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What if all the times you thought "wow time is going by really fast right now" or "omg time is dragging by so slow" it was actually true?
It happens all the time, and you don't think of it as being literal.
I think it is.
I think time is in motion, with infinite direction, which would explain the slowing of time as your speed increases.
Time has a certain speed, and the closer you get to it the slower time passes.
Once you have passed the speed of time, you no longer exist.
This would explain why nothing could go faster than the speed of light.
So this is how i think time can change for an individual without changing the individual's speed-
Time "flying by" is usually associated with being occupied/ having fun.
Time "dragging by" is usually associated with boredom/ waiting for time to pass.
So maybe your mind has this kind of speed in an infinite direction the way time does.
Speeding up your thoughts is like speeding up your motion.
Or maybe speeding up your motion is just speeding up your mind, and actually moving has nothing to do with it.
I believe two people could be in a room, one watching a movie, the other staring at a wall.
They stay in the room for a "universal hour", or one hour on a clock.
I say universal hour because our judgments of time are based on a clock.
But how do we know that an hour has passed for both people?
I found a quote from Einstein that scared me-
“There is no such thing as a “now” that is independent of some system of reference.
No one can assume his or her subject sense of “now” applies throughout the universe.
Instead, every reference body has its own particular time.”
So i do believe the person staring at the wall was in the room for more than an hour.
And the person watching the movie was in the room for less than an hour.
But in universal time, or the clock, it was just an hour.
So a clock is a reference for showing time on earth with no other factors, such as motion or thought.
I do think the spinning of earth and the motion it is in changes the way time is on earth and makes it
different than it would be on another planet, which is why i say it is a reference for earth.
This part of the quote-
“There is no such thing as a “now” that is independent of some system of reference."
i believe is talking about how we use clocks.
When you say something is happening "now" your are talking about it is happening at the same time a clock
shows a certain time.
But "now" for you is different from the "now" of another person.
I could see in the future there being some way to travel at the speed of light and do something that stops your thoughts completely.
Then time would be standing still around you.
You could look at people who are actually in motion as you pass them, but they would be standing still.
An hour to you is like a second to the things around you. (just for example)
But to you, a second just seems to pass by like a normal second.
So maybe this theory means that there could be two people who both die on their 50th birthday.
If one of them lived a very boring life, he could have actually live for 51 years.
Then maybe the other one worked as a pilot and travelled on jets all day at really high speeds and had fun doing it.
Maybe he lived for 49 years.
But "universal time" says they both lived for 50 years.
Just like the quote says, all judgments of time have to based on something else.
Because think about it, there is no way to measure time, assuming it changes under different circumstances.
So we have to base it on one certain thing, the clock.
Here's another part of my theory and another quote from Einstein.
"Things can only be considered simultaneous in your own immediate environment"
How do you ever know two events are sumultaneous?
I think this is saying that things can be simultaneous to YOU but not necessarily to all other viewers.
Time is relative rather than absolute (the theory of relativity)
So it can happen.
Here is probably the most interesting thing i have ever read- (Scroll to the part called "Cosmic trains")
http://personal.tcu.edu/~dingram/edu/pine2.html
It is an idea thought up by Einstein about the theory of relativity, and shows exactly what i was saying.

This all came to me today in school, trying to do something i never was able to do until today.
I have wanted to go through an entire class period without looking away from the clock.
I usually last 10 minutes and i give up because it seems like an hour.
But this time i was deep deep in thought.
The 10 minutes had just passed right by, and the whole time i was just thinking of how it could be different this one time.
It had to be because staring at a clock is boring and thoughtless, and time literally goes by slower somehow from this.
Well that's about about all i've got for right now.

Edit:
I was pretty disappointed to click on that link and read the top part and see that other people have obviously theorized the same thing.
Oh well though, i thought of this exactly how i said.

wow jus wow some thoet you got going there lol

i dont see the point like

i dont see the point like

Me neither.
But i'm just that kind of person that has to wonder about this stuff.

From: almost
What if all the times you thought "wow time is going by really fast right now" or "omg time is dragging by so slow" it was actually true?
It happens all the time, and you don't think of it as being literal.
I think it is.
I think time is in motion, with infinite direction, which would explain the slowing of time as your speed increases.
Time has a certain speed, and the closer you get to it the slower time passes.
Once you have passed the speed of time, you no longer exist.
This would explain why nothing could go faster than the speed of light.
So this is how i think time can change for an individual without changing the individual's speed-
Time "flying by" is usually associated with being occupied/ having fun.
Time "dragging by" is usually associated with boredom/ waiting for time to pass.
So maybe your mind has this kind of speed in an infinite direction the way time does.
Speeding up your thoughts is like speeding up your motion.
Or maybe speeding up your motion is just speeding up your mind, and actually moving has nothing to do with it.

Interesting thought, the one problem is, you can have hundreds of complex thoughts in a matter of minutes, i may be a genius but i do that all the time, i ponder for what seems like a long time is really only 10-15 minutes… Really time is just a perception, we cannot really put an accurate number on it because it has always been and always will be, time is infinite…

we cannot really put an accurate number on it because it has always been and always will be, time is infinite…

I do agree with time is infinite but i have also thought into the beliefs of some people, that space/time is like a circle.
That it actually had a beginning and has an end but it will just keep on going around and around.
Who knows?…

Time was made up by people to keep track of events, etc. If you want to hurt your head, just think of how much time must have passed before you were born. Like the creation of the universe…but even before that…before the universe was created what was there? And before that? How about how much time passes after you're dead? And when there's no person to track time, is it passing?

And on a side note, someone asked what it felt like after you die, and a clever person said, probably the same feeling as before you were born.

time…

(this is all my opinion)

the problem with time is that you cant measure it correctly. Its not like in animation where you get a slide and thats one piece of time. or like space, where you can measure how big something is going down smaller and smaller forever. Time is an illusion. Future is doesnt exist, because anything anyone does is going to change whatever "future" the future held. Nothing can be determinted until it has already happened. And that brings past. you cant travel into the past because anything you do in the past will change the past which will in turn change the "future" or what we would call the "present". Then you'd have a paradox, of not being able to go into the past in the first place. Im using the butterfly effect to rationalize my musings. So that would get past, and future out of the way. Then since you cant measure the present because it is always changing. The number you go down to(8723492392342342342342343478123048127341723 of a second) doesnt matter because it continues to keep becoming smaller. Which means that theres is no present. So time being an illusion is basically what im saying.

but lets say time isnt an illusion, universal time doesnt make sense, because time depends on the level at which you are. I am talking about gravitationally. Meaning that the amount of graviational force something pushes down on, is what will speed up/slow down time. black holes, are created by having lots-o-mass in one small spot, which will make a very deep hole on the trampoline of life. Then when you travel across this tramoline, its time. If there is no holes, created by planets/ stuff then you have the regular, but its impossble, to tell if there is a slant in the trampoline. but back to the black hole, if you are travelling into the black hole, then you'll keep moving the same distance across the x axis in the same amount of time, so the farther you move on the z axis is how fast you're moving in time, which means if you're travelling into a black hole then time moves extremely fast. The only problem with my theory of if time isnt an illusion(which it is, and i bet both of my theories could work together), then when there is no gravity you'll be stuck in time, and be preserved, never aging.Though thats assuming that you have no mass, so technically you would age, just extremely slowly, but it would be as if there was no time.

If you havent noticed on my musings, i have thought a lot about this over the past few how ever long its been. Hope you like my opinions :)

If you have x, y, z, and t(ime), the first three by themselves are just infinite planes. But since we cannot visually percieve time except by actions in the first three dimensions, it exists to us as an all encompasing… mabob?

Dan-
I agree on the time travel totally.
I never believed in just jumping from one time to another.
Time could possibly be altered but not just jumped over.
Like you could speed it up to a point where you are basically going into the future, but you are still elapsing time doing that.
And i see no way at all of going into the past.
It would have to butterfly effect making it where you wouldn't have even gone into the past in the first place.

From: Dan Cardin
time…

(this is all my opinion)

the problem with time is that you cant measure it correctly. Its not like in animation where you get a slide and thats one piece of time. or like space, where you can measure how big something is going down smaller and smaller forever. Time is an illusion. Future is doesnt exist, because anything anyone does is going to change whatever "future" the future held. Nothing can be determinted until it has already happened. And that brings past. you cant travel into the past because anything you do in the past will change the past which will in turn change the "future" or what we would call the "present". Then you'd have a paradox, of not being able to go into the past in the first place. Im using the butterfly effect to rationalize my musings. So that would get past, and future out of the way. Then since you cant measure the present because it is always changing. The number you go down to(8723492392342342342342343478123048127341723 of a second) doesnt matter because it continues to keep becoming smaller. Which means that theres is no present. So time being an illusion is basically what im saying.

How can time be an illusion if it has real effects? such as aging what if someone thinks young, he is young? Just because you can measure something to the tiniest number does not mean that it is an illusion, like molecules in our body, or DNA, it is virtually limitless and we do not have the time to count them all… All that can hold true as far as the future is concerned is whatever is in the Bible that is supposed to happen in the future, other than those occurances the future does not actually "exist" all that "exists" is what has happened and what is happening, and yes i am a Christian

True, how could time be an illusion when i am experiencing it right now?
I think we are probably taking what he said the wrong way, and i'm not sure where he was going with it exactly.

Well, many of the things you are talking about are actually relativity related. The reason something cant go the speed of light is because as a thing increases in speed its mass is increased as well. Eventual a thing gets the the point where it requires infinite energy to keep it going (anything with mass). The other thing you end up noticing is the relationship between mass and energy near c start to become indistinguishable. Take an electron, for example, It is known to have a mass and in many cases is treated like a particle, however in almost every way it acts like a wave. It is traveling near the speed of light.

You relate time to motion, but then proceed to talk about how one person goes through time faster then another person based on what they are watching, thats a bit far fetched and is easily disproven, just take an atomic clock to "Iron Man" and leave another in a borring lab. Both will report the same time. The only difference is when you put them one on a plane and fly it around the world as fast as you can.

Another point that is a bit off is you say there is a reference time here on earth that most people follow, What happens to astronauts? Why don't their voices sound distorted or is the time they reported being gone from earth different for the time measured on earth. Or even the robots the traveled to mars. Very precise timing was needed to make the systems their work, if what you are saying is true, then that mission shouldn't have worked.

Don't get me wrong, you have some correct Ideas, but some incorrect ones as well. You really need to read up on the theory of relativity, misconstruing it can get you into bad places you don't want to go. Then read up on the photo electric effect, what Einstein got his noble prize for. Then, once you are done with that, if you really want to blow out your mind, read up on the string theory… Yeah, if you get to that point your mind should be sufficiently confused and blown :)

From: Dan Cardin
time…

(this is all my opinion)

the problem with time is that you cant measure it correctly. Its not like in animation where you get a slide and thats one piece of time. or like space, where you can measure how big something is going down smaller and smaller forever. Time is an illusion. Future is doesnt exist, because anything anyone does is going to change whatever "future" the future held. Nothing can be determinted until it has already happened. And that brings past. you cant travel into the past because anything you do in the past will change the past which will in turn change the "future" or what we would call the "present". Then you'd have a paradox, of not being able to go into the past in the first place. Im using the butterfly effect to rationalize my musings. So that would get past, and future out of the way. Then since you cant measure the present because it is always changing. The number you go down to(8723492392342342342342343478123048127341723 of a second) doesnt matter because it continues to keep becoming smaller. Which means that theres is no present. So time being an illusion is basically what im saying.

but lets say time isnt an illusion, universal time doesnt make sense, because time depends on the level at which you are. I am talking about gravitationally. Meaning that the amount of graviational force something pushes down on, is what will speed up/slow down time. black holes, are created by having lots-o-mass in one small spot, which will make a very deep hole on the trampoline of life. Then when you travel across this tramoline, its time. If there is no holes, created by planets/ stuff then you have the regular, but its impossble, to tell if there is a slant in the trampoline. but back to the black hole, if you are travelling into the black hole, then you'll keep moving the same distance across the x axis in the same amount of time, so the farther you move on the z axis is how fast you're moving in time, which means if you're travelling into a black hole then time moves extremely fast. The only problem with my theory of if time isnt an illusion(which it is, and i bet both of my theories could work together), then when there is no gravity you'll be stuck in time, and be preserved, never aging.Though thats assuming that you have no mass, so technically you would age, just extremely slowly, but it would be as if there was no time.

If you havent noticed on my musings, i have thought a lot about this over the past few how ever long its been. Hope you like my opinions :)

Saying "If you can't measure it it must not exist" is a bad argument. What is the smallest piece of matter? Answer, we cant measure it so we don't know. Does that mean matter doesnt really exist? No, it just means we have no way of measuring it from a basic unit. Instead we take larger chunks and measure those (Atoms). How big is the universe? We don't know, and cant tell, for all we know there are stars beyond what we can see that the light from them hasn't made it to us yet. We just don't know. We have never actually seen a pure black point in space, when we look closer at it there is always something there, so how can we really estimate how big the universe is? Does that mean it doesn't exist? No, we just can't measure it.

Time is the same way, saying that it doesn't exist is like saying that matter or the universe don't exist. If it is truly a man made thing then why do animals behave according to it?

You relate time to motion, but then proceed to talk about how one person goes through time faster then another person based on what they are watching, thats a bit far fetched and is easily disproven, just take an atomic clock to "Iron Man" and leave another in a borring lab. Both will report the same time. The only difference is when you put them one on a plane and fly it around the world as fast as you can.

Another point that is a bit off is you say there is a reference time here on earth that most people follow, What happens to astronauts? Why don't their voices sound distorted or is the time they reported being gone from earth different for the time measured on earth. Or even the robots the traveled to mars. Very precise timing was needed to make the systems their work, if what you are saying is true, then that mission shouldn't have worked.

You sure didn't understand the point i was making.
You kind of took it the wrong way, but i don't know how to better explain it.
2 atomic clocks in different places don't have different thoughts.
No thoughts period.
I was saying the possibility of your mind having some sort of motion.
Being bored slows the motion down.
Clocks don't think or move, being the reason they stay ticking consistently.
But people can go at different speeds and be bored/ thrilled.

Oh, and i did my junior english paper on the theory of relativity and spent a good month reading books about it every day.
Along with some interesting websites.

From: almost
You sure didn't understand the point i was making.
You kind of took it the wrong way, but i don't know how to better explain it.
2 atomic clocks in different places don't have different thoughts.
No thoughts period.
I was saying the possibility of your mind having some sort of motion.
Being bored slows the motion down.
Clocks don't think or move, being the reason they stay ticking consistently.
But people can go at different speeds and be bored/ thrilled.

Oh, and i did my junior english paper on the theory of relativity and spent a good month reading books about it every day.
Along with some interesting websites.

You still haven't countered my astronaut statement though. once they escape the earth they should be seeing a different time then what they report to earth.

A Junior English paper on a physics principle just doesn't seem to strike me with awe. (Took a couple of university physics courses, Quantum theory is next semester.) In the forth grade a did a report on black holes for a presentation and read quite a bit about them for a month or so. Even now I am learning and understanding them much better because of the physics courses I am still taking.

You still haven't countered my astronaut statement though. once they escape the earth they should be seeing a different time then what they report to earth.

This is because of what you said is completely irrelevant from your lack of understanding what i was saying.
I know what you are saying though and you're right.

A Junior English paper on a physics principle just doesn't seem to strike me with awe. (Took a couple of university physics courses, Quantum theory is next semester.) In the forth grade a did a report on black holes for a presentation and read quite a bit about them for a month or so. Even now I am learning and understanding them much better because of the physics courses I am still taking.

Shucks i was trying my hardest to strike you with awe.
No, the point was that i have read up on the theory of relativity and understand it.
But just randomly you had said something about how i need to learn more about it, when i barely mention the theory at all.
I don't need to know about it, but if i do, well i do.

its all in your head.

time as some theorists knows, doesnt even move in a timeline- like way that we think of it.

its so hard for humans to feel its effects that we cant even look into it.

OR

is it really there at all.

some even say that time doesnt exists and that what we have as clocks are just a way to keep track of what we do daily and everything else is bio-science. (YEAH RIGHT)

From: almost
This is because of what you said is completely irrelevant from your lack of understanding what i was saying.
I know what you are saying though and you're right.


Shucks i was trying my hardest to strike you with awe.
No, the point was that i have read up on the theory of relativity and understand it.
But just randomly you had said something about how i need to learn more about it, when i barely mention the theory at all.
I don't need to know about it, but if i do, well i do.

There are several reasons for me to believe that you don't fully understand the theory of relativity, most from your original post.

Once you have passed the speed of time, you no longer exist.
This would explain why nothing could go faster than the speed of light.

No, it really doesn't. The theory of relativity does.

I do think the spinning of earth and the motion it is in changes the way time is on earth and makes it
different than it would be on another planet, which is why i say it is a reference for earth.

Here is where I get my Astronaut comment. By your own admission this point is invalid.

I could see in the future there being some way to travel at the speed of light and do something that stops your thoughts completely.

Again, this demonstrates a lack of understanding about the theory of relativity.

Then time would be standing still around you.
You could look at people who are actually in motion as you pass them, but they would be standing still.
An hour to you is like a second to the things around you. (just for example)
But to you, a second just seems to pass by like a normal second.

This sounds like a plot line from "clock stoppers" yeah, no other comment on this other then that.

So maybe this theory means that there could be two people who both die on their 50th birthday.
If one of them lived a very boring life, he could have actually live for 51 years.
Then maybe the other one worked as a pilot and travelled on jets all day at really high speeds and had fun doing it.
Maybe he lived for 49 years.

Here you touch on relativity, This is something that Was a result from the theory. You are completely correct in saying that two people can go threw different relative times.

But "universal time" says they both lived for 50 years.

There is no "Universal Time" Another result of relativity, time is a relative thing. But you did understand that, Im really just being nit-picky here.

"Things can only be considered simultaneous in your own immediate environment"
How do you ever know two events are sumultaneous?
I think this is saying that things can be simultaneous to YOU but not necessarily to all other viewers.

Nope, he is saying that you can only consider something to be simultaneous if you are in the immediate vicinity of the actions to observe them. Of course that means your measurement is only as good as you are close to the situation.

Don't get me wrong, there are some valid points that you make, and it is inventive thinking. but it will never be more then that. If you really believe this, then you need to make a way to quantify what is going on. Until you can do that nobody will take this seriously. (unless you can do enough math to confuse them ala string theory style :P)

you can't go faster then light is because your mass would become higher as you speed up with the formula M new = y * M at no speed where y = 1/(sqrt(1-(v/c))) v = speed and c is the speed of light, if they were to be equal you would have to devide by zero, which is not possible, this also means that going faster is not possible either because you would have to take the sqrt out of a negative number, which is possible in maths, but you can't have an answer till you do something else with it :)

by saying that time is an illusion, im rationalizing. The "present" as we call it, is really non existent. If the past doesnt exist, and the future doesnt exist then that means that the present cant exist or else there would be a defined past and future. Also we are talking about time as if it travels in a straight line.

I myself have invented my own way of thinking and put it to the name of polymorphism :). Its quite interesting, though since its only in my head and not on paper it probably has a lot of contradictions :p.

Anyways, i dont feel like arguing my idea of time being an illusion, because its my opinion, and i definately am not the only person to have thought about it. :)

Stop thinking of time as a linear thing, it is too a plane of existence. We just can not travel it independently of the three others we are or believe we are attached to.

Stephen Hawking suggests that the perception of time is a ratio: Unit of Time : Time Lived. For example, one hour to a six-month-old person would be approximately "1:4032", while one hour to a 40-year-old would be "1:349,440". Therefore an hour appears much longer to a young child than to an aged adult, even though the measure of time is equal.

(taken from wikipedia.org)

Maybe, it has to do with age, and/or the state of mind of someone, forming the illusion that time is moving at a specific rate.

My theory on time Travel: not possible, at least to the future.

If we go with scientific theories, then the future would not be able to be traveled to because the future is not set in stone. Anything any one person could do could change this outcome.

If we go with (my) religious theories: God has laid out the future, and our choices for us. The choices we choose will determine the future. Since it is not determined, (even though God knows what it is) then we cannot travel to a time that does not exist.

For traveling back in time: To be able to travel back for just one person, seems unlikely, because if you were to somehow be able to turn back time, then it could not be contained to a specific area, but everything would have to go back, possibly causing a rift in space, Such as a black hole, and effectively ending life on earth. This is just what I believe would happen, not necessarily saying it is true.

Boberman-
This is what i was looking for :p
Someone to debate with always shows your flaws and ways to improve on your theories.
But in this-

Once you have passed the speed of time, you no longer exist.
This would explain why nothing could go faster than the speed of light.

I was thinking of the relation between time and the speed of light, because it seems to be linked.
In my theory going faster than time goes will sort of make "negative time" meaning you won't exist anymore.
Which is just like saying the same thing but with going at the speed of light.
Maybe time and light are at equal speed?

I could see in the future there being some way to travel at the speed of light and do something that stops your thoughts completely.

Where did this show a lack of knowledge about relativity, or anything at all?

Nope, he is saying that you can only consider something to be simultaneous if you are in the immediate vicinity of the actions to observe them. Of course that means your measurement is only as good as you are close to the situation.

That's something along the lines of my first impression of it, but after the things i have been thinking about lately i tried deriving a new meaning from it.
Not saying this is what he meant by it or anything.

But ya i think you probly know the theory,
and me being a junior in high school and the hardest science class i've taken is environmental science, i won't even pretend to know more about it.
But it's fun learning this kind of stuff :)

From: isjusme
(taken from wikipedia.org)

Maybe, it has to do with age, and/or the state of mind of someone, forming the illusion that time is moving at a specific rate.

My theory on time Travel: not possible, at least to the future.

If we go with scientific theories, then the future would not be able to be traveled to because the future is not set in stone. Anything any one person could do could change this outcome.

If we go with (my) religious theories: God has laid out the future, and our choices for us. The choices we choose will determine the future. Since it is not determined, (even though God knows what it is) then we cannot travel to a time that does not exist.

For traveling back in time: To be able to travel back for just one person, seems unlikely, because if you were to somehow be able to turn back time, then it could not be contained to a specific area, but everything would have to go back, possibly causing a rift in space, Such as a black hole, and effectively ending life on earth. This is just what I believe would happen, not necessarily saying it is true.

that doesnt make sense. if god knows what happens then we really dont have freewill. If he can know whats going happen, and its always right then its not freewill. and if he knows whats going to happen then its already determained and set in stone.

as for travelling back in time, i dont see how that would create a rift in space/black hole…that just doesnt make sense.

The only way i can see "travelling time" is if you could bend space. Then you could make a zig-zag in space and pass straight through it. It wouldnt be time travelling perce`, it would be more like making time for you, move slower and then time in general would have to catch up…its kind of hard to explain, but this only would work if you could bend space

the speed of light is whatever miles per hour, if you go faster than that, than it just goes aster, it doesn't mean everything stops or whatever you said, I don't really have the same view on this as you do at all. On the contrary, I think in a way time is non-existent, I see "time" more as a measurement, like inches (or cm if you don't live in america and don't know what inches are) an inch will always equal an inch (cm always = cm) it will never change, time always is the same, it's never going faster or slower. Time is more of something we made, just to keep track, I think someone else may have also said what I just said, about it keeping track, but I don't know. I think when you stare at a clock, your subconciously (possibly even conciously) thinking about time, making you notice how slow it really do take an hour to pass, if your not thinking about it, you "lose track" of time. You start to not notice it. Also staring at the clock, trying to have it go faster could eb mind over matter if you believe in that stuff. You were trying to have it feel like it's going by fast, so you were able to convince yourself that it was, and it felt like it went by faster. (this isn't really mind over matter, more of convincing yourself) but I could go on forever, basically, I think times just a measurement, it's always equal to itself, and it always has gone by as fast as it is now, and always will be only this fast…. I guess also, the mind is more powerful then we think, and we can subconciously control things, (when I saw saying about convincing yourslef time goes by faster) and also I think our mind can play tricks on us.

EDIT: just realized there's a second page, I only read the first post on this thread and skimmed over some on the first page.

It has been proven that time speeds up/ slows down when speed is involved.
Put an atomic clock on the ground and another atomic clock in a jet, both saying the same time.
Fly the jet around the world at extremely high speeds and when it gets back, the two clocks will show different times.

From: almost
What if all the times you thought "wow time is going by really fast right now" or "omg time is dragging by so slow" it was actually true?
It happens all the time, and you don't think of it as being literal.
I think it is.
I think time is in motion, with infinite direction, which would explain the slowing of time as your speed increases.
Time has a certain speed, and the closer you get to it the slower time passes.
Once you have passed the speed of time, you no longer exist.
This would explain why nothing could go faster than the speed of light.
So this is how i think time can change for an individual without changing the individual's speed-
Time "flying by" is usually associated with being occupied/ having fun.
Time "dragging by" is usually associated with boredom/ waiting for time to pass.
So maybe your mind has this kind of speed in an infinite direction the way time does.
Speeding up your thoughts is like speeding up your motion.
Or maybe speeding up your motion is just speeding up your mind, and actually moving has nothing to do with it.
I believe two people could be in a room, one watching a movie, the other staring at a wall.
They stay in the room for a "universal hour", or one hour on a clock.
I say universal hour because our judgments of time are based on a clock.
But how do we know that an hour has passed for both people?
I found a quote from Einstein that scared me-
“There is no such thing as a “now” that is independent of some system of reference.
No one can assume his or her subject sense of “now” applies throughout the universe.
Instead, every reference body has its own particular time.”
So i do believe the person staring at the wall was in the room for more than an hour.
And the person watching the movie was in the room for less than an hour.
But in universal time, or the clock, it was just an hour.
So a clock is a reference for showing time on earth with no other factors, such as motion or thought.
I do think the spinning of earth and the motion it is in changes the way time is on earth and makes it
different than it would be on another planet, which is why i say it is a reference for earth.
This part of the quote-
“There is no such thing as a “now” that is independent of some system of reference."
i believe is talking about how we use clocks.
When you say something is happening "now" your are talking about it is happening at the same time a clock
shows a certain time.
But "now" for you is different from the "now" of another person.
I could see in the future there being some way to travel at the speed of light and do something that stops your thoughts completely.
Then time would be standing still around you.
You could look at people who are actually in motion as you pass them, but they would be standing still.
An hour to you is like a second to the things around you. (just for example)
But to you, a second just seems to pass by like a normal second.
So maybe this theory means that there could be two people who both die on their 50th birthday.
If one of them lived a very boring life, he could have actually live for 51 years.
Then maybe the other one worked as a pilot and travelled on jets all day at really high speeds and had fun doing it.
Maybe he lived for 49 years.
But "universal time" says they both lived for 50 years.
Just like the quote says, all judgments of time have to based on something else.
Because think about it, there is no way to measure time, assuming it changes under different circumstances.
So we have to base it on one certain thing, the clock.
Here's another part of my theory and another quote from Einstein.
"Things can only be considered simultaneous in your own immediate environment"
How do you ever know two events are sumultaneous?
I think this is saying that things can be simultaneous to YOU but not necessarily to all other viewers.
Time is relative rather than absolute (the theory of relativity)
So it can happen.
Here is probably the most interesting thing i have ever read- (Scroll to the part called "Cosmic trains")
http://personal.tcu.edu/~dingram/edu/pine2.html
It is an idea thought up by Einstein about the theory of relativity, and shows exactly what i was saying.

This all came to me today in school, trying to do something i never was able to do until today.
I have wanted to go through an entire class period without looking away from the clock.
I usually last 10 minutes and i give up because it seems like an hour.
But this time i was deep deep in thought.
The 10 minutes had just passed right by, and the whole time i was just thinking of how it could be different this one time.
It had to be because staring at a clock is boring and thoughtless, and time literally goes by slower somehow from this.
Well that's about about all i've got for right now.

Edit:
I was pretty disappointed to click on that link and read the top part and see that other people have obviously theorized the same thing.
Oh well though, i thought of this exactly how i said.

one more reason why you should not smoke crack…:p

From: Dan Cardin
that doesnt make sense. if god knows what happens then we really dont have freewill. If he can know whats going happen, and its always right then its not freewill. and if he knows whats going to happen then its already determained and set in stone.

The difference lies in the fact that he does not make us make a decision.

one more reason why you should not smoke crack…

Lol ya once i get that pipe going i start coming up with these insane ideas,
and they always make a little less sense the next day…

From: sirlaughsalot
The difference lies in the fact that he does not make us make a decision.

if he doesnt make us make decisions, then he cant know exactly what will happen. I have all sorts of arguements for this, but i dont want to hijack this thread(though god is kind of related to God).

Almost, can you see the matrix?…

@[-Jesus-] Why do you still have that in your avatar… It's forbidden…

From: Orbital
Almost, can you see the matrix?…

@[-Jesus-] Why do you still have that in your avatar… It's forbidden…

Have what? a pic from my sig??? What is wrong with it….

BlueberryJam made it… thats what…