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Amethlion -A Scar Based ORPG By Solemn Wishes


solemn wishes

2008-08-07 15:25:34


Amethlion Forums - http://amethlion.freehostia.com/forum


Amethlion is a game currently under development using the infamous Scar Engine. Scar is a scriptable colour clicking bot currently under development by Freddy1990, check out his site at - http://freddy1990.com/. The founder of scar however, Kaitnieks set the building blocks for game creation within scar and with some tweaks by Freddy1990 the possibilitys to code game's within this amazing engine has reached ever new heights.


Amethlion Currenty supports the following features -



A fully working, smooth 12 directional movement system

-Incorperated music player

The music player is an ease free player with 2 main buttons and a display window, foward arrow is a shuffle arrow and the backwards arrow corrosponds to the previouse track played. The song title playing is diplayed clearly

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- 'World Chat' system -

Anyone logged into the game Can communicate
with eachother while they play through the use of a type of chat-room

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- Combat detection system -

Agro (agression) is generated by your level
and determines the radias in which the monster will attack

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-Auth / Login system -

The login system currently provides server status
to imform if the server is ONLINE/OFFLINE aswell as downloaded news
to keep you up-to-date with current progressions and important new's

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- Blood System -

Whilste in combat you may get damaged, to simulate this there is
currently 9 random splotches of blood that will appear on the floor of the battleground showing clearly that you are wounded

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- Inventory system -

Now completed meaning that any items picked up or
obtained during gameplay will appear directly in your inventory box.

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- User Display -

The players username is displayed accuratly above their heads

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- layers -
Amethlion currently supports three main types of layers, for example - if
a player were to go behind a tree he would no longer be visable untill they move from under the tree.

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- Fast map switching -

The loading tme between changing maps is immensly fast
completing in a matter of milliseconds

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- object collions! -

object collision is fully incorporated meaning that you cannot walk through
solid objects and othet items of that sort

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This is the current Login Screen. Nothing is final here but a mockup of what it may end up looking like. Everything you see here is functional from the online status to the news which is downloaded from my server,



An Image of one of the current tutorial maps, here you will learn how to attack and defend yourself's, go easy on the chickens :D




An example of the blood Effect, Our player is in combat and an Outlaw is attacking him, he's loosing Health Fast and bleeding all over the place


Here is an example of the 'Three' layers that i mentioned earlier. The player is hiding behind the tree. This could be great for some tpyes of gameplay.




So thats the update for now. Plese Check out the forums at -

http://amethlion.freehostia.com/forum

and post a few messages and comment the game ect ect. As a game we need a community to grow and improve. I really hope you can be part of that.


Edits And Updates -

My forums have decided to commit suicide. Im out holiday at the moment and really dont have the time to do antyhing at the moment. please spread the word.


I was excited about showing these new screenies off, kinda sucks the forums went down but here they are!



paperdolling! yes its in it;s early stages of implimentation in the game. Makes your character feel much more 'yours' and really ad's to the detail of the game.

As i said early stages so please dont judge the detail as much as the concept.



Weather Emitters! i've added 2 current weather settings that change in certain regions and in random intervals in the day. THey also have follow-pu sounds that go to them.


It's snowing :)



here is a neak preview of the current development of the character creation window thats in the making. Nothing is final here and just a mockup of what the final product should look like.


the scar noob

2008-08-07 15:30:13

A SCAR Game, cool!

We get the fiels when we register at your site, I gues?:rolleyes:

-Tsn.

P1nky

2008-08-07 15:35:23

Woah looks more leet than RS? dude nice job!!!! can get really popular :O?



wont let me register it says page cant find when i sumbit it…


edit:
nvm

Scaper

2008-08-07 15:35:55

i registered but i dont see anywere to get the files for the game ??

ShowerThoughts

2008-08-07 15:36:25

Amazing, wow!

the scar noob

2008-08-07 15:38:18

From: P1NKY
Woah looks more leet than RS? dude nice job!!!! can get really popular :O?



wont let me register it says page cant find when i sumbit it…


Actually kinda looks like RS1, the inv up your screen:p

Now that I see the pics, I realize it's pretty leet:p

-Tsn.

solemn wishes

2008-08-07 15:38:52

From: Scaper
i registered but i dont see anywere to get the files for the game ??


Oh im sorry i did not mean to cause any confusion. The game is currently approaching beta stage but not quite there yet. Im showing the project now so that i can get a few interested members to begin the testing stages.

Please remember this project is VERY BIG and alot of work is yet to be done. Thankyou for registering to the forums. Kinda imputt i am looking for.

Any questions feel free to ask away!

ShowerThoughts

2008-08-07 15:39:11

You should add health bars :)

noidea

2008-08-07 15:48:53

WOW, this looks even better than RS1, this is amazing. And you made this with SCAR? That must be pushing SCAR to new limits and hights! Good job Solem:D

noidea

P1nky

2008-08-07 16:08:31

thats what i said lol way better lookn than rs classic? righhtttt well the RSHD is a bit higher but still, a 1 man job done better :O lol so this is like the Old Rs but advanced lol :)

hamish909

2008-08-07 16:13:46

Really, Really, nice job there I had no idea you could do stuff like that in SCAR with this and Reflection SCAR and SRL are going to new highs, congratulations Solemn Wishes. Just one question, what does ORPG stand for?

EvilChicken!

2008-08-07 16:18:56

Solemn, you are sick.


Seriously.
Get yourself checked.


I'm shaking and I'm VERY close to typing "OMGOGMOGDM!!§!!121|1" a million times.


Holy mother of bucket.
Building a MMORPG in SCAR would be like building a sandcastle with a teaspoon. omfgg. < O_O >

And, I also registered.

Krim0407

2008-08-07 16:34:34

Looks really nice. Can't wait to try it.

jose89

2008-08-07 16:35:14

Reminds me of Zelda a Link to the Past.

Looks Grr-rrr-eat!

Claymore

2008-08-07 16:53:51

Wow, they should make tutors on how to make games ;p probably take a million days to learn.

You know the irony here? What if we made an SCAR bot on Amethlion

P1nky

2008-08-07 16:57:19

lol death your right, my brother said omg i wanna learn how to script for this game! i was like lol, its made in scar , hes like "huh?" l0l i was like nvm tell you later :P

Waddo

2008-08-07 18:12:42

wtf i didnt relise scar was capable it atualy looks better than rsc

sign me up for beta tests


edit:wait if its in scar it must be 0000's of lines of code and must be easily editable unless its done as plugin

P1nky

2008-08-07 19:45:06

Btw i made a sig who ever wants to put in there sig,

heres the code:

[URL=http://"http://amethlion.freehostia.com/forum/index.php"]//IMAGE TAGShttp://i35.tinypic.com/53o4kl.gif//IMAGE TAGS[/URL]

Nexhou

2008-08-08 14:10:22

I would wana be in beta! this is great, but is it possible to say whom are working with you to do this? like lets just say u and hermpie xD but for real :p

ShowerThoughts

2008-08-08 14:13:17

From: Nexhou
I would wana be in beta! this is great, but is it possible to say whom are working with you to do this? like lets just say u and hermpie xD but for real :p


I made it, he is lying.

ffs damn Newb you Nexhou :p

P1nky

2008-08-08 15:58:34

lol hes working all solo atm, hes doing a great job , working solo heh?

but i heard Freddy is helping him on the forum buisness and stuff :)
keep it up dudes

Vampspiro

2008-08-08 21:31:24

if this one day surpasses the fame of runescape (through millions of updates) you will truelly be a legend beyond measures not saying that you not already a legend!! fucking amazzzzzing !!
good job dude …AWESOME JOB ! ill love to try the beta :)

solemn wishes

2008-08-08 22:56:52

From: Vampsprio
if this one day surpasses the fame of runescape (through millions of updates) you will truelly be a legend beyond measures not saying that you not already a legend!! fucking amazzzzzing !!
good job dude …AWESOME JOB ! ill love to try the beta :)



Hehe thankyou for the kind words. I knew there would be alot of camparison to runescape as many of you play runescape but mine will never be as good as runescape is.

There is however advantages of somone working a little closer to home creating a game, this being that i can read your idea's and suggestions and work from them. I've made great progress recently with a few new features that im sure is going to supprise you all. I will be posting them up within the next few days.

In the mean-time if you guys could continue to keep visiting the forums and registering it will make the process alot faster. Im moving hosts as we speak so try and prevent them nasty connection speeds my current host is giving me.

P1nky

2008-08-08 23:11:37

yay new hosts :P

yeah, dude but idc how rs is i mean the graphics killed the rsc :P

Queso

2008-08-09 00:17:41

Looks very nice. The sprites n stuff look familiar. Are they from some kind of RPG maker? Do you plan to get a few 2D artists to change it up? I personally know a great pixel artist that could possibly help you out (he'd be a freshman in college going into comp science, may be able to help you out).

I just ask that you don't overdo with skills like RS. Firemaking? …ugh. Keep it like WoW, where it's more quest/raid oriented, and you'll draw an older, more reliable crowd of players (see WoW's profits if you don't believe me on the reliable part ;) ).

Good luck on your game, keep chuggin along!

P1nky

2008-08-09 00:23:39

wait but how will your friend help if solemn is making this from Scar :O?

sk8terbitu

2008-08-09 00:48:58

wow neat looks like a orpg game creator client but i bet im rong nice job!
im gussing you use your mouse?? or arrow keys?

turbobk

2008-08-09 01:06:16

Whoa!! Unbelieveable.. I didn't even think SCAR was capable of this..
But you have proved me wrong, GOOD WORK! :)

mastaraymond

2008-08-09 01:27:38

Cool stuff =D. GJ!

Always wanted to make an online game. But I never figured howto do the server side code :<.

Eagerly looking forward to see the rendering code.

lethalpunk

2008-08-09 06:48:41

Serouisly amazing job o.0

I hope it gets really popular.

n3ss3s

2008-08-09 06:52:49

A Meth Lion? :p

Just kidding, great job you've done there :)

TheSantaMan

2008-08-09 07:22:03

Wow solemn that's extremely impressive. Very cool to see. Do we get any beta perks for testing ;)

Waddo

2008-08-09 07:37:10

STFU saying this wont be better than rs its automatically better than runescape as your one of us you have the same kind of feelings about jagex as we do. . . you listen to our ideas that piont alone means the game will be great

is it all based on scar divi if it is that's good cos then leechers wont need to complain that SRL isnt working.

Negaal

2008-08-09 07:39:11

Looks nice, waiting for stable release ;)

sk8terbitu

2008-08-09 09:33:35

un isent scar scripting pascal?? and i thought pascal was unstabel please tell me what you wrote ur server in?

Queso

2008-08-09 10:18:30

From: P1NKY
wait but how will your friend help if solemn is making this from Scar :O?


I said he's a good 2D artist, meaning he can make images for solemn to implement into his game. Or, he could take the time to quickly learn basic pascal/SCAR. I believe he knows a good bit of C and Java like I do.

Ron

2008-08-09 12:01:25

Cool! Looks very promising!

solemn wishes

2008-08-11 10:56:05

From: Ron
Cool! Looks very promising!


Thankyou for the kind words ron. And thx for the registering on the forums!

I will be updating the topic soon with new information. Stuck on a little bug at the moment which has slowed my progress but im sure i'll be able to figure it out soon.

For all of you who have registered and posted thankyou. Also i am looking for a mapper to help out. If you have any mapping experience be sure to head over to the thread i made and have a look!

ShowerThoughts

2008-08-11 13:15:02

From: solemn wishes
Thankyou for the kind words ron. And thx for the registering on the forums!

I will be updating the topic soon with new information. Stuck on a little bug at the moment which has slowed my progress but im sure i'll be able to figure it out soon.

For all of you who have registered and posted thankyou. Also i am looking for a mapper to help out. If you have any mapping experience be sure to head over to the thread i made and have a look!


Is there anyway I can help you with your game, with C#?


I think you use many images, some kind of image editor?

jose89

2008-08-11 19:31:24

Ok, I registered on the forums.

Hey when do you think we can register to try out the game =D

P1nky

2008-08-12 04:12:05

estimate time is: 3 weeks now

Gu3st...

2008-08-12 05:26:38

I've registred. I may be a mapper if you want to. Idk how it will work but I hope you will teach me - if I become one.

P1nky

2008-08-12 21:38:11

the forums dont work atm, indeed?

HyperSecret

2008-08-13 01:41:56

its like a zelda in scar, damn nice solemn wishes

P1nky

2008-08-13 01:51:42

well "Link" is half naked hope "ZELDA" is too?

ahhaha jk!!! lmfao yeah your like 3rd 1 saying it looks kinda like zelda in scar :P

red eyes 20

2008-08-13 02:25:03

OMG nice graphics(i'm serious)
never knew scar was that awesome, i knew it WAS awesome but not THAT awesome, that is.

Waddo

2008-08-13 03:57:51

Hurry up release an alpha version:p

get feed back get beta version faster

get more feedback get V1.0

Dan Cardin

2008-08-13 10:42:00

i think that i would like it better (no offense cuz its still ridiculous) if you made the people shorter and more like zelda. Or at least the dude that you're playing as.

solemn wishes

2008-08-20 10:26:44

My forums have decided to commit suicide. Im out holiday at the moment and really dont have the time to do antyhing at the moment. please spread the word.


I was excited about showing these new screenies off, kinda sucks the forums went down but here they are!



paperdolling! yes its in it;s early stages of implimentation in the game. Makes your character feel much more 'yours' and really ad's to the detail of the game.

As i said early stages so please dont judge the detail as much as the concept.



Weather Emitters! i've added 2 current weather settings that change in certain regions and in random intervals in the day. THey also have follow-pu sounds that go to them.


It's snowing :)



here is a neak preview of the current development of the character creation window thats in the making. Nothing is final here and just a mockup of what the final product should look like.


C & C allways welcome. Ill add these images to the main post aswell. Sorry about the forums!

Dan Cardin

2008-08-20 11:39:31

i dont think i'd have it do any snowing at a regular time. just have it snow in the winter :p. Just the fact that you're going into enough detail to make weather is awesome :).

red eyes 20

2008-08-29 15:46:54

I'm wondering if this ever has the chance of becoming popular though, because it's not a average game where you download the .exe and install, you'll have to get scar first, i think general non-scar users would not want to do that, but hey, I'd be happy to play it =p

P1nky

2008-08-30 02:16:39

From: Dan Cardin
i dont think i'd have it do any snowing at a regular time. just have it snow in the winter :p. Just the fact that you're going into enough detail to make weather is awesome :).


lol i was the 1 who gave that idea ;) yay you and me :p lol

and @red
yeah i think solemn said somthing about making it into a webclient or exe

i forgot idk if im mistaken correct me if i am:redface:

Shady?

2008-08-30 02:33:54

He was talking about converting it into an Exe, i remember i suggested him the Sythe's .exe maker.

Daniel

2008-08-30 04:06:15

X10-Hosting is a bitch when it comes to forums, i know ;)

Naum

2008-08-30 04:28:20

Wow Solemn that was amazing. I'm currently learning canvases from your tutorial

Freddy1990

2008-08-30 04:43:29

[QUOTE=Dan's The Man;456819]X10-Hosting is a bitch when it comes to forums, i know ;)[/QUOTE]

Well, he's got Freddy-Hosting for forums now :p That should improve things

Daniel

2008-08-30 04:51:28

From: Freddy1990
Well, he's got Freddy-Hosting for forums now :p That should improve things

:o I already set up one for him :'( About 1 week ago :'(

Freddy1990

2008-08-30 05:21:36

[QUOTE=Dan's The Man;456836]:o I already set up one for him :'( About 1 week ago :'(

/me wins :)

Naike

2008-08-30 05:25:30

Nieaaaaaace game :O

I didnt even know this was possible :O

*Back to tut island*

500 post! :D

Daniel

2008-08-30 05:27:29

From: Freddy1990
/me wins :)

/me fails :'(

Is he using SMF? For i am using IPB.

/me Wins :D

Firebrand

2008-08-30 05:30:27

Hmm very interesting, Are you thinking of implement 2.5D graphics into the game at later stages. It would take it that step further. Oh and is it a grinding game, Heh scripts shouldn't be to hard to write then eh ??

Freddy1990

2008-08-30 05:31:27

[QUOTE=Dan's The Man;456846]/me fails :'(

Is he using SMF? For i am using IPB.

/me Wins :D

You use IPB unlicensed, you get reported and you phail!

/me wins ;)

Daniel

2008-08-30 20:25:43

From: Freddy1990
You use IPB unlicensed, you get reported and you phail!

/me wins ;)

It's a paid license. I bought a while ago with a gift-card.

/me definitaly wins :f:
I betcha you're going to call me phail or fail since i spelt definetly wrong.

MylesMadness

2008-08-30 20:54:59

/Dan's The Man's server hates him. Can you say resource hog?

Freddy1990

2008-08-31 04:31:01

[QUOTE=Dan's The Man;457257]It's a paid license. I bought a while ago with a gift-card.

/me definitaly wins :f:
I betcha you're going to call me phail or fail since i spelt definetly wrong.

Hmm, cool, still, I got solemn :p
Ultrawin!

From: Mylesmadness
/Dan's The Man's server hates him. Can you say resource hog?

I'm running a VPS :)
Extreme win <3

Daniel

2008-08-31 04:33:29

From: Freddy1990
Hmm, cool, still, I got solemn :p
Ultrawin!


I'm running a VPS :)
Extreme win <3

/me compared to Freddy = Fail :'(

ShowerThoughts

2008-09-04 15:59:06

The forum is down? i went to the old link said it would redirect but then after 5 secs 404 page not found =/

osmm

2008-10-14 00:11:50

Solemn Wishes, when you become amazingly popular, just remember us, the little guys.

Good luck in your quest to build an RPG. Really, I hope you do make this thing come to life.
http://www.amethlion.x10hosting.com/forum did not load, otherwise I'd join and try to join you on the journy.

Janilabo

2008-10-14 00:32:29

http://freddy1990.com/amethlion/ - Freddy is nowadays hosting the Amethlion forum for Solemn. :)

Solemn hasn't been around since August 30, though..

Bad Processor

2008-12-07 11:50:04

The graphics are pretty awesome, and the weather idea is unique ;) Hope the development goes well. Best of luck.

Just thought, couldn't people mod the client to send, for instance, a message to the server telling server to give the player lots of cash?

EDIT: Just made a huge chain of elastic bands.

– BadProcessor

noidea

2008-12-07 12:31:12

From: BadProcessor
The graphics are pretty awesome, and the weather idea is unique ;) Hope the development goes well. Best of luck.

Just thought, couldn't people mod the client to send, for instalce, a message to the server telling server to give the player lots of cash?

EDIT: Just made a huge chain of elastic bands.

– BadProcessor


Not if Solemn get the script Obed

MylesMadness

2008-12-09 15:11:06

From: noidea
Not if Solemn get the script Obed
If he obs it im not playing. I need to see the code

Dan Cardin

2008-12-09 15:50:56

it would be quite silly to ob it, and it would be a lot easier and safer to put anti-cheating stuff in the online code, so i doubt he'll need to/even consider it.

NiCbaZ

2008-12-09 16:15:03

From: Mylesmadness
If he obs it im not playing. I need to see the code


If he puts online of he will obb it, if he doesnt that would be very stupid…

Dan Cardin

2008-12-09 17:54:29

From: NiCbaZ
If he puts online of he will obb it, if he doesnt that would be very stupid…


why?

noidea

2008-12-09 18:29:19

I wouldn't blame him for obbing it… Its his work, and there is always the f*cked in the head kid that will plagerize his work…

P1nky

2008-12-10 00:04:38

hmm i wonder what happen to this project, ima have to talk to Solemn soon :p

was excited

StrikerX

2008-12-10 01:03:11

^^

Pl0x Do, looks to good to throw away ;)

Nindustries

2008-12-10 01:10:25

Looks like damn RSC coming back :)

mastaraymond

2008-12-10 10:15:19

Even if he obs it, you can still easily crack the game.. Just like you can crack practically any flash game

Dan Cardin

2008-12-10 14:46:04

but those people…arent nice :(.

And i doubt there will be much important code in the actual SCAR script that pertains to anything in the actual game(meaning getting items and such. I think most of the code of the worthfulness of stuff and whatnot will be online…not hardcoded into the script. (if that makes any sense))

mastaraymond

2008-12-11 10:59:43

From: Dan Cardin
but those people…arent nice :(.

And i doubt there will be much important code in the actual SCAR script that pertains to anything in the actual game(meaning getting items and such. I think most of the code of the worthfulness of stuff and whatnot will be online…not hardcoded into the script. (if that makes any sense))

Just like runescapeeeee

Mutant Squirrle

2008-12-11 11:45:20

Very impressive nice job

lordtivo

2008-12-12 02:17:55

hmm..a scar game, sounds like fun.

solemn wishes

2009-02-21 20:15:22

Really sorry about the grave-dig guys, pelase forgive me! lol this is just a little update from me

Firstly sorry about the lack of updates!

The game is still under development(yes still) and its slowly getting there. For those of havnt seen I put together a small concept video some time back to demonstrate that the game achurly does something-

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZZPjV-W4sY


We now have a domain! head over to the forums and reigster, id really appreciate it -

http://www.amethlion.com/

The game is currently undergoing quite alot of work in re-building the foundations, alot of what was allready done im re-doing now that I understand how small things effect performance.

This is an image of the game in its current state -




Would love to see some more of you join the forums.

P1nky

2009-02-21 20:19:56

From: solemn wishes
Really sorry about the grave-dig guys, pelase forgive me! lol this is just a little update from me

Firstly sorry about the lack of updates!

The game is still under development(yes still) and its slowly getting there. For those of havnt seen I put together a small concept video some time back to demonstrate that the game achurly does something-

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZZPjV-W4sY


We now have a domain! head over to the forums and reigster, id really appreciate it -

http://www.amethlion.com/

The game is currently undergoing quite alot of work in re-building the foundations, alot of what was allready done im re-doing now that I understand how small things effect performance.

This is an image of the game in its current state -




Would love to see some more of you join the forums.

finnalllly foool!!!

expect me to active once AGAIN!

solemn wishes

2009-02-22 05:47:47

From: ~~Joker~~
finnalllly foool!!!

expect me to active once AGAIN!


haha good to hear m8. I got some really nice stuff in the making at the moment, currently implementing the first set of spells to the game and they are looking pretteh nicee!

Tickyy

2009-02-22 05:59:20

looks nice, so where is the game… would like to test it :)

ShowerThoughts

2009-02-22 06:38:17

Ehm, you know when you're doing very very great on this game you will regret that you made it in scar? no offence to freddy but, in the end scar is to slow right?

marpis

2009-02-22 06:45:46

oh my god dude, that looks awesome! i must try that asap when i get home!
is there any way to convert the script into a stand-alone executable?

ShowerThoughts

2009-02-22 06:49:31

From: marpis
oh my god dude, that looks awesome! i must try that asap when i get home!
is there any way to convert the script into a stand-alone executable?


He didn't release it yet, He could maybe but he is using scar so he haves to code alot more to do it into a .exe

Dan Cardin

2009-02-22 11:04:12

From: Hermpie
Ehm, you know when you're doing very very great on this game you will regret that you made it in scar? no offence to freddy but, in the end scar is to slow right?


in the end SCAR is only as slow as your coding skills make it. and i think its much more of an accomplishment to make it in SCAR, because of some of its lackings. .exe is over rated

noidea

2009-02-22 11:43:24

He could use a program like SCAR Packer to turn it into an .exe?

MylesMadness

2009-02-22 11:46:40

From: Dan Cardin
in the end SCAR is only as slow as your coding skills make it. and i think its much more of an accomplishment to make it in SCAR, because of some of its lackings. .exe is over rated
Make color finding in scar faster. Oh? You can't without using plugins? I guess your coding skills are bad.

Coding skills can't make everything faster.

ShowerThoughts

2009-02-22 11:56:17

From: Mylesmadness
Make color finding in scar faster. Oh? You can't without using plugins? I guess your coding skills are bad.

Coding skills can't make everything faster.


Exactly where I was talking about ;)

Dan Cardin

2009-02-22 12:31:15

i dont think he's planning on usign any color finding with his game. For the most part, his coding can making the way he does his drawing and whatnot faster.

MylesMadness

2009-02-22 18:40:09

From: Dan Cardin
i dont think he's planning on usign any color finding with his game. For the most part, his coding can making the way he does his drawing and whatnot faster.
You were saying scar in general, you should have said Amethlion

Dan Cardin

2009-02-22 19:03:38

From: Mylesmadness
You were saying scar in general, you should have said Amethlion

its kind of obvious what i was talking about since i was saying it in response to Hermpie's statement that he would regret making it in SCAR because he said SCAR was slow.

Smartzkid

2009-02-22 19:54:24

/Quotes the last 10 comments

Wow guys. Grow up.

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Amazing piece of work solemn! Definitely looking forward to playing it :)

MylesMadness

2009-02-22 20:24:32

From: Dan Cardin
its kind of obvious what i was talking about since i was saying it in response to Hermpie's statement that he would regret making it in SCAR because he said SCAR was slow.
Yes, he said scar was slow, so you countered saying scar was not slow if you can code well. I said somethings can't be made faster.

solemn wishes

2009-02-24 14:52:34

From: Dan Cardin
i dont think he's planning on usign any color finding with his game. For the most part, his coding can making the way he does his drawing and whatnot faster.


I dont understand hehe, what exactly would i use color finding for? everything on the screen is my content that i placed there…i have no reason to find it hehe.

Scar started out slow but what with Freddeh's updates and me starting to better understand the code ive got it to an optimun atm where it compiles and runs smooth. On my forums i posted a small peice of text about stress testing, without lagg i can draw up-to or around 12 seperate moving objects easily on a map without lagg.

Wizzup?

2009-02-24 15:18:05

From: solemn wishes
I dont understand hehe, what exactly would i use color finding for? everything on the screen is my content that i placed there…i have no reason to find it hehe.

Scar started out slow but what with Freddeh's updates and me starting to better understand the code ive got it to an optimun atm where it compiles and runs smooth. On my forums i posted a small peice of text about stress testing, without lagg i can draw up-to or around 12 seperate moving objects easily on a map without lagg.


You should consider compiling it + using OpenGL, makes it a lot faster…

Dan Cardin

2009-02-24 15:54:19

From: Wizzup?
You should consider compiling it + using OpenGL, makes it a lot faster…

thats not the point! i dont see why everyone is so worried about getting him to switch from SCAR. He made it in SCAR, so its obviously going to be in SCAR. Unless he says he wants a port of it, then i dont see why you need to suggest it.

Janilabo

2009-02-24 17:47:51

Dan Cardin has made some good points in this thread!

SCAR is very slow compared to Programming Languages, yeah… Pretty much everyone knows that, but that's definitely not something which should stop people from using it. I mean, it may be slow, but it's quite fun and challengive to make things with it. There is always solutions available, for (most of) the problems, you just have to figure em out. Problems are made to be solved. ;)

I am currently working on couple quite huge projects in SCAR, and in future I am probably going to convert em to Delphi (and maybe after that to C/C++), but as I haven't really had anykind of problems with SCAR, I am going to keep on using it.

I am really glad solemn is working on this game project in SCAR. :p I just hope he will be sharing the SCAR part of it, without obfuscating/encrypting it (for others to learn). :)

Wizzup?

2009-02-24 17:54:57

From: Janilabo
Dan Cardin has made some good points in this thread!

SCAR is very slow compared to Programming Languages, yeah… Pretty much everyone knows that, but that's definitely not something which should stop people from using it. I mean, it may be slow, but it's quite fun and challengive to make things with it. There is always solutions available, for (most of) the problems, you just have to figure em out. Problems are made to be solved. ;)

I am currently working on couple quite huge projects in SCAR, and in future I am probably going to convert em to Delphi (and maybe after that to C/C++), but as I haven't really had anykind of problems with SCAR, I am going to keep on using it.

I am really glad solemn is working on this game project in SCAR. :p I just hope he will be sharing the SCAR part of it, without obfuscating/encrypting it (for others to learn). :)


If you're in for the challenge, might as well make it in Brainfuck or some sort.
Anyway, if you want to make a successful game, there is no way you'll even get to make it popular, nor anywhere near a good speed for the game.
If you want real graphics, you'll still want to use Hardware Accelerated graphics. Eg, GLSL shaders and such…

Janilabo

2009-02-24 18:10:46

Wizzup, I have noticed how negative you are always about SCAR, yet you are still using it for making scripts to RuneScape, how come?

Couldn't you just code your very own program/bot and auto with it..? See, you could also make it much faster than what SCAR is, as you could make it compile your code. Right? So, why are you still stuck with SCAR? :confused:

*the ball is thrown back at you*

Colluci

2009-02-24 18:19:53

From: Janilabo
Wizzup, I have noticed how negative you are always about SCAR, yet you are still using it for making scripts to RuneScape, how come?

Couldn't you just code your very own program/bot and auto with it..? See, you could also make it much faster than what SCAR is, as you could make it compile your code. Right? So, why are you still stuck with SCAR? :confused:

*the ball is thrown back at you*


SCAR is win.

Smartzkid

2009-02-24 18:46:59

you could always use a plugin for drawing?

Wizzup?

2009-02-24 18:48:54

From: Janilabo
Wizzup, I have noticed how negative you are always about SCAR, yet you are still using it for making scripts to RuneScape, how come?

Couldn't you just code your very own program/bot and auto with it..? See, you could also make it much faster than what SCAR is, as you could make it compile your code. Right? So, why are you still stuck with SCAR? :confused:

*the ball is thrown back at you*


I don't see how I bashed SCAR in any way…
Yes, I make scripts for RuneScape/Neopets, how am I "stuck" with SCAR?
I like making scripts that program RuneScape, I like to mess in SCAR a bit. It just isn't practical for real applications…
It works fine for what it is supposed to do, I just don't see how you will want to make a good (that is: fast; playable, easily extended) game in it.

Dan Cardin

2009-02-25 14:14:22

From: Wizzup?
It works fine for what it is supposed to do, I just don't see how you will want to make a good (that is: fast; playable, easily extended) game in it.

maybe thats exactly why he wants to make it in SCAR.

EDIT: and to make it clearer and lessen the chance that Wizzup will post the pedantic post that he wouldve posted (as proof by IRC), ill say that i meant he would want to prove that kind of thinking wrong and to make a good game despite the disadvantages.

Laur€ns

2009-03-03 11:22:04

What about making a SCAR bot for this? ^^

infested999

2009-03-03 15:16:36

So since this is a SCAR game does this mean that to run it i will have to start up SCAR each time?

ShowerThoughts

2009-03-03 15:25:29

From: infested999
So since this is a SCAR game does this mean that to run it i will have to start up SCAR each time?


Yep, you need to start scar everytime.

Nava2

2009-03-03 15:34:55

Kind of a pain since SCAR uses a lot of resources, either way. Its super impressive what you are doing.

rikdegraaff

2009-03-03 16:03:28

It looks nice, so the only thing I want to say is, GREAT JOB ;)

infested999

2009-03-03 16:07:39

You should have just made it a separate .exe so you don't have to use scar.

solemn wishes

2009-03-07 15:28:24

From: infested999
You should have just made it a separate .exe so you don't have to use scar.


There are methods to do that but it's beside the point. Its a game made with scar, at the moment the biggest game ever made in scar. I could probly replicate it in half the time using any of the free 2d mmorpg game engines on the internet but thats not the point of me making this.

It's a nice challenge, scar has the building blocks for 2d game creation and slowly its comming together.

WT-Fakawi

2009-03-07 17:29:58

Solemn! I am still in complete an utter awe. I have never ever seen anything like this been done in Scar. It's mindbogglingly crazy even thinking about trying to make something as big as this in Scar, let alone do it! And you did it! You actually did it. You will be a big gamedeveloper in 10 years, I am sure. I remember you three years ago, struggling to master Pascal, and look at you now!


One word, just one word:

Wow!


If you need any help, just yell!

noidea

2009-03-07 19:59:15

Look who's proud :rolleyes:

:p

SubiN

2011-07-02 09:09:12

sorry for gravedig but what happend to this project?

Echo_

2011-07-02 09:34:55

From: SubiN
sorry for gravedig but what happend to this project?


Something I've been wondering as well, it would be awesome to see something like this written for Simba in the future.

Frement

2011-07-02 09:53:44

Simply amazing!