SRL Archive - Discussions & Debates

CNN News Article is here.

What are your opinions on this? I am just worrying, that it might spread to other countries as-well.

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That's bad very bad.

yes it is very bad im bloody british and i use tiscali but the already implemented dat dey send me emails and letters warning me then they move mi connection to heavy users but i have mi way round that cap lol dey nt smart as they think cause they mostly target p2p stuff like limewire kazaa and torrents the most concerning one of them all lol owell ill have to live with it or die

http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/

ISPs To Send “Hundreds of Thousands” of File-Sharing Warnings
Written by enigmax on July 24, 2008

According to initial reports, an announcement due later today will state that major ISPs in the UK have reached an agreement to work with the music industry to start mass warning file-sharers. The deal, brokered by the government, will see hundreds of thousands warned but not disconnected.

In what will be seen by the British Phonographic Industry as a partial victory in its war against file sharers, major ISPs in the UK have agreed to music industry demands to start sending out warning letters to those it accuses of sharing its copyright works.

The report states that the deal was agreed by six of the UK’s most prominent Internet Service Providers following intense government pressure. It’s estimated that these as-yet unnamed ISPs will send out hundreds of thousands of letters to suspected uploaders of music. The ISPs - thought to include Virgin Media who already did an early deal - are BT, Orange, Tiscali, Carphone Warehouse (AOL, TalkTalk) and BSkyB.

Demands from the music industry to disconnect uploaders from the Internet have not been met by the ISPs nor insisted upon by the government as Culture Secretary Andy Burnham had already stepped back from a government implemented ‘3 strikes and you’re out’ policy. One ISP, Virgin Media, already indicated that there was “absolutely no possibility” of them disconnecting alleged pirates from the Internet.

However, it’s being reported that other measures may be taken against alleged file-sharers, including traffic management techniques being deployed to punish persistent offenders. As we reported earlier, this element is likely to be negotiated by the UK telecoms regulator, Ofcom.

The Times is reporting that other steps may be taken by the government such as the introduction of an annual £30 ‘download tax’. Peter Jenner, a music industry player who has been supporting such a plan said that the tax could bring in enough turnover to support the music industry: “If you get enough people paying a small enough amount of money you can turn around the wheels of the music industry” he said. Although UK citizens are used to this type of charge with the current TV licensing system, this type of tax seems unlikely to succeed in the current environment.

A Memorandum of Understanding drawn up by the Department for Business, Enterprise & Regulatory Reform (BERR) and signed by all six ISPs states that not only must the ISPs commit to a “significant reduction” in music file-sharing in the UK but they must also help develop legal music services too. One can see how this might be attractive to certain ISPs, such as BSkyB who just days ago signed a deal with Universal to set up an online music service “to rival iTunes”.

All this will be backed up by an educational campaign to ensure that every customer knows that it is illegal to upload copyright music.

More on this breaking news as we get it during the day.

Update: Geoff Taylor, chief executive of the BPI says reports of a levy are incorrect: “A levy is not an issue under discussion. It has not been discussed between us and government and as far as we are aware it is not on the table.”

Oooo.

I'm British, and use Tiscali. I haven't got a letter yet though - I don't normally illegally download anything. From the sound of it, using a proxy will stop them tracing us :p

It's still annoying though :(

The british just lose.

hehe this would be terrible if it ever got up to canada ! but would this kill all the torrent sites out there?

Hmmm….. I somehow don't think this will last long…

My dad got a letter from Planet Internet too. He blocked all torrents site that exist.

I think that it is wrong from the stand point of restricting access i am fine with them monitering those people that are found downloading music but then those people should just recieve a ticket that is supposed be payed to charitees I am fine with that but restriciting the internet acess that is being payed for is wrong either dump them from their service or do nothign to them at all

Nothing will come of it - this will only last publicly for a couple of weeks then die down to the point where it disappears in the cracks of society. The music world was just PMS'ing and will calm down and won't throw any more fusses for a while, so just download like crap until they do - either that or stick to movies and programs since software developers and movie companies don't seem to care too much :)

Its like all those stupid laws around randoms cities… I think around my town there was something about not selling peanuts after 8:00pm.

Anyhow, it will probably be like one of those. No body will be able to catch anyone, and it will just stop.

do you know of the existence of .. " peer guardian " .

its the shit . use this if you mega ultra super pirate . .. i does . it gud .

i hope this doesn't reach the USA

so, u kno what to do…..'borrow' your neibourghs wireless network for a couple hours so they get a letter lmao

Just encrypt your connections. Duh…

From: GoF
The british just lose.

They always get owned in Pandemic…


I don't know, I think 'piracy' is a big part of selling music, it's a bigger advertiser than any other for music and movies…

Wut du aiy thin' 'bout piracy ehh? Well… I feel dat…

…fuck'm I want me free booty! Arrr!

If this goes globally that would suck..

From: Ron
Wut du aiy thin' 'bout piracy ehh? Well… I feel dat…

…fuck'm I want me free booty! Arrr!

I lol'd.

Well…

Im yet to get a letter.

Bring it on bitches.

Seriosusly companies like the RIAA just make me laugh. So many fake statistics so much bulshit. The ISPs are just following orders. Unfortunatey.

I don't think this will do much for the pirates in the world. Most of the ISPs customers have pirated and will pirate sometime soon. If they block all of the pirates, they will not have many customers and the ISPs will soon go under. Also, when people get their internet blocked when they are not actually pirating, which I know will happen, they will complain to the ISPs.

Word of mouth will soon kill this. People get blocked, those people tell others to change ISPs, the ISPs loose many customers, and they will remove the blocks.

Also, they loose 2 billion dollars per year due to pirates? Yeah, bullshit, the only people loosing the money are the people that already have their pockets lined with cash. The music artists are not making any money, just CEOs and such are making money.

I am not at all worried.

Yes, most of it is just a scare tactic. Sometimes you need to see the pictures within the pictures (literally).