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Reflection might be detectible..


gothguydante

2008-08-06 20:11:33

i'm not saying it is i'm just saying that that is the only difference i just started using scripts with it and i got my first black mark for using third party software.. and well i watch tv and keep an eye on my comp wile it's autoing to keep from failing randoms or logging out.. so has anyone else had this problem..

TViYH

2008-08-06 20:14:25

Lol. That's just because you used a bad or outdated script =].

Nexhou

2008-08-06 20:14:54

Acctualy this guy might be onto something, my gay account wich I use scripts on has been perm banned.. whilst using reflection that I made myself, maybe it was my bad code (duh!!!) or it was the reflection but.. idk

Method

2008-08-06 20:15:17

From: gothguydante
i'm not saying it is i'm just saying that that is the only difference i just started using scripts with it and i got my first black mark for using third party software.. and well i watch tv and keep an eye on my comp wile it's autoing to keep from failing randoms or logging out.. so has anyone else had this problem..


It's not detectable at all. All it does is read information from the client. It doesn't modify or alter the game's code in any way. What can be detectable, are the scripts that use it. Without sufficient antiban (in the form of multiple paths, etc.), reflection scripts are probably more detectable than SRL-only scripts.

Nexhou

2008-08-06 20:18:27

From: Method
It's not detectable at all. All it does is read information from the client. It doesn't modify or alter the game's code in any way. What can be detectable, are the scripts that use it. Without sufficient antiban (in the form of multiple paths, etc.), reflection scripts are probably more detectable than SRL-only scripts.


I dont get the point of Reflection in the first place.. we have SMART, why get Reflection thats 100% same thing?

TViYH

2008-08-06 20:18:47

I am still confident that it is the sole responsibility of the script that bans you.

I disagree with most of SRL's conspiracies that JaGex records mouse movements, angle movements, etc. =].

Method

2008-08-06 20:24:09

From: Nexhou
I dont get the point of Reflection in the first place.. we have SMART, why get Reflection thats 100% same thing?


SMART by itself only loads the client, nothing else. Using SMART alone doesn't allow us to walk using tiles, check skills without going to the stats gametab, check our player's animation, etc. like reflection does.

gothguydante

2008-08-06 20:25:39

well i do believe it's my fault and not the scripter.. but i only use the best script and not just any script so it's not like it was a lack of antiban in the script it had to be something that left a footprint on there server or something…

TViYH

2008-08-06 20:32:55

Or, you're making a mountain out of an anthill. It was an outdated or bad script.

gothguydante

2008-08-06 20:34:59

how can something be outdated that just came out i mean reflection just came to use maybe a week ago and yes hooks are out dated but i got this 2 days ago.. when they were up to date…

Timer

2008-08-06 20:53:16

Unless its really detectable (really really detectable, Like clicking tiles with no random tiles and 2 pixles…), you don't get banned till about a month after using the script… I've been using it on my armys and main, its not bannable, as of my knowledge… :p We read the information alone, maybe you got that from rsbot? They "hack" the client which is a little detectable.

TViYH

2008-08-06 20:55:07

Yeah. Reflection just reads the client.

tarajunky

2008-08-06 21:05:29

It may be true that reflection only reads the client, but how the script uses that information may be detectable.

For instance, if reflection tells you a very precise position for an object, and you click it very precisely (no randomness) that would probably be detectable.

If your script responds to an object appearing after the same amount of time each time (like wait 200 ms then move mouse and click), then that might be detectable.

Sometimes having too much information could make you behave more bot-like, so that's something to keep in mind while scripting.

I haven't used reflection yet, so I can't say from personal experience, but I very rarely gets bans on my scripts. But I still get bans every once in a great while. Nothing wrong with the scripts. I can run 20 characters in the same script off and on for months on end with no bans. Then some random ban, and the rest keep right on running with no problems.

Who knows? Maybe a mod showed up on an alt account and started talking to you or something. Some bans seem completely random to me.

gothguydante

2008-08-06 21:23:31

if it was a mod he had to be on another account like you said cause i keep a great eye on my account and this is the first blackmarks i have ever had evan on my army and i have been autoing since the stupid3000 days…

Bobarkinator

2008-08-06 21:31:14

I suggest you study something before making an accusation.

basic_i

2008-08-06 21:34:15

wait….i thought this was talking about S.M.A.R.T scripts?

does S.M.A.R.T. = Reflection ????/

are these scripts the same? whats the dif???

carlover

2008-08-06 21:38:54

As of right now i am pretty sure that reflection is outdated. Also it can't be an old script because reflection just came out a while ago. The reason for your ban is probably no randomness. Like clicking on the same spot or using the same time to wait after click. I don't think that reflection is to blame for your ban just a bad script.


Oh and basic_i reflection is a new thing that came out that reads the smart client and will click on the selected points. Kind of like a grid of numbers being the SMART client and then in the script it is told to find those numbers and click on them. Simple:)

GoF

2008-08-08 06:12:58

From: Timer
Unless its really detectable (really really detectable, Like clicking tiles with no random tiles and 2 pixles…), you don't get banned till about a month after using the script… I've been using it on my armys and main, its not bannable, as of my knowledge… :p We read the information alone, maybe you got that from rsbot? They "hack" the client which is a little detectable.


Note: I got my fishing from 21 to 60ish in like 2 days with no randomizing tiles etc. and no ban with a certain bot liiiike… 1-2 months ago :D

So I suppose we may sometimes over-estimate jagex and their almighty banning system, as I also got the accounts mining and wc from cruddy levels to +60 in a very short amount of time..

But I suggest like doing a quest or something every now and then, not just grinding rocks or trees every minute and every second of the time you're online :D

n3ss3s

2008-08-08 06:18:34

I'm shitting my pants from anger because of unofficial posts about what maybe can be detectable and what not :mad:

Timer

2008-08-08 09:51:44

From: n3ss3s
I'm shitting my pants from anger because of unofficial posts about what maybe can be detectable and what not :mad:


N3ss3s, its time to break out your thread skillz!!!
"REFLECTION IS NOT DETECTABLE!!!"

Narcle

2008-08-08 14:10:57

From: Timer
"REFLECTION IS NOT DETECTABLE!!!"


We wouldn't use it if it was… And if it was detectable every single account that has used it would be banned. The automated systems don't F around.

Hobbit

2008-08-08 14:21:00

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