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Chance, Choice or Fate


Waddo

2008-09-03 16:56:52

What do you believe in and why.

I'm not to sure I believe in that the choices you make dictates what will happen
but then again it could be your fate to make that decision.

chance meaning luck

Discuss

Narcle

2008-09-03 16:59:41

Ohh this is a good one.

I say that there's a 33% chance next poster believes in fate.

EvilChicken!

2008-09-03 18:43:00

Fate ~~ religion = fail. Both of them

Can't people just understand that no one else but themselves control their own lives and they make their own decisions.


It is up to you to make the most of your life ..

zertunami

2008-09-03 18:48:53

Personally I think its chance. You can't just choose, say, to have a billion dollars in the next 5 minutes. There is a small CHANCE that can happen for some reason, but deciding doesn't to it.

Fate ~~ religion = fail. Both of them


Correct:D

3Garrett3

2008-09-03 18:56:51

I'm saying a mix. There is no fate though. All of your choices will lead to a better chance of something happening. So if you choose to buy a lottery ticket, there is a bigger chance of you winning 5 billion dollars than if you sit around on your ass.

zertunami

2008-09-03 19:04:59

From: 3Garrett3
I'm saying a mix. There is no fate though. All of your choices will lead to a better chance of something happening. So if you choose to buy a lottery ticket, there is a bigger chance of you winning 5 billion dollars than if you sit around on your ass.


Probably more chance than choice. "What is the chance of you purchasing a lotto ticket friday?" Maybe by chance you choose to buy one.

Waddo

2008-09-03 20:55:58

yes but what if its your fate that you made that choice and EC! we all know religion is just stupid =p judiasm is the worst everything is a sin
except reading there book in a silly lamguage and praying

zertunami

2008-09-03 21:01:05

From: Waddo
yes but what if its your fate that you made that choice and EC! we all know religion is just stupid =p judiasm is the worst everything is a sin
except reading there book in a silly lamguage and praying


Yet there are still like millions of worshipers, even to the dreaded judiasm lol. Having religion makes this society feel like the Stone Age.

bullzeye95

2008-09-03 21:59:48

If fate means that you control nothing, I'm going with that. If it has to do with religion, I go with chances.

The reason I say that is because I don't think anything is really dynamic. Atoms react with atoms. That's all that's happening. (Feel free to correct me, but I believe I am correct)

EvilChicken!

2008-09-04 02:20:39

I'm really glad to see such bright and intelligent people here at SRL!
I am noticing that people are starting to realize more that we now are in the 21st century, and that they need to think better.

Sorry for slightly hijacking your thread here, but can someone explain me why having 'fantasy friends' of your own isn't accepted, while it is considered okay to worship them, build enormous buildings dedicated to them, sacrifice various objects to them, and even bury dead relatives in the name of that fantasy friend?

botmaster

2008-09-06 08:39:07

From: EvilChicken!
I'm really glad to see such bright and intelligent people here at SRL!
I am noticing that people are starting to realize more that we now are in the 21st century, and that they need to think better.

Sorry for slightly hijacking your thread here, but can someone explain me why having 'fantasy friends' of your own isn't accepted, while it is considered okay to worship them, build enormous buildings dedicated to them, sacrifice various objects to them, and even bury dead relatives in the name of that fantasy friend?


Yeah I can.

Some people are simply more skeptical of science than others. We don't choose to blindly believe in a system that was set up 300 years ago. Instead we make our own rules (even though, admittedly, some rules of the scientific method are usefull).

Can science prove/disprove aliens? No. Can science prove/disprove god? No. Can you prove/disprove to me that your balls are larger than your brain without EVIDENCE? Can you prove to me that the universe was created by the big bang? No. That's why it's called the big bang THEORY not the big bang RULE. It's a good theory, but there are exceptions to many of them. Newton's laws of gravity don't apply in curved time-space. So who knows, maybe the rules of the scientific method don't apply everywhere? I.e. God could be an excpetion? We don't know. That's why it's called a FAITH (oh and btw, doubt/questioning stuff is central to religion, believe it or not, and yes, I do believe in science being useful somtimes but not always).

Anyways, to get back on topic… I believe it's a mix of fate and choice. Some things are predestined to happen, and then it's your reaction to these events that matter and build/destroy you as a person. Pure fate would suck, i mean, you'd be a robot wandering a pre-destined path dying a pre-destined death. DAMN… That would suck.

R0b0t1

2008-09-06 19:41:17

Its choice that this thread was made, Fate it will make it useless, and Chance says to GTFO the internet.

Waddo

2008-09-07 08:32:18

who said it wasnt my fate to choose to make this thread

bullzeye95

2008-09-07 08:51:11

From: Waddo
who said it wasnt my fate to choose to make this thread


Who said you have the ability to choose at all? ;)

3Garrett3

2008-09-07 09:13:13

From: bullzeye95
Who said you have the ability to choose at all? ;)


I do.

He could have told his fate to GTFO, and he wanted to go look at porn instead. So therefore, he made the choice.

Waddo

2008-09-07 13:52:25

From: 3Garrett3
I do.

He could have told his fate to GTFO, and he wanted to go look at porn instead. So therefore, he made the choice.


Nope cos then it would have been my fate to watch porn instead

Ps did i mention i fort about creating this thread while i was having a shit =p

GoF

2008-09-10 12:31:21

AFAIK fate/faith are different things…?

IMO God goes for people that just want to believe they won't just simply DIE, instead they'll go to some happy funland in the clouds, or for people that fail for living (or just generally) and instead of realizing they did it themselves they can go "God did it. God controls my life, I don't! (some other random "higher power" will do well too) for example some 12 step programs for drug addicts, alcoholists etc. make them say exactly that a higher power is controlling them and it's not them taking the drugs/alcohol etc etc. That's pretty much what I think, but most religious people have religious parents that had religious parents and so on and so on and they've grown up with people telling them that god exist bla bla and so they believe in it. Anyhow I don't really even care what people believe in.

IMO it's pretty much random events that you can't really effect (chance?), but the choices you make heavily effect your life, unless it's your fate to drink + drive and die in a car crash, of course some events may seem like it's "fate" controlling it, but wtf sense does that make. If you make bad choices you'll have a bad life and pretty much the same with good ones (atleast most likely, but the chance part should effect that too, that is if I understood what waddo means correct).

Just my 2 cents.