 100% on all ten questions and then just issue the ten most common noob questions as the quiz. That way they will be forced to find their own answers.

yeah I like these ideas alot, its basically an Entry Exam that is the equivalent to an open book test. Sounds good to mee.

Perhaps if an Admin would take a look at this…:rolleyes:

Definatly not a quiz about SCAR, seeing there are people posting errors about rsbot …

I made a thread kinda about this..

well.. not really.. but yeah..

I can't go to the forums page now that I'm a junior member, so I have to search.. idk if this is an error or if they set it up like this now.. but.. I think there are way too many spammers..

and it is WAY to easy to get junior members :\

you should have to make a script that is decent before you can be junior :D

1. Signup
2. Forced Tut (~5 Minutes)
3. Quiz (Must get > 75%)
4. Script Example (Must show basic knowledge, must not use other people's procedures)
5. ???
6. PROFIT!

:) Just my opinion. Would cut down LARGELY on the spam/useless posts.

From: TViYH
1. Signup
2. Forced Tut (~5 Minutes)
3. Quiz (Must get > 75%)
4. Script Example (Must show basic knowledge, must not use other people's procedures)
5. ???
6. PROFIT!

:) Just my opinion. Would cut down LARGELY on the spam/useless posts.

I like that, but Script Example may be pushing it a little just to get Registered User and be able to post. Although! I DO think that you should have to show knowledge of scripting in order to become jr. members.

From: TViYH
1. Signup
2. Forced Tut (~5 Minutes)
3. Quiz (Must get > 75%)
4. Script Example (Must show basic knowledge, must not use other people's procedures)
5. ???
6. PROFIT!

:) Just my opinion. Would cut down LARGELY on the spam/useless posts.

1. Yes
2. Maybe, more yes
3. Yes but require 100% like mopars
4. No
5. Keep the 10 post & 7 day jr member requirement
6. Sure…

So, Hobbit, will you do it?

I will make a discussion with other admins

From: Hobbit
I will make a discussion with other admins

and that is all we can really ask.

Thank you :)

I agree. No scripting capabilities needed, but the basics please.

1. How to setup scar
2. How to setup srl using the svn
3. How to use Search
4. When to post a question

Etc.

Well I too may be a new member, but I think its pretty obvious that you should read the board rules, as well as any info that could affect your posting. Since I have joined, I have seen many topics from long ago (6months+) being bumped up by new members just to get their post count up, and some users just posting "yeah good script" or "thankyou for script" which is really pointless. I like my responses to be helpful to the scripter, like pointing out some errors, after I have tried to update my files, and test out different ways to solve the problem myself.

That's another thing, people generally just post their problems without looking at what THEY did wrong. It is always the scripter's fault that the script isn't working, when they probably did something wrong. If the script is only not working for you then obviously its your own fault for not following directions.

Anyways, I still am technically new here on these forums, but I have been around other forums for quite some time, so I do know how people are when it comes to rules, and they usually never read them. I would even suggest a randomly generated quiz for the rules just so the newer users have to have read at least some part of the rules and know a what they are talking about, and what the forums accepts and disallows. Since in a way, they are just trying to get their 10 posts and become a junior member get the better scripts, and then never post again.

Leastwise make some sort of general knowledge quiz for account applications so people just don't go spamming the boards.

From: TViYH
1. How to setup scar
2. How to setup srl using the svn
3. How to use Search
4. When to post a question

Etc.

5. HOW TO USE THE EDIT BUTTON

Definately need to include that

I suggest that there is some sort of form with the questions. The user can explore the whole forums while they still do not have privileges to post. That way they are forced to use the search button (or at least search) to find the answers.

From: Aser
I suggest that there is some sort of form with the questions. The user can explore the whole forums while they still do not have privileges to post. That way they are forced to use the search button (or at least search) to find the answers.

that wouldn't help the problem of leeching D:

maybe users with < a weeks longevity and, <a certain amount of posts has to answer a question before posting>? then they'd learn and start doing it even if it takes time.

From: SandoS
maybe users with < a weeks longevity and, <a certain amount of posts has to answer a question before posting>? then they'd learn and start doing it even if it takes time.

Not bad, but what sort of question would be required to answer?… if there would be one… who would set the standard?…

Personally I think the post count should be 20…. and maybe two weeks time… Also when they sign up, have a 'thing' that they have to read stating the use of this community and that it is used for knowledge and wisdom get.

EDIT: N C D S posted in the same minute I did…. (''')(^¿^)(''')

From: SandoS
maybe users with < a weeks longevity and, <a certain amount of posts has to answer a question before posting>? then they'd learn and start doing it even if it takes time.

That would work but it seems like it could be taken of quicker and easier with just a quick test before they are aloud to view forums after signing up.

Lots of good ideas, but I don't think that there should be a forced tutorial on how to script. Yes on the boards, rules, how to setup scar etc., but nothing on scripting, because people can still contribute, without scripting.

cutem2it

If it's a quiz about SCAR, what about the people who come here not knowing anything, to learn about using it?

From: tezlin
If it's a quiz about SCAR, what about the people who come here not knowing anything, to learn about using it?

It wouldnt be a quiz about how to script it, just how to set it up and run it. Also there would be a reading that goes along with it so you could easily find all the answers there.



Actually even better idea I just thought of:
Make another Rank even lower then Registered User where you can ONLY access the TUT section. That way people have to search for themselves to find the answers for the test. This way they can become familiar with that 'Search' button before they even access the actual forums.

Oh, I see. That sounds great. :)
I voted yes anyway, I just thought it would've been much harder than it should've been.

From: tezlin
Oh, I see. That sounds great. :)
I voted yes anyway, I just thought it would've been much harder than it should've been.

Nope, We still want people to Register and Enjoy these forums, just cut down on some of the useless posts and leeching.

From: N C D S

Actually even better idea I just thought of:
Make another Rank even lower then Registered User where you can ONLY access the TUT section. That way people have to search for themselves to find the answers for the test. This way they can become familiar with that 'Search' button before they even access the actual forums.

That's what I was trying to say but I guess that won't work.

From: 99_
that wouldn't help the problem of leeching D:

I guess so, so that they know the rules etc

From: Aser
That's what I was trying to say but I guess that won't work.

I agree that it wont solve it 100% Nothing reasonable ever will, but I do believe that it will highly cut down the problem.

From: N C D S
I agree that it wont solve it 100% Nothing reasonable ever will, but I do believe that it will highly cut down the problem.

I really don't care about leechers so much because they go un-noticed. I would rather have the spam and no-searching-questions be eliminated that leechers. I don't have to wade through endless posts of worthlessness because of leechers , only becasue of spammers.

From: Aser
I really don't care about leechers so much because they go un-noticed. I would rather have the spam and no-searching-questions be eliminated that leechers. I don't have to wade through endless posts of worthlessness because of leechers , only becasue of spammers.

That is a strong point.

spammers = leechers tbh..

they spam so they can get more scripts..

From: 99_
spammers = leechers tbh..

they spam so they can get more scripts..

This is also true for the most part, but if nothing else, this will cut down the people that mean well having to ask annoying repetitive questions.

From: Aser
I really don't care about leechers so much because they go un-noticed. I would rather have the spam and no-searching-questions be eliminated that leechers. I don't have to wade through endless posts of worthlessness because of leechers , only becasue of spammers.

But leechers cause scripters like me because I never get progress reports. How am I supposed to script if I can't improve?

From: TViYH
But leechers cause scripters like me because I never get progress reports. How am I supposed to script if I can't improve?

Would you rather have a thread with 500 posts that mostly comprised of "Thanks";"Will try later" ; "Looks nice" ; "Doesn't work" ect…

,or one that had very few posts but the ones that were there were good posts? I would rather have the latter. There will always be some people that contribute. If all of the spam was cut out, it would be easier to find the contributive posts.

I'd rather have neither.

Don't compliment how well the script was written, don't say thanks or you will try it later.

Post progress reports. That's all I need. SPAM is bad. Leeching is bad.


Spam:
Waste of space
Annoying to see
Bad habit
Bad for mods

Leeching:
Waste of space
Annoying to not get progress reports
Bad habit
Bad for scripters

Great ideas N C D S, and others. I do really like the forced quiz thing, make a disclaimer on top of the tut…YOU WILL BE QUIZZED OVER THE MATERIAL

From: Brain
Great ideas N C D S, and others. I do really like the forced quiz thing, make a disclaimer on top of the tut…YOU WILL BE QUIZZED OVER THE MATERIAL

Thank you :)
Havent seen you in a while, where have you been?

From: TViYH
1. How to setup scar
2. How to setup srl using the svn
3. How to use Search
4. When to post a question

Etc.

@ my other post thats what they should be made to read and a pop up promts them before they go anyfurther about the quiz and they need to read the rules like what you have posted in my quote then there is no failing

From: TViYH
1. How to setup scar
2. How to setup srl using the svn
3. How to use Search
4. When to post a question

Etc.

i think they should redirect you to a page that teaches you how to use scar and scripts

…so, like I just said?

From: psphaxisfun
i think they should redirect you to a page that teaches you how to use scar and scripts

From: TViYH
…so, like I just said?

…or like this whole thread has been saying lol

From: N C D S
Thank you :)
Havent seen you in a while, where have you been?

wow I am flattered!
Someone noticed I was missing… :) THANKS!

I was home for Christmas break (home from college). I don't have a really stable internet connection there (sometimes I can "borrow" from the neighbors (apartment building))

But I am back till the end of semester.

ahhh gotcha.

Well it is surely nice to have you back :)

From: TViYH
I'd rather have neither.

Would you rather have leeching or spam? They will always be around. Spam is easier to stop than leeching and is more annoying. You would rather have neither?

From: Aser
Would you rather have a thread with 500 posts that mostly comprised of "Thanks";"Will try later" ; "Looks nice" ; "Doesn't work" ect…

,or [H]one that had very few posts but the ones that were there were good posts?[/H] I would rather have the latter. There will always be some people that contribute. If all of the spam was cut out, it would be easier to find the contributive posts.

So basically you are saying that you would not like any posts at all. This defeats the point of you complaining about leechers not helping you script. You said you wanted feedback, but then you said you wanted neither when one of the 'neither' was good posts (feedback/helpful replies is what I consider good posts). Could you clear this up for me?

Good posts don't help scripters.

Progress reports do.

From: TViYH
Good posts don't help scripters.

Progress reports do.

Really, i profer a good post on bug etc, i dont really mind about posting progress reports as most of my scripts save online anyway..

HOW TO USE THE EDIT BUTTON!

my old tut :rolleyes:



I dont mind progress reports. I like to get posts containing errors or things that people would like to see in my scripts. I would take 20 useful posts on errors or bugs than 20 on progress reports (my reports save online so :D)

nah, youve seen members coming back after months only to leach and spam, a quiz when they sign up wouldn't cut it imo

I am new to this community, have made no other posts so far, and am thoroughly confused. If someone could pm me, i would appreciate it much.

From: duelman482
I am new to this community, have made no other posts so far, and am thoroughly confused. If someone could pm me, i would appreciate it much.

That is the prime example of this thread…all I have to say

But I agree, some sort of quiz that you have to take before posting…And you can opt out on taking it and still view the site, but if you go to post then bam, it pops up. Also, if they were to opt out and never posted and got to Jr. Mem status, they would have to take it before viewing Jr. Mem scripts. Just my little two cents.

~Camo

Meh..They shouldn't be able to opt out of it.

From: TViYH
Meh..They shouldn't be able to opt out of it.

by opt out he means opt out of posting not the quiz, read it again ;)

Hmm…. i think it would be a good idea to instead of sending them to a tut redirect them to the introduction section and make them post a intro thread so atleas thtey do something.

And make a bot for the forum and it posts in the new intro threads and it tells you all the rules and general info….. (i've seen this on another forum)

From: Jmanx
Hmm…. i think it would be a good idea to instead of sending them to a tut redirect them to the introduction section and make them post a intro thread so atleas thtey do something.

And make a bot for the forum and it posts in the new intro threads and it tells you all the rules and general info….. (i've seen this on another forum)

So, you're wanting them to do what they are already required to do?

Telling them the rules won't change anything. They need to know something before they can post. They need to be tested, making sure they aren't coming for a swiftkick and gone.

I think that this is a great idea!

I don't know if theres a way to do it on vBulletin, but maybe there could be a way for them to do a quiz or something similar and the Admin/Mods could see if they should come or not.

The only problem with that is there'd have to be a lot of time spent looking at peoples answers.

From: TViYH

So, you're wanting them to do what they are already required to do?

Telling them the rules won't change anything. They need to know something before they can post. They need to be tested, making sure they aren't coming for a swiftkick and gone.

they aren't required to post anything?

The only problem with that is there'd have to be a lot of time spent looking at peoples answers.

just have a form with multiple choice
each one correct, add a percentage

eg, if it has 10 questions, 8 must be correct (80%)

From: benjaa
just have a form with multiple choice
each one correct, add a percentage

eg, if it has 10 questions, 8 must be correct (80%)

Yeah, quite a good idea.

I think this should seriously be taken into consideration, just might take a bit of development to make the quiz.

I think that you can't make 2 accounts on the same IP within a week or something, otherwise people will just make another one and try again.

It shouldn't be a test that if you fail you get booted. You should just have to wait for 30 mins before you take it again. The questions could be randomized from a database to prevent people from just memorizing the questions.

From: SandoS
they aren't required to post anything?

They're required to post 10 posts before they get junior member.