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Hy123561025 ftw?


JAD

2007-12-20 18:14:33

I'm guessing a thread like this has probably been made… But I'd like to know what's up with his script?

There's no way a script that was made a few months ago could have passed a script that was made a year or so ago like Wizzup?'s which was probably using a lot more complex/reliable techniques and was just an all-around better script then Hy's.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see any way Hy could make a more reliable script that people would leach more than Wizzup?'s ess miner, and it's still going up at such a rapid rate even though there is no more autoing with armies (at least there's not much of a point to autoing with armies..).

Anyways, somebody please fill me in if possible.

Thanks,

~JAD

Town

2007-12-20 18:31:23

There are several entrances to the cave and 8-9 minutes added to his stats every minute. . . Every minute. . .

The Claw

2007-12-20 19:57:10

http://www.srl-forums.com/forum/hy65131877415132315102-t22251.html

ZephyrsFury

2007-12-20 20:28:42

In about 6 hours yesterday it increased 20000 mins. Thats about 14 days of autoing in just 6 hours????

JAD

2007-12-20 20:38:52

I mean, this has been going on for a while now… We all know that those minutes and everything couldn't possibly be legit; and even though we have no evidence, we can safely assume that they aren't legit. So is anything going to happen about it? And isn't it a members only script too?? That would be even more puzzling. And it's not like he's running 8 scar's a day with smart either because his SRL stats aren't high enough.. I'm going to check out Claw's thread though and see if I get answers to any of these questions =)

Ejjman

2007-12-20 20:39:21

Its clearly he's cheating. I thought that was already established? Idk, ask Pyro.

EDIT: He's beating Tara + Wizzup Essy Miner. U cannot seriously believe that his script hasn't cheated lol.

The Claw

2007-12-20 21:07:21

Well I decided to do another test.

At 12:04 PM he had 1900672 mins
At 13:04 PM he had 1901356 mins

Which is a gain of 684 minutes, in exactly 1 hour real time. Which means that atm, 11.4 people are running the script. Which is pretty much exactly the same number of people who were supposedly running it all those months ago when nielsie did his tests…

JAD

2007-12-20 21:12:42

From: The Claw
Well I decided to do another test.

At 12:04 PM he had 1900672 mins
At 13:04 PM he had 1901356 mins

Which is a gain of 684 minutes, in exactly 1 hour real time. Which means that atm, 11.4 people are running the script. Which is pretty much exactly the same number of people who were supposedly running it all those months ago when nielsie did his tests…


10 bucks says he or somebody else has a scar script running adding to the stats every minute or so gradually… IDK what he's gaining or the person doing this is gaining though.. Very strange.

I mean, keeping in mind there is smart, but how many people can afford to have over 1 member account/how many people think it's worth it to have your autoers member.

I think this situation should be checked further. Is there a way to check IP's of where all these minutes are coming from?

Pyro

2007-12-21 18:06:59

Yeah i really really doubt it. Not that long ago. Hy's script was zooming up. And was laughing to wizzy that he still had to double his stats to catch up. And rofl. He made it :P There is no way that its legit.

Smartzkid

2007-12-21 18:29:46

Amazing that a twelve year old can hold a lie like that for so long so well.

Sumilion

2007-12-21 18:32:50

From: Smartzkid
Amazing that a twelve year old can hold a lie like that for so long so well.


Either that or he doesn't even know it himself. Either way I doubt it's all legit.

JAD

2007-12-21 19:24:08

If we are 100% sure it's not legit, because I am, then why don't we do something about it? I mean, I know it's not a huge deal, but still. Because there are many things we could do, including taking it off the stats ;)

Anyways, he's not coming back until July according to some thread.

The Claw

2007-12-21 19:52:48

Lets just delete it from the stats. Multiple tests have been done and every time 11.4 people were supposedly using it, yesterday and months ago…even immediately after RS was updated, so we know for sure its not legit

Smartzkid

2007-12-21 19:54:48

Have someone mod+ arrange an explanation first, else it'll be regretted later.

Town

2007-12-21 19:59:25

From: The Claw
every time 11.4 people were supposedly using i


There are people that actually use the script so it can't be a constant number.

It may be legit. He has it built in so the script won't run if you don't have an SRL stats account.

The Claw

2007-12-21 20:03:17

just went back and checked that thread, my memory was wrong lol. it fluctuated between 6 and 17 people.

JAD

2007-12-21 20:07:20

Hmm.. Well, lets look at the facts.

  • It's not better than Wizzup?'s script
  • It's not as reliable as Wizzup?'s script
  • It's not coded as well as Wizzup?'s script
  • It's a members script for mains in fight caves… Wizzup?'s is an ess miner for autoers.
  • It hasn't been around for nearly as long as Wizzup?'s script.
  • It's not possible! :p
  • It's going up at the fastest rate by more than 3 times of any script in the history of srl! by an srl member too! (not saying he should just get discarded because he's an srl member… But you know what I mean)

Town

2007-12-21 20:54:41

Add in that you don't get randoms in the fight caves and you only need one character to run overnight (whether or not it's smart to do it).

JAD

2007-12-21 22:18:16

From: Town
Add in that you don't get randoms in the fight caves and you only need one character to run overnight (whether or not it's smart to do it).


Yeah…

But are you going to deny that there's something fishy here? Or are you over 75% convinced that it's all legit. I'm not suggesting that it's even Hy, but of course it's a possibility.

Ejjman

2007-12-21 22:41:28

From: c0de
10 SMARTs = 10 SCARs = 10 reports in one minute = possible.


lol pwnz.

Hobbit

2007-12-22 03:24:24

From: c0de
10 SMARTs = 10 SCARs = 10 reports in one minute = possible.


He's right you know…

And instead of speculating, why doesn't someone look at his script and see if it's altered in anyway.

If you can't come up with proof, stop posting the same thing over and over.

nielsie95

2007-12-22 05:05:23

From: JAD
Hmm.. Well, lets look at the facts.

  • It's not better than Wizzup?'s script
  • It's not as reliable as Wizzup?'s script
  • It's not coded as well as Wizzup?'s script
  • It's a members script for mains in fight caves… Wizzup?'s is an ess miner for autoers.
  • It hasn't been around for nearly as long as Wizzup?'s script.
  • It's not possible! :p
  • It's going up at the fastest rate by more than 3 times of any script in the history of srl! by an srl member too! (not saying he should just get discarded because he's an srl member… But you know what I mean)

  • It doesn't have to be a better script to be higher in the stats.
  • It runs 11 hours on one character, I have seen the progress reports.
  • It doesn't have to be coded like that, I think an Ess miner is way harder.
  • A lot of people at SRL have member mains. I noticed that with the Clan Wars event.
  • Remember Lefamaster in the stats? He also came out of nowhere.

Now don't get me wrong, I also think this is not legit, but not for these reasons.
10 SMARTS? Possible, but I don't think Hy has 10 member chars.

Also, when it's gaining stats, you have to have your ID filled in. If this was Hy all by himself, he would've been first in the (other) stats too. Even if he has created 10 Stat ID's, they would've been quite high?

I think the only way to prove it is to add/check IP-history.. =\

Wizzup?

2007-12-22 06:30:51

From: c0de
10 SMARTs = 10 SCARs = 10 reports in one minute = possible.


Whats the use of running 10 fight caves?

The Claw

2007-12-22 06:48:36

Very easy to make a blank script which would add time to the stats every hour, no need to actually run the real script

Wizzup?

2007-12-22 08:08:48

From: c0de
More XP over 10 chars in less amount of time.


So you'd want 10 pures for bounty hunter? lol

Hobbit

2007-12-22 11:04:39

Sell the accounts on sythe before 'unbalanced trade' update kicks in

Town

2007-12-22 11:26:00

Or just for the sake of getting their levels higher and higher. . . That's what you do in Runescape. . .

There are several people that run the script. Some of them run it overnight, some run it for days at a time, some run it a few hours a day. Some of them have Smart and some of them don't. All of them are using SRL stats, though, and it is very possible that his stats are real.

On Wizzup's script you don't need SRL stats to run it, AFAIK. Also, the script is stopped after several hours because of an unsolvable random and most people will have < 6 characters running on the script. With that said, they probably either have 1-2 characters per Smart running or they just have 6 on the same loop.

He could be cheating or someone else could be cheating for him, but there is no reason to take it off the stats when it is very possible he's not.

JAD

2007-12-22 12:44:48

From: nielsie95

Now don't get me wrong, I also think this is not legit, but not for these reasons.
10 SMARTS? Possible, but I don't think Hy has 10 member chars.


Having 10 member accounts would be expensive. And here's the thing, look at Hy's individual stats. He didn't run it for all of that time.

There's something we overlooked in the script's defense. Nobody is doing this by themselves… Or else there individual stats would sky rocket too, wouldn't they? Maybe it is legit than… Maybe it isn't. Because there's probably a way to send stats to the script while not sending stats to your individual stats. IDK. Of course all of this is possible, but IMO, I don't think it's legit.

But I don't think it's very possible to find prof… Unless there's a way to trace the IP's of where the minutes are coming from? Only other real prof is if the person doing it confessed, and that probably wouln't happen (that's still if somebody is doing it :p).

pwnaz0r

2007-12-22 20:20:40

He brings up a good point, if he is boosting it, how could he do it and his account have all those minutes? I know several people in the top 20 who use his script only 24/7 cause its so hard to fail. I have talked to them too, don't worry its legit. I know him really well on here and he wouldn't lie to me, I guarentee you that.

EDIT: He actually personally invited alot of people into a conversation with me who use it 24/7. It was literally like 17 people. Believe me, its possible. The base code for it was actually mine, he asked me to make him one, then he edited with SRL stats and a few things about Login and he published. Of course I told him he could but i am still mad i didn't get enough credit or whatever. Still I guarentee you he isnt boosting.

JAD

2007-12-23 01:27:09

From: pwnaz0r
He brings up a good point, if he is boosting it, how could he do it and his account have all those minutes? I know several people in the top 20 who use his script only 24/7 cause its so hard to fail. I have talked to them too, don't worry its legit. I know him really well on here and he wouldn't lie to me, I guarentee you that.

EDIT: He actually personally invited alot of people into a conversation with me who use it 24/7. It was literally like 17 people. Believe me, its possible. The base code for it was actually mine, he asked me to make him one, then he edited with SRL stats and a few things about Login and he published. Of course I told him he could but i am still mad i didn't get enough credit or whatever. Still I guarentee you he isnt boosting.


Hmm… How could you not get banned, running a script 24/7?

And I/we didn't specifically suggest he was the cause of it, but something is fishy here… IDK. Maybe it is legit.

Hobbit

2007-12-23 01:30:21

The 24/7 is just a minimum of 11.5 people would have to run it 24/7 to get that. But for all we know there could be 34 people running it 8.5 hours a day. Maybe even people using on multiple accounts.

Town

2007-12-23 11:50:01

I had 4 member accounts at one point, but my script actually made me money. I don't think we'll ever really know.

Town

2007-12-24 11:26:10

Go to line 94 and delete all of the blank space. Not everyone that uses his script is that bright.

pwnaz0r

2007-12-24 11:57:23

From: c0de
The thing about not boosting their minutes while script is going up, guys, you do know that SCRIPT Stats and USER Stats are separate, the script stats were hardcoded by developer there, while the user has to fill their infos there. The point? The script is always filled in, thus adding minutes if you run while user may forgot, or don't even have account details filled in.


If you mean to say that if an SRL ID and SRL Password and not plugged in and that it will still add to the stats, then I have to tell you that you are wrong.


procedure SendSRLReport;
var
I : Integer;
S : String;
M, Worked : Integer;
begin
if ( SRLID <> '' ) and ( SRLPassword <> '' ) then
begin

Town

2007-12-25 10:15:49

From: c0de
I'm saying just the opposite of what you thought I was saying, they were asking how come if everyone is running his script their stats are not boosted… I gave an answer identical to yours ;-)


The point I am trying to make is that everyone that uses his script must use script stats. That is why his script is going up so much faster than other scripts. Refer to my last post. . .

Town

2007-12-25 12:32:01

Yes, they must have personal stats. /goes and gets a picture

This is out on the edge of line 94 so it cannot be changed by the majority of people who use his script:

SRLid := '2368';  SrlPassword := 'password';  WriteLn('@@@ Hey! Don''t leech! Get an SRL Stats ID at : ');  WriteLn('@@@ [url]http://www.Stats.SRL-Forums.com[/url] !!! ');  WriteLn('@@@ And type it into lines 66 - 67 please !');  WriteLn('@@@ Until you do that, the script will not run. ');  WriteLn('@@@ Byee! ');  TerminateScript;

nielsie95

2007-12-25 14:16:38

I believe that account hasn't got that many minutes. Unless he resets the stats of that account every day/week.

Town

2007-12-25 15:40:49

The important part is TerminateScript; at the end of it so everyone that runs the script without filling in their script stats name/password must fill it in and restart. I'm not sure why he sets that there.

Dark_Sniper

2007-12-28 04:38:33

From: The_Claw
Worked for 9 1/2 months, with 249 logins. If i did my maths correctly thats an average of 70 hours per login. While its true that with a script like that you never log out, would it even last for 70 hours with the one character? Would anyone be stupid enough to risk it? Most of the proggies posted on the thread are 10, or MAYBE 15 hours at a time. Not one 70 at all, and going by the stats, every login has been just over 70 hours (on average).




check out how many logins he has now… as of right now he has :
Logged In : 61703

over a 4 yr period of running a script…..

sounds about right but not right when compared to his 249 logins in 9 1/2 months….



so each user went from about 70 hrs per login to approximately 30 mins per login… :p

JAD

2007-12-28 16:56:51

From: Dark_Sniper
check out how many logins he has now… as of right now he has :
Logged In : 61703

over a 4 yr period of running a script…..

sounds about right but not right when compared to his 249 logins in 9 1/2 months….



so each user went from about 70 hrs per login to approximately 30 mins per login… :p


Something's wrong here…. Whether it's possible or not, of course it's possible. But something is up I think other then a lot of people using his script.

Town

2007-12-28 17:40:55

There is a login/logout after a certain period of time system set up.

nielsie95

2007-12-28 17:48:46

He didn't use SRL LoginPlayer at the beginning I believe. That might be the reason it's not adding Logins.

I don't know if he uses it now though.