SRL Archive - Discussions and Debates

Possible Way to Solve Mardourt (schoolhouse) random?


Harry

2008-05-26 13:26:29

Instead of putting all the item names and infinate number of choices into a script, how about we have humans solve it?

Using a GetPage and PostData stuff on a webpage like iSpy, it posts the question, and a multuple choice buttons for answers. The script sends the data and waits to up to 2 minutes. After 2 minutes of waiting with no answer, it logs out / reverts to way with a few built in questions. Also using a login number like SRL Stats, but different, and you need to be a Jr Member+ to create an ID. That way, the script will solve it totally 75% of the time, and almost no work is needed in the solver :)

To make people join in in question answering and the fun of it, have a point system near your username "Mardourts Helped Solve!" and each time the answer it (and CORRECTLY!) it goes up 1 point. Each time the human choses a wrong answer, they can not answer any more questsions for a small time period (30 minutes?) and they get 1 point taken off their total. A -5 points disables you from using the system anymore, unless you talk to an Admin.

I think this may actually work very well :)

Please post your opinions about this-
~ Harry

itSchRis917

2008-05-26 13:30:48

Very interesting idea.. But i dont really think it would work..

Macrosoft

2008-05-26 13:32:21

If this is possible, this could be a very good way to solve randoms. We could make options in the script that say whether they want humans to solve randoms before the script resorts to the scripted version.

Harry

2008-05-26 13:34:36

Yes, I think chris is just being non-optimisitc :p Why exactly would it not work, chris? At any given time, there is usually at least 5 jr members online, and I am online a lot aswell.

itSchRis917

2008-05-26 13:36:56

The word is pessimistic by the way harry.. And i dont know why i dont think it will work… I suppose we could give it a shot, at least while Sky and whoever else is working on it make a solver..

EDIT: 800th post! :D

mixster

2008-05-26 13:40:55

It won't work because it would be complex to make it work with this forum without heavy php editing as I doubt there is a pre made hack/mod/whatever you want to call it.
Not only that, but you can have to configure Scar to send the required data and work with received data etc. which can get complex in itself.

itSchRis917

2008-05-26 13:42:55

To Mixster: I know Pentti made something that is similar to what Harry is talking about.. Maybe if he gave the source to an admin or something, they could build off that..?

bullzeye95

2008-05-26 13:48:12

So basically, you want another SleepWalker?
It could work, but I really don't think that enough people would do it. Besides, it's in the process of being solved already.

Sir R. M8gic1an

2008-05-26 13:48:38

the problem is not getting the answer. the problem is detecting which objects are the question. it would actually be harder to solve the random this way than on its own cus you'd need to get all 7 objects and wait around for someone to answer. the way sky is doing it right now it only needs to get the objects and check them with a list.

the problem really is on detecting them.

~RM

Harry

2008-05-26 14:11:21

Well, it could also take a screenshot in SCAR of the images then trim the down and have it posted on that thing? ;)

Wizzup?

2008-05-26 14:25:41

It won't be too hard. I just don't think it will work out.
You'd have to connect it with IRC somehow, and maybe upload it to tinypic? (SCAR and POST) After upping it, post the link on IRC.

n3ss3s

2008-05-26 14:41:10

Too much trouble since there is an easier way, hopefully, and as Bullzeye said, the solver is already being developed.

PvH

2008-05-26 14:47:52

hmm.. nice idea.. but there won't always be helpers online (i think)..
so that would mean the script keeps on waiting..
i like the idea.. but its hard.. and i like solving my script more
i hope sky scripter gets the job done:D

Freddy1990

2008-05-26 18:07:34

old idea…
sleepwalker back in RSC used an IRC channel with ppl to read the words and type em

Smartzkid

2008-05-26 21:02:53

Has been done before - it's plenty possible - but it really isn't needed.

Harry

2008-05-26 22:47:56

Ah well, I think it would work well. Like a boolean if you wanted to have it on or not?

But yeah, an actual solver would be better, but each time the Client updates, they answers for the "select 3 items" changes… how would we get around that?

P1nky

2008-05-27 09:57:48

yeah than we can have a group called:

random solvers! lol i hope i got this idea.

so your saying:
like somehow it will go to the irc and ppl on the irc will solve it by typing code? or something.

looks sweet but, if its getting developed already not needed.

Mjordan

2008-06-03 13:55:58

EDIT: sorry I originally posted in the wrong thread, but might as well say something about this topic lol.


Yeah old idea, we did this with aryan. I doubt it would work too well now, and as other above said there are easier ways now. A+ for effort and thinking though Hy !

tarajunky

2008-06-03 14:18:16

From: Hy71194
Ah well, I think it would work well. Like a boolean if you wanted to have it on or not?

But yeah, an actual solver would be better, but each time the Client updates, they answers for the "select 3 items" changes… how would we get around that?


I've never looked closely, but I've always wondered if the correct three items are the ONLY group of 3 related items on the screen at once.

If we can reliably detect items, and if only one group of 3 exists, then we don't even need to know what the hint is.

Metagen

2008-07-02 17:07:43

I remember something like this from rs classic. Cold feet or something. but that was with fatigue :p. I think it will work nicely, coldfeet worked well with classic. You needed to get points for doing other peoples questions so that you would have enough points for people to do yours.

I think with a point system it would be effective.

Widget

2008-07-02 22:15:23

From: bullzeye95
So basically, you want another SleepWalker?
It could work, but I really don't think that enough people would do it. Besides, it's in the process of being solved already.

From: Metagen
I remember something like this from rs classic. Cold feet or something. but that was with fatigue :p. I think it will work nicely, coldfeet worked well with classic. You needed to get points for doing other peoples questions so that you would have enough points for people to do yours.

I think with a point system it would be effective.

;)

Another SleepWalker might be kinda annoying to write, and it couldn't just send 1 bitmap, it'd have to update a good amount so people can see all the angles of the things.

Metagen

2008-07-04 17:17:24

All in all, i think this would be more trouble than it is worth. Are there not several other random events that can stop you anyways? It just isn't worth it.

The Claw

2008-07-06 13:06:36

Well, the antirandom-dev crew are currently working on these randoms, and they are all making really good progress. ;)