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huge internet explorer virus, switc to firefox now! READ.


Magiic

2008-12-16 15:52:18

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/technology/microsoft/3793365/Internet-Explorer-security-alert-Microsoft-says-all-users-at-risk.html shows how much ie does suck eh? so yeah id advise you to start using firefox/google chrome, just not ie :p

StrikerX

2008-12-16 16:14:11

lol i never knew microsoft failed this bad.

I always used FireFox =]

senrath

2008-12-16 18:01:38

Read the last part of that article. It is completely accurate (though I use ff, myself).

From: Graham Cluley
But he added that switching browsers may be an over-reaction. “It’s certainly a fix and gets around this problem, but Firefox, Google Chrome and other browsers all have their own security issues.”

A G E N T

2008-12-16 20:59:44

From: senrath
Read the last part of that article. It is completely accurate (though I use ff, myself).

The main difference between Opera/IE/Chrome and Firefox in this respect is that the former are all closed source and run by for-profit companies. When a bug rolls around, you have to wait until the next major version for their devs to get around to a whole whack of fixes.
Firefox is a community project, thus most flaws are reported, patched, and included in a minor version/nightly build within a few days.

senrath

2008-12-16 21:01:50

From: A G E N T
The main difference between Opera/IE/Chrome and Firefox in this respect is that the former are all closed source and run by for-profit companies. When a bug rolls around, you have to wait until the next major version for their devs to get around to a whole whack of fixes.
Firefox is a community project, thus most flaws are reported, patched, and included in a minor version/nightly build within a few days.


And yet plenty of vulnerabilities still take months to get fixed, if that.

Magiic

2008-12-17 11:06:01

still, it's better to keep your comp in a stable state :p

GoF

2008-12-18 11:48:20

From: senrath
Read the last part of that article. It is completely accurate (though I use ff, myself).


I'd rather download and install firefox than live in a constant fear of getting a trojan or some crap off a site just by visiting it.

“Problems like this are found all the time but Microsoft always has a fix. What’s new about this situation is that there is no fix."

That wouldn't really make me feel any better about the situation. IE sucks anyway, only noobs that don't know about the better options use it.

n3ss3s

2008-12-18 12:16:15

Don't blame the virus, your life started going wrong from the moment you bought a Windows…

Aser

2008-12-18 12:26:10

Wasn't there already a thread about this? Just wondering because this is pretty old news. I heard about it about a week ago.

senrath

2008-12-18 12:29:03

From: Aser
Wasn't there already a thread about this?


Different virus.

And believe it or not, Firefox isn't that better off than IE. It's just that IE's problems are more widely publicized and visible.

Magiic

2008-12-18 13:34:36

was there an update earlier that fixed it? i got an update :p

n3ss3s

2008-12-18 14:14:49


And believe it or not, Firefox isn't that better off than IE. It's just that IE's problems are more widely publicized and visible.


Wouldn't say so, I think hackers like to do viruses and stuff for more… "Commercial things", e.g people who are new with computers, or just basic users, use internet explorer and as they are so new, they also get easily fooled.

senrath

2008-12-18 14:33:34

From: n3ss3s
Wouldn't say so, I think hackers like to do viruses and stuff for more… "Commercial things", e.g people who are new with computers, or just basic users, use internet explorer and as they are so new, they also get easily fooled.


I'm just saying that in terms of security flaws, both IE and Firefox have their fair share.

TViYH

2008-12-18 22:01:40

It's all LIES!

Get Opera and increase your penis size by 72" :D

Jason2gs

2008-12-18 22:10:37

Commendable that they tell everyone, IMO.

But anyways.

The websites corrupted by the hackers are mostly Chinese, and have been programmed to steal passwords for computer games which can be sold for money on the black market.


Muahaha! Mixster would love that :)

Widget

2008-12-18 22:30:46

Heh, this was on Warez-BB too, but pretty much everyone there used Firefox anyway. Kinda weird for it to steal game accounts though.

Also, Firefox can't be crashed by sites like this one (warning: crashes IE just like I said, but people never read the whole sentance..).

Also, there's no real point to developing exploits for open-source browsers, someone'll just figure out what it's doing and fix it. Then Firefox goes "Onoes! You can has security update!" and then everyone has the security update when they bother to restart it.

Lots of people I know have the Windows automatic updates turned off because they restart your computer when you go afk for 5 minutes :(

Bobarkinator

2008-12-18 22:51:59

Things like this wouldn't happen if Microsoft didn't build IE so deep into their OS. For instance, Macs Safari is a separate application, and most Linux distro's come with firefox installed but not embedded into the OS. What Microsoft did just invited hackers to exploit the ever present vulnerabilities that Microsoft left.

enidraj

2008-12-19 01:46:20

i reccomend switching to google chrome for those ie users (Y)

dre_bro11

2008-12-19 04:28:26

Well, I havn't recieved any yet, probably got Nortan Internet Security to thank

TViYH

2008-12-19 07:22:37

DO N0T SWITCH TO GOOGLE CHROME IF YOU AUTO.

It doesn't work like IE and/or Firefox.

Trust me on this, I know.

mixster

2008-12-19 09:21:50

From: Jason2gs
The websites corrupted by the hackers are mostly Chinese, and have been programmed to steal passwords for computer games which can be sold for money on the black market.

Muahaha! Mixster would love that :)


Communism just own MS's capitalist asses. That is why MS only became really massive after the "fall" of the USSR, otherwise they would have to repair security flaws every other day (as USSR workers have every other day off).

painless150

2008-12-19 09:29:41

Because You Have Insoficiant posts To Download.

Maniak

2008-12-19 12:55:07

:O
I never really liked I.E
I use google chrome, a lot of people hate it, but i like its simplicity

TViYH

2008-12-19 12:56:11

To anyone who uses Google Chrome:

Have fun autoing. It's hell.

Switch to Fx or Opera, and increase your penis size.

Torrent of Flame

2008-12-19 13:01:59

I hate FF to be honest. I had it for like 1 week, and went back to IE 8.0, I cant stand FF, you cant even download things by clicking 'Run' you have to save it and it sucks well bad, when you DL shit as much as I do.

I just stick with IE.

EDIT: 1k! XD

TViYH

2008-12-19 13:03:48

Torrent of Flame: Download it, save it, then go to the Tools -> Downloads and run it.

Easy as that.

IE == vulnerabilities.

Maniak

2008-12-19 13:05:19

I only use Chrome as a browser, FF for autoing :D

Torrent of Flame

2008-12-19 13:18:20

Its too annoying TViYH.

TViYH

2008-12-19 13:30:47

…Seriously?

Even when Fx is 10x the speed of IE?

Opera is the best.

Pwnt by Pwnt

2008-12-19 13:58:50

yeah.. I tried autoing with Chrome and it's a poopy pants time :\ but at least I know how to add 3 lines of coding so I can use smart.. o.o

koo29

2008-12-19 16:42:22

I couldnt care less. My bid defender powns those viruses:D

Magiic

2008-12-19 17:01:31

it's not viruses, it literally takes control through the webpage.

TViYH

2008-12-19 18:51:33

From: koo29
I couldnt care less. My bid defender powns those viruses:D


Your "bid defender" is one of the worst anti-viruses available.

bullzeye95

2008-12-19 19:20:29

From: dre_bro11
Well, I havn't recieved any yet, probably got Nortan Internet Security to thank


Please tell me that was sarcasm?

TViYH

2008-12-19 19:40:49

From: bullzeye95
Please tell me that was sarcasm?



Seriously ^.^

Norton == ftl.

It's more of a virus than the viruses it protects you from.

Magiic

2008-12-19 20:04:17

i use mcafee ;)

noidea

2008-12-19 20:11:05

From: SandoS
i use mcafee ;)


Same.


TViYH, what happens when you auto with CHrome?

senrath

2008-12-19 20:13:23

From: SandoS
i use mcafee ;)


Eh, that's not that great either. AVG is the way to go. Even the free version is more or less better than McAfee.

bullzeye95

2008-12-19 20:21:42

I use nothing, and I never get any viruses…

Magiic

2008-12-19 20:22:34

not really, not the detection rates. http://images.kaspersky.com/en/draft/highest-detection.gif

senrath

2008-12-19 20:27:38

From: SandoS
not really, not the detection rates. http://images.kaspersky.com/en/draft/highest-detection.gif


Check out av-comparatives.org's newest report (read both):
http://av-comparatives.org/seiten/ergebnisse/report19.pdf
http://av-comparatives.org/seiten/ergebnisse/report20.pdf

Things are a bit different now.

Magiic

2008-12-19 20:48:42

so the more recent claims mcafee is more advanced no?

senrath

2008-12-19 21:22:35

Er, no. In the more recent one McAfee came in 15th out of 16th. However, Kapersky ranked 6th, and Norton ranked 3rd.

Widget

2008-12-19 22:01:01

From: bullzeye95
I use nothing, and I never get any viruses…

FTW.

Also, the reason Firefox forces you to save first is so your AV can check it (mainly for the ones that scan files as they get accessed). It also takes a second or so to scan it (not sure if that's its own scanner or trying to call your own scanner).

But yeah, around twice a year I download the newest Kaspersky trial and run a full scan, that keeps me clean :D

senrath

2008-12-19 22:04:11

From: Widget
t also takes a second or so to scan it (not sure if that's its own scanner or trying to call your own scanner).D


It calls whatever scanner you have installed. Or at least it tries to.

koo29

2008-12-19 22:56:50

From: TViYH
Your "bid defender" is one of the worst anti-viruses available.


Hmm, I dont think so. It is almost as good as Norton is.

[-jesus-]

2008-12-19 23:35:19

From: koo29
Hmm, I dont think so. It is almost as good as Norton is.


And Norton is complete junk! >_<

Crusadercharlie

2008-12-20 08:07:50

Epic failage, lucky that ive allways used Firefox.

Nakor

2008-12-20 08:16:23

From: TViYH
DO N0T SWITCH TO GOOGLE CHROME IF YOU AUTO.

It doesn't work like IE and/or Firefox.

Trust me on this, I know.


I agree on this. I tried and tried to get a script to work properly and followed all the guides really carefully (I'm new to SCAR) and couldn't figure out what the problem was. I just tried Firefox to load RS and everything was fine, YAY! :spot:

Harry

2008-12-20 19:05:29

From: Widget
..
Lots of people I know have the Windows automatic updates turned off because they restart your computer when you go afk for 5 minutes :(

Just change your Windows Updates settings to "Download, but let me choose when to install"; then when you can has updates, the tray icon will balloon() to you to install them. If you're busy, you can simply close it.

GoF

2008-12-21 14:29:22

There's nothing worse than IE's downloading with the retarded window popping up and on closing cancels your download.. Plus it's slow, vulnerable to everything (like 90% of people use it and most are completely un-aware of the amount of suck involved in using it, so I wonder why hackers like to target IE, of course FF being open-source may be another reason too)..

It's a well known fact that when it comes to webbrowsers IE is pretty much the mentally (and physically) retarded thing that no-one likes.. Except the people un-aware of the better options.

From: dre_bro11
Well, I havn't recieved any yet, probably got Nortan Internet Security to thank


You can thank Norton for not detecting your pornworms, and instead hogging your loads of resources and warning you about everything safe you run and ignoring any nasty things.

TViYH

2008-12-21 16:07:50

GoF, I +1 your post.

Ethan1221

2008-12-21 20:35:12

thats such a lie ive been using IE for about 4 years now and no problem!