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Doofy was caught trying to steal accounts with account stealing scar scripts.

More can be read here http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38039

Edit

To clear things up, we are 100% sure that it was him… he has been proven guilty, the question is whether or not to ban/punish him.

He posted a SCAR script that was to steal people's passwords but he was caught before any known damage was done

Hrmmm….

A very bad thing was done, however he kinda confessed…

Maybe village clown and a disclaimer? Kinda like how a convicted sex offended has to tell people he is one…

my first post here in a LONG while, and i vote for a ban hammer, although i do give him credit for using a flavor of linux as an OS.

nothing is more welcoming then somone leaving as you enter the door…
gives it an exclusive feel.

Yes I was… However, it was not on this site, and it was an obvious trick that was geared towards noobs. I have done nothing malicious to this community. If you lose trust for me, so be it, but I've helped out here before, never doing anything bad.

Er, no, from what he posted it seemed like he didn't actually steal anything off of the accounts, just "spooked" them.

From: Ruroken
Hrmmm….

A very bad thing was done, however he kinda confessed…

Maybe village clown and a disclaimer? Kinda like how a convicted sex offended has to tell people he is one…

Yea, that would be better, like the mostly harmless thing one of the jr's had a while ago.

nvm take my vote out dont ban him.

From: R0b0t1
Er, no, from what he posted it seemed like he didn't actually steal anything off of the accounts, just "spooked" them.

Consider the fact that he went threw the trouble of creating a system to use SCAR scripts to steal accounts, just because his plan was foiled doesn't mean his intentions differed.

From: Wizzup?
What you have done is wrong. Very wrong.
But seeing you posted this here, I don't think you really deserve a ban.
It takes some guts to post it here, and it's brave that you want to protect the other guy, named Robin.

I don't have much more to say, except for this:

Don't ever do this again… :)

I agree. Not the best thing to do, but I don't think he should be banned. Also, it wasn't here, so there is no reason for him to be banned here. He intentionally did it somewhere else because he didn't want to harm this community, and then he came here and confessed to protect a member of this site. He doesn't deserve a ban.

From: richk1693
I agree. Not the best thing to do, but I don't think he should be banned. Also, it wasn't here, so there is no reason for him to be banned here. He intentionally did it somewhere else because he didn't want to harm this community, and then he came here and confessed to protect a member of this site. He doesn't deserve a ban.

He was not a member of this site, infact it was an inactive leecher just like the ones he was targeting with his account stealing script.

He just did that to save his ass… he did not do it to protect anyone, and besides we had an IP match… there were no blind assumptions…

He has no resentment for what he did as he continually trys to justify what he did as OK.


I miss the days when Fawki and RAM were around

They wouldn't just ban your ass, they'd make a public ridicule loser of the day thread where countless people would flame you…ah…good times…lucky you.

From: richk1693
I agree. Not the best thing to do, but I don't think he should be banned. Also, it wasn't here, so there is no reason for him to be banned here. He intentionally did it somewhere else because he didn't want to harm this community, and then he came here and confessed to protect a member of this site. He doesn't deserve a ban.

Thank you for understanding everything. That's what I've been trying to say.

@IceFire:

About the IP match… you matched the proxy that I used. It was basically an assumption, because anyone could use the public proxy I used.

If I had no fucking resentment then I wouldn't have told you my name and I wouldn't have come on here and posted.

From: Doofy
Thank you for understanding everything. That's what I've been trying to say.

@IceFire:

About the IP match… you matched the proxy that I used. It was basically an assumption, because anyone could use the public proxy I used.

If I had no fucking resentment then I wouldn't have told you my name and I wouldn't have come on here and posted.

You wouldn't have turned your self in unless you thought you'd get some sympathy and get let off the hook.

Well done, you may have found a way to get around the system… I would congratulate you, but you just being here at this moment should suffice.

From: IceFire908
You wouldn't have turned your self in unless you thought you'd get some sympathy and get let off the hook.

Well done, you may have found a way to get around the system… I would congratulate you, but you just being here at this moment should suffice.

Calm it down a tad, ha. Use a bit of pschology. if he wasn't going to get caught, why would he turn himself in. Put yourself in his shoes… basically your reasoning is off on that point. He doesn't feel sorry–> Had a chance to not get caught –> turns himself in. Something in that equation is wrong so its ethier he feels sorry or he couldn't have got away with it. I think we are in agreement that since he used a proxy we really couldn't ever have known for sure, so what does that leave you with.

Way I see it: No harm done, like Hey321, or anyone else who stole.
Said he was sorry and openly came out with it, not just kept it behind closed doors or whatever.
And he did it to keep another member from being banned, that takes a bit of guts, risking a members account to save a leecher's intergrity. Think pschologically, you don't just do that if your a bad person. I have had over 110 Mill stolen from me, and that guy was a bad person. Not doofy.

From: pwnaz0r
Calm it down a tad, ha. Look, as far as I can tell, use a bit of pschology. if he wasn't going to get caught, why would he turn himself in. Put yourself in his shoes… Seriously basically your reasoning is off on that point. He doesn't feel guilty –> Had a chance to not get caught –> turns himself in. Something in that equation is wrong so its ethier he feels sorry or he couldn't have got away with it. I think we are in agreement that since he used a proxy we really couldn't ever have known for sure, so what does that leave you with.

Way I see it: No harm done, like Hey321, or anyone else who stole.
Said he was sorry and openly came out with it, not just kept it behind closed doors or whatever.
And he did it to keep another member from being banned, that takes a bit of guts, risking a members account to save a leecher's intergrity. Think pschologically, you don't just do that if your a bad person. I have had over 110 Mill stolen from me, and that guy was a bad person. Not doofy.

I could not ever explain it better.

From: pwnaz0r
Calm it down a tad, ha. Look, as far as I can tell, use a bit of pschology. if he wasn't going to get caught, why would he turn himself in. Put yourself in his shoes… Seriously basically your reasoning is off on that point. He doesn't feel guilty –> Had a chance to not get caught –> turns himself in. Something in that equation is wrong so its ethier he feels sorry or he couldn't have got away with it. I think we are in agreement that since he used a proxy we really couldn't ever have known for sure, so what does that leave you with.

Way I see it: No harm done, like Hey321, or anyone else who stole.
Said he was sorry and openly came out with it, not just kept it behind closed doors or whatever.
And he did it to keep another member from being banned, that takes a bit of guts, risking a members account to save a leecher's intergrity. Think pschologically, you don't just do that if your a bad person. I have had over 110 Mill stolen from me, and that guy was a bad person. Not doofy.

The whole "risked his ass to save someones guts" is a load of crap, we're talking about someone with 5 posts and hasn't logged in since like a year ago or something (Doofy is clearly aware of this)

I believe the reason Doofy revealed who he is is because there are ways to find identity around proxies as done with Ronny.M.P

Honestly, he has not apologized to anyone at scar-scripts yet.

He turned him self in to save himself from being banned because he knew his identity would be found… lets face it all he's trying to do is save himself from being banned anything else you've been convinced to believe is a lie.

I've said all I can say, I've tried to show everyone through this charade.

If you want this scum on your forum then fine, so be it…

SRL was never what it once was clearly…

It's a real shame.

I'll be back in a few days, and if this guy is just let go then I'll guess I'll have to reconsider this forum again…

R.I.P. The Old Glorious SRL standards

Later

From: IceFire908
The whole "risked his ass to save someones guts" is a load of crap, we're talking about someone with 5 posts and hasn't logged in since like a year ago or something (Doofy is clearly aware of this)

I believe the reason Doofy revealed who he is is because there are ways to find identity around proxies as done with Ronny.M.P

Honestly, he has not apologized to anyone at scar-scripts yet.

He turned him self in to save himself from being banned because he knew his identity would be found… lets face it all he's trying to do is save himself from being banned anything else you've been convinced to believe is a lie.

I've said all I can say, I've tried to show everyone through this charade.

If you want this scum on your forum then fine, so be it…

SRL was never what it once was clearly…

It's a real shame.

I'll be back in a few days, and if this guy is just let go then I'll guess I'll have to reconsider this forum again…

R.I.P. The Old Glorious SRL standards

Later

honestly, I hate argueing with other members, because clearly this upsets you more than the rest of us. But Look

You first statement just proves me more right. Why would he risk trying to save a member who hasn't loggedin in a year?

Second of all I don't think he really cares about being banned because

1) He made a thread with the implications that if he posted it, he might get banned.

2) He isn't very active here anyway AFAIK.

Third of all, you just really jumped conclusions and said "everything is a lie", I mean, thats a bit much don't you think? You have no solid proof of your statement, and to be honest, any proof we really can have, short of a lie detector test, is using logic, which I'm pretty sure that most would be in agreement are for his case.

everyone gave that thief(hey123) a second chance why him, and he confessed before anyone got dissapointed.

so no need to ban him.

From: pwnaz0r
honestly, I hate argueing with other members, because clearly this upsets you more than the rest of us. But Look

You first statement just proves me more right. Why would he risk trying to save a member who hasn't loggedin in a year?

Second of all I don't think he really cares about being banned because

1) He made a thread with the implications that if he posted it, he might get banned.

2) He isn't very active here anyway AFAIK.

Third of all, you just really jumped conclusions and said "everything is a lie", I mean, thats a bit much don't you think? You have no solid proof of your statement, and to be honest, any proof we really can have, short of a lie detector test, is using logic, which I'm pretty sure that most would be in agreement are for his case.

The reason he posted the thread was to save him… you are over looking the fact that if he hadn't his identity would of been discovered using various other methods than IP checks as done with Ronny.M.P. but now it looks better because he turned himself in before that happened so he wouldn't be banned.

He didn't post here to keep an inactive leecher from getting in trouble because he's targeting leechers with account stealers.

You just don't seem to get it :duh:

Sigh

From: ~~Joker~~
everyone gave that thief(hey123) a second chance why him, and he confessed before anyone got dissapointed.

so no need to ban him.

Actually Hey321 was banned for several months

He wasn't just let off the hook…

BIG difference then a warning buddy…

From: IceFire908
The whole "risked his ass to save someones guts" is a load of crap, we're talking about someone with 5 posts and hasn't logged in since like a year ago or something (Doofy is clearly aware of this)

I believe the reason Doofy revealed who he is is because there are ways to find identity around proxies as done with Ronny.M.P

Honestly, he has not apologized to anyone at scar-scripts yet.

He turned him self in to save himself from being banned because he knew his identity would be found… lets face it all he's trying to do is save himself from being banned anything else you've been convinced to believe is a lie.

Edit: No. I don't think my account would have been traced. I highly doubt it. For all you guys knew I was some noob account stealer that really was no big deal. You wouldn't have gone through tons of complicated methods just to find out who I was, and you wouldn't have known I had an SRL account unless I GAVE it to you. I clearly did it out of resentment.

I've said all I can say, I've tried to show everyone through this charade.

If you want this scum on your forum then fine, so be it…

SRL was never what it once was clearly…

It's a real shame.

I'll be back in a few days, and if this guy is just let go then I'll guess I'll have to reconsider this forum again…

R.I.P. The Old Glorious SRL standards

Later

Omg there probably are ways to track me through an IP, but you obviously could not do it. I do not think I would have been found if I kept secret.

Also, how the fuck would I know about some member here that registered with a proxy, especially if he is inactive. You came up with the name, I had no idea who it was, but why should he get banned? I've been inactive but I wouldn't want to get banned… I don't think he would either.

I haven't been lieing about anything, there really is no point in lieing when I turned MYSELF in, I obviously was ready for opinions/consequences.

And now, you're basically staging a suicide threat. "Ban Doofy or I'll have to reconsider these forums…"

From: IceFire908
The reason he posted the thread was to save him… you are over looking the fact that if he hadn't his identity would of been discovered using various other methods than IP checks as done with Ronny.M.P. but now it looks better because he turned himself in before that happened so he wouldn't be banned.

He didn't post here to keep an inactive leecher from getting in trouble because he's targeting leechers with account stealers.

You just don't seem to get it :duh:

Sigh

Of course I get it. I just do not agree with it. The thing in red really doesn't make sense if you think about it… And its innocent until proven guilty, and if he gets/got away with what your saying, then that's the way of the world I guess, but your forgetting that nothing actually happened and that nothing got stolen.

Its basically like a comparison to this:

You know someone who builds a super fast car with a turbo. However a cop see's it in the garage beforehand and confronts him about it. Can he get a ticket or get in trouble? No. Why? He hasn't done anything wrong. Was he going to? maybe so, we can't know for sure. But the fact of the matter is, he didn't steal anything and we can't go around in life making real reasonable assumptions based on ones personal beliefs on the integrity of another.

From: Doofy
Omg there probably are ways to track me through an IP, but you obviously could not do it. I do not think I would have been found if I kept secret.

Also, how the fuck would I know about some member here that registered with a proxy, especially if he is inactive. You came up with the name, I had no idea who it was, but why should he get banned? I've been inactive but I wouldn't want to get banned… I don't think he would either.

I haven't been lieing about anything, there really is no point in lieing when I turned MYSELF in, I obviously was ready for opinions/consequences.

And now, you're basically staging a suicide threat. "Ban Doofy or I'll have to reconsider these forums…"

You knew.

And yea I will, someone goes on a big rant after posting a script that steals accounts is let off with a slap on a wrist, why the hell would I would to be any part of an organization with corruption and crap like that?

I'm not saying "Ban Doofy or I'll have to reconsider these forums…"

I'm saying "If people are let off the hook for doing horrible things, I'm not sure I want to be a part of this community"

Common Doofy, you really expect us to believe you turned yourself in because you felt bad about trying to steal accounts?

Yet on the other hand if you felt bad why did you say things like "they were just arrogant noobs" in the other thread

I think now it's clear to everyone why you turned yourself in…

From: pwnaz0r
Of course I get it. I just do not agree with it. The thing in red really doesn't make sense if you think about it… And its innocent until proven guilty, and if he gets/got away with what your saying, then that's the way of the world I guess, but your forgetting that nothing actually happened and that nothing got stolen.

Its basically like a comparison to this:

You know someone who builds a super fast car with a turbo. However a cop see's it in the garage beforehand and confronts him about it. Can he get a ticket or get in trouble? No. Why? He hasn't done anything wrong. Was he going to? maybe so, we can't know for sure. But the fact of the matter is, he didn't steal anything and we can't go around in life making real reasonable assumptions based on ones personal beliefs on the integrity of another.

That's a bunch of shit

You're allowed to have a car like that as long as you don't USE it

You're not allowed to try and steal peoples accounts just like your not allowed to try and go kill someone

It's called attempted murder.

He did do something wrong, he tried to steal accounts.

Are you seriously trying to tell me its OK to post shit like that as long they get caught before anything is actually stolen.

If so, Like I said, I don't know if this site reflects good morals like it used to…

From: IceFire908
You knew.

And yea I will, someone goes on a big rant after posting a script that steals accounts is let off with a slap on a wrist, why the hell would I would to be any part of an organization with corruption and crap like that?

I'm not saying "Ban Doofy or I'll have to reconsider these forums…"

I'm saying "If people are let off the hook for doing horrible things, I'm not sure I want to be a part of this community"

Common Doofy, you really expect us to believe you turned yourself in because you felt bad about trying to steal accounts?

Yet on the other hand if you felt bad why did you say things like "they were just arrogant noobs" in the other thread

I think now it's clear to everyone why you turned yourself in…

Yes, I expect to believe me about turning myself in because of resentment, because WHY THE FUCK ELSE WOULD I TURN MYSELF IN?

And yes, I said arrogant noobs because I was explaining why I liked this community, hence why I did not post it here.

"You're allowed to have a car like that as long as you don't USE it"

You're also allowed to have cocaine as long as you don't USE it, right?

I'm going to bed for tonight, I'll check back in tomorrow afternoon.

From: Doofy
Yes, I expect to believe me about turning myself in because of resentment, because WHY THE FUCK ELSE WOULD I TURN MYSELF IN?

And yes, I said arrogant noobs because I was explaining why I liked this community, hence why I did not post it here.

I said why, so then when they run more checks than IP matches to find out who it was they would find you and it would look better if you had turned yourself in thus saving you from being banned. Quit acting stupid.

From: Doofy
"You're allowed to have a car like that as long as you don't USE it"

You're also allowed to have cocaine as long as you don't USE it, right?

No, having a car that isn't street legal is ok, you have to be driving it to get fucked. Just like you were 'driving account stealer' but were caught before you ran anyone over.

No you're not allowed to have cocaine in the US because they are usually used in drug trafficking and stuff.

Those are two completely different irrelevant things.

Quit trying to deviate from the focus of this thread.

Trying to steal accounts is worthy of ban whether or not you were successful.

And fucking besides that, you've already ADMITTED what you did was bad and now you're justifying it AGAIN! even though you said you weren't

quit going in fucking circles…

From: Doofy
"You're allowed to have a car like that as long as you don't USE it"

You're also allowed to have cocaine as long as you don't USE it, right?

I think you just checked yourself :)

And Icefire, I never said that I wasn't in agreement with you. I said I disagree that we can just make the assumption that all your saying is true, even though you really have no *proof* that he was going to do anything with it. I could argue for etheir side, and it's an easy feat. Argument is really nothing but an art anymore, no one has to have proof as long as you can manipulate things (thought I would just share that :) ). The reason you can argue for both side here is just there are really no facts so its all based on personal morals and stuff which are variables, so I will just switch sides here really quick.

I had seen the script before this was posted, but I didn't know that it was you who had written it. On the other side of me, I'm a tad appalled that an SRL Member would take what he has learned from others, and use a program made by another to steal things from others. Its really not a very good way to live, and the arguement can be made you were just trying to save yourself.

However Icefire, I think that if we were to bring this to any court, it would be dismissed, because you are innocent until proven guilty. By the way, your anology is wrong. Attempted homocide or whatever would be something were he would actually have to attempt to login and take everything. And attempted homocides are all based on proofs. Ex. He had a gun, there was videotape footage, etc.

EDIT: Upon closer examination, I could argue against myself too. Well he did "have a gun", he had a script. So yeah I understand you could say that, but thats just another example of arguement being an art. As long as you didn't think of that, you might have thought it a really good point. Out argued myself there.

From: pwnaz0r
I think you just checked yourself :)

And Icefire, I never said that I wasn't in agreement with you. I said I disagree that we can just make the assumption that all your saying is true, even though you really have no *proof* that he was going to do anything with it. I could argue for etheir side, and it's an easy feat. Argument is really nothing but an art anymore, no one has to have proof as long as you can manipulate things (thought I would just share that :) ). The reason you can argue for both side here is just there are really no facts so its all based on personal morals and stuff which are variables, so I will just switch sides here really quick.

I had seen the script before this was posted, but I didn't know that it was you who had written it. On the other side of me, I'm a tad appalled that an SRL Member would take what he has learned from others, and use a program made by another to steal things from others. Its really not a very good way to live, and the arguement can be made you were just trying to save yourself.

However Icefire, I think that if we were to bring this to any court, it would be dismissed, because you are innocent until proven guilty. By the way, your anology is wrong. Attempted homocide or whatever would be something were he would actually have to attempt to login and take everything. And attempted homocides are all based on proofs. Ex. He had a gun, there was videotape footage, etc.

What the fuck are you saying?

Fact: Doofy released a script that was to steal passwords
Fact: We know it was Doofy

Those two things are proven

Do you agree Yes or No? Pwnz0r.

HE HAS ALREADY BEEN PROVEN GUILTY

But this question is what to do with him…

Jesus Christ..

From: IceFire908
What the fuck are you saying?

Fact: Doofy released a script that was to steal passwords
Fact: We know it was Doofy

Those two things are proven

Do you agree Yes or No? Pwnz0r.

HE HAS ALREADY BEEN PROVEN GUILTY

But this question is what to do with him…

Jesus Christ..

Ok let's act mature about this, seriously, your going to get an infraction from someone here soon. i already told you I agree with you, look at the edit and the post above. Stop argueing against someone on your side. I just said that I was off, and then you act like I was trying to argue against you, calm it down and start think clearly. This is why we have members ok?

From: Me


EDIT: Upon closer examination, I could argue against myself too. Well he did "have a gun", he had a script. So yeah I understand you could say that, but thats just another example of arguement being an art. As long as you didn't think of that, you might have thought it a really good point. Out argued myself there.

From: pwnaz0r
Ok let's act mature about this, seriously, your going to get an infraction from someone here soon. i already told you I agree with you, look at the edit and the post above. Stop argueing against someone on your side. I just said that I was off, and then you act like I was trying to argue against you, calm it down and start think clearly. This is why we have members ok?

Ok so you change your mind completely now?

What is your new opinion, ban or what?

Sorry I did not see your edit before I posted.

I got a little frustrated saying the same thing 100 times there lol sorry

From: IceFire908
Ok so you change your mind completely now?

What is your new opinion, ban or what?

Sorry I did not see your edit before I posted.

I got a little frustrated saying the same thing 100 times there lol sorry

No, I haven't changed my mind. I said at the beginning (or so I thought I did?) that I wasn't argueing for his side. The main reason I started defending him, was mainly to prove a point you argue for both sides, and I thought you had a right answer but were going about it the wrong way (Descartes anyone? This will confuse some people…) Anyways, then I make one post, and you seemed to start to flame me and of course I am going to defend myself.

In My opinion, you are the one who kind of changed your arguement. When I made that first post, you were saying soimething like "Well he posted this because he was trying to defend himself because it will make him look innocent", so when I disagreed with that, that's really the only thing I disagreed with. maybe I wasn't clear on that idk. At this point I don't think it really matters.

From: pwnaz0r
No, I haven't changed my mind. I said at the beginning (or so I thought I did?) that I wasn't argueing for his side. The main reason I started defending him, was mainly to prove a point you argue for both sides, and I thought you had a right answer but were going about it the wrong way (Descartes anyone? This will confuse some people…) Anyways, then I make one post, and you seemed to start to flame me and of course I am going to defend myself.

Probably because you haven't the slightest inkling how frustrating it is when people do what you do.

I'm still confused on what your intentions are considering you said you changed your mind completely (or at least I thought you did) and now you are saying this)

Please clarify what you think should come of Doofy again…

Read post above.

From: pwnaz0r
Read post above.

Yea I read that and it doesn't make sense.

You only talk about how it isn't proven that doofy confessed only to save himself from being banned even though he knew they could track it was him and how you realized it isn't proven that it wasn't either.

So please

Answer the original question of the poll because you are confusing/ frustrating the crap out of me…

Thanks.

From: IceFire908
Yea I read that and it doesn't make sense.

You only talk about how it isn't proven that doofy confessed only to save himself from being banned even though he knew they could track it was him and how you realized it isn't proven that it wasn't either.

So please

Answer the original question of the poll because you are confusing/ frustrating the crap out of me…

Thanks.

I personally don't think there is a "true" right answer to it, because we really don't know what he would have done. I think if I had to choose, I would do something about it, because there was a possibility. I am thankful, however that the decision is not up to me, because that's what the administrators are for. In respect, I don't think its up to anyone, except them, so does this thread really have a purpose other than to show each persons morals? Probably not, AFAIK. Its just going to be like the election, there are rumors and lies going around, but in the end, its comes down to what makes sense to each person :\

Doofy and IceFire calm down a bit. Tone down the language, no name calling, and do this intelligently. There's no need for "WHY THE FUCK" etc…

From: richk1693
Doofy and IceFire calm down a bit. Tone down the language, no name calling, and do this intelligently. There's no need for "WHY THE FUCK" etc…

First sentence of the first post I made, another reason I forgot to mention that I jumped in (silly me :)).

I don't think it will happen again though richk, hopefully they can control themselves.

From: pwnaz0r-tardface:)
At this point I don't think it really matters.

There you go, but I think he should be banned. I mean, hell, if I saw a car in a garage I'd want to have it and drive it.

Err I think?

If I tried to kill someone, I would have killed multiple people and not just miss like Ditty or whatever his name is.

Maybe?

And for sure he's was a little woman afraid of being caught, no guts, and so he came out. Haha, that just makes me think he's a dummy.

Wow, rambling more?:spot:

From: pwnaz0r
I personally don't think there is a "true" right answer to it, because we really don't know what he would have done. I think if I had to choose, I would do something about it, because there was a possibility. I am thankful, however that the decision is not up to me, because that's what the administrators are for. In respect, I don't think its up to anyone, except them, so does this thread really have a purpose other than to show each persons morals? Probably not, AFAIK. Its just going to be like the election, there are rumors and lies going around, but in the end, its comes down to what makes sense to each person :\

This thread serves as a POLL not a VOTE.

Now if Wizzup had posted this saying "majority controls what happens" then it would be a vote.

This is just a general consensus to see what the general SRL member population thinks of this crap.

And yes this serves as a purpose as Wizzup is waiting for more opinions before he decides what he is going to do, so this poll influences whether or not he is banned or let go or simply punished.

And no one is asking for a 'True' answer I'm simply asking for your opinion.

If you do not have an opinion then do not post, it's that simple pwnz0r, you'll save everyone a massive headache.

If you have an opinion after reading this I'd like to hear it though…

Thanks

From: pwnaz0r
First sentence of the first post I made, another reason I forgot to mention that I jumped in (silly me :)).

I don't think it will happen again though richk, hopefully they can control themselves.

It's kinda hard not to when you have to reiterate yourself 5 or 6 times.

I'll try hard though…

From: Ejjman1
There you go, but I think he should be banned. I mean, hell, if I saw a car in a garage I'd want to have it and drive it.

Err I think?

If I tried to kill someone, I would have killed multiple people and not just miss like Ditty or whatever his name is.

Maybe?

And for sure he's was a little woman afraid of being caught, no guts, and so he came out. Haha, that just makes me think he's a dummy.

Wow, rambling more?:spot:

I agree for ban but…
I don't get your analogy about the little woman afraid part…

Oh well, someone will…

From: IceFire908
This thread serves as a POLL not a VOTE.

Now if Wizzup had posted this saying "majority controls what happens" then it would be a vote.

This is just a general consensus to see what the general SRL member population thinks of this crap.

And yes this serves as a purpose as Wizzup is waiting for more opinions before he decides what he is going to do, so this poll influences whether or not he is banned or let go or simply punished.

And no one is asking for a 'True' answer I'm simply asking for your opinion.

If you do not have an opinion then do not post, it's that simple pwnz0r, you'll save everyone a massive headache.

If you have an opinion after reading this I'd like to hear it though…

Thanks

Honestly, My Opinion, is I really don't care about it at and that you are taking it way too serious and getting too upset. Hopefully you don't flame me for that… As you have cursed multiple times, and taken some attacks at me and I have been mature, and you really actually deserve an infraction, but you know… Anyways, the thing is that I'm not giving anyone a headache that has posted… the only thing that has happened on this thread :

1) you argued against me, and gave me a headache, instead of recognizing the point I was trying to make, I guess in anger or whatever you thought I was against you. Maybe there was miscommunication on my part, but you still took it way too far, farther than your morals that you claim SRL is getting away from would certainly agree with, don't you think?

2) you made everyone else mad by flaming and cursing.

If I gave you a headache, then fine, but no one has posted complaining of any headaches ( that I gave them ), so I don't see why your so worked up about it. I already told you that I supported you, and you continue to flame me?

The problem I have with this thread is that we are supposed to be more mature, and you are obviously taking a little too far, as some of the comments even other than mine show.

To be honest it doesn't matter to me. He said he never wanted anything bad for this community, and in my eyes he hasn't harmed SRL nor broken SRL's rules. He caused trouble in another community, not here.. You might aswell start tracking down every member of this community that has been banned from another community and ban/punish them for that.

TL;DR: He broke that crap sites rules, not SRL's and never intended to harm SRL so I'd say not guilty.

E: Incase of no-makey sense; I just woke up after 3 hours of sleep.

From: pwnaz0r
Honestly, My Opinion, is I really don't care about it at and that you are taking it way too serious and getting too upset. Hopefully you don't flame me for that… As you have cursed multiple times, and taken some attacks at me and I have been mature, and you really actually deserve an infraction, but you know… Anyways, the thing is that I'm not giving anyone a headache that has posted… the only thing that has happened on this thread :

1) you argued against me, and gave me a headache, instead of recognizing the point I was trying to make, I guess in anger or whatever you thought I was against you. Maybe there was miscommunication on my part, but you still took it way too far, farther than your morals that you claim SRL is getting away from would certainly agree with, don't you think?

2) you made everyone else mad by flaming and cursing.

If I gave you a headache, then fine, but no one has posted complaining of any headaches ( that I gave them ), so I don't see why your so worked up about it. I already told you that I supported you, and you continue to flame me?

The problem I have with this thread is that we are supposed to be more mature, and you are obviously taking a little too far, as some of the comments even other than mine show.

I don't see why you're still carying on about or mis-communication (or whatever you want to call it)

I thought we came to an understanding.

Why are you still trying to fight me?

I just want to know your opinion about Doofy and you're focused on something else…

Why don't you just tell me what you think Doofy deserves for trying to steal passwords or tell me you don't have an opinion.

I have no intention of fighting you unless it's about your opinion with Doof which you don't even have ATM.

From: GoF
To be honest it doesn't matter to me. He said he never wanted anything bad for this community, and in my eyes he hasn't harmed SRL nor broken SRL's rules. He caused trouble in another community, not here.. You might aswell start tracking down every member of this community that has been banned from another community and ban/punish them for that.

TL;DR: He broke that crap sites rules, not SRL's and never intended to harm SRL so I'd say not guilty.

E: Incase of no-makey sense; I just woke up after 3 hours of sleep.

The main reason I think this concerns SRL is because he used SCAR scripting as a platform to try and mislead others to steal their passwords…

So even though he said he wants nothing bad for this community he's shown he doesn't respect the reputation of us and he is causing harm that way whether or not he said "I don't want harm for SRL" he is still causing it.

IceFire, there's a little green arrow next to the quote button. You can click on it for the posts you want to reply to and click reply. That way you don't have to make every reply a double-post :p.

I think Wizzup pretty much just doesn't care enough to ban him. Personally, I think he should get a 1-week ban.

For the turbo-car argument. Having the car would be writing the script, which is ok. Driving the car (way above the speed limit) would be posting the script, and running people over would be stealing the accounts. He deserves a ticket, not life in jail.

I voted yes.

Password stealing scripts is like the worst thing.. And then flaming you and the other posters in 3 pages?!
Ban.

Edit: You people should not swear, even tho he does it…

8 8 8, he doesnt even go on srl, so who cares.

Think about it for a sec.

From: Zytex!
I voted yes.

Password stealing scripts is like the worst thing.. And then flaming you and the other posters in 3 pages?!
Ban.

Edit: You people should not swear, even tho he does it…

He did not post it on SRL. He never meant to break SRL's rules nor harm the SRL communit. It's a different community, different people, different rules. He doesn't deserve a ban here as he didn't break a single rule on this site. Or would it make sense to you if someone continuously flamed people on sythe and got banned here for offensive language?

From: Ashur2Good
8 8 8, he doesnt even go on srl, so who cares.

Think about it for a sec.

Tbh, its a point of having good morals.

For instance, if a United States citizen were to go to South Korea (where the age of consent is 12) and have sex with a 12 year old, then return to the United States they would prosecute him for doing it.

The point is, anyone who would go to another country/site and do something wrong (despite of the other country's/site morals/laws) might do it here. Even if they don't, they still did it over there and should be punished by any country/site they are a member of.

SRL may not be tight with any sites in the RS cheating community as a whole, but we, as a sign of good faith we should do SOMETHING.

I would be disappointed if I were to go to every other SCAR script sites and try and scam, then return here and suffer no repercussion.

And what the hell are you on about Doofy? Tricking noobs? What kind of pseudo vigilante do you consider yourself to be? Your friend got hacked? Then your friend was a moron. Not that I'm not sorry to hear it, but that's no excuse to kick back at innocent noobs.

@Ice: Its not like a thread shaming Doofy would do much, I don't think he cares very much….

In closing, not a PERM ban, but maybe a suspension and a special title "known account scammer", just to let people know…

@GOF: Its not like its flaming… this is an attempted account(s) theft. That's like THE crime in RS cheating. The big one. That's not petty, like insulting.

From: Ruroken
Tbh, its a point of having good morals.

For instance, if a United States citizen were to go to South Korea (where the age of consent is 12) and have sex with a 12 year old, then return to the United States they would prosecute him for doing it.

The point is, anyone who would go to another country/site and do something wrong (despite of the other country's/site morals/laws) might do it here. Even if they don't, they still did it over there and should be punished by any country/site they are a member of.

SRL may not be tight with any sites in the RS cheating community as a whole, but we, as a sign of good faith we should do SOMETHING.

I would be disappointed if I were to go to every other SCAR script sites and try and scam, then return here and suffer no repercussion.

And what the hell are you on about Doofy? Tricking noobs? What kind of pseudo vigilante do you consider yourself to be? Your friend got hacked? Then your friend was a moron. Not that I'm not sorry to hear it, but that's no excuse to kick back at innocent noobs.

@Ice: Its not like a thread shaming Doofy would do much, I don't think he cares very much….

In closing, not a PERM ban, but maybe a suspension and a special title "known account scammer", just to let people know…

@GOF: Its not like its flaming… this is an attempted account(s) theft. That's like THE crime in RS cheating. The big one. That's not petty, like insulting.

I aggree with some points there, mostly with the "
In closing, not a PERM ban, but maybe a suspension and a special title "known account scammer", just to let people know…"

Tbh, stuff the ban. He didn't go on SRL before, so why would he know? (Unless if you are :O)

I think the most suitable solution would be the village clown for a lil bit, or a the special title idea.


ma three cents

-Ashur

From: pwnaz0r


Way I see it: No harm done, like Hey321, or anyone else who stole.

Oh yeah [Acts like Hey] Oops I just accidentally Jukka's accounts! <- Yes that isn't supposed to make sense grammatically.

From: ~~Joker~~
everyone gave that thief(hey123) a second chance why him, and he confessed before anyone got dissapointed.

so no need to ban him.

Incorrect.
I did not and neither did Jukka, I even made a poll on having him banned or not (which Wizzy happily closed :) )
Don't speak for the whole SRL community please.


MY OPINION:

Ronny M.P. was banned even thought he used a proxy ( I think).
Mage of Begu was banned.
Hey was banned ( then came back :S )

I think you should be the next on the list Doofy.
Also, when I wrote in the other thread that "I couldn't trust you anymore".
This was not something I meant as me individually I meant that I DO NOT THINK THIS COMMUNITY CAN TRUST YOU TO BE A SRL MEMBER BECAUSE SRL MEMBERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TRUSTWORTHY PEOPLE. <- I hope you feel my rage.

@ GoF: Tell us what SRL stands for.

Also, if this guy doesn't get any kind of punishment then I know that I am free to try to scam members on other communities freely :).That's pretty useful if you think about it ^^ =P

I MISS THE DAYS WHEN FAKAWI AND RAM WERE ACTIVE!

From: Hugolord
I think you should be the next on the list Doofy.
Also, when I wrote in the other thread that "I couldn't trust you anymore".
This was not something I meant as me individually I meant that I DO NOT THINK THIS COMMUNITY CAN TRUST YOU TO BE A SRL MEMBER BECAUSE SRL MEMBERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TRUSTWORTHY PEOPLE. <- I hope you feel my rage.

I recall someone messing up with the SRL-Stats… He messed up both Tarajunky's chicken killer and his own user time.
I remember that the SRL-Staff wanted him permanently banned. I was in for a more nice approach, and he was only banned for two weeks. The person never regained my full trust, however. That person was you, Hugolord.

EDIT: Was this publicly offensive enough, IceFire908?

From: Wizzup?
I recall someone messing up with the SRL-Stats… He messed up both Tarajunky's chicken killer and his own user time.
I remember that the SRL-Staff wanted him permanently banned. I was in for a more nice approach, and he was only banned for two weeks. The person never regained my full trust, however. That person was you, Hugolord.

So you think your great SRL stats numbers are more important that the safety of common "noobs" as Doofy calls them at SRL/other communities?
Wow you must really care about your Wizzup? Essence Miner stats.
Furthermore I know you guys keep database backups.

Not only that but the messing up was not at all intentional. If you think humans aren't made to make mistakes you have a serious problem.
Also, I don't really have much respect for you (many reasons but I don't feel like going offtopic here).



For anyone that needs a little refreshing on something I did wrong:



Originally Posted by hugolord
Fawk this isn't entirely my fault ok maybe alot of it is anyway in my script i was trying to add SRL stats and testing if worked right and i used an id which was 360 and it just set all my stats plus 50k ( i had 43k )

so i dont know what to do now and i dont want to be banned for this so what can i do?

i put this in my script :

Worked := GetTimeRunning

and im terribly sorry for all of this

i know you have a policy of no SRL stats hacking but this isnt the case i wasnt trying to
———————————————————————————————-

Just remembered to point this out:

Notice how I got a two week ban for making a faulty script when Doofy get not ban for trying to steal accounts using scar.

From: Hugolord
So you think your great SRL stats numbers are more important that the safety of common "noobs" as Doofy calls them at SRL/other communities?
Wow you must really care about your Wizzup? Essence Miner stats.
Furthermore I know you guys keep database backups.

You are acting like a complete idiot. I just pointed out that you were no better than the guys you just listed. We don't keep backups of the SRL-Stats Database. Tarajunky's just happened to have his own minutes from a few weeks back, stored.

From: Hugolord


Not only that but the messing up was not at all intentional. If you think humans aren't made to make mistakes you have a serious problem.
Also, I don't really have much respect for you (many reasons but I don't feel like going offtopic here).

The messing up was intentional. Stop the lies. You probably have your reasons for disliking me. Just like you would dislike any other administrator who just closes idiotic threads and points people who act like dicks in the correct direction. Everything you've said on this thread makes no real sense, don't you see that?

Furthermore, what do you expect the SRL-Staff do with threads like these?
Just because some people might personally not like Doofy, it is no general reason to ban him, nor start a topic flaming him.
I'm happy to see that most of the other SRL Members are still very mature,

Pwnaz0r, thank you. :)

i voted no, ment to vote yes tho

From: Wizzup?
You are acting like a complete idiot. I just pointed out that you were no better than the guys you just listed. We don't keep backups of the SRL-Stats Database. Tarajunky's just happened to have his own minutes from a few weeks back, stored.



The messing up was intentional. Stop the lies. You probably have your reasons for disliking me. Just like you would dislike any other administrator who just closes idiotic threads and points people who act like dicks in the correct direction. Everything you've said on this thread makes no real sense, don't you see that?

Furthermore, what do you expect the SRL-Staff do with threads like these?
Just because some people might personally not like Doofy, it is no general reason to ban him, nor start a topic flaming him.
I'm happy to see that most of the other SRL Members are still very mature,

Pwnaz0r, thank you. :)

No need for trying to insult me it does not work on the internet.
First, how the heck do you think I INTENTIONALLY messed up the SRL-stats??
What possibly benefit would I get by trying to raise my SRL Stats?? lol this is completely retarded.
I don't give a darn about the holy SRL Stats and never did nor never will, they are just numbers and there is no way I could compete with people that auto on like 8 computer at a time nor would I want to I barely auto as it is.
Also, I gave both you and Fakawi the before and after SRL stat which you could have just easily calculated and fixed the whole thing and someone told me you did have SRL Stat backups..

What do I expect from the SRL staff?
I expect an official thread saying if Doofy Hey or whatever are going to be banned or not. If you tell me that Doofy is not going to be banned ( You don't even have to give me a reason) then there is no point to have this thread it's your decision and you are the admin. But, if you let us argue on and on why he should or why he shouldn't be banned and at the end LOCK it and still give us no official news about this then that's just.. wow.. I don't know what then.. retarded?

I would say a punishment (village clown?)

Hugo, you do realise that flaming wizzup, which is basically what your doing, is completely off-topic and isn't exactly going to move this thread along, but back on topic, Doofy did a bad thing, on a completely different forum, scar scripts isn't srl, therefore he shouldn't be banned on this forum as he has done noting to bother this forum, which he stated, and if you search his posts all he has done is post helpful/contributing posts, and i still don't understand why you can't discuss it calmly, it makes no sense to argue with somebody like that over a game. so i vote no, it's completely different.

There is no need to flame here, This in the members forum for a reason, everyone here is meant to be mature enough to discuss this normally and calmly.
No one has the right to point and ban, except admins, so there's no point. The original intention of the thread was valid in that a discussion would help the admins decide, but its not your final decision.

The script was no released here, therefore why should he be banned here?
It has no connections except the program used and has the same concept. Its like posting in Sythe (presuming things haven changed that much in my absence), and still being banned here. There is no connection, can you no see?
Flaming on the internet is pointless and is easy to hide in the security of a web.

~Spaz

After reconsidering the position of Doofy I came to the conclusion that he should still be punished. Although I think it's nice that he told us all this himself, and didn't lie about it.
Doofy has been banned for one month.