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UPDATE: Septermber 9th, 2008: This guy in the post is not the real pwnaz0r. The real one is back. Please do not hold anything against the 'new' pwnaz0r please.


Well, I was an idiot and decided to trust Pwnaz0r with my RS main, simply because

1. I have known him for 2+ years
2. Has always been trust worthy and nice to me
3. Has special ranks on SRL
4. I was desprate for something to be completed on RS >_<
5. I am a nice guy =\

and it all turned out shitty for me.

http://pastebin.com/f22513379 = That's the convo log, all in text. Please do not read if curse words offend you. Attached is the convo screenies, and BTW, in the convo it has his name misspelled, simply because I set a custom MSN nickname for him and spelt it wrong there; that person who I was talking with is the real Pwnaz0r.

Attached is the screenies of our whole conversation today. Only thing edited was the username and pass of my RapeSc00n account.

Well, there goes my story, and my hard earned GP, and RS account [it took him about 30 minutes to "complete the puzzel box", the whole reason why I let him use my account, and in that time he ran an autobanner script probably], and also dropped 3.8+ mill out of my bank, and my firecape, which I loved so muchhh, and was my birthday present from Markus.. :x. Shitty losers like Pwnaz0r make people not trust each other. Let this be a lesson to all of you kids of, uhm, I guess "Don't trust people in life, ever". Stupid lesson. Gah. Fucking gay loser. Meh. Thankx for the vent, and admins, please handle this. There is the end for me. Lvl 101 down the drains to a shitèhead. Arghhhhhhhhh, there goes any plans whatsoever of multitasking school in 3 days with RS. No GP = No botting on that user. I am not asking for donations, but it would be very nice if someone would send me a few sara plates or something [ask Markus to transfer them to my account or something :p ], and hopefully he will also reearn me a firecape or something. But meh, it is simply pixels I guess. I was also the idiot in this for telling him my password I guess, but as I said, I trusted him. Trust is important in life.
[/ramble]

Bläh..!!



~ Hy71194.

Poor thing… :(

Well, this is… weird. :S

I doubt he'd care if he got banned on here.

Wait, didn't he use to be a member?

Damn man… im sorry! ive had shit like that happen to me before, thats why i dont do anything i dont feel 10000% safe with, if i get any sick feeling in my stumach, im out… damn though man that sucks, i can give you some GPz if you want? not much maybe a couple hundred k

Lets see here…..

Alright, pwnaz0r has been permanently banned. Sorry for your loss Hy…I loved my firecape when I played, too.

Harry do you have any other proof?

Such as IP's, Runescape screen shots etc?

Wow thats so sad…

From: Hy71194
I am not asking for donations, but it would be very nice if someone would send me a few sara plates or something [ask Markus to transfer them to my account or something :p.

I'll donate 2 sara plates to you harry as long as its Markus who does the trade as i have over 12m on this account and trust him.

edit: if my account is unlocked today which im pretty sure it will be

From: lardmaster
Wow thats so sad…





I'll donate a 2 sara plates to you harry as long as its Markus who does the trade as i have over 12m on this account and trust him.

Are you sure this isn't a scam though?

Back in sp0rk's vent server pwn seemed like a good guy when he was around. Are you sure his MSN wasn't hacked or something like that?

Btw, pwnaz0r = Clay right?

I agree this is quite out of the ordinary.

This ban was a bit hasty. This has not yet been properly discussed. The ban has been lifted for now.

Harry, give more proof

[QUOTE=Dan's The Man;457359]Are you sure this isn't a scam though?

im pretty sure it isnt but even so i have gained over 30 range levels with his fight caver which has saved me so much time so i'd gladly do it.

Psh, really Hy?… After I did MM for you like 3 times & did the puzzle manually, you went off to someone else? :mad:

From: Hobbit
I agree this is quite out of the ordinary.

This ban was a bit hasty. This has not yet been properly discussed. The ban has been lifted for now.

Harry, give more proof

What? Good one, give pwnaz0r a chance to get sensitive information and use it agaisnt us. You know what I mean. But tell me Hobbit, what extra proof is possibly needed? We have SCREENSHOTS of pwnaz0r ADMITTING to doing this to Hy. And also, what other proof could hy possibly have? He wasnt expecting this to happen so he would have no reason to screenshot the login screen. Don't think I didnt think the ban through :duh: :duh: Oh, and next time you decide to revert my decision (a banned action on every other forum ive been mod/admin at….) at least contact me first, or post in the topic I made in the mod section. Thanks.

I agree pwnaz0r's msn might of been hacked, but there is nothing to suggest it was. And the way he was talking, it points to being someone from srl, in which case they probably would of gotten access to pwnaz0r's srl account anyway, so it should be banned. I highly doubt it was hacked though, because: pwnaz0r has been inactive for a while and hasnt logged on to msn in ages, so unless he downloaded a keylogger before leaving srl and his password was stolen back then, it couldnt of happened. :\

From: The Claw
What? Good one, give pwnaz0r a chance to get sensitive information and use it agaisnt us. You know what I mean. But tell me Hobbit, what extra proof is possibly needed? We have SCREENSHOTS of pwnaz0r ADMITTING to doing this to Hy. And also, what other proof could hy possibly have? He wasnt expecting this to happen so he would have no reason to screenshot the login screen. Don't think I didnt think the ban through :duh: :duh: Oh, and next time you decide to revert my decision (a banned action on every other forum ive been mod/admin at….) at least contact me first, or post in the topic I made in the mod section. Thanks.

I agree pwnaz0r's msn might of been hacked, but there is nothing to suggest it was. And the way he was talking, it points to being someone from srl, in which case they probably would of gotten access to pwnaz0r's srl account anyway, so it should be banned. I highly doubt it was hacked though, because: pwnaz0r has been inactive for a while and hasnt logged on to msn in ages, so unless he downloaded a keylogger before leaving srl and his password was stolen back then, it couldnt of happened. :\

Grab some popcorn and read your pm's…. its a long one…

I would not have expected Pwnaz0r to do something like that, but well really you never know with people eh ??

Feeling sorry for you Hy –> :(

Psh, really Hy?… After I did MM for you like 3 times & did the puzzle manually, you went off to someone else?

You were outsexed, my friend.


Harry, did you get your account back?

well it seemed like he did or he wouldnt no wat was taken unless

he just guess that pwnzor took and droped all his stuff


allso hy
u cant really believe that we should be sorry for you.You trusted some1 and it blew up in your face its not our fault
get better friends

and after everthing youve done here bout time karma got you

From: HayHay89
well it seemed like he did or he wouldnt no wat was taken unless

he just guess that pwnzor took and droped all his stuff


allso hy
u cant really believe that we should be sorry for you.You trusted some1 and it blew up in your face its not our fault
get better friends

and after everthing youve done here bout time karma got you

Wow… heartless… Sure Hy has caused some strife, but he is still a member of our community and has been around for a while, us being a cheating community, we dont have a whole lot of supporters… and while he may be lieing, there is sufficient proof (in my opinion) to ban pwn….

Lol, never trust anyone, I've learned that ages ago ;)

Msn hacked and not notifying about it here, leading to scamming => pwnaz0rs fault. Also I don't see how hy wouldnt've noticed that it was some "fake pwnaz0r" if they've known each other for 2 years.

Well Freddy, thats because your 18 and Hy's 13. I'd give you an account but my people all got banned in the last ban wave, sorry Hy.:(

From: The Claw
What? Good one, give pwnaz0r a chance to get sensitive information and use it agaisnt us. You know what I mean. But tell me Hobbit, what extra proof is possibly needed? We have SCREENSHOTS of pwnaz0r ADMITTING to doing this to Hy. And also, what other proof could hy possibly have? He wasnt expecting this to happen so he would have no reason to screenshot the login screen. Don't think I didnt think the ban through :duh: :duh: Oh, and next time you decide to revert my decision (a banned action on every other forum ive been mod/admin at….) at least contact me first, or post in the topic I made in the mod section. Thanks.

I agree pwnaz0r's msn might of been hacked, but there is nothing to suggest it was. And the way he was talking, it points to being someone from srl, in which case they probably would of gotten access to pwnaz0r's srl account anyway, so it should be banned. I highly doubt it was hacked though, because: pwnaz0r has been inactive for a while and hasnt logged on to msn in ages, so unless he downloaded a keylogger before leaving srl and his password was stolen back then, it couldnt of happened. :\

Yes, I though he was legit and I was extravagant with joy that he solved it, because I tried for 3 hours to solve it with no luck. I also had [gimme the old "haha dialup n00b!!] lag when I logged in, and when it said loading, it said "Connection Lost - Attempting to Reenstablish" so it showed my IP at the top. And when I was talking with him, he sounded like the real, former pwnaz0r.

Thank you lardmaster, you don't have to, but if you wanna, I'd appreciate it. ^_^

Well, ya live and you learn I guess. :duh: Sorry Hobbit, but isn't the MSN screenshots enough proof that you would need with him admitting in it? Pwnz0r is the one who got me into coding anyways by writing like the 50 liner version of my Caver, and I worked and improved on it, and now I am a lot better at coding, thanks to him, so it is not like I'd wanna backstab him, if that's what you are going at Hobbit. Forward your PM to The Claw to me if you would, please.

From: Mr.Klean
Back in sp0rk's vent server pwn seemed like a good guy when he was around. Are you sure his MSN wasn't hacked or something like that?

Btw, pwnaz0r = Clay right?

Yep, He told me his name was Clay back when we use to PK on RS together.

Omfg so sorry to hear that harry :(

Btw Hobbit: Why would hy fake this? What would he earn from doing that?

Good luck with getting your stuff back, dude

This is the main reason why I hate account sharing. :mad:
(except if some friends ASK me to do some puzzles hehe)

An in real life friend hacked me when i just got around 300k and when i finally got it back he hacked me again… Now i hacked his account and he can't get it back :p

I like the last few lines of the convo tbh.

Hy71194 says:
do it please.
Pwnz0r says:
lol gf

Anyway:

I believe Pwnaz0r should be banned 'semi-perm', and, if he ever comes back, should provide proof that he was not the one in charge of Hy's account at the time everything was dropped, he will be re-admitted with a 'warned user' title (or something of the sort).

This makes the most sense, as if it wasn't him, he can still come back, but in the mean time he is marked as… er… dangerous?

never trust some one you don't know in real life, and aswell as knowing them IRL you need to be able to beat the living %^%^& outa them, if those requirements are met, you may trust that person XD.

other then that, i do feel sorry for HY, 3.8m non autoed and firecape is a hell of alot to loose. but i suppose it teaches a lesson, butter to happen in RS then in real life, you know?

Simply contact pwnz0r and give him 1 post to explain :)
Otherwise BAN HAMMER!

He would not care if he was banned from here. He has moved on in life.

Harry send a message to jagex asking for the ip logs of your account

Hy, i know we have a sketchy past together, but ill do the puzzle box for you :) im leet at them

Ban Ban Ban

I'm glad we like to forgo the "innocent until proven guilty" line around here and also we apparently don't let people defend themselves. I too know Clay very well and that does not sound anything like, granted I haven't talked to him in 5 months. I can't believe he was on and I missed him. Someone needs to contact him and let him know this is going on.

This is why encourage a bank pin.
Even tho I never give out my pass, only my bros know it but if they did something to my acct i would be the sh** out of them, every time I'm done playing for the day I just put my valuables in bank and log out.

From: Freddy1990
Lol, never trust anyone, I've learned that ages ago ;)

Words to your mom.

This is shocking. I know Clay would never do something like this. It sounds an awful lot like someone hacked his msn. I dont no about you guys but when i read that conversation, I felt like whoever it was TRIED to get banned. If it was Clay, would he really say "Happy Birthday" after dropping all of Hy's stuff? Doubt it. I know for a fact that Clay has a little brother. I dont want to jump to conclusions but it may be that he and his brother were in a fight and his brother walked in his room to find that "OMG he is logged on in msn!" and then do something like this. At certain times, I think I would do the same to get back at my brother lol.

I just wanted to put that possibility out there. Its very possible that someone else hacked his msn but I highly doubt the person you were talking to was Clay.

no no this must be a misunderstand, he never gets on his msn anymore since allooong time… someone has hacked/or a msn hack?

idk but omg he was so cool , i started cause him :O

omgggg that so cruel , pwnaz0r-clay? am i right …?

From: ~~Joker~~
pwnaz0r-clay? am i right …?

It's only been said 4 times already…

sorry i didnt read all posts…

omg this is sad

first starblaster now clay than whooo? lol this is a bad day?

Oh dude that sucks.

What point is there in dropping that stuff? It would be more fun to keep the account or something. lol jk I would never do something like that ;)

So many people on the forums are like "screw this Im done and going to flame!" << lol which actually sounds like me! :(

Oh BTW, don't ban him. I know what it feels like to get banned from this place! (dememberized that is) well he probably doesn't care as much as I do. If you do ban him, make it only a 6 month thing or something

Wow man, thats just sad. But, whats up with "Hy71194 says: go to moparisthebest / silabsoft and get the item codes, in the latest deobs they have not been changed". He wanted item codes? :S

From: kor
Wow man, thats just sad. But, whats up with "Hy71194 says: go to moparisthebest / silabsoft and get the item codes, in the latest deobs they have not been changed". He wanted item codes? :S

He claimed he was Jagex staff, so I was like "gimme the items back, the codes are there".

From: Macrosoft
This is shocking. I know Clay would never do something like this. It sounds an awful lot like someone hacked his msn. I dont no about you guys but when i read that conversation, I felt like whoever it was TRIED to get banned. If it was Clay, would he really say "Happy Birthday" after dropping all of Hy's stuff? Doubt it. I know for a fact that Clay has a little brother. I dont want to jump to conclusions but it may be that he and his brother were in a fight and his brother walked in his room to find that "OMG he is logged on in msn!" and then do something like this. At certain times, I think I would do the same to get back at my brother lol.

I just wanted to put that possibility out there. Its very possible that someone else hacked his msn but I highly doubt the person you were talking to was Clay.

If it was his little brother, he would not have had access to his MSN password, nor would have [likley] had known that RS was, and what to do, etc.
And even if Pwnaz0r was already logged into MSN, he sure as hell would have unbanned me after a day or so and said what happened; but it never did.

From: Waddo
Harry send a message to jagex asking for the ip logs of your account

I didn't, I couldn't find the address, and even if I did, I bet they wouldn't give them because that may violate user's privacy.

What does Pwnaz0r has to say to his defence?

From: WT-Fakawi
What does Pwnaz0r has to say to his defence?

Spelling mistake / Grammer mistake. Fawki loses.

Anyway. Afaik, he doesn't go on srl anymore, does he?

From: 3Garrett3
Spelling mistake / Grammer mistake. Fawki loses.

Anyway. Afaik, he doesn't go on srl anymore, does he?

He didn't mispell it :p

And he is quite inactive. Dunno if he even will say anything due to this, unless someone his some way to contact him IRL.

Sorry that he/she stole your account, because you have probably worked hard to earn everything.

Its just sometimes best to do things on your own rather than have someone else. Next time keep that kind of information out of reach from anyone even if it seems to be reasonable.

yeah he doesnt get on msn/srl as much like barely… its because his rl, track or w/e he use to do

From: 3Garrett3
Spelling mistake / Grammer mistake. Fawki loses.

Anyway. Afaik, he doesn't go on srl anymore, does he?

Grammar / Correcting Fawki. 3Garratt3 loses.

Also…

These accusation threads are always the same.

*Yawns*

They bore me.

Are we forgetting that it's Harry who just recently got back from what was supposed to be a perma ban on the IRC for being a complete and total dickwad?

From: Hy71194

If it was his little brother, he would not have had access to his MSN password, nor would have [likley] had known that RS was, and what to do, etc.
And even if Pwnaz0r was already logged into MSN, he sure as hell would have unbanned me after a day or so and said what happened; but it never did.

http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21653?t=23624

Made_In_China is his brother… I think he knows what SRL and RS is…

Just something about the conversation tells me it wasnt Clay. Its just… too mean.

I would like to hear Clay's explanation anyways.

i agree with macro, btw clay was a great pker him me=ownage.
lol he quitted rs too, when ever i did he did too i thinks

From: Jason2gs
Are we forgetting that it's Harry who just recently got back from what was supposed to be a perma ban on the IRC for being a complete and total dickwad?

IRC != Forums, or anything related on this subject. Kaithxbai.

http://www.srl-forums.com/forum/hey-t23624.html?t=23624

Made_In_China is his brother… I think he knows what SRL and RS is…

Just something about the conversation tells me it wasnt Clay. Its just… too mean.

I would like to hear Clay's explanation anyways.

Still, how would he get his passwords?

And me too, hopefully someone will get him here :/

last activity from pwnaz0r was today :O

Hobbit and I have found out that the person on the forums was someone from Amsterdam. When we were checking the times, it was around the time of the scam. So we can assume the logging into the forums and the MSN were the same person. That person is from Amsterdam. Clay lives in America, the east coast if I'm not mistaken. Hobbit has sent an e-mail to the ISP for confirmation/information.

Most Dutch IPs give Amsterdam as location (well mine gives Kamperland but even that one is 10 miles off), so not very accurate imo.

Anyone can say they're anyone, live anywhere, have this and that many siblings etc. and use proxies too. You never know. Hy already trusted him blindly and got scammed, and if he is infact the way that he acted towards Hy you shouldn't really 100% believe him as he may have lied before..

But on the other hand my best bet would be that he's done with SRL 100% and doesn't care at all and just decided to have a little fun with Hy. Nothing more.

From: Hy71194
IRC != Forums, or anything related on this subject. Kaithxbai.

Kaithxbai. Kaithxbai? Kind of a childish way to blow me off.

Anyways. Harry is still Harry, whether on the forums or on the IRC. IMO, Harry can still be a dickwad, whether on the forums, or on the IRC.

In my past experience with the two (Harry and Clay), I think I would opt to believe Clay over Harry. Despite the 'evidence'.

"Kaithxbai."

Im almost 98.9% sure Pwnaz0r aka Clay lives in America..

WHAT THE HELL. <— 'cuse foul language.

First of all, I am not perm banned.

And second of all, I have not even been on runescape in forever, I never had that conversation, and I would never do that to you. I don't ever play runescape anymore. Plus there can't be any real proof to ban me because it wasnt me!

EDIT:

Wow, ha I do have alot of friends here supporting me looking back over the post.

Honestly though look at me:

• Christian
• Never have scammed anyone before
• Honest and good poster, always helpful for 2 years
• We have shared accounts before (along time ago). Plus I did with other people too like Buckley.
• I don't play runescape nor have I for like 9 months. I couldn't care less about the game and I don't even have msn on this computer, which is the only computer now.

I Knew it , it couldnt be Clay! he quitted ages ago…


btw clay this is P1NKY

P1NKY! Hey my friend!

YEAH I KNOW RIGHT.

I'm glad so many people know it wasn't me but this really is truely me. Yes I do live on east coast (kinda) on U.S. and not Amsterdam. I would never do that to a friend even if I did quit. Changed Password now.

Glad this pwnaz0r is legit.

Stupid kid from Amsterdam. Pixel hungry stupid kids :3

From: pwnaz0r

Honestly though look at me:

• Christian

Ummmm….?

wtf clay…?
NO-ONE click that link!!!!!! just a warning!!!
which is below!

~P1nky~"WHY SO SERIOUS!?" says:
HEYYYYYY
~P1nky~"WHY SO SERIOUS!?" says:
i havent seen you for ages whyyy

You have just sent a nudge.

Clay says:
Come video/audio call with me http://www.meebo.com/app/clay_2_1421304202___app___/#u%3dd3st1ny%255fof%255fpur3s%2540hotmail%252ecom%26p%3dmsn%26m%3d
~P1nky~"WHY SO SERIOUS!?" says:
wtf/
~P1nky~"WHY SO SERIOUS!?" says:

Clay says:
accept itr

is that you?

NO-ONE click that link!!!!!! just a warning!!!
i asked you why , your like im playing a game, i said which , your respond was xbox live…>?

No that was me Joker ha. It was me and bobarkinator and we were trying out my new video thing on my computer. I was wondering why you didnt accept it. But still don't trust anyone on that name unless you pm me and its me.

haha what does the link do (I really wanna click it now that you said "No one click this link"), its kinda like going into an antique store and someone saying don't touch anything.

Ha it was a invitation to a video chat thing through meebo/MSN. but it wont work anymore, you can click if you like i guess haha.

EDIT:

and yeah i was playing xbl and didnt wanna type.

Ya, Clay and I were video chatting and then invited p1nky, I guess he thought it was a virus or something?

I knew it couldn't be Clay. The message seemed to…fake.

oh im sorry guys

i thought it was still hacked cause just was making sure, it was wierd lol you just send it to me randomnly lol no hi or anything :p
lol
well ill talk to you guys later im packing up(evacuating :S: hurricane IKE wish me luck)

From: ~~Joker~~
oh im sorry guys

i thought it was still hacked cause just was making sure, it was wierd lol you just send it to me randomnly lol no hi or anything :p
lol
well ill talk to you guys later im packing up(evacuating :S: hurricane IKE wish me luck)

That huge mofo is arriving on saturday/sunday. Why so serious?

By the way, I voted to ban me :)

I can say I'm Christian but still go out and kill someone.


And, also, proxies are still an option. I personally doubt it, though. Unless the IP of the scammer is traced back to a proxy.

I'm sorry you feel that way r0b0t.

However if you didn't notice, everyone knows that I did nothing.

From: pwnaz0r
I'm sorry you feel that way r0b0t.

However if you didn't notice, everyone knows that I did nothing.

Its just the way r0b0t1 is. Hes always late for everything :P.

… No, I'm still stating its a viable suggestion.

From: pwnaz0r
I'm sorry you feel that way r0b0t.

However if you didn't notice, everyone knows that I did nothing.

Small piece of advise, think things through completely before stating them, religion is very susceptible to arguing/ flamming ect… especially in such a blatant manner 'I couldn't of stolen the account, I'm Christian!' as robot stated you could say your Christian and go kill someone ect.. just because you are a member of a moral based faith doesn't give you more or less trustworthiness than that of the typical atheist. Try and respect everyone's equality, I've noticed this in a lot of your posts and normally it begins to get on other peoples nerves.

Just thought I'd be honest and point out one of your humanly mistakes, no-ones perfect.

Just my opinion Pwnaz0r…

-IceFire

From: IceFire908
Small piece of advise, think things through completely before stating them, religion is very susceptible to arguing/ flamming ect… especially in such a blatant manner 'I couldn't of stolen the account, I'm Christian!' as robot stated you could say your Christian and go kill someone ect.. just because you are a member of a moral based faith doesn't give you more or less trustworthiness than that of the typical atheist. Try and respect everyone's equality, I've noticed this in a lot of your posts and normally it begins to get on other peoples nerves.

Just thought I'd be honest and point out one of your humanly mistakes, no-ones perfect.

Just my opinion Pwnaz0r…

-IceFire

Dont wanna threadjack here but, being christian (or most other faiths) gives you a moral compass that people who practice whatever faith they are, helps prevent them from doing bad things,

for instance, and this may just be me, i see opportunities everywhere to steal things i want, but i cant bring myself to it even if i try, it just isnt in me, and that may just be me but i think that has a lot to do with me being a christian…

That is not to say that people of faith cannot do wrong, simply it is less likely as they are guided instead of atheists who while they may be good people dont have that same compass and feeling of reprocussions of sin, more of a worldly reprocussion…

Also on a topic related note, i am glad that pwn wasnt really the one who did that :D

A Christian who made this thread way back when:

http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24402

And is in the midst of making this one:

http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35270

From: IceFire908
Small piece of advise, think things through completely before stating them, religion is very susceptible to arguing/ flamming ect… especially in such a blatant manner 'I couldn't of stolen the account, I'm Christian!' as robot stated you could say your Christian and go kill someone ect.. just because you are a member of a moral based faith doesn't give you more or less trustworthiness than that of the typical atheist. Try and respect everyone's equality, I've noticed this in a lot of your posts and normally it begins to get on other peoples nerves.

Just thought I'd be honest and point out one of your humanly mistakes, no-ones perfect.

Just my opinion Pwnaz0r…

-IceFire

As you have made it painfully obvious, it can start a flame. However, you seem to forget the fact atheists have no standards for they operate purely on instinct. I have accountablilty. If you are truely a Christian, you will not kill someone, etc. That's one major fault with atheism. And do not respond to that on this thread, make a debate topic if you wish (do not reply on my new one, it will prolong the whole thing), but to touch lightly, if you hold and athiestic view, morals are revelevant. There is no standard for right and wrong. What's right for me, may not be right for you. Therefore, I could steal your wallet if I wanted, because its right for me. Rest my case. Social darwinism my friend.


And I hope it gets on people nerves, not in a bad way but a way where they will engage me and ask me about it. Do you think it gets on my nerves when every single person is against you, save a few on this forum, when I have gotten asked the same question a thousand times? When I get laughed at whenever I talk to people about this, beat them in the arguement and they still won't concede? When every reference to God I see on this forum is
"the false God" (especially on the thread about new electron smasher thing, where the guy said we should pray to the false God". I have every right to believe what I want to believe, and if you think that being a christian is irrelevant then fine, but I have a right to state my faith and if something as simple as the word "christian" gets on your nerves, no offense but deal with it. Its an online forum and I see evolutionist and atheist in millions of posts, it doesn't get on my nerves. What does get on my nerves is when people confront me like this.

Of course, sorry to all other that may not like this conversations direction, but I have learned to write what I feel and that is. In a way, it is a flame, but I did say any more should be another thread created in BBQ pit or handled by PM.

EDIT: Also, I could see you being mad if it was the only reason, as your sentence indicated. However that was the least powerful reason, as I knew it would be, among many others.

From: pwnaz0r
As you have made it painfully obvious, it can start a flame. However, you seem to forget the fact atheists have no standards for they operate purely on instinct. I have accountablilty. If you are truely a Christian, you will not kill someone, etc. That's one major fault with atheism. And do not respond to that on this thread, make a debate topic if you wish (do not reply on my new one, it will prolong the whole thing), but to touch lightly, if you hold and athiestic view, morals are revelevant. There is no standard for right and wrong. What's right for me, may not be right for you. Therefore, I could steal your wallet if I wanted, because its right for me. Rest my case. Social darwinism my friend.


And I hope it gets on people nerves, not in a bad way but a way where they will engage me and ask me about it. Do you think it gets on my nerves when every single person is against you, save a few on this forum, when I have gotten asked the same question a thousand times? When I get laughed at whenever I talk to people about this, beat them in the arguement and they still won't concede? When every reference to God I see on this forum is
"the false God" (especially on the thread about new electron smasher thing, where the guy said we should pray to the false God". I have every right to believe what I want to believe, and if you think that being a christian is irrelevant then fine, but I have a right to state my faith and if something as simple as the word "christian" gets on your nerves, no offense but deal with it. Its an online forum and I see evolutionist and atheist in millions of posts, it doesn't get on my nerves. What does get on my nerves is when people confront me like this.

Of course, sorry to all other that may not like this conversations direction, but I have learned to write what I feel and that is. In a way, it is a flame, but I did say any more should be another thread created in BBQ pit or handled by PM.

EDIT: Also, I could see you being mad if it was the only reason, as your sentence indicated. However that was the least powerful reason, as I knew it would be, among many others.

And yet, although it was a flame, it involved no profanity. Very, very mature, and well put. I congratulate you on being the bigger person here, even though you did put IceFire in his place.

I mean everything in the greatest respect that I said, however I have been reading over the thread. I have come to the conclusion that many people just jump on someone when there is not clear evidence. It's nothing against anyone, just human nature. This should be a lesson to us all not to trust and accept everything you see.

I say there is be no evidence because there can be none, because I did not do it. Of course I am reffering to before they found out the ip address was from Amersterdam. As I believe this thread is coming to a close soon, I am extremely glad to know I made such an impression on some people that would stick up for me even against the rest of the people (the people willing to converse, not just to vote). And to those of you who are in authority, I think you did handle the situation well, not to come off as it is my place to say this, just personal opinion. However, I did not appreciate the remarks of clearly biased responces :\

From: pwnaz0r
I mean everything in the greatest respect that I said, however I have been reading over the thread. I have come to the conclusion that many people just jump on someone when there is not clear evidence. It's nothing against anyone, just human nature. This should be a lesson to us all not to trust and accept everything you see.

I say there is be no evidence because there can be none, because I did not do it. Of course I am reffering to before they found out the ip address was from Amersterdam. As I believe this thread is coming to a close soon, I am extremely glad to know I made such an impression on some people that would stick up for me even against the rest of the people (the people willing to converse, not just to vote). And to those of you who are in authority, I think you did handle the situation well, not to come off as it is my place to say this, just personal opinion. However, I did not appreciate the remarks of clearly biased responces :\

I knew that someone had hacked you to by completely honest. Like, I honestly knew that someone had logged into your account. They only did it once to my knowledge, I told them not to do it again, and I don't think that they did. I knew that they had hacked the account. I do not know what they found or took from the site. I know they wont distribute it anywhere, they are pretty trustworthy that way.

I never knew your msn (if it was your real msn) was hacked though. For that I am sorry, I would have alerted someone if I knew the extent of the hacking. I also have no idea how they recieved the password. One of their RL friends did something to my knowledge. Apparently someone else has been hacked, I think it was a mod. I don't know for sure. Just to let the admins know.

I truely respect your maturity pwnaz0r. :)

Thanks it means alot, however I don't know anyone on here in real life and no one there would know my password. My brother doesn't know it, my parents don't etc.

Well, I'm just glad to see that another SRL member hasn't falled from grace. Too many have been doing that, as of late.

thats brutal man, atleast ur not on ur third 100+ main for failing at macroing like me :/
Maybe its time to try some skilling bots such as wc or fishing being that u have nothing to lose really

From: pwnaz0r
Thanks it means alot, however I don't know anyone on here in real life and no one there would know my password. My brother doesn't know it, my parents don't etc.

I know. I would suggest scanning your computer and such though for any keyloggers perhaps, maybe a trojan. I don't know how it was hacked, but I actually know it was.

Sorry for jumping to conclusions. Tell your brother Im sorry.

I think this should be closed… It is resolved

Well it was pretty harsh wat he did, but, you should know not to give out ur pass and stuff to someone you have never met in RL even if u think you know them- like he said he taught you a lesson, but man i really do feel for you.:(

EDIT by Wizz: Closed.