SRL Archive - Discussions & Debates

Phail?

In my opinion, SRL will never die because it is too large and too frequently updated.

Vote in the poll, and leave your thoughts as well.

I half agree with Voice. This is a ver strong community, but eventually it will die. Everything dies eventually.

it will eventually die because runescape will either get very advanced detection systems or they will completely redo their graphics or something…or maybe they will continue to be complete idiots and make lots of lame updates like they are doing now

SRL, like every other cheating community to ever exist, will eventually die. Obviously, when Runescape starts losing major popularity due to other games something like this will happen.

From: Cheesehunk
SRL, like every other cheating community to ever exist, will eventually die. Obviously, when Runescape starts losing major popularity due to other games something like this will happen.

Ditto

Everything lives, thrives and eventually dies. It's not worth thinking about the end as it is a long way away. Just enjoy the run and support the community :)

As Cheesehunk said, it will. The question is not if it dies, but when it dies.

We'll be here pretty much for as long as RuneScape is doing as good as at the moment…

I think SRL will die when Runescape dies…

But SCAR will live on! *muahahahaha*

From: Freddy1990
But SCAR will live on! *muahahahaha*

Lawl!

That is true, unless the master 2010 virus bug comes out and eats all your computers!!!

I think SRL will be around for as long as RS is, and if that time comes when RS is no longer around, we will find something else

bah our community isn't THAT big

I think it will die because me and my friend were on and this was like 2 months ago the server crashed and nobody could get on.

From: death12652
I think it will die because me and my friend were on and this was like 2 months ago the server crashed and nobody could get on.

That is just a web hosting problem, not SRL itself. That will continue to live till it is no longer worth the effort to cheat.

I don't know about "phail", but everything dies eventually

From: Hugolord
bah our community isn't THAT big

Still the biggest RS cheating community atm.

Everything dies. But rejoyce! We are still here. We are a buch of tough cookies. As long as we stay active and the community keeps on popping up with new talent and good ideas, we have a pretty good chance of staying alive as long as RS is around.

Maybe even in the future we even find ourselves a nice new game to focus on.

Oh, joy! Something to look forward to.

From: WT-Fakawi
Everything dies. But rejoyce! We are still here. We are a buch of tough cookies. As long as we stay active and the community keeps on popping up with new talent and good ideas, we have a pretty good chance of staying alive as long as RS is around.

Maybe even in the future we even find ourselves a nice new game to focus on.

There are games outside RS *faints* lol

This is true, as long as there is a need to cheat, or a purpose to fulfill in its doing, SRL should exist for a long time. I not for runescape anything game. Maybe move to WoW lol

From: pini3000
There are games outside RS *faints* lol

This is true, as long as there is a need to cheat, or a purpose to fulfill in its doing, SRL should exist for a long time. I not for runescape anything game. Maybe move to WoW lol

Does scar work with WoW? also, we are a bunch of cheap cheaters, so we would have to find another free game lol…

True lol, I am sure SCAR could work with WoW but as you said we need a free game. I am not shedding out $10+ a month!!

From: pini3000
True lol, I am sure SCAR could work with WoW but as you said we need a free game. I am not shedding out $10+ a month!!

Yeah i dont even pay for runescape members, PBP PINS FTW!!!

IP log you, reported to authories!

You are going down buster! Down da Rhymes!

Uhm..he's allowed to? If he wasn't, then they would've already caught him..

From: TheVoiceInYourHead
Uhm..he's allowed to? If he wasn't, then they would've already caught him..

*cough*RSBLACKMARKET*Cough* but its not against the law cuz its not stealng or anything :D… i dont think o_o

Na. Scar could just be used for another game. People are always interested in cheating.

From: Freddy1990
But SCAR will live on! *muahahahaha*

SCAR would be dead as a doornail without SRL, in fact, you would not even be developing it if it was not for SRL. :rolleyes:

I can't really say anything about "SRL" dying. Perhaps as a Community for leechers to leech RuneScape scripts, yes. We have a lot of programmers on this forum, which offers us much more possibilities than just writing 'scripts' for RuneScape. :)

From: Wizzup?
SCAR would be dead as a doornail without SRL, in fact, you would not even be developing it if it was not for SRL. :rolleyes:

That was a joke, am I right? Anyways, SRL needs SCAR to work, but SCAR doesn't need SRL to work (and yes, that's a fact!).

There is a lot of stuff scripted in SCAR which isn't in anyway related to RuneScape, and to be honest, I love the way it's getting more and more rid of it's reputation as an "RuneScape Macroing Program" which means it's getting more and more to the right direction, being an "Universal Cheat Development Environment". That means it is made to be used for RuneScape, but also for other games/stuff.

From: Janilabo
That was a joke, am I right? Anyways, SRL needs SCAR to work, but SCAR doesn't need SRL to work (and yes, that's a fact!).

There is a lot of stuff scripted in SCAR which isn't in anyway related to RuneScape, and to be honest, I love the way it's getting more and more rid of it's reputation as an "RuneScape Macroing Program" which means it's getting more and more to the right direction, being an "Universal Cheat Development Environment". That means it is made to be used for RuneScape, but also for other games/stuff.

SCAR would no longer exist/be popular without SRL, and that's a fact.
SCAR is still (only, or mainly) used in conjunction with SRL. It isn't really that universal. If you want to discuss this, let's do it in a different topic.

From: Wizzup?
SCAR would no longer exist/be popular without SRL, and that's a fact.
SCAR is still (only, or mainly) used in conjunction with SRL. It isn't really that universal. If you want to discuss this, let's do it in a different topic.

Maybe only in your mind… Yes, of course it wouldn't be anymore so popular, however, it would be still very strong.

Kaitnieks developed SCAR when SRL didn't exist, and actually any other include, so why wouldn't Freddy develop it? :) SCAR was still popular when there wasn't any includes for it… ..maybe you have forgot about that? Or you wasn't around the "scene" back then?

Not that I have anything at all against SRL, it's really good that SRL is here now and as long as possible, I love this community. I just had to stick to that fiction you made of SCAR. :stirthepot:

-Jani

Scar is useless NOW without SRL, it wasn't when it was first developed.

BACK ON TOPIC.

I think we will move on. Not die.

From: Janilabo
Maybe only in your mind… Yes, of course it wouldn't be anymore so popular, however, it would be still very strong.

Kaitnieks developed SCAR when SRL didn't exist, and actually any other include, so why wouldn't Freddy develop it? :) SCAR was still popular when there wasn't any includes for it… ..maybe you have forgot about that? Or you wasn't around the "scene" back then?

Not that I have anything at all against SRL, it's really good that SRL is here now and as long as possible, I love this community. I just had to stick to that fiction you made of SCAR. :stirthepot:

-Jani

Do you know why Freddy even started to Develop SCAR?
Do you think he would if there was no reason to do so? Do you think he would have been allowed to if SRL Leader's didn't ask Kaitnieks to let someone further develop SCAR?

After JageX killed Kaitnieks, SCAR had no home. For several months you could only download it from Dylock. (and perhaps one other site, too)
I don't say anything like SRL > SCAR or otherwise, that's just your own thought. SCAR would not be popular now, because it would not even have his own forums. Maybe a very small one at MITB, but that would be about it. It would also still be at version 2.03 (Freddy wouldn't even develop it, thus not have a forum for it either. I absolutely love how he improved SCAR now though…)

Fiction I made? It's funny how you imagine you are absolutely right, and insult me by saying what I said is just fiction, without actually providing any real arguments…

From: Nava2
I think we will move on. Not die.

Exactly. :)

SCAR stands for Shite Compared to AutoRune. Am I right?

Meaning so, it was developed as a RuneScape color macroer.

My opinion. Prove me wrong if you'd like.
I'll fight my words either way.

From: Wizzup?
Fiction I made? It's funny how you imagine you are absolutely right, and insult me by saying what I said is just fiction, without actually providing any real arguments…

Saying SCAR couldn't live without an include in my opinion [notice, I said my opinion!] IS fiction ("SCAR would be dead as a doornail without SRL" -Wizzup?), even though we are talking about very, VERY popular include.. Still, the point here is, SCAR wouldn't disappear anywhere.

Yes, of course I am really thankful to the SRL-Leaders about the great co-operating with Aivars about SCAR back then (especially to Fakawi!), and I am glad Aivars choosed Freddy, as he has done incredible job with SCAR (he and hes work is underrated at the moment, that's something I want to see getting changed as soon as possible, as supporting him will also help SRL in many ways, that certain people can't seem to understand).

I would like to repeat… I do NOT have anything against SRL, it's the other way around, I love this place and I hope this will be a live for a long time, even if RuneScape would go down.

Yeah man, I do remember the days when everything was almost near to dead (the time at Moparisthebest, silent days…), after Aivars closed Kaitnieks.com and informed that he is not gonna continue releasing new versions of SCAR, which was sometime before SRL was published.

-Jani

SCAR would disappear without SRL, because without SRL, there aren't enough functions/procedures to make much. Just my opinion.

Imagine SRL going down RIGHT NOW. Forget about any reason. Just imagine SRL dead and forums closed.

SCAR would lose its, virtually, only way of new persons.
Leechers would leave (No SRL = Barely any cheating)
Then the RuneScape-scripters would leave (No way of cheating = No reason to script)
SCAR loses it's currently biggest purpose.
Then, gradually, everybody will lose interest until Freddy stops.

So, SCAR would die if SRL died and wasn't remade.
I'm not saying that SRL is better than SCAR, or anything, because I believe both to be FANTASTIC.
SCAR would die without SRL
SRL (the include, not the community) would die instantly without SCAR.

Now, we're just fortunate enough that neither will ever die, right :D?

-Knives

We all know for a fact SRL will die eventually, it's just a matter of when.

I don't know for sure, but when RS gets so gay that we don't even want to auto it anymore, I think the day has come.

SRL the include may die, Scar may die, but I don't think the community will die. People may not auto but the community will probably be around yet.

From: TheVoiceInYourHead
SCAR would disappear without SRL, because without SRL, there aren't enough functions/procedures to make much. Just my opinion.

Erm? Aren't like at least 85% of SRL's functions/procedures made with SCAR, and also, do you realize that you are using SCAR to include SRL in it for you to cheat in RuneScape? So erm, what are you talking about… SRL's purpose is that scripting with SCAR to RuneScape would be easier/more enjoyable. It is resource for SCAR, not an actual part of it.

I would like to see what Fakawi said in this thread, SRL moving on to other games(/things) too, working on em with power of the community (the thing that is already around RuneScape related stuff right now).. :)

From: Janilabo
Erm? Aren't like at least 85% of SRL's functions/procedures made with SCAR, and also, do you realize that you are using SCAR to include SRL in it for you to cheat in RuneScape? So erm, what are you talking about… SRL's purpose is that scripting with SCAR to RuneScape would be easier/more enjoyable. It is resource for SCAR, not an actual part of it.

I would like to see what Fakawi said in this thread, SRL moving on to other games(/things) too, working on em with power of the community (the thing that is already around RuneScape related stuff right now).. :)

The problem is that you see (or saw, in your previous posts) SRL only as a Library to cheat RuneScape.
As far as I know this thread is not about the library, but about the community.

I believe SCAR was created to cheat with RuneScape. SRL came along later to assist it.

Am I correct?

From: TheVoiceInYourHead
I believe SCAR was created to cheat with RuneScape. SRL came along later to assist it.

Am I correct?

Yes, that should be correct (for both, the library and the community).

So in essence, SCAR wasn't popular until SRL came along.

Am I still correct?

From: TheVoiceInYourHead
So in essence, SCAR wasn't popular until SRL came along.

Am I still correct?

There was a "Battle" so to speak of different includes, SRL won…

From: sirlaughsalot
There was a "Battle" so to speak of different includes, SRL won…

Actually, all the includes died. Then SRL made one big include, using parts of the other include. SRL never battled.

From: Wizzup?
Actually, all the includes died. Then SRL made one big include, using parts of the other include. SRL never battled.

Oh okay, idk why but i love SRL history XD

From: TheVoiceInYourHead
So in essence, SCAR wasn't popular until SRL came along.

Am I still correct?

No you are not, it just wasn't this popular.

From: Janilabo
No you are not, it just wasn't this popular.

It wouldn't even have it's own forums, as I previously suggested, because no one would be developing it.

So, based on what Wizzup? has stated, it would not be popular without SRL.

From: Wizzup?
It wouldn't even have it's own forums, as I previously suggested, because no one would be developing it.

I was talking about the time when Kaitnieks.com was still around.

Well on to the topic. I think SRL will fail some day, but if many or most of us are still around before that, we'd probably predict its downfall and move on to another Java based game that SCAR(or another program similar) can auto.

New Include for different game, new site name (possible) etc.
Name change - probably, but the same people (and new ones).

/ponders Mechscape Include

SRL = |\|3\/3rd13

Lolz no. Everything dies, but we will prevail the longest. We have survived the wildy updates. If rs phails then we will find something else to macro on.

Good luck SRL!

Cut em2 it

Change is the key to survival, as long as SRL continues to change it will live until the end of time, so to further elaborate on your statement not if/ when I say not when/ changelessness.

It will fail sometimes. If Jackex hires some uber-programmer who finds a way to detect SMART, reflection dies. If Jackex finds a way to detect SCAR is running, we are not screwed, Freddy will revamp SCAR (I hope :p). Just SMART is a bit risky. And remember, new graphics came out, within a week SRL+SMART was fixed!

I agree with Wizzup?.

Right now the only noteworthy scar based community is SRL, if SRL ceased to exist then development would turn to bots like RSBot and other similar ones.

Scar is obviously needed for SRL but in the same way SRL is very important to SCAR's existence. SCAR is not merely designed for runescape, it has hundreds of functions that could be used for any type of game (a simple example, MoveMouseSmooth). Without SRL, SCAR would be a joke to detect for any game developer and if SCAR is detectable there is really no point using it.

As far as SRL dissapearing, not in the foreseeable future but with too many updates like the anti-RWT updates that runescape brought out, Runescape's popularity will wane and with it SRL.