Lots of Jr Members?More req posts?
Dracody
2008-05-06 11:57:29
Ive seen lots of Srl Jr Members now a days after the fix , maybe the requiered posts should be rised, because 10 posts are not hard to reach, and well , there are lots of spammers, and well I dont know, give your opinion…
Mine is that the posts for becoming Srl Jr Member should be rised to a moderated number, not "spammable" and not to hard to get, I would suggest 20 -25…so well VOTE!! and give suggestions :D
Something that shows that someone like Me , Brain, Sweetleaf, Infidel00, king of the nites , has been a loyal member of this community, not so new and not yet a Member
Infidel00
2008-05-06 12:10:52
That might be a good thing to prevent those 'undeserving' of the title from achieving it to easily.
I say you bring up a good point. Posting ten times is very easy, and can be done by botting for one week and posting progress reports each day, which is not that hard of a task. Perhaps is should be looked into.
*off topic, but only by a bit* As of yesterday I was only a community member, but now I am a Jr Member. I never thought I really deserved much more than a community member since I submitted one awful script, post progress reports and give opinions. Oh well, hooray for me now!*
OmgThatOne
2008-05-06 12:13:40
I agree.
As a new member myself I thaught the boards requirements were quite low compared to others.
I think it's good for new members like myself who want to learn how to bot and produce scripts.
Posotives and Negatives
I voted yes though :)
Dracody
2008-05-06 12:21:14
Yeah "Undeserving" is a good meaning of what Im saying, because many of those Registered Users Just Spamm 10 posts for the Title and nothing else, Not like us that keep on posting trying to learn , help and be usefull for this awsome community…:D:D
From: Infidel00
That might be a good thing to prevent those 'undeserving' of the title from achieving it to easily.
I say you bring up a good point. Posting ten times is very easy, and can be done by botting for one week and posting progress reports each day, which is not that hard of a task. Perhaps is should be looked into.
*off topic, but only by a bit* As of yesterday I was only a community member, but now I am a Jr Member. I never thought I really deserved much more than a community member since I submitted one awful script, post progress reports and give opinions. Oh well, hooray for me now!*
Anyways there is a section
Free For All Scripts
From: OmgThatOne
I agree.
As a new member myself I thaught the boards requirements were quite low compared to others.
I think it's good for new members like myself who want to learn how to bot and produce scripts.
Posotives and Negatives
I voted yes though :)
sirlaughsalot
2008-05-06 12:41:03
I think so, maybe increase it and if they dont post a report on a thread 4-5 days after they downloaded it then they should be demoted, or something like that
I don't really know I mean this could split into 2 scenario's I mean common if its 25 posts then People will spam more.. On the Other Hand…
Starblaster100
2008-05-06 13:48:39
We added the requirements, because we didn't just want people registering at the forums, taking all of the scripts and then leaving. It encourages them to post, and stay active because they know they will then be rewarded with better scripts.
Runescapian321
2008-05-06 16:17:37
I have two ideas…
Idea 1
I don't know if this is pushing it…but maybe we could add another level? Like say SRL New Member before Jr. Member or something. So SRL New Member could be like the Jr. Member system we have now (10 posts, 1 week of registration). Basically it would be almost the exact same thing as the Jr. Member system now. Then, at say 75-100 posts and 3 weeks of registration, there could be Jr. Member. We could encourage scripters to put nearly flawless scripts in the Jr. Member section, then the scripts that are a work in progress in the New Member section. This way, the interest of people would still be high, since they're getting banking scripts after 10 posts, but they would want to continue contributing.
Idea 2
Make something like after you have your 10 posts/1 week of registration that you have to stay above 20-40% activity to continue having access to the Jr. Member scripts. You might say "What if I want to take a break from SRL for a while?", that could be a problem, but if you would take the time to learn to script and become an SRL Member, you wouldn't have to worry about it. If not, then you'll have to suffer the consequenses :)
All in all, I don't think rasiing the req postcount will help much :\
Brain
2008-05-06 16:50:37
meh, I don't care, I think it should be left the way it is. I mean, the definition of a junior member is 10 posts 1 week, and now that the system is actually working, you start complaining :p
oh well, I noticed you mentioned me in your post :p
BKNYKavkaz
2008-05-06 17:20:13
From: Runescapian
I have two ideas…
Idea 1
I don't know if this is pushing it…but maybe we could add another level? Like say SRL New Member before Jr. Member or something. So SRL New Member could be like the Jr. Member system we have now (10 posts, 1 week of registration). Basically it would be almost the exact same thing as the Jr. Member system now. Then, at say 75-100 posts and 3 weeks of registration, there could be Jr. Member. We could encourage scripters to put nearly flawless scripts in the Jr. Member section, then the scripts that are a work in progress in the New Member section. This way, the interest of people would still be high, since they're getting banking scripts after 10 posts, but they would want to continue contributing.
I am 100% for this idea.
fearmi
2008-05-06 18:06:39
Well thats is why there is member these first scripts aren't that good junior member should be earned i agree with you guys on that but i still think that there should be better first scripts.
P1nky
2008-05-06 18:33:31
this has been discussed alot in members section. and we all agreed on saying NO. this will cause more spamming. and what can they post proggies lol (tbh thats only option leechers have since, they dont know nothing about scripting and just want to leech /didnt we all started by that, cuz I did)
Runescapian321
2008-05-06 18:40:18
From: Runescapian
I have two ideas…
Idea 1
I don't know if this is pushing it…but maybe we could add another level? Like say SRL New Member before Jr. Member or something. So SRL New Member could be like the Jr. Member system we have now (10 posts, 1 week of registration). Basically it would be almost the exact same thing as the Jr. Member system now. Then, at say 75-100 posts and 3 weeks of registration, there could be Jr. Member. We could encourage scripters to put nearly flawless scripts in the Jr. Member section, then the scripts that are a work in progress in the New Member section. This way, the interest of people would still be high, since they're getting banking scripts after 10 posts, but they would want to continue contributing.
Idea 2
Make something like after you have your 10 posts/1 week of registration that you have to stay above 20-40% activity to continue having access to the Jr. Member scripts. You might say "What if I want to take a break from SRL for a while?", that could be a problem, but if you would take the time to learn to script and become an SRL Member, you wouldn't have to worry about it. If not, then you'll have to suffer the consequenses :)
Idea 3
Keep the same thing, but to stay Jr. Member you have to spend time on the board. Every week, those that have spent less than like 2-5 hours on the forums are De-Jr. Membered. This would keep people from spamming and might encourage reading tuts (hopefully on scripting) to pass the time. Same as Idea 2, you would have to become an SRL Member to keep this from affecting you (esp. when you go away/inactive for a bit).
Dracody
2008-05-06 19:17:01
I TOTALLY SUPPORT RUNESCAPIAN'S IDEA 1 :D
From: Runescapian
I have two ideas…
Idea 1
I don't know if this is pushing it…but maybe we could add another level? Like say SRL New Member before Jr. Member or something. So SRL New Member could be like the Jr. Member system we have now (10 posts, 1 week of registration). Basically it would be almost the exact same thing as the Jr. Member system now. Then, at say 75-100 posts and 3 weeks of registration, there could be Jr. Member. We could encourage scripters to put nearly flawless scripts in the Jr. Member section, then the scripts that are a work in progress in the New Member section. This way, the interest of people would still be high, since they're getting banking scripts after 10 posts, but they would want to continue contributing.
King of the Nites
2008-05-06 20:03:41
I like runescapains idea #1 but I think that they should make the requirements for the junior member should be just that they have completed (or have tried to script and have maybe a partial script done like me…). It would almost be like getting srl members but you would only have to show that you can grasp the basic scripting requirements. Which would be just creating something more than just a autotalker or autologger. Maybe just like a power cutter or powerminer. Or even just an average banking script.( i say average because if it was over average then you could apply for members…). I think this would create some more scripters. We could have like SRL memberz(and above) would just check the script to see if it is not copied or just an autotalker.
P.S. Can i have my name added to the list at the first post of the more active Junior Memberz??
Dan Cardin
2008-05-06 20:41:29
i think that adding new ranks, or upping the post count would help. Jr. Member's only purpose is to replace registered users but make sure that people cant just anonymously/randomly register and never post. With the 10 posts it at least assures that we know who's here.
If you really wanted to do something, then upping the amount of time(1 week), or having them keep a activity of 50% for the first 2-3 weeks.
I dont love either of those two ideas, but that(the second one) would be my pick if someone was to do something.
One thing i'd like to know, is if non-junior members have access to tutorials, because if they dont then i think that should be changed
King of the Nites
2008-05-06 20:54:31
From: Dan Cardin
i think that adding new ranks, or upping the post count would help. Jr. Member's only purpose is to replace registered users but make sure that people cant just anonymously/randomly register and never post. With the 10 posts it at least assures that we know who's here.
If you really wanted to do something, then upping the amount of time(1 week), or having them keep a activity of 50% for the first 2-3 weeks.
I dont love either of those two ideas, but that(the second one) would be my pick if someone was to do something.
One thing i'd like to know, is if non-junior members have access to tutorials, because if they dont then i think that should be changed
I am pretty sure they get access to the Beginner Tutorials. Yea they should just up the amount of posts or time spent
sweetleaf
2008-05-06 21:52:28
I voted yes, and i didn't even read the whole post lol. just saw the title and that was enough for me. I mean everyday i see alot of "jr" members acting like leechers and what not, not even taking the time to look at the tut's or try and figure something out themselves.
I also support runscapians first idea, ( i was actually thinking about the post to be at 100 before i even read your comment haha, great minds think alike ;) ) .
and thank you Dracody for including me in that list. I didn't think anyone really noticed me around here haha.
off topic//
oh and btw i just noticed i got over 300 posts, idk when that happened tho lol. yay for me. lol.
Starblaster100
2008-05-07 05:15:27
We will not be adding in another level between JSRL and Registered users. It has already been discussed and rejected by staff
NiCbaZ
2008-05-07 05:18:38
close? no point keeping this open now?
Dan Cardin
2008-05-07 07:05:14
From: king of the nites
I am pretty sure they get access to the Beginner Tutorials.
if thats true then im kinda mad. They should have access to all the tutorials. If some people choose to put scripts in their tuts then so be it. Learning shouldnt have a cap :)
Daniel
2008-05-07 07:11:18
On
my forums you can't become a senior user (which is similar to Junior Member) unless you have 25 posts and have been registered for 5 days. Maybe impliment something similar to this forum as mine?
EDIT: King of the nites: They have access to
all of the tutorials but can only post in the beginners tutorials (same as you guys).
n3ss3s
2008-05-07 10:16:11
On my forums you can't become a senior user (which is similar to Junior Member) unless you have 25 posts and have been registered for 5 days. Maybe impliment something similar to this forum as mine?
Epic, that is the
same as Junior member requirements, except for they are 7 days and 10 posts.
Spammers are being taken care of, and now Hobbit has Claw with him too.
Dracody
2008-05-07 12:00:30
Woot! a post from the new Dev n33s3s its a honour :D, hehe
well I guess members dont care about the jr memer or this , but most of us, Jr Members that have been here long time do care, so well, I dont Know what about the votes? :confused:
I hope there is something to do about this to make us all happy:D
XxXx Toxin XxXx
2008-05-07 16:01:53
From: Dracody
Woot! a post from the new Dev n33s3s its a honour :D, hehe
well I guess members dont care about the jr memer or this , but most of us, Jr Members that have been here long time do care, so well, I dont Know what about the votes? :confused:
I hope there is something to do about this to make us all happy:D
I honestly wouldn't consider 4-5 months a long time… Those that have been around since the board started, I think they should have access to many more things other just than either SRL-Members, or SRL-Jr. Members. Personally, I'd say that there should be a 25 post, with 14 days to become an SRL-Jr. Member, but that's just my opinion, and as Starblaster said, it won't happen… ah well :)
Dracody
2008-05-07 23:58:39
Yeah , well I suppose the votes mean something, hmm…. I think people that voted no, its because they dont care about it , its the same for them , they might mostly be SRL Members, and most of people who voted yes may be people like me, SRL Jr Members with good activity and interest on this community, but well , the staff is the one wh ohas the last word, I used this thread to suggest something, I like the results and well, Let the staff decide or say anything here :D
Macrosoft
2008-05-08 01:36:11
From: Runescapian
I have two ideas…
Idea 1
I don't know if this is pushing it…but maybe we could add another level? Like say SRL New Member before Jr. Member or something. So SRL New Member could be like the Jr. Member system we have now (10 posts, 1 week of registration). Basically it would be almost the exact same thing as the Jr. Member system now. Then, at say 75-100 posts and 3 weeks of registration, there could be Jr. Member. We could encourage scripters to put nearly flawless scripts in the Jr. Member section, then the scripts that are a work in progress in the New Member section. This way, the interest of people would still be high, since they're getting banking scripts after 10 posts, but they would want to continue contributing.
Idea 2
Make something like after you have your 10 posts/1 week of registration that you have to stay above 20-40% activity to continue having access to the Jr. Member scripts. You might say "What if I want to take a break from SRL for a while?", that could be a problem, but if you would take the time to learn to script and become an SRL Member, you wouldn't have to worry about it. If not, then you'll have to suffer the consequenses :)
All in all, I don't think rasiing the req postcount will help much :\
both good ideas
HyperSecret
2008-05-08 03:21:01
seriously no need to bitch/complain for something to get done. It reminds me how some of the SRL Members whined when BenLand and the other admins decided to give YOU, the public (Jr Members, Registered Users), the ability of using SMART. They are spammers will always be spammers just to get to the next level, will just cause more spam and if you really want 'more' privileges/superiority then learn to script better and become an SRL Member…
pure.
2008-05-09 08:25:58
I have voted yes, tho I am not ranked junior member yet. This forum has a lot to offer, and people should work and contribute to this community.
Dracody
2008-05-09 13:23:53
From: HyperSecret
seriously no need to bitch/complain for something to get done. It reminds me how some of the SRL Members whined when BenLand and the other admins decided to give YOU, the public (Jr Members, Registered Users), the ability of using SMART. They are spammers will always be spammers just to get to the next level, will just cause more spam and if you really want 'more' privileges/superiority then learn to script better and become an SRL Member…
Okey….its a honour to have a post from HyperSecret :D:D well I dont know Ill just wait until some dev or admin gives a final decision and reply to this , hehe, anyways…thanks to everyone for posting:D
vikrant60
2008-05-09 16:59:08
Yeah sounds alright, i would love to see a change in the posts.
But i also think they should have like some type of spam checker, it like checks out how many posts you have done in one day and were they spam, well idk maby. :D
andrewrox424
2008-05-09 21:19:16
I totally agree. I reached 10 posts in less than 2 days. And a lot of spam goes undetected. Could there be an option to make it 25 posts in the Public Forum section? Because I also see loads of posts from new users in the Waste of Time Out section, where you can practically do anything. Good idea, 25 posts is what should be needed.
fearmi
2008-05-10 11:59:45
I have a question with this poll that was answered to yes. will it be changed or is it going to stay the same?? what happened or is this just to know ppls opinions?
King of the Nites
2008-05-10 13:19:25
From: fearmi
I have a question with this poll that was answered to yes. will it be changed or is it going to stay the same?? what happened or is this just to know ppls opinions?
It is basically just to view peoples opinions. Who knows… Maybe it could be changed.
Hobbit
2008-05-10 13:27:20
As star said we've already discussed and decided against it.
There are already a lot of different levels in SRL and adding one more would just create more division and stress for us :p..not to mention and even greater influx of spam.
Closed.