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Could somebody explain to me why nobody uses ColorToleranceSpeed(3)?
I just used it right now and it seems really accurate.

*If this is the wrong place, I'm sorry I didn't really know where to post it*

-Shermanator

It's new, give it some time ;)

All the tutorials etc. are about RGB or HSL, even ACA is RGB or HSL (though we'd love to have XYZ in it but Freddy wouldn't let us know the tolerance formula, he has his reasons)

From: Shermanator
Could somebody explain to me why nobody uses ColorToleranceSpeed(3)?
I just used it right now and it seems really accurate.

*If this is the wrong place, I'm sorry I didn't really know where to post it*

-Shermanator

It is not used a lot, because people simply don't know how it works, and what the algorithm is. It isn't in ACA (Auto Color Aid, made by Nielsie95 and Sumilion), because Nielsie95 and Sumilion don't know how ColorToleranceSpeed 3 works.
ColorToleranceSpeed 3 is also highly sensitive, and rather slow compared to the other Color Tolerance speeds. :)

i dont know how it works
mabey someone who does know could make a tut on it and how ColorToleranceSpeed works

~shut

Oh ok, Thanks a lot for clearing that up Sumilion and Wizzup? :D

-Shermanator

The fourth tolerance mode compares colors based on the human eye, so if you think a color looks alike, so will SCAR using that mode, making it extremely sensitive and accurate. You can also change the sensitivity which will make it so you have to use a higher or lower tolerance to achieve a similar effect.

Use CTS 3, it makes your penis bigger.

I remember when CTS 3 was new and Wizzup gave me some function and told to try it in Rimmington Mine. It freaking painted all the points of the rock's clay part… I was amused :p

From: Freddy1990
The fourth tolerance mode compares colors based on the human eye, so if you think a color looks alike, so will SCAR using that mode, making it extremely sensitive and accurate. You can also change the sensitivity which will make it so you have to use a higher or lower tolerance to achieve a similar effect.

So, its only shows colors of the visible spectrum, as compared to RS might show colors which are indistinguishable to us, but throw off autoers?

Here is how do i find a willow without sorting it with ColorToleranceSpeed(3) and SetColorSpeed3Modifiers(Sensivity):

Function FindWillow(Var X,Y : Integer): Boolean;
Var
  TPA : TPointArray;
  I : Integer;
Begin
  ColorToleranceSpeed(3);
  SetColorSpeed3Modifiers(4);
  FindColorsSpiralTolerance(MSCX, MSCY, TPA, 10344398, MSX1, MSY1, MSX2, MSY2, 13);
  ColorToleranceSpeed(1);
  For I := 0 To High(TPA) Do
  Begin
    MiddleTPAex(TPA, X, Y);
    MMouse(X, Y, 5, 5);
    If IsUpText('illow') Then
    Begin
      Result := True;
      GetMousePos(X, Y);
      //DebugTPA(TPA, '');
      Exit;
    End;
  End;
End;

If you want to test it:

program New;
{.include srl/srl.scar}
Var
  X, Y : Integer;
Function DebugTPA(Points: TPointArray; BmpName: String): Boolean;

Var
   Width, Height, ClientBMP, I, L: Integer;
   xs, ys, xe, ye: Integer;

Begin
  Try
  Begin
    xe := xs xor xs;
    ye := ys xor ys;
    xs := 1 shl 20;
    ys := 1 shl 20;

    For I := 0 To High(Points) Do
    Begin
      xs := Min(xs, Points[i].X);
      ys := Min(ys, Points[i].Y);

      xe := Max(xe, Points[i].X);
      ye := Max(ye, Points[i].Y);
    End;

    Width := xe - xs;
    Height := ye - ys;

    DisplayDebugImgWindow(0, 0);
    DisplayDebugImgWindow(Width, Height);
    ClientBMP := BitmapFromString(Width, Height, '');

    CopyClientToBitmap(ClientBMP, xs, ys, xe, ye);
    For I := 0 To High(Points) Do
      FastSetPixel(ClientBMP, Points[i].X - xs, Points[i].Y - ys, 255);
    If BmpName <> '' Then
      SaveBitmap(ClientBMP, ScriptPath + BmpName + '.bmp');
    SafeDrawBitmap(ClientBMP, GetDebugCanvas, 0, 0);
    DisplayDebugImgWindow(Width, Height);

    FreeBitmap(ClientBMP);
  End
  Except
    FreeBitmap(ClientBMP);
  End;
  Result := True;
End;

Function FindWillow(Var X,Y : Integer): Boolean;
Var
  TPA : TPointArray;
  I : Integer;
Begin
  ColorToleranceSpeed(3);
  SetColorSpeed3Modifiers(4);
  FindColorsSpiralTolerance(MSCX, MSCY, TPA, 10344398, MSX1, MSY1, MSX2, MSY2, 13);
  ColorToleranceSpeed(1);
  For I := 0 To High(TPA) Do
  Begin
    MiddleTPAex(TPA, X, Y);
    MMouse(X, Y, 5, 5);
    If IsUpText('illow') Then
    Begin
      Result := True;
      GetMousePos(X, Y);
      DebugTPA(TPA, '');
      Exit;
    End;
  End;
End;

begin
  ActivateClient;
  SetupSRL;
  Wait(500);
  Writeln(BoolToStr(FindWillow(X, Y)));
end.

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From: Cazax

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That is one sexy debug picture, I must say.

I use it to get the length of the progress bar in the tutorial island.

I have seen this in the manual and I too wondered. After reading it, i might give it a try! It looks awesome! Maybe its good for auto-coloring. ;p

And also in CTS2 is sort of similar to the debug image of CTS3, so i don't really think it's that big of a deal.

It looks nastily nice!
Gonna use it.
~Eerik~

From: Nava2
So, its only shows colors of the visible spectrum, as compared to RS might show colors which are indistinguishable to us, but throw off autoers?

Well, it just looks at colors the way you would rather than in a computerish way, comparing RGB, HSL and such… Making it really accurate to find close colors, When I first created the algorithm I created a small POC app which would have a screenshot of the RS minimap and would flawlessly color the road and only the road… Then I put it in SCAR with the minimap functions, which I later removed and just converted it to a tolerance mode so it can be used with any function… On a sidenote… You don't have to use SetColorSpeed3Modifiers in most cases, I've chosen a value which should be good in most cases…

EDIT, btw Nava, that was a yes :p

From: Freddy1990
Well, it just looks at colors the way you would rather than in a computerish way, comparing RGB, HSL and such… Making it really accurate to find close colors, When I first created the algorithm I created a small POC app which would have a screenshot of the RS minimap and would flawlessly color the road and only the road… Then I put it in SCAR with the minimap functions, which I later removed and just converted it to a tolerance mode so it can be used with any function… On a sidenote… You don't have to use SetColorSpeed3Modifiers in most cases, I've chosen a value which should be good in most cases…

EDIT, btw Nava, that was a yes :p

Would you mind writing a tutorial on setting the modifier? :)

First of all Freddy, thanks for explaining CTS 3.

From: Nava2
Would you mind writing a tutorial on setting the modifier? :)

I was actually going to ask the very same question, as it very few people except yourself (if any) that know how the CTS 3 algorithm works, and I believe this could be a very useful feature to have in advanced autocoloring functions like SRL's so they wouldn't have to be updated as frequently.

And, one more question, I see people are talking about you having your reasons not to release the source of CTS 3. I fully understand if you do not want to answer this, but what are these reasons?

From: Nava2
Would you mind writing a tutorial on setting the modifier? :)

Well, it's really simple… A higher sensitivity will require a much lower tolerance… And a lower one a higher tolerance, nothing more to it, it just influences the tolerance you need to input.

From: EvilChicken!
And, one more question, I see people are talking about you having your reasons not to release the source of CTS 3. I fully understand if you do not want to answer this, but what are these reasons?

It's part of SCAR, SCAR is closed source, so this is 2…

Thank you.

One final question that noone seemed to be able to respond to on IRC, how much does the sensitivity modifier range from and to, and what is the default sensitivity?

From: EvilChicken!
Thank you.

One final question that noone seemed to be able to respond to on IRC, how much does the sensitivity modifier range from and to, and what is the default sensitivity?

It ranges from 1 to infinity i guess, but at a certain point it'll become useless… And the default value is 4