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"If you are the victor in your combat, you will discover that your enemies drop items. These items are randomly generated by the game based on how much your opponent was carrying, how much you are carrying, the difference between your Combat level and your opponent's, how long you have survived outside safe zones on the PvP world, and how many other players you have killed recently. If you frequently enter safe zones, your drops will certainly not be as impressive as if you had spent the whole time in a hot zone. "

How can I increase my chances of getting good drops?
Several factors determine the value of the drops you can receive. These include, but are not limited to: your Combat level, your opponents' Combat level, the value of items you are carrying, the value of items your opponent was carrying, how long you have survived in a dangerous area on the PvP world, how many players you have killed on the PvP world recently, and whether you are in a hot zone.
Drops will improve if you are carrying at least 75,000 coins' worth of items (or 25,000 coins' worth on a free world) that you will lose if you die - your three most valuable items are not included in this. To get better drops, your victim must also lose at least 25,000 coins' worth of equipment.


As it says, the items are generated by the game. So a computer is generating it. A computer is definately not as smart as a human being. This is why I believe there is a possiblity that we can manipulate this computer, and play a scenario between two characters, minimize our losses and maximize our loot.

I've sufed Runescape Community, and i've seen quite a few pk's where they've gotten 10-50% of what the kill was actually worth. How do they do this? Can we replicate this?

http://www.zybez.net/community/index.php?showtopic=1133126

Second picture, He's wearing ahrim, whip n fury. maybe 6m of stuff.
Why is it that he gets 50M in return? Is it chance? or can you actually do it?

Comments?

Edit: Just realized this. for example two people are fighting. Person 1 and Person 2. Person 1 kills person 2. Person 2 was weilding a dragon scimitar. Person 1 does not receive that scimitar to sell back to other players. = dragon scimitar goes up in price. The person who die's items are taken completely out of the game. Which means the cycle of people killing other people, then selling their stuff back is ruined. Which means all Pking equptment supplies will inflate.

More Comments?
(I think i'm gonna go buy a few whips..)

yes, PK items, all in all, are going to inflate to 3X their original wildy era prices.

WOW.. I never thought about that inflate thing.
Ive ben noticing that there are a lot of people buying but very few selling.
Im gonna go stock up on stuff

hmmm, I haven't read much on this, but I think you keep your 3 most expensive items? So then the most expensive shouldn't go up much, but rune armor and less expensive PvP equip should go up.

Wow I never thought of that either, hopefully it doesnt go up too much or else my poor self cant afford ti :(

I invested nearly 3 mill into various items used for pvp the day after the update, might be a while till it pays off

"hmmm, I haven't read much on this, but I think you keep your 3 most expensive items? So then the most expensive shouldn't go up much, but rune armor and less expensive PvP equip should go up."

If you're sculled, you loose all items :(

What do you guys think about manipulating PVP Worlds?
I had a good idea, and i'm wondering if anyone will test this out for me.

Player 1 has abyssal whip. Player 2 has abbysal whip, rune armour etc. Player 2 is SCULLED and logged in in a secluded area in PVP world for 30 minutes. Player 1 logs on, player 2 kills him. Because Player 2 has 2M + worth of equptment and is sculled, he should get an item worth that abyssal whip OR MORE he has pked from player 1. I don't have the time to test out my theory, but this could make RTW workign again if it works. PM me or post on this thread if you're willing to try it.

Edit: Look at this thread on Runescape Community!

http://www.zybez.net/community/index.php?showtopic=1133845

Doesn't work….
Having over 75k will now help you chances of getting a good drop, so I advise you not to try it unless you are willing to lose 1.6 M, with prices going up as well.

if ppl pk, dont they need runes? if so, why does the price of blood runes keep going down? i have over 3k in GE for lowest price and none are selling

Wow, this is true, think about it, if somehow a dragon scimitar goes up to like 2m, than it keeps going up because of this that would be intense that's like 6m!

Jagex puts caps on how much certain items can cost…
Elemental runes are capped at like 15
Lobs were capped at 368
I bet D scims are capped at around 120k ea?

Hmm, my interest in this topic kind of died
Since Jagex now controls the prices of items.
Which means they'll integrate items back into the economy somehow.

It would cost a lot more than you make if you keep killing eachother with a friend.
You can post your thoughts though

Actually, you make a bit of a profit.
This is how I did it.
Find the most empty PvP world….
Get on another account leave him outside Lumby castle
Log in and kill him.
He respawns, walk him out…kill him…
I got around 10k in like 20 kills doing that.

Haha, kinda lame, but o well

Cheers

Obama Llama

Unfortunately, you can do it. And unfortunately, people do it. But Jagex will probably fix quite soon.

Invested loads….around 15m before pvp and now hoping to gain around 30m prof :P

Just buy dragon scimmys from ape atoll…

There have been post on other Runescape forums saying. The system is way to easy to Manipulate. Other people say the Pvp worlds are crap. I say that. I wanted the old wilderness back! D<! I wanted to Mage some melee guy and take all his armour and food so i could stay longer in the wilderness..And the frist time i go out i get 10 Mind runes. Whoa. I feel special. D:

From: Kohkoh
There have been post on other Runescape forums saying. The system is way to easy to Manipulate. Other people say the Pvp worlds are crap. I say that. I wanted the old wilderness back! D<! I wanted to Mage some melee guy and take all his armour and food so i could stay longer in the wilderness..And the frist time i go out i get 10 Mind runes. Whoa. I feel special. D:

yeah, you totally summed it up for PKers.

pvp just doesn't have the same kick as wildy used to, since theres hardly any point in risking expensive armour to get addy picks and salmon.

Old wildy : PvP is like Sharks : Shrimps

Its based upon a lot more factors than that. To get good drops that are worth your time, you have to kill someone a higher level than you, in a hotspot, with 75k (25k f2p) worth of items that are not protected in any way. Also, your opponent must have atleast 25k worth of items to lose, in order to get maximum drops. This means if you are not skulled, you have your three most expensive items protected. These do not count towards the 75k. Only once you first attack another player, skulling yourself, does it count.

The wilderness is apparently the best place to kill. It gives 4x better rewards than the average hotspot. By the way, if you are pking outside of lumby, of course you are getting addy skirts as drops. Its close to the noob respawn, and most there don't wear expensive things.

Here is my suggestion for manipulation:

Find someone who is a higher cb level than you, but that you could still kill.
Load them up with 25k worth of items, and load yourself up with 75k worth of items. Now go to a remote section in the DEEP wild where there is a hotspot for the most reward. Have them attack you which skulls them. Stop the fight. You now attack them, skulling yourself. You kill them, and your reward will be extremely good because of all the risks you took, providing you did it right. You can then sell your reward, and give the 25k back to your friend who helped you, then trade places so they can do the same. Even if it takes multiple tries, it would be worth it as some of the PvP only drops are worth millions.

Also, as a form of insurance for your friend, you could just give them the 25k before hand, so they aren't losing their money.

Here is my suggestion based upon my reading.

i heard the wild was alot better than outside lumbridge castle to.
the thing i dont get though is jagex has put all this time into finding ways to live on without the wilderness..and the old style of pking , theyve went from taking it all away to added stupid mini games that everyone hates, and now to adding just kill anybody anywhere, and maybe if the numbers are in your favor, u might get rewarded for all ur work and risk, back in the old days u killed a guy that was a higher level and he was attacking u with nice stuff, u were pretty much guaranted a good reward, now its possible to go and do all of that work for nothing , and then get killed by some guy who just gets lucky and walks up behind u after ur done fighting
so ur reward ends up being- addy battle ax, salmon, str pot
ur loss to get this-runes , food, arrows,might break even by the time ur done but then u better hope that second guy dont get ya cause then ur gonna gain like maybe 10k and loose over 100k, they have just really made this system bad, u would think with all of that energy theyve put into making sure the wild doesnt come back, that maybe they could just go back and edit the wild