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Bannage NEWSFLASH! @!@!@!


m5n

2008-05-27 09:20:43

Right first of all,

To decrease the percentage of any of your accounts getting banned, you need atleast 2 swapping over every hour maybe.

And this is a definate.

Seeings Jagex Inc can see which programs are running etc, you will need to change the NAME of scar.exe to something like : Opera / FireFox / WLMessenger / Windows Live Search ,,, or something like that.

Jagex will scan the Process list and not see SCAR.EXE and click on his banhammer, Jagex staff will scim it and move on.

Also if you use a script which changes the name of the actual TAB, to say something like Internet Explorer or summin,

Not saying you can auto 24/7 , But maybe 12/7…

And get away with it.


I bet people like zezima use this method, thats how he don't get banned, seeings he muct use a bot to get 200M XP, its just mad 1Bil XP in a few years time, what a no-lifer if he don't use a bot eh…

!!!!!!@@@@!!!!!@@@@!!!!!!@@@@!!!!!!!@@@@!!!!!!!

THANKS FOR LISTENING!

benjaa

2008-05-27 09:23:34

Did you see this somewhere legit?
Or are you making assumptions?

m5n

2008-05-27 09:25:01

Its a legit Assumption,

I KNOW for a fact they look at your list of Processes on ur CPU, thats their only proof, how else would they find out your macroing!?

Naum

2008-05-27 09:25:39

From: m5n
Right first of all,

To decrease the percentage of any of your accounts getting banned, you need atleast 2 swapping over every hour maybe.

And this is a definate.

Seeings Jagex Inc can see which programs are running etc, you will need to change the NAME of scar.exe to something like : Opera / FireFox / WLMessenger / Windows Live Search ,,, or something like that.

Jagex will scan the Process list and not see SCAR.EXE and click on his banhammer, Jagex staff will scim it and move on.

Also if you use a script which changes the name of the actual TAB, to say something like Internet Explorer or summin,

Not saying you can auto 24/7 , But maybe 12/7…

And get away with it.


I bet people like zezima use this method, thats how he don't get banned, seeings he muct use a bot to get 200M XP, its just mad 1Bil XP in a few years time, what a no-lifer if he don't use a bot eh…

!!!!!!@@@@!!!!!@@@@!!!!!!@@@@!!!!!!!@@@@!!!!!!!

THANKS FOR LISTENING!


This is pretty wrong, If jagex can get into your computer and see what your running then it would be violating their laws.

Also I agree with your switching accounts thingy, which is why scripts now have multiplayer ;)

The reason people were getting banned was by using Insta Ban scripts, which jagex could detect 6.7 miles away..

benjaa

2008-05-27 09:25:54

I KNOW for a fact they look at your list of Processes on ur CPU, thats their only proof, how else would they find out your macroing!?


Bad script perhaps?
- Ones that dont have GOOD anti-ban
- Run for ridiculous periods of time
- Ones that log out during antirandoms would possibly attract attention too

hylian_loach

2008-05-27 09:28:02

Good guide. But most of these things are already mentioned in the SRL FAQ (especially the one about using an army)

And changing the process name won't matter - because banning someone based on a program called 'SCAR.exe' is really… lazy. Software like VAC and Warden actually invade the other processes and check the stuff they do.

I don't remembering agreeing to an EULA saying that Jagex has the right to collect information about my computer.
If jagex can get into your computer and see what your running then it would be violating their laws
This quote pretty much sums it up.

m5n

2008-05-27 09:28:20

If you look at your RANDOM.DAT file in ur computer , usually in C:/WINDOWS/.Jagex_cache32 or something u will find it in there.
Don't matter which script you use, sometimes its because of Dodgy tiles which gets you banned quick, if you use different tiles or paths each time, also less ban, don't you say im wrong as im not,

I know what im talking about.

RANDOM.DAT is there for a reason, to trace ur CPU, and to find out what your running etc.

Otherwise they have no proof of MACROING.

hylian_loach

2008-05-27 09:32:22

From: m5n
If you look at your RANDOM.DAT file in ur computer , usually in C:/WINDOWS/.Jagex_cache32 or something u will find it in there.
Don't matter which script you use, sometimes its because of Dodgy tiles which gets you banned quick, if you use different tiles or paths each time, also less ban, don't you say im wrong as im not,

I know what im talking about.

RANDOM.DAT is there for a reason, to trace ur CPU, and to find out what your running etc.

Otherwise they have no proof of MACROING.

No offense, but it sounds like you're regurgitating stuff you've read off the SRL FAQ section. Most of this stuff is old, and besides - your claims are still wrong. Unless you work for Jagex, you are just making baseless assumptions.

m5n

2008-05-27 09:33:25

Well don't take my advice, take your ban like a man.

hylian_loach

2008-05-27 09:36:11

Well don't take my advice, take your ban like a man.

don't take my advice

my


Hi, redundancy is bad. Please stop claiming that what other, more experienced people have created is your own work.

Thanks, and learn to do your own research

EDIT:
Also, I'd like to point out the irony of this statement:
Its a legit Assumption
Whoever has heard of a legit assumption :rolleyes:

EDIT2:
Also, Random.dat has absolutely nothing to do with collecting process data. You don't need a blank 24 byte file to read process information. Seriously, read what you are typing first.

P1nky

2008-05-27 09:51:41

first of all this is belongs in tut island. second of all it is kinda true. you know how jagex said to send your info to them idk where but i heard this from a clan site. and he send his whole computer info and he got banned all his account.(not sure, ill get the link later when im at home.)

hylian_loach

2008-05-27 09:57:36

From: P1NKY
first of all this is belongs in tut island. second of all it is kinda true. you know how jagex said to send your info to them idk where but i heard this from a clan site. and he send his whole computer info and he got banned all his account.(not sure, ill get the link later when im at home.)

Yeah, it's true, but then again, SRL looks down upon plagiarism.

Random.dat, and Multiplayer in SCAR have existed for a long time, yet this "Registered User", can come in here and claim to know everything about macroing, when other; more experienced people have done much more vigorous research. It's obvious he has no idea what he's talking about. Nobody who has experience (or is willing to write a good tutorial), will format the entire post in bold, and make extremely vague statements with almost no substance about why it works.

And nobody who truly understands macroing, will somehow relate random.dat to running processes. That's just stupid

Newsflash: m5n pulls bullshit out of his ass and expects people to believe his credibility.

P1nky

2008-05-27 09:59:05

dude how is that plagiarism?

ill quote it from the person who wrote that. that aint plagiarism.

m5n

2008-05-27 10:05:55

I told you,

Why would i lie ffs.


XD


:google: :google: :google: :google:

JuKKa

2008-05-27 10:07:29

From: hylian_loach
Yeah, it's true, but then again, SRL looks down upon plagiarism.

Random.dat, and Multiplayer in SCAR have existed for a long time, yet this "Registered User", can come in here and claim to know everything about macroing, when other; more experienced people have done much more vigorous research. It's obvious he has no idea what he's talking about. Nobody who has experience (or is willing to write a good tutorial), will format the entire post in bold, and make extremely vague statements with almost no substance about why it works.

And nobody who truly understands macroing, will somehow relate random.dat to running processes. That's just stupid

Newsflash: m5n pulls bullshit out of his ass and expects people to believe his credibility.


i agree 100%

m5n

2008-05-27 10:07:32

Listen, you are also a Chicken and im soon to be SRL JR Member, fucking knob head.

You can go eat shit,

Stop arguing in my thread - Im just posting my HELPFUL advice.

So gtfo - Asshole

JuKKa

2008-05-27 10:11:59

From: m5n
Listen, you are also a Chicken and im soon to be SRL JR Member, fucking knob head.

You can go eat shit,

Stop arguing in my thread - Im just posting my HELPFUL advice.

So gtfo - Asshole

Get ur facts straight!

hylian_loach

2008-05-27 10:12:38

From: m5n
Listen, you are also a Chicken and im soon to be SRL JR Member, fucking knob head.

You can go eat shit,

Stop arguing in my thread - Im just posting my HELPFUL advice.

So gtfo - Asshole

Your post history claims otherwise. Good fight.
http://www.srl-forums.com/forum/search.php?searchid=645598

Are you seriously going to claim your posts have any substance? Because I see rather a lack of effort placed in your posts. Good job spamming the forum.

dude how is that plagiarism?

ill quote it from the person who wrote that. that aint plagiarism.
The so called 'advice' he posted here is so damn obvious. Anyone can read the FAQ and realize that what half he said was simply a repetition, placed in a slightly more ugly harder-to-read format.

I'm not going to argue whether his post is plagiarism or not.

ShowerThoughts

2008-05-27 10:15:25

From: m5n
Listen, you are also a Chicken and im soon to be SRL JR Member, fucking knob head.

You can go eat shit,

Stop arguing in my thread - Im just posting my HELPFUL advice.

So gtfo - Asshole


Are you sure you want to get srl member with that attitude… you could have said he's not right but he is using proof your not.

Markus

2008-05-27 10:27:04

[quote=m5n;410555]
Seeings Jagex Inc can see which programs are running etc, you will need to change the NAME of scar.exe to something like : Opera / FireFox / WLMessenger / Windows Live Search ,,, or something like that.

Biggest bullshit I've ever heard.
[quote=m5n;410555]
Jagex will scan the Process list

See above.

JuKKa

2008-05-27 10:28:49

From: Markus

Biggest bullshit I've ever heard.

See above.

i totally agree, this guy should get his facts straight!

isjusme

2008-05-27 11:52:56

they look at your clicks, and how long you've been on, and if yu've been doing the same thing without a break.

As for the processes thing, they would be violating privacy laws, tresspassing laws, and violating a law isnt worth a video game. as long as they are getting paid they shouldn't care.

m5n

2008-05-27 11:58:59

Just always make sure to not used SIGNED Applets,

Your a dead botter if you do that, Jagex can watch your every click and move that way,

Use Unsigned they cannot pick it up easily.

=)

Just another tip.

JuKKa

2008-05-27 12:25:45

Didnt some one already prove that jagex does not record mouse clicks, or maybe it was movements.

As long as u auto correctly, u wont get banned.

  • Atleast 5 players
  • Unsigned
  • If signed delete Random.Dat EVERYTIME u auto
  • Dont auto on the same world everytime
  • Change scripts every once in a while, dont auto on the same spot for weeks.

Markus

2008-05-27 12:28:40

Uhm, in terms of detectability, the only thing which might help them to detect us is the random.dat file. Besides that not that much difference between signed/unsigned.

ConneX

2008-05-27 12:34:37

Jagex cant see what programs you got at your computer,its hacking :s

richk1693

2008-05-27 15:58:05

From: m5n
Listen, you are also a Chicken and im soon to be SRL JR Member, fucking knob head.

You can go eat shit,

Stop arguing in my thread - Im just posting my HELPFUL advice.

So gtfo - Asshole


Take this one from a king black dragon, and an SRL Member. If you keep up your current attitude there is no way you will ever be anything more than a JR. SRL Member. Calling others asshole isn't the way to go. If you have the best script ever and an attitude like that you won't get it. Fix up your attitude or the only "bannage" will be yours.

Edit : There is also a difference between helpful advice, and random guesses. It would be illegal for them to scan your processes like that, and scar doesn't prove anything for botting. It's a tool for pascal scripting. It is not limited to runescape.

crayola oblongata

2008-05-27 15:59:10

Thats not right is it? They cant view your apps and stuff

mixster

2008-05-27 16:07:07

From: JuKKa
Didnt some one already prove that jagex does not record mouse clicks, or maybe it was movements.


They *probably* record clicks, not movements. If they recorded movements, then they would need an extra load of databases just to store them :)

Anyway, I thought random.dat only stored information about other users from the same IP who failed randoms or quit when one appeared?

playah8tah

2008-05-27 16:07:46

that is not true… scanning your process list would be against the law without your permission. World of Warcraft does this, but it is in the ToS for the game that you accept when you install/subscribe.

get your facts straight before you go saying things like this please

benjaa

2008-05-28 02:02:15

Pretty sure you've lost your battle M5N

High-level people like Markus, Jukka, P1NKY, Richk1693, Mixster and Hermpie say you got nothing.

Go away
Keep your scribblings of a retard to yourself

ConneX

2008-05-28 03:42:19

My main is disabled at this week. :< 10day only.

hylian_loach

2008-05-28 03:43:29

There is also a difference between helpful advice, and random guesses. It would be illegal for them to scan your processes like that, and scar doesn't prove anything for botting. It's a tool for pascal scripting. It is not limited to runescape.
Quoted for Truth. I'd also like to reassert that his (m5n) 'tips' are nothing more than stolen credit from other, harder working members of SRL.

Believe it or not, he will never most likely never read this thread, since his purpose of these 'tips' is not to help the community, but rather as a medium to serve him up his post count.

Jackrawl

2008-06-02 16:00:54

Just asking for confirmation, random.dat is just a list of accounts on a computer so that Jagex can pretend evidence exists of autoing over multiple accounts?
@Hylian - You are awesome.

Hobbit

2008-06-02 20:39:42

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