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Why2u - 1 month ban?


Sir R. M8gic1an

2008-12-13 12:22:44

well, i would've done it myself, but i don't know how harsh we are being on bans atm.

first of all, he submitted 2 member apps with plagiarized scripts:
http://www.srl-forums.com/forum/why2u-srl-member-p512070.html
http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32579?t=35312

and his profile:
http://www.srl-forums.com/forum/member.php?u=35752

low post count, and one infraction for buying/selling. he's not doing any good to the community and seems to just want to get a higer rank for the scripts, because he shows clearly no desire to learn scar.

Are we going to punish him for plagiarism ? - he's done it twice

~RM

n3ss3s

2008-12-13 13:38:18

Are we going to punish him for plagiarism ? - he's done it twice


ORLY?

Method

2008-12-13 19:25:09

I'm all for permanently banning him, considering he's done it twice. Though I don't think that decision is left to me, plus I'm not entirely sure how the rules specifically work for plagiarizing a script.

Smartzkid

2008-12-13 22:06:31

I vote perm ban.

Sir R. M8gic1an

2008-12-14 04:50:16

added poll

~RM

Markus

2008-12-14 04:55:30

Voted one month, that should teach him the lesson

King of Knives

2008-12-14 17:43:06

low post count, and one infraction for buying/selling. he's not doing any good to the community and seems to just want to get a higer rank for the scripts, because he shows clearly no desire to learn scar.

Buying/selling = Temporary ban/infraction (Dealt with)
Doing nothing for the community = Nothing in itself
Higher rank for the scripts = leeching = Temporary ban
No desire to learn SCAR = Even more leeching = Temporary ban
Plagiarizing = Permanent ban.
Plagiarizing for the second time = Absolutely permanent ban.

I would be contradicting myself if I didn't vote for a permanent ban.

Jason2gs

2008-12-14 18:59:39

From: King of Knives
Buying/selling = Temporary ban/infraction (Dealt with)
Doing nothing for the community = Nothing in itself
Higher rank for the scripts = leeching = Temporary ban
No desire to learn SCAR = Even more leeching = Temporary ban
Plagiarizing = Permanent ban.
Plagiarizing for the second time = Absolutely permanent ban.

I would be contradicting myself if I didn't vote for a permanent ban.


I'd like to correct you there.

Under the SRL Rules & Regulations, "Plagiarism" is listed under "Specific Offences resulting in infraction."

Has that rule been redefined somewhere?

I hardly think this is our decision. If he's done something that requires a ban, the admins will ban him. It's simply our job to learn SCAR and test scripts. Nothing else.

Hobbit

2008-12-14 22:31:53

I think 2 months

One for each app

The Claw

2008-12-14 22:34:49

I think a month is enough to get the message across

Boreas

2008-12-15 00:37:31

He did it twice. There's no chance he's going to be the next Fakawi. I vote perm ban.

Wizzup?

2008-12-15 06:44:51

I say one month.

Narcle

2008-12-15 17:05:12

I voted 1 month, but I agree with Hobbit should be 2 for doing it twice.

The Claw

2008-12-16 01:10:32

We're a community not a court guys, even though he broke the rules twice whats the point in giving him double the sentence? It was a minor thing anyway which wasted a bit of time but wasn't too much of a big deal really, and he's harmless as he wasn't even smart enough to remove credits and includes from the scripts he tried to use on his app. A one month ban is more than enough punishment and will get the message across to him, any longer is unneccessary.

Narcle

2008-12-16 04:31:04

From: The Claw
We're a community not a court guys, even though he broke the rules twice whats the point in giving him double the sentence? It was a minor thing anyway which wasted a bit of time but wasn't too much of a big deal really, and he's harmless as he wasn't even smart enough to remove credits and includes from the scripts he tried to use on his app. A one month ban is more than enough punishment and will get the message across to him, any longer is unneccessary.


It was a suggestion, doesn't mean it'll happen. Only Hobbit and I have said 2 months.

The Claw

2008-12-16 05:33:42

A bit defensive there Narcle? :p

Narcle

2008-12-16 08:16:45

From: The Claw
A bit defensive there Narcle? :p


It was more of a comment, I honestly don't care.

Sir R. M8gic1an

2008-12-25 07:03:31

well, i don't see any of the admins taking any action in this, personally plagiariam is something that pisses me off a lot so i went ahead and gave him a 1 week ban (can't give more than that).

~RM

The Claw

2008-12-25 07:24:06

Oops forgot about this thread. Banned for 1 month, thats a nice chrissy present from Santa Claw :p

the scar noob

2008-12-25 08:28:52

From: The Claw
Oops forgot about this thread. Banned for 1 month, thats a nice chrissy present from Santa Claw :p


Ahaha, that's a nice one;)

RM, if Claw wouldn't have banned him, I'd also infracted him:p

-Tsn.

King of Knives

2008-12-25 11:21:52

From: The Claw
It was a minor thing anyway which wasted a bit of time but wasn't too much of a big deal really, and he's harmless as he wasn't even smart enough to remove credits and includes from the scripts he tried to use on his app. A one month ban is more than enough punishment and will get the message across to him, any longer is unneccessary.


He's not smart enough for even the simplest deception. He has plagiarized 2 scripts.

A lousy, stealing leecher. What use do we have of him? And what message do you want to get across? Will he understand it? Will he act on it? With the intellect you described, I doubt he will.

the scar noob

2008-12-25 12:09:44

From: King of Knives
He's not smart enough for even the simplest deception. He has plagiarized 2 scripts.

A lousy, stealing leecher. What use do we have of him? And what message do you want to get across? Will he understand it? Will he act on it? With the intellect you described, I doubt he will.


Ahahahah! That made me actually laugh:)

Let me try: He thought that he was the most intelligent species occupying the planet, but actually there's more inside an empty bottle of wodka (the one next to my desk) than in his head.

-Tsn.

The Claw

2008-12-25 18:39:48

From: King of Knives
He's not smart enough for even the simplest deception. He has plagiarized 2 scripts.

A lousy, stealing leecher. What use do we have of him? And what message do you want to get across? Will he understand it? Will he act on it? With the intellect you described, I doubt he will.


None, not to plagiarize, probably, probably, unlikely at best

King of Knives

2008-12-25 18:50:25

Let me see if I got you right:

What use do we have of him?
None
And what message do you want to get across? not to plagiarize
Will he understand it? probably
Will he act on it? probably, unlikely at best

Correct?

My guesses to the two latter questions will both be blank "No", but you believe the best, and that's ok.

But I see no reason to let a stupid criminal much resemblant of an orc, stay in here when we have perfectly fine substantiation to ban him permanently.

the scar noob

2008-12-25 19:08:58

From: King of Knives
Let me see if I got you right:

What use do we have of him?
None
And what message do you want to get across? not to plagiarize
Will he understand it? probably
Will he act on it? probably, unlikely at best

Correct?

My guesses to the two latter questions will both be blank "No", but you believe the best, and that's ok.

But I see no reason to let a stupid criminal much resemblant of an orc, stay in here when we have perfectly fine substantiation to ban him permanently.

If you really are the king of knives, why don't you throw with knives at him? x)

-Tsn.

The Claw

2008-12-26 05:24:49

From: King of Knives
Let me see if I got you right:

What use do we have of him?
None
And what message do you want to get across? not to plagiarize
Will he understand it? probably
Will he act on it? probably, unlikely at best

Correct?

My guesses to the two latter questions will both be blank "No", but you believe the best, and that's ok.

But I see no reason to let a stupid criminal much resemblant of an orc, stay in here when we have perfectly fine substantiation to ban him permanently.


Yep apart from the last one, remove "unlikely at best" lol. But put yourself in his shoes dude, a month is a long time to spend off a forum…more than enough for him to realise what we're trying to get across to him - not to plagiarize. But this conversation really is pointless lol, as neither of us have anything to back up whatever we're saying…its just our opinions. I guess all we can take from this conversation is that you're a pessimist, and I'm a pessimist who's been in a good mood the last couple of days :p

King of Knives

2008-12-26 11:38:40

From: the scar noob
If you really are the king of knives, why don't you throw with knives at him? x)

-Tsn.

Why don't you just throw one of your empty vodka-bottles? Judging from the recent lack of seriousity in your posts, they're still in your blood. But I'm not complaining, I like to keep stuff on the unserious level :D

@Claw: Neither of us have anything to back up with, but if you're in a good mood, you must believe I'm right. So you know what to do.

I'll throw some knives, Tsn will throw vodka-bottles and you can scratch him.

Gogo, guys.
-Knives

the scar noob

2008-12-26 14:52:23

From: King of Knives
Why don't you just throw one of your empty vodka-bottles? Judging from the recent lack of seriousity in your posts, they're still in your blood. But I'm not complaining, I like to keep stuff on the unserious level :D

@Claw: Neither of us have anything to back up with, but if you're in a good mood, you must believe I'm right. So you know what to do.

I'll throw some knives, Tsn will throw vodka-bottles and you can scratch him.

Gogo, guys.
-Knives


Hell yea!(h)
Claw, let the battle begin! If I was you, I should already start running away, crying like a little baby.

-Tsn.

The Claw

2008-12-26 20:37:29

lolwut