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Hello all,
I'm working on a scar project as you can see form the thread title and I realised I just can't do this all by myself, as I have no knowledge in certain stuff.

I'm looking for around 5 SCAR scripters( I need someone to help with the conenction the server) and 1 Java Programmer.

Currently i'm working on a map editor, which is near to being complete.

Edit: I've attached my current source of what I've done so far. Yes I know, it's one buggy and laggy script, memory leaks and out of range errors everywhere:eek:
If you manage to fix something please post how you did it ;)*hint hint*

As in you need a server for it to connect to?

I might be able to help, do you have any ideas how it will be like ?

Could you give more info on the game itself.. I can be the scar coder, if it is interesting.

I was thinking more as to build the base engine first before we get into developemnt of the game play features.
@Hy71194: No, I need someone to help me code the conenction for a multi-client server as I'm not that good at SCAR's connection.

From: HISTORY
I was thinking more as to build the base engine first before we get into developemnt of the game play features.
@Hy71194: No, I need someone to help me code the conenction for a multi-client server as I'm not that good at SCAR's connection.

You would need a PHP coder for that? Or do you want to let scar connect to all the other players of the game?

As about the engine, I made a mario.. But I guess it kinda depends on the game what kind of engine you would like.. Like where is the camera..

I was thinking Clients-?->Server(Also made in SCAR) -via Java->SQL
EDIT: 2D view, I'll be doing it RPG-ish.
EDIT2: and by 2d I mean from the top, Pokemon type of view.

Java->SQL?

I think it would be better to use sockets? :)

just use rpgmaker xp xD if you wanna make a pokemon kind lol!

need an delphi coder? (i don't think so)

I can help connect to the server to.. ( I practiced alot with Post and Get Data via scar ) :) i added you on msn plz accept :P

Ofcourse were going to use sockets, so we will need some pluginzors to open connections..

The server would be a bit hard to write, it'll need to be in something like C or whatever, something not intepreted and with threading support, and use sockets.
I don't think PHP is an option, a query every 50ms? It'll kill your server in notime, not to mention all the useless data you transmit. Some active communication protocol works better then. Plugin is recommend so you can create another thread which listens for the incoming server messages, and to not hang the game when we send a message.

Ofcourse were going to use sockets, so we will need some pluginzors to open connections..

Or use SCAR's OpenConnection?

As you say Wizzup, when I figure that out =/
Rpgmaker is a very limited tool .

Please add me on msn: [email]evilkukka@gmail.com[/email] whoever wants to help.
I'm open to any suggestions for client server communication.

I also can offer free hosting with 100Gb data traffic :) up to 5gb i think maybe more if i need less myself

Sounds great, Dumpin :)

From: n3ss3s
Or use SCAR's OpenConnection?

I've tried that before but something wasn't completly working, forgot what it was though..

oh about hosting i got 300gigs a month bandwidth too.
anda pokemon rpg style game on scar would be like the coolest thing EVER =D

I'm not doing a pokemon themed game. I was reffering to how the view from the player will be.

From: HISTORY
I'm not doing a pokemon themed game. I was reffering to how the view from the player will be.

It shouldn't be that hard… Only good graphics will be a pain :rolleyes:

I know it isn't.
And graphics shouldn't be THAT hard either. :)

dam some one needs to teach me a other language :(

well what the game suppose to be about

I can host servers!!!

I have very good computer that can run server for about 300 people!

From: infested999
I can host servers!!!

I have very good computer that can run server for about 300 people!

Excuse me, but how would you know how many people the server could host if you have no idea how it's built O.o ;)

Currently working on the map editor, it be a pain.

I've decided to make this a public project, where I'll post all the sources on this forum, and anyone can make procedures and post them here. :)
*attaches rar file on first post*

oh history i can do graphics if you want ^_^ just pm what you have in mind, i'll make some thing and you can tell me if you need any thing changed =D

cool, thanks :) But right now, I gotta get the main code fully functional <.<

If you plan on using 32x32 graphics, I got a whole load of character & land sprited from back in the day of making MMORPG's (The character sprites even have animation for walking :)).
Anyway, will check out the code quickly and see if I can spot any improvements.
Edit: My eyes, they burn!
main.scar - add the dot - . - to the second include (you missed it out) and I think you forgot to include general in it.
mapedit.scar - I keep getting access violation problems and I think it's because of the procedures you try to run while the form is open and should maybe close the form and run them outside (will play with it for a bit). Also, may be an idea to make a 'map setup' form, so it's easier to see what the general overview of it and it will also allow you to change things and explain what each setting does.
Anyway, it's looking like a good start with lots of complicated code that I'm too tired to go through at the moment but will probably checkout tomorrow.

Lastly, for anyone else who dares, you have to unzip into your scar uncludes folder (but not into SRL) otherwsie none of the files will work as they will look into the includes folder and fail miserably.

soybds food but changeling as hell I wish u the best of luck

From: mixster05
If you plan on using 32x32 graphics, I got a whole load of character & land sprited from back in the day of making MMORPG's (The character sprites even have animation for walking :)).
Anyway, will check out the code quickly and see if I can spot any improvements.
Edit: My eyes, they burn!
main.scar - add the dot - . - to the second include (you missed it out) and I think you forgot to include general in it.
mapedit.scar - I keep getting access violation problems and I think it's because of the procedures you try to run while the form is open and should maybe close the form and run them outside (will play with it for a bit). Also, may be an idea to make a 'map setup' form, so it's easier to see what the general overview of it and it will also allow you to change things and explain what each setting does.
Anyway, it's looking like a good start with lots of complicated code that I'm too tired to go through at the moment but will probably checkout tomorrow.

Lastly, for anyone else who dares, you have to unzip into your scar uncludes folder (but not into SRL) otherwsie none of the files will work as they will look into the includes folder and fail miserably.

main.scar is not really something I was working on. Just started doing something but closed it to work on the map editor.

As for mapedit.scar, I don't know what to do to get it running :s when i get the access violation it always takes me to map.scar on where I use the SafeDrawBitmap.

Yeah I should make a form for the map settings, but not right now.

Use an SVN, works way easier.

sounds interesting I would try it hehe :p

Deffently go with it :garfield:

Managed to get the mapeditor form kind of working. You forgot to do the SafeShowFormModal etc. So it had errors. Here's the code you need to write over your current safe form:

procedure SafeForm;
var
  v: TVariantArray;
begin
  setarraylength(V, 0);
  ThreadSafeCall('frm1',v);
end;

procedure ShowFormModal;
begin
  MapEdit.ShowModal;
end;

procedure SafeShowFormModal;
var
  v: TVariantArray;
begin
  setarraylength(V, 0);
  ThreadSafeCall('ShowFormModal', v);
end;

then add

SafeShowFormModal;

underneath SafeForm in the main loop and lastly change
'MapEdit.Visible' to false and it should run without any errors.

Edit: I keep getting 'Out of Range' errors when saving or loading maps and I think it's because you use maps[map] but you haven't set maps anywhere, so maps still has a length of 0 as you delcared it as a dynamic array and haven't modified the length anywhere in the procedure or function. To fix it I think you need a loadAllMaps procedure or function that is then called in all of them, but I'm not sure and I wouldn't trust a word I said :)

From: mixster05
Managed to get the mapeditor form kind of working. You forgot to do the SafeShowFormModal etc. So it had errors. Here's the code you need to write over your current safe form:

procedure SafeForm;
var
  v: TVariantArray;
begin
  setarraylength(V, 0);
  ThreadSafeCall('frm1',v);
end;

procedure ShowFormModal;
begin
  MapEdit.ShowModal;
end;

procedure SafeShowFormModal;
var
  v: TVariantArray;
begin
  setarraylength(V, 0);
  ThreadSafeCall('ShowFormModal', v);
end;

then add

SafeShowFormModal;

underneath SafeForm in the main loop and lastly change
'MapEdit.Visible' to false and it should run without any errors.

Edit: I keep getting 'Out of Range' errors when saving or loading maps and I think it's because you use maps[map] but you haven't set maps anywhere, so maps still has a length of 0 as you delcared it as a dynamic array and haven't modified the length anywhere in the procedure or function. To fix it I think you need a loadAllMaps procedure or function that is then called in all of them, but I'm not sure and I wouldn't trust a word I said :)

There's LoadMaps; to load all the maps.
And i made a function called CreateBlankMap; which I think i called it before the form loads, which sets the array, and sets the variables in the memory.

I don't think it's called then - I'll have a look after I eat something and I'll have a play around and see what I can come up with.

From: kelly slater pro surfer
soybds food but changeling as hell I wish u the best of luck

I'm sorry, but…. WHAT?

Sound good, but challenging as hell. I wish you the best of luck

I speak fluent 'odd key to the left' :)

From: branbrans
yea lol

Good way to get banned for spamming.

Guys, keep us updated and if anyone needs a beta tester…*points to himself*

I'm seriously looking for some help now >.>

this sound pretty cool but (no offence) i think this is too much atm.

maybe a single player rpg for now and then you can add a multi feature? not to mention how easy its gonna be to cheat… games that can be cheated are not really played.. possibly the onlything rs2 done right…anyway thats y people comit suicide somtimes…life is a game…they cheated, they won..boring..

If you wanted help, I think it would be best to start from scratch as most of your code is quite complex to some extent and I find it near impossible to read most of it. Also, it may be worth making the map editor in Delphi instead of Scar as it does make it a lot easier (I started to make one a while back and I got it to make a basic map with no attributes or layers though). If you didn't mind starting again, I would be happy to help, but I think it would probably be best to get the main game done before the map editor as that is a quite complex thing to do and the game itself would be much easier to make a beta version of.

From: mixster05
If you wanted help, I think it would be best to start from scratch as most of your code is quite complex to some extent and I find it near impossible to read most of it. Also, it may be worth making the map editor in Delphi instead of Scar as it does make it a lot easier (I started to make one a while back and I got it to make a basic map with no attributes or layers though). If you didn't mind starting again, I would be happy to help, but I think it would probably be best to get the main game done before the map editor as that is a quite complex thing to do and the game itself would be much easier to make a beta version of.

The trick is to do it in scar ;). When scar cannot do it, we got the help off plugins :)

But the problem with Scar is that the built-in form maker isn't quite as easy to use as most Delphi IDE's so making it in Delphi would make it so much easier. Of course you could make it in Scar, but it would require so much extra scripting and makes so many errors (when you go wrong) it makes it pretty hard.
Edit: I thought the idea was to make the Game run in Scar - I'm talking about just the map editor outside of Scar and in Delphi.

From: mixster05
But the problem with Scar is that the built-in form maker isn't quite as easy to use as most Delphi IDE's so making it in Delphi would make it so much easier. Of course you could make it in Scar, but it would require so much extra scripting and makes so many errors (when you go wrong) it makes it pretty hard.
Edit: I thought the idea was to make the Game run in Scar - I'm talking about just the map editor outside of Scar and in Delphi.

To be honest, I never really used scar his form editor :rolleyes:. Some people indeed make DFM's in delphi and then port them to scar.
On the other hand an map editor isn't much of a GUI :p.

i could help with the nameing of npc's?? and the registeration form

and homepage design

From: kelly slater pro surfer
and homepage design

Stop the double posting! This is your last warning.

Gah, GCSEs and personal life problems, no time right now. I'll grab the code, comment it and re-release it for all of you to understand better.

Well, I actually have a working map editor set-up already, so feel free to go through it and steal what you want etc. and re-release it with credits to me (check the 'other scripts' section) though I'm currently rewriting the core code, so I would wait another few hours/day for the new version :)