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Freddy1990

2008-08-17 05:11:19

Hello,

Most of you have probably noticed the news in SCAR lately…

Ever since the beginning SCAR has had a pretty undetailed and crappy manual… Now, people sometimes complain about that, but I don't have the time to create a detailed one myself… However, there are loads of very experienced scripters amongst you who have loads of experience with these functions. There for I started the open documenting project in an attempt to create a self-sustaining SCAR documentation that is written by SCAR's users. If you would like to help with this, it would be very much appreciated. The manual is part of the Freddy1990.com Wiki. You will need to PM me on my forums and request a Wiki Writer title to be able to edit it though (to protect against vandalism).

Now, you can also help in another way… After SCAR 3.20 is released there won't be many new versions anymore because I'm planning to finally quit the 3.xx series and start developing SCAR 4.0. I made the plans for SCAR 4.0 quite a while back, almost a year now, even started coding, but I bumped into a problem… SCAR 4.0 is supposed to feature a completely new and improved user interface which is built up out of pay-components which will greatly improve the user experience. Now, I spend loads of my free time developing SCAR, so I'm sorry, but buying these components myself really isn't an option… So I hope that donations will be sufficient to purchase these components… Also with sufficient donations I'll also be throwing in an auto-updater as I'll be able to use the donations to pay part of my site as well so I don't need people to go there every time to download SCAR and click ads anymore… When you donate while logged into your forum account the donation will be registered to that account and you will receive a Donator title on the forums, as well as your donated amount will be displayed there. Once the system is entirely finished (at like 85% atm) there will also be a top 10 donator list on the donate page. Currently the donate page already holds the goals list which shows the current donating goals, at the moment only 1 component is listed there, it shows a progress bar to indicate how close we are to getting sufficient donations to purchase it. Also most goals will show a link to a page listing some of the main features that they will provide the user with. You can find the donations page here. Be sure to check out the current goal's features, maybe that will convince you to pitch in a little. :) (Also thanks to Janilabo who has already donated $80)

Greetz from your friendly neighborhood SCAR developer.

ShowerThoughts

2008-08-17 05:16:51

Great post, Freddy.

Ehm, you mean writing a new manual like when you are in scar and press f1?

Freddy1990

2008-08-17 05:17:56

From: Hermpie
Great post, Freddy.

Ehm, you mean writing a new manual like when you are in scar and press f1?


The idea is to write an online manual. Once that's somewhat in decent shape I can possibly write a parser that will take parts of it to turn into a new offline manual.

ShowerThoughts

2008-08-17 05:19:45

From: Freddy1990
The idea is to write an online manual. Once that's somewhat in decent shape I can possibly write a parser that will take parts of it to turn into a new offline manual.


K, also including SRL & Smart? If it's only scar would you rewrite all those functions, procedure's more detailed?

Daniel

2008-08-17 05:26:57

Well too bad i can't login to the Wiki :mad:

Freddy1990

2008-08-17 05:31:54

From: Hermpie
K, also including SRL & Smart? If it's only scar would you rewrite all those functions, procedure's more detailed?


Only about SCAR of course, it's a SCAR manual…

Shuttleu

2008-08-17 06:13:18

well i sent a pm on your forum but idk if you have recieved it because it doesnt appear in the outbox :s

~shut

BobboHobbo

2008-08-17 08:38:52

Ehh, Id ruther not write a manual i suck hard at explaining. But might aswell start something and someone can fix my beutiful writing :P.

80$ :O, If i had an Credit/bank card thingy i would donate, but havent got a job yet need to wait another… 5-6 months or something :).

randy marsh

2008-08-17 10:03:47

Image if 50k people donated 5 dollars?!

50,000 x 5= 250,000 dollars
or

125,000 pounds roughly!

sirlaughsalot

2008-08-17 10:38:07

yeah… i want to donate too but i dont have a paypal for one (some weird shit happened with my brothers debit) and im too young for a legit one, and i aint got a job…could i find someone who would pay your paypal (or whatever) directly and say its on behalf of me?

Edit:
W0000000T 600th post!

Freddy1990

2008-08-17 11:49:10

From: djcheater
Image if 50k people donated 5 dollars?!

Well, if they did I wouldn't be posting this :)

Shuttleu

2008-08-18 20:07:21

freddy where abouts on the wiki do we edit to write about the function and procedures built in scar? (the scar manual)
you know the page with a list of functions and procedures where we edit to write about the definitions

~shut

Freddy1990

2008-08-19 10:24:49

From: Shuttleu
freddy where abouts on the wiki do we edit to write about the function and procedures built in scar? (the scar manual)
you know the page with a list of functions and procedures where we edit to write about the definitions

~shut


How and where is left up to the editors..

Mr.Klean

2008-08-19 15:28:52

[offtopic]Freddy, kick ass new sig. Alyx is win![/offtopic]

Dan Cardin

2008-08-19 17:58:19

do you have to get everything from that page? or can you get each individual component as you get the money for it (to keep you busy :p)?
i hope thats not the only different thing from the form editor :p.

if i had online money i'd donate, but i doubt my parents would give me their credit card to do so :(.

Freddy1990

2008-08-20 10:46:57

From: Mr.Klean
[offtopic]Freddy, kick ass new sig. Alyx is win![/offtopic]

It's home-made :) And yeah Alyx <3

From: Dan Cardin
do you have to get everything from that page? or can you get each individual component as you get the money for it (to keep you busy :p)?
i hope thats not the only different thing from the form editor :p.

if i had online money i'd donate, but i doubt my parents would give me their credit card to do so :(.


Everything on that page is included in the $560, it has to be payed in total, but it's far from all features, for example, the form editor will look and work pretty much exactly like in Delphi.NET, it will also have a new and better inspector and such… There's gonna be more goals on the page though, but atm that's the most important one, I'm also looking into having a new icon designed and such, kinda searching for the best price on that… I'll also be donating from ad money myself…

Janilabo

2008-08-20 20:45:20

From: Freddy1990
(Also thanks to Janilabo who has already donated $80)
Not a problem at all, it's a really small thing compared to what you have done for all of us past these months from your spare time, too bad not so many over here in SRL realize that…

People, SCAR Scripters & Users, there is so much more Freddy could add in SCAR, if you just could support him even a bit with donating some money - it shouldn't be a problem for most of us. Like Freddy said, buying the components and other stuff for SCAR from his pockets is not going to be an option, which of course is understandable.

I found these small examples of what we COULD get with the component (that is a current goal in Freddy1990.com donations page) to script/form editor, just imagine people… Together we can reach the goal, it's not that far away.

Like I said, Freddy has done so much already for us… ..so guys and gals, don't you think now it is time for us to help him with SCAR Divi project? I am ready to support the project as much as I can.

Think about it people.

-Janilabo

mastaraymond

2008-08-21 01:32:02

Get a job for moneyz. ;)

I will throw a look at the online manual when I'm at home. Hope to see lots of donations!

Janilabo

2008-08-21 07:08:28

From: mastaraymond
Hope to see lots of donations!
Same here.. I just donated another $80, the current goal is getting closer aaaaand closer. :p

mastaraymond

2008-08-21 21:16:52

From: Janilabo
Same here.. I just donated another $80, the current goal is getting closer aaaaand closer. :p

I aint 18 yet so I cannot donate through paypal.. :rolleyes:

MylesMadness

2008-08-22 10:29:28

From: Janilabo
Same here.. I just donated another $80, the current goal is getting closer aaaaand closer. :p
Anyone else think he should get site supporter? 160 dollars is a huge amount, and its going to scar, which will in turn help srl.

lordsaturn

2008-08-23 01:39:08

I donated a bit myself. :)

Thanks Freddy, for your hard work and dedication.

Freddy1990

2008-08-23 05:40:13

From: lordsaturn
I donated a bit myself. :)

Thanks Freddy, for your hard work and dedication.


<3

Now we wait… It will take at least the first goal for me to get started on SCAR 4, though preferably the second one would be achieved as well (I might be able to pinch $70 off of the second one with an academic license, but I'll keep it at the max total and try to get academic when it's sufficient, the system will compensate when i enter the final spent amount, that's why there's a +/- infront of the totals)

Daniel

2008-08-23 23:07:29

From: Freddy1990
<3

Now we wait… It will take at least the first goal for me to get started on SCAR 4, though preferably the second one would be achieved as well (I might be able to pinch $70 off of the second one with an academic license, but I'll keep it at the max total and try to get academic when it's sufficient, the system will compensate when i enter the final spent amount, that's why there's a +/- infront of the totals)

What are you trying to buy? Delphi 2007? If so, i have a copy you could use :D

Freddy1990

2008-08-24 05:37:09

[QUOTE=Dan's The Man;453662]What are you trying to buy? Delphi 2007? If so, i have a copy you could use :D[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't even consider it, and have you even looked at the donate page?

EDIT:
A first goal has been reached! http://freddy1990.com/donate.php
Mainly thanks to Janilabo of course, but lordsaturn pitched in as well :) I hope more will follow, and if you can't donate, I'll be donating ad money that I don't need for paying my server as well.

Dan Cardin

2008-08-24 19:58:36

would it be possible to add more of the links to component descriptions, because 3 of them are the same name, and i'd like to know what's being added :).

Freddy1990

2008-08-25 03:50:25

From: Dan Cardin
would it be possible to add more of the links to component descriptions, because 3 of them are the same name, and i'd like to know what's being added :).


Yea, I will, I haven't had time to create the pages yet

Daniel

2008-08-25 06:03:51

From: Freddy1990
I wouldn't even consider it, and have you even looked at the donate page?

Yeah, i see: Script Editor & Form Designer. Wouldn't that be Delphi? BTW, i can donate if people use my AW Surveys referral. Since i had received money from them and i had used that money to donate to SRL (before i even knew you were accepting donations) ;).

Freddy1990

2008-08-25 06:57:52

[QUOTE=Dan's The Man;454301]Yeah, i see: Script Editor & Form Designer. Wouldn't that be Delphi? BTW, i can donate if people use my AW Surveys referral. Since i had received money from them and i had used that money to donate to SRL (before i even knew you were accepting donations) ;).

They're GUI components for SCAR, they have nothing to do with Delphi 2007, it just looks like the ones used in there, they were modeled after Delphi 2005 afaik

ZephyrsFury

2008-08-25 08:12:24

I started the wikipage for the SCAR manual here:
http://freddy1990.com/wiki/index.php?title=SCAR_Manual

Done the first dozen or so for you… got another 100 or so left.

Nava2

2008-08-25 11:06:03

Ugh, Anyway to pay by cash? Or Certapay or something?

I wanna donate $40 CAD… :(

Freddy1990

2008-08-25 12:14:46

From: Nava2
Ugh, Anyway to pay by cash? Or Certapay or something?

I wanna donate $40 CAD… :(


I can only take paypal payments, any other online money account is useless since everything uses either credit card or paypal =/

Negaal

2008-08-25 18:10:47

Fuck Janilabo, hes rich, I would donate if I would be have shitload of money, tbh, I'm collecting money for external hard drive doh..

I'm atm looking up my e-gold account, but reviving login e-mail usually takes like … long, very long sometimes… and looks like thistime it ain't gona get into my inbox in 15 mins, something wrong with e-gold mail service imo..

So do you got e-gold account(yeah, i know you wrote something about accepting paypal) But if you got e-gold acc, you can have all what's on it..maybe few cents maybe few bucks..

Freddy1990

2008-08-26 03:50:09

From: Negaal
Fuck Janilabo, hes rich, I would donate if I would be have shitload of money, tbh, I'm collecting money for external hard drive doh..

I'm atm looking up my e-gold account, but reviving login e-mail usually takes like … long, very long sometimes… and looks like thistime it ain't gona get into my inbox in 15 mins, something wrong with e-gold mail service imo..

So do you got e-gold account(yeah, i know you wrote something about accepting paypal) But if you got e-gold acc, you can have all what's on it..maybe few cents maybe few bucks..


Well, I doubt Janilabo is as rich as you claim, he's just committed to helping me with SCAR… And is is possible to transfer e-gold to paypal? Because I can't buy these components with e-gold…

Janilabo

2008-09-06 20:59:12

From: Freddy1990
From: Negaal
Fuck Janilabo, hes rich, I would donate if I would be have shitload of money, tbh, I'm collecting money for external hard drive doh..
Well, I doubt Janilabo is as rich as you claim, he's just committed to helping me with SCAR…

Yeah, I am not that rich at all (I am below average..), like Freddy said, I am just trying to help. ..and Negaal, you don't need shitload of money for donating, every amount helps to get closer to goals.

Is this thread being ignored - somehow I have a feeling it is? Come on SCAR scripters, wake up.. With your help/support we could get all these great features, that would make SCAR scripting even more enjoyable!

Also notice the nice Wiki Freddy made for us, it still needs a lot of SCAR-based stuff. :)

sirlaughsalot

2008-09-06 21:17:03

I wish there was an alternative way of donating (such as gp) but i guess this isnt possible… also i read the history of SCAR in the wiki, idk why i love it :D

Freddy1990

2008-09-08 14:15:43

Well, you may donate all the gps you want, but I can't do anything with them…

Markus

2008-09-08 15:59:16

Sell them?

Freddy1990

2008-09-09 14:29:41

From: Markus
Sell them?


Aside from the fact that I wouldn't know how, to who and for how much… It's rather messy…

GoF

2008-09-09 14:34:41

From: Freddy1990
Aside from the fact that I wouldn't know how, to who and for how much… It's rather messy…


Just approach little kids on dark streets and say "hey.. kid.. come over here.. you wanna buy some good stuff, huh? Where else you gonna get gpz this cheap? huh? so you buying or not?" etc.

????

Profit.

sirlaughsalot

2008-09-11 14:50:56

From: GoF
Just approach little kids on dark streets and say "hey.. kid.. come over here.. you wanna buy some good stuff, huh? Where else you gonna get gpz this cheap? huh? so you buying or not?" etc.

????

Profit.


exactly lul, i guess ill just get someone from sythe or something to donate in my name…

Freddy1990

2008-09-11 17:51:10

From: sirlaughsalot
exactly lul, i guess ill just get someone from sythe or something to donate in my name…


Well, if you donate as a guest, I can always link the donation to your account afterwards if it's rly necessary…

Andyz55

2008-10-23 20:58:42

Im only 14 and im gonna donate some money off my own credit card. I've got one thats for teenagers but it works on the internet.
Btw, If you donate some money, then donate some more later, will the site supporter thing update itself to show the total amount of money you have donated?
Thanks
-Andy

Freddy1990

2008-10-24 18:34:03

From: Andyz55
Im only 14 and im gonna donate some money off my own credit card. I've got one thats for teenagers but it works on the internet.
Btw, If you donate some money, then donate some more later, will the site supporter thing update itself to show the total amount of money you have donated?
Thanks
-Andy


Yea, it displays the total amount you've donated so far, on the forums there's also certain titles, given depending on how much you've already donated…

Andyz55

2008-10-26 21:11:41

Ok cool. Thanks Freddy. Im gonna donate as soon as I get some money put on my card.

nrb33

2009-09-22 22:51:26

Nice :P can't wait till it's finished.

Dynamite

2009-09-22 22:54:35

Umm, 1 year gravedig.
Please try to read the date before you post.

T~M

Markus

2009-09-22 23:28:55

Well it's a sticky. Freddy: do you still plan on doing anything with this, or can this be unstuck+closed?

Dan Cardin

2009-09-23 05:54:21

I would hope that this thread being bumped might attract some more people's interest in actually making this work.

Andy

2010-08-02 17:11:38

Donate like is down, and as I don't read Belgium? I can't find one.

Is this development project still on the go?

(digging for a cause)

Freddy1990

2010-08-09 18:46:19

From: Andy
Donate like is down, and as I don't read Belgium? I can't find one.

Is this development project still on the go?

(digging for a cause)


The site has been remodeled since this thread was posted, the donation page moved here: http://freddy1990.com/index.php?page=donate
However, the entire roadmap for SCAR's development has also changed. SCAR 3.25 is the next in line for release, it brings more stability and support for Windows Vista/7 to the program. After that SCAR 3.50 will follow to rework the concept of the program without taking backwards compatibility in mind to improve the program overall. SCAR 4 is still planned after those, but that's still a bit away. However, in the meanwhile I've acquired all of the components I require for all of these releases, be it from donations or from the awesome companies that decided to sponsor my development by giving me licenses to their products. Of course donations are always welcome though, but at this time I don't really require any aside for possibly server upkeep.

noidea

2010-08-09 19:36:10

I dont see why you've got this whole road map to be honest. What we are really looking forward to is SCAR 4, which I believe is cross-platform. Yes yes, SCAR is not meant for SRL any more etc.. I think you should skip SCAR 3.5, which just sounds like a rewrite, and go to SCAR 4.. Not every one enjoys using Windows.