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The Amur situation.


WT-Fakawi

2008-01-06 07:13:15

Amur and I had an interesting convo last night. He pissed me off bigtime. I think it is all part of a plot to incriminate n3ss3s. I allready had contact with n3ss3s, but he swears its not him. I am inclined to believe him. You dont bite the hand thats feeds, no? Anyway, keep on guard. I dont like people throwing me ultimatums…

From: ~~Amur~~
From: WT-Fakawi
From: ~~Amur~~
From: WT-Fakawi
From: ~~Amur~~
How do i fix this SMART error: Line 3: [Error] (5:1): Unknown identifier 'SmartMoveMouse' in script C:\Program Files\SCAR 3.13\includes\SMART.scar . i bought this for 2m from somebody from srl. im not supposed to say his name.


from who, might I ask?


will the guy get in trouble if i tell you? and can you help me first then ill tell you? because i rly wanna get this working because i paid for it.


just tell me who you bought it from please.



with all due respect, id like an answer to my questions b4 giving you that information.


From: WT-Fakawi
Will all due respect? Just tell me who you bought it from and I will consider your status.


From: ~~Amur~~

sry, i didnt know it was that big of a deal and all that. I just bought it not knowing it was illegal. it was N3ss3s. Now if you would so kindly help me get SMART working.



From: WT-Fakawi
From: ~~Amur~~
I would prefer to get my help from you instead of needing to exploit/post SMART to/on other forums to get the help i need.

Who are you?


From: WT-Fakawi
From: ~~Amur~~
Amur…. idk what you mean

get on your msn

No I mean, why are you incriminating n33s3s? Why do you hate him so much?



From: WT-Fakawi
From: ~~Amur~~
im just amur. and i only hate him because he sold me SMART when it was free (just had to work for it) and because he sold it to me without it working properly….

I will take this up with n3ss3s. Of course you knew the S.M.A.R.T. is private and not to be spread around. Therefore I cannot help you. Try becoming a member here. Learn how to script. There are plenty tutorials for that. Ty for your information.




From: WT-Fakawi
From: ~~Amur~~
There's gonna be a problem with that….

I gave you this information looking for something in return. If you don't tell me how to fix this, your program you are trying to keep secret will be given to many ppl who are not SRL members+ and ppl who are not even a part of SRL at all.

I tried to be mature about this problem and tried not to cause conflict, but this is your last chance to help me fix this error before I decide to stop handling this maturely.

Error: Line 3: [Error] (5:1): Unknown identifier 'SmartMoveMouse' in script C:\Program Files\SCAR 3.13\includes\SMART.scar


? You are implying to spread it? You are giving me a "last chance"? You must be out of your mind. How dare you give me ultimatums. You have no idea who you are talking to. I will not speak with you again.

Goodbye.



EDIT: Please stay on friendly terms with other forums. A mess is easily created and hard to resolve.

n3ss3s

2008-01-06 07:26:34

Swift is a better Dr.Sloane than me, but I'll try to do good as him -

Amur screwd up, all of you know that you will automatically get in trouble, small or big, if you would leak something that is definetly not to be leaked, so, lets see -
will the guy get in trouble if i tell you?


He would'nt say that if he wasn't the victim in some way, even if he was friends with the leaker, he wouldn't like to get his friend mad at him, perhaps his 'friend' is his only one, maybe he felt like he had friends when he was able to do something forbidden, but same time help someone and even get paid.

You know, I've seen that appear in real life - this car crashed to a tree about 20 meters from my door, there were drugs etc and the tree had cut in the top of it, not where the car hit, so it was a big smash, anyway, there were some older people looting stuff from the car, or just mainly kicking it etc, this friend of mine tried to desperately look cool in the eyes of the bigger boys, he said that there were drugs in the car, and one of them shouted to him "why didn't you get them?!", and my friend immediately gave them a Colt, not the gun, the thing people light cig with.


So, I think I have proven that the theory of his that I was the seller is wrong, because he wanted to keep the seller as a secret, but still told it, which is over 50% chance he is lying, I'd like to say 99.99, but it would sound unprofessional.

Now, as Markus suggested, I go view my last posts in the 48 last hours and see if I've insulted etc someone a bit more than needed.

EDIT: I realized that I haven't even talked to SRL Members much in a way that would make them leak and frame me, and I've flamed only noobs posting in the wrong sections recently =/

Jackrawl

2008-01-06 07:54:02

From: n3ss3s
Swift is a better Dr.Sloane than me, but I'll try to do good as him -

Amur screwd up, all of you know that you will automatically get in trouble, small or big, if you would leak something that is definetly not to be leaked, so, lets see -

He would'nt say that if he wasn't the victim in some way, even if he was friends with the leaker, he wouldn't like to get his friend mad at him, perhaps his 'friend' is his only one, maybe he felt like he had friends when he was able to do something forbidden, but same time help someone and even get paid.

You know, I've seen that appear in real life - this car crashed to a tree about 20 meters from my door, there were drugs etc and the tree had cut in the top of it, not where the car hit, so it was a big smash, anyway, there were some older people looting stuff from the car, or just mainly kicking it etc, this friend of mine tried to desperately look cool in the eyes of the bigger boys, he said that there were drugs in the car, and one of them shouted to him "why didn't you get them?!", and my friend immediately gave them a Colt, not the gun, the thing people light cig with.


So, I think I have proven that the theory of his that I was the seller is wrong, because he wanted to keep the seller as a secret, but still told it, which is over 50% chance he is lying, I'd like to say 99.99, but it would sound unprofessional.

Now, as Markus suggested, I go view my last posts in the 48 last hours and see if I've insulted etc someone a bit more than needed.

EDIT: I realized that I haven't even talked to SRL Members much in a way that would make them leak and frame me, and I've flamed only noobs posting in the wrong sections recently =/


You actually think that? That looked like the rotten cheese I get from whiney rats. Rats care about themselves, not others. All I know is that there is some pretty sweet drama here.

oliver1205

2008-01-06 07:57:44

i doubt any of them will get it working. was the plugin + the include thingy leaked too?

n3ss3s

2008-01-06 08:01:11

Now I'm confused, do you mean my statement was rotten cheese? I understand if you think so.

Rats care about themselves, not others. All I know is that there is some pretty sweet drama here.


Hehe, I've thinked it twice, this is exactly where it comes in picture - he is a scared rat.

You are right, BUT, I think it seems like he feels that he can get hurt there, I don't mean physically, but I hope someone understands what I mean.

Actually, I'm starting to believe in the theory of mine more and more - what if they were IRL friends with the seller?

The seller could start make the buyers life hard, in this part, I think that if they only knew eachother through internet, the buyer could just shout the seller's name for the whole world and dissapear, happy with his smart.

EDIT: @Oliver: I doubt they know that ActivateClient crashes SMART, so does other clients, so, even if they had the include, it doesn't mean

a) They know to include smart first
b) How to open smart and do the DC thing :)

Jackrawl

2008-01-06 08:18:04

From: n3ss3s
Now I'm confused, do you mean my statement was rotten cheese? I understand if you think so.



Hehe, I've thinked it twice, this is exactly where it comes in picture - he is a scared rat.

You are right, BUT, I think it seems like he feels that he can get hurt there, I don't mean physically, but I hope someone understands what I mean.

Actually, I'm starting to believe in the theory of mine more and more - what if they were IRL friends with the seller?

The seller could start make the buyers life hard, in this part, I think that if they only knew eachother through internet, the buyer could just shout the seller's name for the whole world and dissapear, happy with his smart.

EDIT: @Oliver: I doubt they know that ActivateClient crashes SMART, so does other clients, so, even if they had the include, it doesn't mean

a) They know to include smart first
b) How to open smart and do the DC thing :)


If that were the case, I would expect him to press Fakawi about the "seller." Either way, I think Jagex ended the drama here for us. No more script selling for RS Gold, right?

No, I don't think your statement was rotten cheese. Anyway, this forum is a bit too lively. Theres so much to talk about, lol. I'm going to stay away for a few hours, and work with the Air Crafter.

n3ss3s

2008-01-06 08:59:12

I'd still like to know why did he pick me and who was the seller =/

Jackrawl

2008-01-06 09:09:29

From: n3ss3s
I'd still like to know why did he pick me and who was the seller =/


Because the moron couldn't think of anything better at the time.
P.S.
I stayed away for one whole hour.

n3ss3s

2008-01-06 09:13:49

Because the moron couldn't think of anything better at the time.
means I am the best? Lol I feel pop…

Lets hope Fawki's got news when he next time views this, he is logged on to SRL atleast.

Jackrawl

2008-01-06 09:37:46

From: n3ss3s
means I am the best? Lol I feel pop…

Lets hope Fawki's got news when he next time views this, he is logged on to SRL atleast.


No no, you misunderstand me. He probably didn't plan things out the way I see it. He probably thought with a slurred accent "Durr, who shold harv accezz to SMARTZzzz…"

He logged on earlier. And it looks like we'll just have to see how things go.

Negaal

2008-01-06 09:43:12

So how many peoples has it?
Problably he picked N3ss3s because hes only SRL member he knows, your posts all spreaded on all boards[4k posts :O]

Hah…he can't get it working, I had same problem at beginning…

Lol!

Umm, what status he had on hes original account?
Edit: Maybe again some bug like harry had…only opposite of it?
Edit2: Or maybe he guessed someones password?

Jackrawl

2008-01-06 11:19:04

Maybe his password is his srl stats pass?

Hugolord

2008-01-06 11:24:54

argh… not again.. can we just ban him ? and that's that..

n3ss3s

2008-01-06 11:35:56

argh… not again.. can we just ban him ? and that's that..


I still support finding the seller out, even he can't sell it anymore he should be banned, amur has already been banned.

richk1693

2008-01-06 11:46:11

From: n3ss3s
I still support finding the seller out, even he can't sell it anymore he should be banned, amur has already been banned.

It's the internet. Unless they were dumb enough to do it through PMs here for all we know fawk did it. It's going to be hard to prove that someone did it for sure.

n3ss3s

2008-01-06 11:48:58

By the way, can admins check pms?

Fawki could pseudobreak into his pm folder :)

EDIT: Amur's, and find out the seller.

richk1693

2008-01-06 11:55:31

An SRL member leaked it. I assume that we're not dumb enough to work out a sale via SRL PMing.

n3ss3s

2008-01-06 12:29:15

Well you are correct, it would be stupid, because actually I'm quite sure admins can view all pms…

Sp0rky

2008-01-06 12:35:13

I don't believe for one second it was n3ss3s, He's clearly trying to get him banned, he's said at least 5 times (which I've seen), the old "Will he get in trouble? :( , Ok, it was n3ss3s". After the second time, it's clearly obviously it wasn't n3ss3s, and he's being framed.

I love your gangsta approach Fawaki =D

You have no idea who you are talking to.


Love it. Reminds me of scarface. Can just picture you sitting in a massive leather chair smoking a cigar, with a desk infront of you with wads of cash on, saying "You don't know who your fucking with". Haha.

legendaryhero90

2008-01-06 12:43:14

ban him!

its good that these leechers cant get it working because i'd hate SMART to be abused.

lol to the guy trying to get it to work, who is he to think he can that he can intimidate us.

n3ss3s

2008-01-06 12:47:45


I love your gangsta approach Fawaki =D


Yeah - like "Hey wizz, are the concreteshoes ready?" xD

Sp0rky

2008-01-06 13:11:00

From: n3ss3s
Yeah - like "Hey wizz, are the concreteshoes ready?" xD


Rofl! "Amur is gna be sleepin with de fishies".

Anyway, I think we're getting a little off topic. My fault though.

JAD

2008-01-06 15:07:43

I was about to post this on the AMUR on the run to leak thread… But Wizzy closed it before I hit submit reply :p


From: GoF
Meh. Anyone thought that the leaker may have leaked SMART just because he knows that so many people post stuff like "omgz he cuudnt do it i want to sex him omg!!11!!" and all they'd have to do is make up a little lie and nobody would even suspect them?

BUT I doubt it's n3ss, rather JAD than n3ss..


Gof thinks it's me because he doesn't like me.

Whenever I logged in over there before, I always made sure to log off… He knows a lot about computers and stuff, but I don't know if he hacked it or how he got it…


If you go to the site, he registered and became a mod, and then told me about the place, so I signed up a little while after to check it out…

What would I gain by accusing n3ss3s of something? Me and n3ss3s are cool, not like best friends, but we have nothing against each other (from what I know).

I can get on his computer and delete it next time I'm over there.

Anyways, this wasn't my doing, and I can't really convince you that it wasn't (I'll never convince Gof anyway because he doesn't like me…). All I can hope is that you see the pointlessness of me doing that, and what I'd have at stake for doing that. I love srl forums and would never leak anything.

WT-Fakawi

2008-01-06 15:11:15

Amur and JAD are not the same person and n3ss3s did not leak to Amur. But JAD, if you know this guy irl, please talk some sense into him, will you? I dont want to escalate the situation (though its under control now afaik)

JAD

2008-01-06 15:21:08

From: WT-Fakawi
Amur and JAD are not the same person and n3ss3s did not leak to Amur. But JAD, if you know this guy irl, please talk some sense into him, will you? I dont want to escalate the situation (though its under control now afaik)


Yes sir, already working on it/worked on it.

I got him to take it off his site, and I'm trying to get it off his computer (whether he wants it off or not :p)

Next time I'm at his house I'll delete the file.

But don't worry, he doesn't even know how to use it or know anything about it… And he's not going to put it on sythe/fagex…etc. because he just thought it would attract more people to runecity, which wouldn't happen anyways lol.

And I did talk some sense into him and he was going to take it off and just leave it off, but then he saw the spam, and now he has to get all macho and doesn't want to make it look like he lost the war I guess :p

He told me he took it off for a little while until you guys stopped spamming, but then it's going back up.

Don't worry though, it will be off his computer by then.

Thanks for believing me guys. I never have leaked and never will leak, and I would never accuse n3ss3s of something he didn't do, or anyone.

R0b0t1

2008-01-06 15:29:47

Hmm…. I guess WTF is the only person we can really call "sir" around here ;).


He won't make a big fuss over you deleting it, will he? I mean… I love to act out these kind of situations in my head… Find the loop-holes…

You think I'd make a good lawyer? :p

WT-Fakawi

2008-01-06 15:59:29

ow and please stop spamming runecity. This gets in the way of constructive dialog :)

Swift

2008-01-06 16:09:26

Haha n3ss3s at your comment about me :p.

Is "Amur" a registered user at this site?

Wizzup?

2008-01-06 16:23:15

From: JAD
Next time I'm at his house I'll delete the file.

Hey. You don't do that to your friends.
Him having smart is not a big deal.
He should just not spread the word that he has one. :)

richk1693

2008-01-06 16:36:09

Fawk would it be to dangerous to cut him the deal that if he wont spread it we will teach him to use it?

Mildly worried now.

he said something like

And i've learned how to use it now too. It's java based. I've been looking at it all wrong


JAD does he know anything about programing? Or did he like find the word java in it and is a complete bluff?



Also fun:

P1nky

2008-01-06 16:37:21

no he knows how to run it… i saw tuts of it lmao he copied it from here and pasted….

he said that too

R0b0t1

2008-01-06 16:42:39

Wait, all of the tuts are members only?

Hmm…

And why should you be worried? If we teach him how to use it, he will spread it around and teach other people just for spite.

richk1693

2008-01-06 16:45:11

If he posted tutorials he should be smart enough to work it then by reading. I guess we're just gunna have to hope JAD does something then.

JAD

2008-01-06 17:40:23

From: Wizzup?
Hey. You don't do that to your friends.
Him having smart is not a big deal.
He should just not spread the word that he has one. :)


Well… He really doesn't like fakawi now or srl forums; everybody spamming just made him more mad. He might take this to the next level by giving it to a lot of people (sythe…etc.). You sure you don't want me to delete it? I could do it…

And no, he doesn't know much about programming. Scar minimizing autoing resource thing by Benland. He knows Benland is good at Java or something I'm guessing :)

And yeah, he told me he got it working a little while ago.

richk1693

2008-01-06 17:49:11

If he's your friend then I'm assuming hes not a terrible person. Talk some sense into him. Let him know that he's welcome to use it, just don't leak it.

BobboHobbo

2008-01-06 18:07:20

Sugestions:
When you go over his house ask for a drink and when he goes out of the room find the SMART files delete them and press the power button then say there was a black out :) If his stupid enough to believe that then so be it.

Jackrawl

2008-01-06 18:12:11

…He'd have to be pretty dumb.

R0b0t1

2008-01-06 20:54:07

… Like most people.

bullzeye95

2008-01-06 21:18:37

From: JAD
Well… He really doesn't like fakawi now or srl forums; everybody spamming just made him more mad. He might take this to the next level by giving it to a lot of people (sythe…etc.). You sure you don't want me to delete it? I could do it…

And no, he doesn't know much about programming. Scar minimizing autoing resource thing by Benland. He knows Benland is good at Java or something I'm guessing :)

And yeah, he told me he got it working a little while ago.


I don't think deleting it would do much good. He could just download it again from one of the sites he uploaded it to. What would you deleting it accomplish? Him being mad at you. :(

Special Ed

2008-01-06 22:08:36

You have to build a good trust with him, get him to show you all the sites he uploaded it to, and just try not to be hostile at all towards the matter. Then when you've figure out all the sites, gotten his account names + passwords just delete the file from him comp and all the sites, then go back the next day asking him "WTF I tried to download SMART but all the links are gone, do you have it?"

He'll respond by looking through his computer, getting very frustrated that he can't find it and give up. Thats what most people do, and as my signature says… people are stupid.

Town

2008-01-06 22:52:11

Go over to his house and when he goes to the bathroom rip the computer out of the wall and run. Don't stop, just keep going. If he calls the police just tell them your story of how a guy from Amsterdam named WT-Fakawi runs a website and a guy named BenLand100 made a program that lets you macro on Runescape and minimize it at the same time. Once you get through that I'm sure they will understand.

On a serious note, whoever spammed his forums has officially made my "<note to self: name list of complete idiots>" list.

richk1693

2008-01-06 23:16:27

From: Town
Go over to his house and when he goes to the bathroom rip the computer out of the wall and run. Don't stop, just keep going. If he calls the police just tell them your story of how a guy from Amsterdam named WT-Fakawi runs a website and a guy named BenLand100 made a program that lets you macro on Runescape and minimize it at the same time. Once you get through that I'm sure they will understand.

On a serious note, whoever spammed his forums has officially made my "<note to self: name list of complete idiots>" list.




lol wonderful idea. (i hate you im laughing so loud im gunna wake up my family)

Sp0rky

2008-01-06 23:27:07

From: Town

On a serious note, whoever spammed his forums has officially made my "<note to self: name list of complete idiots>" list.


It was an immediate reaction, to an immediate problem. The result of the spam got S.M.A.R.T. taken down. I spammed it for 10 minutes or so, and as soon as smart was taken down, and an apology received, I stopped.

I believe others may have gone there afterwards and spammed it. Which wasn't a clever idea.

If he advertises on srl, his little site, he should be pleased he's getting more traffic.

Sometimes, On a very rare occasion, Drastic (maybe slightly immature?) measures are called for.

mickaliscious

2008-01-07 04:23:27

Town, Rep++ for that hypothetical situation. I can just see it happening in my head and it is hilarious.

GoF

2008-01-07 07:19:25

From: JAD
Next time I'm at his house I'll delete the file.


Mmmm… What if he has backups of it? That could just piss him off even more :p

King of Knives

2008-01-07 07:24:52

If I were JAD I would do the following:
(A minute where he's gone, toilet - whatever)
Copy some random places from "Embedded SMART.dll"
Delete the real "Embedded SMART.dll"
Make a new file. Put the random stuff you just copied, into it. Scroll all the way to the right and place the name of all the procedures "Embedded SMART.dll" contains.

Would take you some time, but atleast he'd be fooled… SMART would never work.

-Knives

n3ss3s

2008-01-07 08:31:52

(from what I know).


Yes :)

@r0b0t: like, did I become some kind of legend in ronny's app?

Anyhow, its on the computer of Amur's, as been said if you'd delete he would be even mad at you.

My current point of view is that we all just wait until Wizzy's idea comes in effect - if comes.

richk1693

2008-01-07 15:20:20

Does anyone know what wizzys idea is? All I read was him saying "The solution is simple." and I don't like the sound of that.

Jackrawl

2008-01-07 15:24:55

From: Special Ed
You have to build a good trust with him, get him to show you all the sites he uploaded it to, and just try not to be hostile at all towards the matter. Then when you've figure out all the sites, gotten his account names + passwords just delete the file from him comp and all the sites, then go back the next day asking him "WTF I tried to download SMART but all the links are gone, do you have it?"

He'll respond by looking through his computer, getting very frustrated that he can't find it and give up. Thats what most people do, and as my signature says… people are stupid.


LOL, you are one sneaky little devil. I'll have to keep two eyes on you if you come after me.

Anyway, Wizzup has a point. If JAD can convince him not to distribute SMART, then no harm done, right? What's a knife worth if it's never used?

JAD

2008-01-07 18:43:20

He's not smart enough to make a backup file or anything like that :p I'm 100% convinced he has 1 copy of it in the plugins folder/includes folder (seperate files).

But I don't think I'm going to have to do anything. I told him that I'm going to get banned here if he posts it again, and we're friends, so he doesn't want to do that to me.

It shouldn't be posted anywhere right now, and will not be posted ever (shouldn't).

WT-Fakawi

2008-01-07 19:09:08

ok. Closed.