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Hey,
I was thinking about a way to get around this new rule and i came up with this idea,
First of all, this is not done in 10 seconds, it will take a long time, but it is possible to make a script for it.
You need a little money to start of with, then go to port sarim, buy eye of newts in the magic store, they are about 2gp ea, then go bank them and do that until you got many, Why? Because Eye of Newt is around 85-95gp ea in Grand Exchange, wich means that you can trade bout 12k eye of newt for
1million gp. and it will cost you around 30-50k. I know this will take a veerry long time, thats why I suggest making a script to do that, the only problem with that is , you dont want to auto on your main, but as far as I can see, thats the fastest way to get around the rule.
Thx, / Lindstrom.

thats not getting around the rule, its just a way of getting money right?

i actually like this idea, but yes the problem would be actually auto buying that safely…

There is no buy X option for the eye of newt? Infinite stock?

From: Dan Cardin
thats not getting around the rule, its just a way of getting money right?

no its not, u know, when u have the eye of newt u multi log, trade with your accounts, giving one of the accounts eye of newts, and the other account giving money or stuffs, wich will result in a balanced trade, :)

From: gerauchert
i actually like this idea, but yes the problem would be actually auto buying that safely…

There is no buy X option for the eye of newt? Infinite stock?

Yes there is infinite stock and buy x option :)

oh!…sry so u trade the other person the 30-50k worth of eye of newts and then u sell them for a mil …i like it :)

but arent there already eye of newt buyers? so where would be the problem gerauchert

From: Dan Cardin
oh!…sry so u trade the other person the 30-50k worth of eye of newts and then u sell them for a mil …i like it :)

but arent there already eye of newt buyers? so where would be the problem gerauchert

naaah, i mean if u have 30k eye of newt, then u can trade with your other account stuffs worth 2850000gp, but ye , sure u can make money too, :P

ooooooooooooooooo you are a genious me thinks…

I have yet to see a flaw in this now that there is infinite buy option muahhahahah

Pretty much goes like this:

Auto your army till each char has a few mil on them…

If your main has the money, he goes and buys tons of eye of newt…sells em to each autoer

Cash for your main and if you are lucky you can sell the newt on the grand exchange for a profit for your army

Wunderbar! :D

hehe , thx. please discuss the idea :)

There is also a Buy X option for buckets and unlimited stock in the store. But if you try to buy 50,000 buckets it will give you 28 unnoted buckets, and then you have to go bank them. It should be the same for eye of newts. Even if the store price is still low, you will have to buy 28 at a time and bank them. And although I'm not certain, I would be surprised if the price of eye of newts at the store wasn't the same as the grand exchange price. Every other item that used to be cheap in the store got increased to the GE price or higher after the update. And the trade value between accounts is set by the GE price, also, so you can't make more than 3k by trading them.

I may be wrong, but this plan seems fatally flawed to me.

From: tarajunky
There is also a Buy X option for buckets and unlimited stock in the store. But if you try to buy 50,000 buckets it will give you 28 unnoted buckets, and then you have to go bank them. It should be the same for eye of newts. Even if the store price is still low, you will have to buy 28 at a time and bank them. And although I'm not certain, I would be surprised if the price of eye of newts at the store wasn't the same as the grand exchange price. Every other item that used to be cheap in the store got increased to the GE price or higher after the update. And the trade value between accounts is set by the GE price, also, so you can't make more than 3k by trading them.

I may be wrong, but this plan seems fatally flawed to me.

Actually, it is different prices , i checked it today. :)

u just didn't see the point tara unless you are right and the price was increased. if the price is still 2 at the shops, then you buy 500 eyes from the shop for 1k, but from that you can make about 15 times more money according to the GE

~RM

Eye of newt buyers have been around for a long time. It's a fine way to make money, I suppose, but who wants to walk back and forth and back and forth with your main? You might as well mine iron or clay or smelt bronze bars or something and raise your stats while you're doing it.

And your main can just sell the eye of newt to the Grand Exchange, so no trading is even necessary. It's not a way to circumvent the trading system to transfer money from one account to another, that's all I'm saying.

There ARE ways to auto on your army and use that autoing to then enrich your main within the trade limits. This just isn't one of them.

You can get around the 3k limit, you buy the eyes of newt for 2gp each on your main and sell them to your autoers for 80gp each. It is a balanced trade, and you make a profit.

Jagex monitors the prices of items on the grand exchange… they will either:
A.) Notice people selling 500k eye of newts and say "Why are they doing that?" Then they'll find the 'bug' and fix the price.
B.) Read this post and correct the price in next update.

From: ElPolloFeo92
You can get around the 3k limit, you buy the eyes of newt for 2gp each on your main and sell them to your autoers for 80gp each. It is a balanced trade, and you make a profit.

It's a balanced trade, so you're not really trading any value. If your autoer sells the eye of newt on the GE, they will make the 80 gp back, and end up with the same amount of money. If your main had sold it to the grand exchange instead of to the autoer, they would make the same amount of money as they did by trading.

It would be true if the eye of newts couldn't readily be sold, but they are used in herblore and do sell, so you're better off selling to the grand exchange in the first place.

It's like saying I can go mine iron with my main and trade it to my autoer to get around the trade rules and transfer gold over. Heck that's even better because I don't have to spend 2 gp to get the ore. But I could instead go sell the ore myself and make the same amount of money, so it's really not trading anything.

It's a fine way to make a little bit of cash on your main, if you want to go buy and bank them. Good job noticing the low price. I won't personally be using it because there are ways to make more money faster and level skills at the same time while playing legit, and I don't auto on my main.

Okay, i am an avid runescape player, have been for quite some while now. The value of items is based upon whatever the value in the grand exchange is. So, let's pretend you buy 1500 eyes, for 2gp each (or whatever they are at), and you want to give it to your main. Now, the GE value of it is (for this item i have no clue, so I'm just gonna make a value up) at 40gp, so the 1500 eyes are no longer worth 3,000gp in a trade, but 60,000 gp (1500 eyes x 40gp). This was a pretty nice idea, the only problem is that it won't work (at least not the outsmarting the system) :(
Now, I might be wrong, i estimate those chances at 5% to 10%. Like Tara already said, you could do it with your main, but let's say the prices are really at 2gp from a store and 90 at the GE, you would gain 88gp per item, now, we have 27 free spaces (one space for the cash), and fill them up with eyes: it will make 2376gp for running back and fro with your main. Now, considering that you won't gain any levels, and that there are others ways giving much more cash, it is pretty ineffecient in the long run, not to mention easy to detect/bann. Sorry to destroy this thing, but using repetetive scripts is no longer the way to our solution.

Wont work.
because you
1 have to have all 12k newts on one account.
2 at that point way trade to a autoer account to get that money
because you could just sell the newts at the ge for same amount.
3 at that point youer autoing your main for dozens of hours getting newts, why not just do some tihng else at that point?

From: tarajunky
It's a balanced trade, so you're not really trading any value. If your autoer sells the eye of newt on the GE, they will make the 80 gp back, and end up with the same amount of money. If your main had sold it to the grand exchange instead of to the autoer, they would make the same amount of money as they did by trading.

It would be true if the eye of newts couldn't readily be sold, but they are used in herblore and do sell, so you're better off selling to the grand exchange in the first place.

It's like saying I can go mine iron with my main and trade it to my autoer to get around the trade rules and transfer gold over. Heck that's even better because I don't have to spend 2 gp to get the ore. But I could instead go sell the ore myself and make the same amount of money, so it's really not trading anything.

It's a fine way to make a little bit of cash on your main, if you want to go buy and bank them. Good job noticing the low price. I won't personally be using it because there are ways to make more money faster and level skills at the same time while playing legit, and I don't auto on my main.

I haven't ever sold eyes of newt on the Exchange. I know what you're saying and it's true, I just wouldn't have thought that people would pay 80gp on the exchange instead of going to the store. But, if they do sell, then you should just sell them on the exchange.

i think the question is what is the demand on the grand exchange. if there is like no one buying them for 70gp each, then this is completely pointless. and if you gathered 1k of them and tried to sell them to a low demand, the price will drop.

i do like the idea of an auto buyer for this, would have to have some good walking features, could bank in draynor.

if anyone wants to work with it id be glad to help

Ok, now I have an idea for how to make this actually work. Kind of. :)

So, say you have 10 million gp on your autoer that you want to transfer to your main. You take your main and your autoer down to the shop with only money in the inventory. Main buys 27 eyes, makes even trade to autoer. Autoer drops. Repeat until all the money is transfered to main, and you have a pile of a few thousand eyes on the floor surrounding both your characters.

Pros: No walking. Pretty fast.
Cons: Lots of trading. Lots of dropping. Must multilog.

The trading and dropping on the bot account could be automated, but it's still a whole lot of suspicious behavior. Of course buying, trading, and dropping don't trigger randoms, so perhaps you would never be detected, but suspicious nonetheless.

Again, not something I'll be doing, but it's feasible.

From: tarajunky
Ok, now I have an idea for how to make this actually work. Kind of. :)

So, say you have 10 million gp on your autoer that you want to transfer to your main. You take your main and your autoer down to the shop with only money in the inventory. Main buys 27 eyes, makes even trade to autoer. Autoer drops. Repeat until all the money is transfered to main, and you have a pile of a few thousand eyes on the floor surrounding both your characters.

Pros: No walking. Pretty fast.
Cons: Lots of trading. Lots of dropping. Must multilog.

The trading and dropping on the bot account could be automated, but it's still a whole lot of suspicious behavior. Of course buying, trading, and dropping don't trigger randoms, so perhaps you would never be detected, but suspicious nonetheless.

Again, not something I'll be doing, but it's feasible.

yea, i have to admit that this is better than my idea, but i was thinking that i would use a script IF i wanted to do that, cause then i wont loose time., but anyway, This was an even better idea :) Best would be u have a 2 brothers that could slave for you :P thx

From: mickaliscious
Jagex monitors the prices of items on the grand exchange… they will either:
A.) Notice people selling 500k eye of newts and say "Why are they doing that?" Then they'll find the 'bug' and fix the price.
B.) Read this post and correct the price in next update.

thats true, but people do buy eye of newt for herblore.. so then u can trade like 20k at a time,
ye i will update, newly checked, its 85-95 in GE

tarajunky = genius Thats how you do it! Jagex might have seen this whole thread by now! They will update it! You evil now!

But until they fix i go with my first statement.

From: tarajunky
Ok, now I have an idea for how to make this actually work. Kind of. :)

So, say you have 10 million gp on your autoer that you want to transfer to your main. You take your main and your autoer down to the shop with only money in the inventory. Main buys 27 eyes, makes even trade to autoer. Autoer drops. Repeat until all the money is transfered to main, and you have a pile of a few thousand eyes on the floor surrounding both your characters.

Pros: No walking. Pretty fast.
Cons: Lots of trading. Lots of dropping. Must multilog.

The trading and dropping on the bot account could be automated, but it's still a whole lot of suspicious behavior. Of course buying, trading, and dropping don't trigger randoms, so perhaps you would never be detected, but suspicious nonetheless.

Again, not something I'll be doing, but it's feasible.

Now, it will work, but considering the speed (being able to transfer only 27 eyes at a time, with a total GE value of 2430 if each one is worth 90gp there), it would take a very long time to transfer a million gp, and if you have an autoer army, and you want to transfer that to your main, it is pretty obvious if one guy is buying eyes for a few hours or days, and then trading them off to another peron who pays for them at the correct price, and drops them right away, but it is a pretty good idea to coe up with. :)

In Canifis, there is a raw meat shop right beside the bank. Because of the Dreadfoul summoning (lvl 4) crature, raw chicken is the secondary ingredient needed to create that particular summoning pouch. Because of summoning, the price of raw chicken in the GE is from 44-94, and has been increasing for the past two days. You can run raw chickens from the shop in Canifis to the bank next door until you have several thousand, and sell for a 94% profit.

This works because I made 400k off of this in the past 3 days. Manually, I can get about 2k raw chickens per hour from shop to bank.

I thought this might give you guys another idea to make an autobuyer for? It's a great money maker, so you might want to check it out before demand falls….

~CD.

i might try it with a bot i use:p

What happens when you just drop it on the ground and then log in with your main and pick it up? Instant ban? :eek:

From: Demonhound
What happens when you just drop it on the ground and then log in with your main and pick it up? Instant ban? :eek:

It works but you can only drop 3k at a time. If not, it will just disappear.
Also the GE is not a stable way to trade because you don't actually know who you're trading with.

From: L3ss Than 33

Also the GE is not a stable way to trade because you don't actually know who you're trading with.

ye thats true but who said anything about trading on GE?

From: lindstrom
ye thats true but who said anything about trading on GE?

He said ''Also'', my friend?
Eerik. :)

I don't get how this works????? So you have your autoing account with 1 mill on it, buy eye of newts with it, sell them in the grand exchange, but how does that help get the money to your main?

It doesn't. It is simply a way of making money, like air running and such used to be.

From: lindstrom
ye thats true but who said anything about trading on GE?

I'm responding to other people's comments… not just the original post. If you read the replies to this thread you'll see what I mean.

There is only one problem when you trade a eye of newt is it worth 2gp or 85gp, if it is 2gp I could see this working.

From: Rune Hacker
I don't get how this works????? So you have your autoing account with 1 mill on it, buy eye of newts with it, sell them in the grand exchange, but how does that help get the money to your main?

You've got the concept wrong. If you have 1m on an autoer then you buy eyes on your main. until they equal 1m in value. Since you only buy them for 2 GP each and you can sell them to your autoers for 80 each you can transfer goods to them.

good idea tarajunky XD
script shouldnt be that hard to make for it
dual logging script though, i know nothing of that..

From: squnky
good idea tarajunky XD
script shouldnt be that hard to make for it
dual logging script though, i know nothing of that..

Thats where S.M.A.R.T comes into play :D

dido on the whole script….
im a massive noob so i wouldnt be the best person to help but if u need a tester or something i would be glad to test 4 u. :)

lol i had 100k needles for sale on ge

From: Dan Cardin
thats not getting around the rule, its just a way of getting money right?

Lol. Argeed, Besides that is if you actully manage to sell them. Putting them up for sale isnt gonna get you 1m.

From: death2u
Thats where S.M.A.R.T comes into play :D

shut-up

This is a good idea, it just needs a bit of adustment(spelling?).

Method: Autobuy around 10K Eyes on one of your Auto Army members (best to have it as a member, I think you can buy them close to the bank on PC Isle). Sell them at the regular market price to your main. Then, have your main put them up at the maximum price (minus one GP, to get around the people who sell by clicking the "UP" arrow for the max price) on the G.E. If they sell, then you have just made money. If they don't sell, then you can buy them up on a different autoer.

Pros:
Little contact with autoer
Looks like you're merchanting
Makes moneh! :D
Cons:
Takes a while to get all of those eyes
Requires multi-logging in

This can be repeated with any item that you can easily get by autoing. There *are* some flaws with this, but it works quite nicely if you can find a good item to do this with ;).

~Macro

From: Macro_FTW

Cons:
Takes a while to get all of those eyes
Requires multi-logging in
~Macro

i guess the whole idea though is that the reason you make money is because no one else can be bothered getting all the eyes as it takes to long… this is not much of a problem if someone is skilled enough to write a good script….
:stirthepot:

I just multi-log, buy newts on main, trade for autoers cash, sell the newts on autoer to the store and your autoer gets some more cash to transfer!

disregard my post this topics old

I saw someone say if you do a drop in the falador party room thats less than 50k the drop is not announced. So is this a way to transfer?

You can use the party room to transfer, but it's hard to pop all the balloons with one person. If you have 3 or 4 people helping then it should work great.

I have taken this idea and put it into action. I made a script that will buy the Eye of Newt and bank in draynor.

Here it is.

Pros:
- Autos the newts fast (560 per hour) approximately
- If you cant sell them on the GE for max price, then you buy it at GE max price with an autoer
- Then you can repeat the buy low, sell high process until you make a good chunk of cash

Cons:
- You have to auto on your main to get the newts (I dont mind)
- You have to have some money to run the script (84 gp per load of newts)

Hmm, Multiple SMARTS and interscarmessaging ?

~RAM

Edit: I think people are failing to see…it is not a matter of banking the eyes for future trades, that's pointless, but as Tara explained…

From: tarajunky


So, say you have 10 million gp on your autoer that you want to transfer to your main. You take your main and your autoer down to the shop with only money in the inventory. Main buys 27 eyes, makes even trade to autoer. Autoer drops. Repeat until all the money is transfered to main, and you have a pile of a few thousand eyes on the floor surrounding both your characters.

Except, instead of dropping, do as…

From: zasz
sell the newts on autoer to the store and your autoer gets some more cash to transfer!

suggested

Edit x2:Sorry, yes, the link I posted to interscarmessaging was a link to an old experimental script, I refered to it just as an illistration, that this is possible, but for anyone that is not able to access it…Basically, SCAR already has a function built into it, that allows 2 instances of SCAR to be able to communicate with each other…..So, I believe it to be a good building block for this idea…Realistically allowing both Characters to communicate with each other to complete the trade more proficiently (I.E. they could be confirming that both have completed their trade with the store and are now ready to trade with each other….or, if one gets a random, the other will go into a holding pattern until it solves the random, etc.)

I believe there use to be a sample script for this in SCAR Includes, but I can not locate ATM, but if anyone has it, or cares to make a short example script, I'm sure it would be appreciated.

From: RAM
Hmm, Multiple SMARTS and interscarmessaging ?

~RAM

Edit: I think people are failing to see…it is not a matter of banking the eyes for future trades, that's pointless, but as Tara explained…



Except, instead of dropping, do as…



sugested

The 'interscarmessaging' thing seems to be SRL members only :p

With zasz's idea, wouldn't it be helping your main too, since you could then buy the newts from the player stock for cheaper? (The question is, how much cheaper, ima go find out :))

EDIT: Oh nvm lol, it's just 3ea anyway :p

And when you buy it from player stock it's the same as the GE prices

OR, to make things easier…in G.E fire runes sell 8-9 gp ea. Buy like 10k of em and sell em to your autoer for 17-20 ea?


Edit: My bad! Its the same thing. 10 ea when you trade.

tara, Ive done this before, it does work but instead of dropping sell back to store first you buy 27 eyes on your main at 3gp ea sell to autoer at market price autoer sells to store while main buys more and repeats

Excuse grammar/spelling/typing as i am on my ipod touch

This seems like way too much work to get money on a main whenever the ge can be used pretty easily to make mass amounts of money overnight. I set my account to buy large amounts of items that are readily collected by lower levels but are in high demand by higher levels for skilling. I usually set around 10 mil in buys early in the morning at market price or lower. Log out or train and by the end of the day I have all these items I set to buy.

A majority of players sell at market price because they dont want to wait for max. I set my stuff to sell at night when theirs less people on then and by morning ive sold it at max for either a 50 to 150 gp profit per piece. You can make alot of cash overnight doing this.

If I was going to auto anymore it would be to train good combat skilled accounts with high fishing to sell to people to use in the new pvp games. Sell them on sythe for cash or trade them off for other things outside the game.

Oh ya and dont pm or ask what I merchant on ge because Im not telling. Gotta figure that one out on your on because what Im doing works great. Ive tried alot of stuff though and theres alot you can do. When I started playing again a week ago I had 700k in my bank because I sold 30 something mill off. I sold stuff in my bank to ge to get 4 mil and merchanted and skilled up to over 15 mil in around a week. Its not hard to make cash anymore just toy around with reselling items a bit after buying them market price.

wow this is a great idea, (sorry at first i was like, what a noob lol) another way is to drop the eye of newts right then and there! yes, you are losing about 2gp per, but rofl! this is the best way ive seen!

Matt

From: RAM
Hmm, Multiple SMARTS and interscarmessaging ?

Edit x2:Sorry, yes, the link I posted to interscarmessaging was a link to an old experimental script, I refered to it just as an illistration, that this is possible, but for anyone that is not able to access it…Basically, SCAR already has a function built into it, that allows 2 instances of SCAR to be able to communicate with each other…..So, I believe it to be a good building block for this idea…Realistically allowing both Characters to communicate with each other to complete the trade more proficiently (I.E. they could be confirming that both have completed their trade with the store and are now ready to trade with each other….or, if one gets a random, the other will go into a holding pattern until it solves the random, etc.)

I believe there use to be a sample script for this in SCAR Includes, but I can not locate ATM, but if anyone has it, or cares to make a short example script, I'm sure it would be appreciated.

Iiiiinteresting.
Here's a little example.

Script the first, complete with a fake condition :)

program New;
const
  TradeComplete = True; //In a real script, this would be a function
  
function Receive : boolean;
begin
  if ReadInterScarBoolean('confirmed') then //Is our partner confirming trade completion?
    begin
      Writeln('Partner has confirmed trade completion.'); //yes, hooray!
      Result := True;
    end else
    begin
      Writeln('Partner has not yet confirmed completion.'); //nope, not yet...
      Result := False;
    end;
end;

procedure Send;
begin
  if (TradeComplete) then
    begin
      repeat
        SendInterScarBoolean('complete',True); //Telling our partner that our side is done
        Wait(1000);
      until(Receive); //waiting for them to confirm they're done too
    end else
    SendInterScarBoolean('complete',False); //We're not done yet. (random event?)
end;

begin
  Send;
end.

Second Script:

program New;
const
  TradeComplete = True;
procedure Receive;
begin
  repeat
  if ReadInterSCARBoolean('complete') then //Is the main telling us he's done?
    begin
      if(TradeComplete) then //If the main is done and we're done
        begin
          SendInterSCARBoolean('confirmed',True); //We're done, too, let's tell them
          Break;
        end else
        begin
          SendInterSCARBoolean('confirmed', False); //hold your horses, main, we're not done yet (random event?)
        end;
    end else
    begin
      Writeln('Still awaiting notification of completion...'); //They haven't told us yet
      Wait(500);
    end;
  until(false);
end;

begin
  Receive;
end.