SRL Archive - SRL Member Goodies

My Runescape banning theory.


mariofan12

2008-09-27 12:39:39

Alright, so if you guys have seen my thread about "Is SRL safe?" then you would now that I have theory on how Jagex bans accounts. I am posting this here because I don't want Jagex to find out if this is correct, so here it is.

Couple things you should now:
-I have windows vista, thus random.dat is only in C:/windows/.jagex_cache_32
-I bot… A lot

alright so one day I was botting I started to get many randoms, so I went to delete that random.dat file (At this time, I've had 2 accounts banned) and I looked in loginapplet folder which is in the same folder as random.dat (for vista) and I noticed 2 files called "cache–(random numbers which are the same).dat" I decided to just delete all of the .dat files because I had no idea what they were. (there was another .dat file that i deleted) now when i signed back in, only the other .dat file came back. A couple of days later, I get banned on another one of my accounts, i submit an appeal, and i see that the blackmark was made on September 24. Now I decided to check out that loginapplet folder again, and there was a another cache file (which was modified on the 24th)! so i deleted it.

One day later, I was botting on my last account, and I was about to sign in, when I felt like checking my loginapplet folder, and there was ANOTHER cache file (I haven't logged in yet) and I delete this cache file. when I try to sign in, [H]I'm not banned!! [/H] :eek: .

So I have made a theory that jagex saves these cache files while you are playing(they can't just randomly sign you out) and when you try to log back in, this .dat file will send information that the account was banned.

Anyone feel like testing this?

EDIT: the loginapplet folder is in the same folder as your random.dat

P1nky

2008-09-27 12:56:36

didnt wt-fawki already do this, he also made a thread about this.

mariofan12

2008-09-27 13:05:14

what really?!?! crap, i had no idea that he did

Daniel

2008-09-27 20:43:52

From: ~~Joker~~
didnt wt-fawki already do this, he also made a thread about this.

He did? No.

mariofan12

2008-09-27 21:11:55

[QUOTE=Dan's The Man;472002]He did? No.[/QUOTE]
ok thank god…

Narcle

2008-09-27 21:53:55

They could do this server side just as easily. All computers have MAC addresses, also they keep records of where all the accounts log in from, even if you have a dynamic IP address. Its not hard to follow server side.

[-jesus-]

2008-09-27 22:09:26

95% sure those are just for when you load up RS, so it won't have to re-download & get everything..

Load a world, remember the average time it took to load, then delete all the files in C:/windows/.jagex_cache_32 & reload & it should take longer.

Nava2

2008-09-28 01:34:56

Nice thinking, but I agree with Jesus. Its probably for loading.

Markus

2008-09-28 02:29:06

Look, you can't know if it bans you or not, Schrödinger's cat anyone?

Iron Man

2008-09-28 04:06:54

From: Markus
Look, you can't know if it bans you or not, Schrödinger's cat anyone?



Until you observe it. :)

Also, did you just get that link from me linking Cutem2it on IRC?

Markus

2008-09-28 04:30:07

From: Iron man
Until you observe it. :)

Also, did you just get that link from me linking Cutem2it on IRC?


Wasn't even on when I posted that, came on couple of mins later.

munk

2008-09-29 02:15:35

I am the quantum physics master so both of you need to back off.


what was this thread about?

GoF

2008-09-29 04:51:15

From: munk
what was this thread about?



Schrödinger's cat
, AFAIK.

Sp0rky

2008-09-29 07:07:12

mariofan, the sheer notion that you think jagex are stupid enough to create client side banning, is ridiculous.

In all jagex's years of knowledge, they have actually realized that people can cheat, modify the client, create their own servers and generally fuck about with the files they created.

There is absolutely no way jagex bannings rely on client side cache files.

100% sure the bannings and decision to ban is all server side.

There perhaps, MAY be some information on your characters in local cache files which may form the outcome of a ban, but it's still highly unproven.

Honestly, I think if they were going to do this they would create the logs server side instead of clients having to upload the logs. Doesn't make sense to me, too risky.

More on this can be found at Vladamir's Duck

R0b0t1

2008-09-29 17:18:57

You could of least been a bit nicer when telling him off.

Esteban

2008-09-30 07:52:10

Having a topic posted in the members section does not ensure Jagex won't be reading it ;).

mariofan12

2008-09-30 19:35:00

this was just a theory that i observed, nothing else, PLEASE don't start a flaming war…

@esteban: i know, but i figured this was the safest place to post this.

Haxor

2008-10-03 19:37:42

This in fact happened to me also and having been noticing it. I had been autoing for a while now and deleting the cache files… and yes a cache file came back when i found out i was banned.

The strange thing was i was using a script for 4 hours. my account was also banned for 10days. This has happened on many of my other accounts, 10 day bans for deleting the cache and running scripts for small amounts of time. Maybe jagex bans you for deleting the cache??? im not sure.

Haxor

Zezi

2008-10-05 06:42:45

Please someone explain
Schrodingers cat pl0x :S
how the hell can it be alive and dead at the same time.
Explain yourselves.

That's still on topic …. :P

Bam Bam

2008-10-08 16:30:19

From: Haxor
This in fact happened to me also and having been noticing it. I had been autoing for a while now and deleting the cache files… and yes a cache file came back when i found out i was banned.

The strange thing was i was using a script for 4 hours. my account was also banned for 10days. This has happened on many of my other accounts, 10 day bans for deleting the cache and running scripts for small amounts of time. Maybe jagex bans you for deleting the cache??? im not sure.

Haxor

If that is the case then just auto unsigned. Which should protect you from the outcome of both theories.

Camaro'

2008-10-14 07:33:24

I dont care when my account gets banned. Too me im playing to get better at scar, not have more unbanned armys in runescape.

Nose Smasher

2009-02-26 00:08:32

From: mariofan12
they can't just randomly sign you out


Negative… Happened to me before… Auto-ed on (for arguments sake, lets say "Monday") then on "Thursday" I was playing legit, killing cows or something… Then BOOM! Logged out mid fight… Tried to log back in –> "Your account has been disabled" 10 day B4nz0rHammer ftl…

Interesting theory though…

[OffTopic] I think Jagex is IP watching me… lately ALL of my bans have been PERM! (I'm talking like between 8-10 accounts! all with 0 or 0.5 BlackMarks) even on my membs pker who had 0 BlackMarks! (-6$ ftl) any ideas? [/OffTopic]

Dervish

2009-02-26 02:53:48

Hmm gravedig nose smasher ?

Sir R. M8gic1an

2009-02-26 03:05:47

closed. make a new one if you want to re-discuss. we can be sure they'll be watching for how many times we miss each specific random now…

~RM