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idea to solve unsolveable randoms


PvH

2008-04-02 12:24:34

hi everyone
i got an idea how to solve unsolvable randoms such as the school random (morbaut)
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i am sorry if this is posted in the wrong sections, but i tought it should be posted here, since this has to do with rs updates and srl.
if it is in the wrong section, could a moderater/an admin move my tread please to the right section?
thanks:)
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please note.. im not a scripter yet, still learning how to script.
if everyone makes a picture (printscreen) of the unsolveable randoms he/she get, and post it here..
maybe we can make bitmaps/dtm of texts/moving things to click
i'll explain what i mean:
if you get teleported by morbaut…
he says something to you
for example: never leave home without some sort of jewelry
than someone who get that message… makes a picture of it.
posts it here..
maybe we can create a bitmap/dtm or whatever to find that text : jewelry and the right items to click and make a solver for it.
if you get, pick the odd one out, also make a picture and post it here
maybe we can make a dtm/bitmap of it.. it searches for the odd one by a bitmap/dtm and clicks if found.
if not found.. it clicks away… on the ground.. and clicks morbaut again and it might find a solveable one:D
if you get a random like leo (the new bones one)
it works like this:
it picks up all gravethings (don't know the exact name of that, but it is the thing you have to pick out of the grave)
if it got all..
it clicks on a gravestone…
it searches for a bitmap/dtm and when it finds a chef hat, and other cooking things.. it knows that it is the cooking one.
than it clicks on all gravethings in inventory untill it finds the cooking one.
it places it in the grave and it does that again with the others..
when done.. it goes to leo and completes;)
it is just an idea… i am not sure if it is possible… but please tell me whether it is or not.
i just wanted to contribute my idea to you and it was ment to help the community.. if i posted in wrong section, sorry… and if it ain't possible.. sorry again
please tell me if its possible;)

Richard

2008-04-02 13:46:25

Well, Naum was working on it but no-one send print screens of what happened so he couldn't finish it.

PvH

2008-04-02 13:49:55

From: Dude Richard
Well, Naum was working on it but no-one send print screens of what happened so he couldn't finish it.


so, if i understand you right.. it is possible?

nielsie95

2008-04-02 14:00:33

Leo is solved by SKy Scripter. Boreas started a project to collect as many bitmaps of mordaut as possible. He got quite far (a few gigabytes, I believe), but he lost all of it due a crash. Unforunately, I don't think a bitmap or DTM will be enough to recognize the picture ;) It has to be done the same way certer, box, quiz, etc. are done. I think Mordaut can be done, but it will take a huge effort and lots of time.

M_Back

2008-04-02 15:01:32

This is a great idea. :)
So all you need to make bitmaps is screen pictures? If so, then I will start to collect from Morbaut and post here when i get some.
Should i take a few pictures from each question so you get the moving stuff from differente angles?

PvH

2008-04-02 15:46:35

From: nielsie95
Leo is solved by SKy Scripter. Boreas started a project to collect as many bitmaps of mordaut as possible. He got quite far (a few gigabytes, I believe), but he lost all of it due a crash. Unforunately, I don't think a bitmap or DTM will be enough to recognize the picture ;) It has to be done the same way certer, box, quiz, etc. are done. I think Mordaut can be done, but it will take a huge effort and lots of time.


it is already solved?
cool(h) i did not know that =O
will it come in rev 15?
since it did not solve for me in rev 14 :p
why wouldnt it recognize the pictures?
just wondering why not
anyway.. thanks for your feedback
by the way: is this in the right section?

MylesMadness

2008-04-02 16:22:18

it's in members now but yeah #15 it will be solved

P1nky

2008-04-02 17:49:44

its possible and great idea :)

lakerzz8

2008-04-02 19:10:14

Doesn't someone have a whole program that takes special pictures and he asked for our accounts? Forgot which Admin it was. But I don't think regular print screen pictures help..

sirlaughsalot

2008-04-02 20:42:45

From: pvh
hi everyone
i got an idea how to solve unsolvable randoms such as the school random (morbaut)
______________________________________________________________
i am sorry if this is posted in the wrong sections, but i tought it should be posted here, since this has to do with rs updates and srl.
if it is in the wrong section, could a moderater/an admin move my tread please to the right section?
thanks:)
______________________________________________________________
please note.. im not a scripter yet, still learning how to script.
if everyone makes a picture (printscreen) of the unsolveable randoms he/she get, and post it here..
maybe we can make bitmaps/dtm of texts/moving things to click
i'll explain what i mean:
if you get teleported by morbaut…
he says something to you
for example: never leave home without some sort of jewelry
than someone who get that message… makes a picture of it.
posts it here..
maybe we can create a bitmap/dtm or whatever to find that text : jewelry and the right items to click and make a solver for it.
if you get, pick the odd one out, also make a picture and post it here
maybe we can make a dtm/bitmap of it.. it searches for the odd one by a bitmap/dtm and clicks if found.
if not found.. it clicks away… on the ground.. and clicks morbaut again and it might find a solveable one:D
if you get a random like leo (the new bones one)
it works like this:
it picks up all gravethings (don't know the exact name of that, but it is the thing you have to pick out of the grave)
if it got all..
it clicks on a gravestone…
it searches for a bitmap/dtm and when it finds a chef hat, and other cooking things.. it knows that it is the cooking one.
than it clicks on all gravethings in inventory untill it finds the cooking one.
it places it in the grave and it does that again with the others..
when done.. it goes to leo and completes;)
it is just an idea… i am not sure if it is possible… but please tell me whether it is or not.
i just wanted to contribute my idea to you and it was ment to help the community.. if i posted in wrong section, sorry… and if it ain't possible.. sorry again
please tell me if its possible;)


If you dont solve it doesnt it go on? like the mime random, if you just stand there and dont answer, it goes to another one.

PvH

2008-04-03 02:07:38

in morbaut.. no it doesnt.. it just waits.. if you click on the ground and click on the teacher again… it will give a new question.
but can someone tell me please:
how does srl fix boxes.. since i really tought about how srl would fix that:
i came to 2 solutions: or with bitmaps… (searches for question, than for answer)
or it works with a database.. if question = what number is triangle
than answer = 5
or something like that
if you dont want to explain me, since jagex can see that too with a spy..
than simply dont:p
i was just asking
thanks all for your feedback anyway

KoKouKo

2008-04-03 02:13:20

You can go into your include files and look at the coding :duh:

I looked at it, there's some BMPs some Color finding and some other stuff I don't understand :p

Markus

2008-04-03 06:54:15

The problem with Mordaut is there are 30+ items to identify, and lots of different combinations. I believe (rough estimate) there are around 100 different questions/combinations, which will make it pretty hard to do.

PvH

2008-04-03 10:58:45

From: KoKouKo
You can go into your include files and look at the coding :duh:

I looked at it, there's some BMPs some Color finding and some other stuff I don't understand :p


lol.. of course i did that :duh:
but i didn't understand it that wel.. thats why i asked:redface:

@markus
are there that many questions =O
i tought like 30
well.. thats why we will need pictures i think
if we all do it together, and email it to an emailadress
(I can be the collecter of all those images)
and maybe someone can fix it with the pictures
thanks for you opinion;)

nielsie95

2008-04-03 11:17:46

From: pvh

how does srl fix boxes.. since i really tought about how srl would fix that:
i came to 2 solutions: or with bitmaps… (searches for question, than for answer)
or it works with a database.. if question = what number is triangle
than answer = 5


SRL doesn't use bitmaps, nor a database to solve the box. It uses a plugin to recognize the shape or number. No bitmaps, just pure coding.

PvH

2008-04-03 11:43:38

From: nielsie95
SRL doesn't use bitmaps, nor a database to solve the box. It uses a plugin to recognize the shape or number. No bitmaps, just pure coding.


thanks for telling me:)
but.. woow…without bitmaps/dtms/database… only pure coding.. woow man..
the peron(s) who made that code are genious!
i wish i could script that..
very nice done srl developers!
anyway:
back to topic..
should i make an emailadress where people can send the pictures to or should i just leave the idea how it is..because its not possible?

Bobarkinator

2008-04-03 17:14:47

From: pvh
thanks for telling me:)
but.. woow…without bitmaps/dtms/database… only pure coding.. woow man..
the peron(s) who made that code are genious!
i wish i could script that..
very nice done srl developers!
anyway:
back to topic..
should i make an emailadress where people can send the pictures to or should i just leave the idea how it is..because its not possible?


Benland100, also the creator of SMART ;)

Hurgymcgurgygurg

2008-04-03 21:32:13

It might work with an extremely large data base of bmp's and dtm's, just wouldn't it cause extreme lag? Since it would need to look through hundreds of them to identify all items?

R0b0t1

2008-04-03 22:01:04

They are solveable, I wish people would acknowledge that.


They're not as easy, true, but it can still be done.

PvH

2008-04-04 12:14:02

From: R0b0t1
They are solveable, I wish people would acknowledge that.


They're not as easy, true, but it can still be done.


well… i know that it might be solveable, but coding would be hard
should i make the emailadress or not?

King of the Nites

2008-04-13 14:19:58

yea i think you should make an email address, it would be good to get one or 2 of these randoms to be solved.