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trade Your Autoed Goods to Your Main After Jan 1st!


red eyes 20

2007-12-13 14:14:17

EDIT: no effencient ways have been found, if you've thought of a possible, not ovious way of transfer. please post, i will test, or know for a fact if it will not work, if i think it will i will test, if it works i will post it on this post. so get thinking SRL!

n3ss3s

2007-12-13 14:20:50

To be honest you should've asked a moderator to move the topic instead of posting duplicate one.

Anyways, I find this idea very confusing, as all of the suggested ideas.

Hugolord

2007-12-13 14:23:11

won't work.. impractical

nhstarter10

2007-12-13 14:38:20

I kind of get what your saying, and in theory this should work. The only downside to this is getting people to actually do this, just to start the process up and also the fact that this could only work for a certain period of time, until it is discovered by others.

red eyes 20

2007-12-13 14:40:08

well ok i know it sounds insane, because it is.. but it's that only way and if every one would colaborate i think i would work, but thanks for the feed back no the less.
and yes n3s i know, but i couldn't wait =p

Birfday_Cake

2007-12-13 14:50:09

It would work… It's just a little hard to get everyone to do it. If someone made a script for it, I'd run it.

red eyes 20

2007-12-13 15:00:35

yeah getting the thousands of said items is easy part it's selling and buying it
to raise the price….

goider

2007-12-13 16:50:18

you could just toss the coinage between two parties (accounts) so one buys 1000 onions, then reposts them at max price, the other buys em… and you keep going. (like dual boxing, and bottomfeeding "WoW term")

many people (me included) used to play a dirty scam called bottom slapping, there was an addon that would buy any item in the auction house (kinda like the GE) that was rediculously underpriced and rehost it. so for a few weeks you would post a rare but useless item on the AH for 10 000G (thats alot of money) post about 10 over and over and over… after a few weeks the bottom feeders would pick up on the sudden increase in price and raise the average price of it to close to 10k because it would have rarely seen it at any price. after that period (usually 3-4 weeks, you would go on another character and list one or two of the same item you just listed at 10 000G for anything from 150-7000G and the bottom feeders would buy it and throw it back into the AH at 10 000G because they thought it would make profit….

supersain

2007-12-13 17:09:40

how abt some one make a scar script which will pick potatoes or cabages for us, and i am willing to do this process between two of my accounts

Nose Smasher

2007-12-13 17:19:46

bannage much?

abusing the GE is prolly easy to spot by Jagex…

why not get mules to 40 def, use macro-ed money to buy god armour, then BH? (obviously no pl8 unless you did drag slayer)

thats only thing i can think of… cuz 40 def is easy (assuming your cb 20+ already) and god armour is only cb item thats worth more than 50k (in f2p)

only prob wit this is if your main is 100+ cb ;-) then you just need a few accounts…

aran armath

2007-12-13 17:44:50

This could work. I think there would be a way to transfer items using multi logging when doing this. But we wouldnt need to do it to that extreme of raising prices. What we would need to do is get an item that people never use and would never put in the GE. But would be very easy to get a hold of like 10k+ of it. Yes potatoes and cabbage stuff like that would be easy to do. Cabbages would be easier to get a hold of i think because i seen people selling lots of cabbages, another good one for members would be potatoe seeds. Will edit in sec going to look at GE prices.

Aser

2007-12-13 18:07:26

On paper it looks nice but in reallity it will prolly only take one person to realize the price differance and it's all blown. Then everyone would be picking cabbages and selling them taking the money out of the loop and buying other stuff. What could be done as an alternate would be to stop selling goods and have the prices sky-rocket and then sell them all at once for jacked up proces and have the price come tummblin down again. That would show Jagex how much other players need us to "survive" and they might stop beeing overly stupid.

tarajunky

2007-12-13 18:20:14

One potential problem is how quickly the prices on GE will update.

They might only adjust the prices once per week, and then only by 5%. I don't know how that works, but something like that would make this take a -very- long time.

legendaryhero90

2007-12-13 18:31:07

nope.

i think Jagex saw this coming a put a cap on some items.

aran armath

2007-12-13 18:32:01

I have a good idea. You must agree to what the main post says if not do not proceed.

Guyz they made a flaw in it. The 5% + and -. There is no need for us to change the value of any item. All we got to do is find a nice item, and multi log and send about 30 mins transfering gold from your autoer to your main. Buy the item low and then resell it high. I realized this as i put up about 5k oak logs when the GE came out and they have yet to sell. why? because they are like 30 something each. So lets say on your main you decide to use normal logs. The low is 32 and the high is 36. So you buy 10k for 32ea. You put them back up for sale for 36ea. On your autoer you place an order for 10k normal logs for 36ea. Then quickly check and see if it went to your main. If not try again. Once it does, confirm them for 36ea. Wow you just made 40k from your autoer. The key thing is the 5& change rate. But remember to repeat the process you need to get the items back to your main some how. You could drop trade them but only in 3k increments.

ElPolloFeo92

2007-12-13 18:45:23

Aran, that's a good idea. But instead of drop trading the items back to your main, you could sell them for the low price on your autoer to make some of the money back. Then your autoer would get more money and you would still make 40k on your main.

tarajunky

2007-12-13 18:55:11

The cheaper the better!

Feathers are 5 each. If you sell to macro account for 6 each you make 20% profit instead of 5%. If you buy at 4 ea and sell 6 ea you make 50% profit in the transfer.

And there should be TONS sitting on the exchange waiting. If not there's always the Chickenkiller to re-stock.
:)

aran armath

2007-12-13 18:59:35

Yes, but drop trading them back might work a little faster because the other person has to click the collect button in order for you to receive the goods. It wouldnt matter what item you choose as long as it has a low GE value but is high enough to use the full 5% + and -. Just remember the lower the price of the item the more you can drop trade at a time, but the less of the 5% + and - you will get. Oak logs at the moment are about 12-16 i think. those would be good you can drop trade about 180ish each time.

EDIT:
I THINK WE FOUND A WAY AROUND THEM:D

Like terajunky said. Feathers is an option I am considering.

red eyes 20

2007-12-13 19:06:09

i like arans solution, it's good to!
and OMGSH… i see that WT fakawi is reading my thread…

and of corse tarajunky like feathers, that's we he's famious for!! =p

tysl2417

2007-12-13 19:06:44

Guys dont sweat it this happened 2 years ago and the macroers in 2 months were back on their feet again and were massively macroing

red eyes 20

2007-12-13 19:16:26

From: tysl2417
Guys dont sweat it this happened 2 years ago and the macroers in 2 months were back on their feet again and were massively macroing


what, the mas ayrayn(sp?) ban? heh that's nothing compared to this problem if a script or program goes bad, that can easily, well not to me :redface: , be fixed and made better, but not being able to trade, well pretty much. is quite the bigger problem, and are still reluctent to find out still.

kingarabian

2007-12-13 22:30:53

I was thinking thisIf we can only drop trade stuff only 3k worth of we say hmmm lets drop trade coal. Say 50 coal is woth 3k. We note that and drop it. Then we get another 50 coal, note it and drop it. Maybe that would work? Not sure tho.

aran armath

2007-12-13 22:38:37

^^ would take forever to trade over 1m worth of coal. We are used to drop trading over 1m worth of coal. But if we could in corporate this into a script it may work. Drop trading and logging in and picking it up. That may work out. Please give some hint when using white text add a smillie or something at the end. :sasmokin:

red eyes 20

2007-12-14 19:55:33

YEAH rs has got us beenting to getting banned by autoing on our mains….

yeah but making a drop trading scripts would be DOUBLING the time it takes to make money…
=D

R0b0t1

2007-12-14 20:11:13

You people are missing the obvious, just stop selling for a while. The problem is getting people to participate.

Tim0suprem0

2007-12-15 02:46:11

From: kingarabian
I was thinking thisIf we can only drop trade stuff only 3k worth of we say hmmm lets drop trade coal. Say 50 coal is woth 3k. We note that and drop it. Then we get another 50 coal, note it and drop it. Maybe that would work? Not sure tho.


yea the only problem is with that is you can only drop trade 3k worth of stuff every 15 mins

red eyes 20

2007-12-15 03:16:20

yeah, making a autoers to trade 3k every 15 mins thats just 12k an hour……
the fight caver makes at least 15k a hour and that gets your main cb up too…

so we gotta find a loop hole other then that.
cause that that rate, play legitly o.o

btryan

2007-12-15 06:39:40

I don't think this strategy would work. People you should have noticed that there are lower limit of price range for each item so a market price would never drop below that point. Similarly I believe there is a higher price limit for each item which the market price does not go beyond it. Maybe someone can prove me wrong.

Rs-Gp-4U

2007-12-15 06:48:50

It's never happened before…..
BTW hope this thing works *ThumbsUp*

Quazark

2007-12-15 07:25:52

somehow I don't think this would work, and if it did, it would take so many people cooperating on such a large scale that it would near impossible to coordinate it effectively.

Rs-Gp-4U

2007-12-15 07:47:53

Cabbage thing wont work you can only buy/sell for 1gp…
I think it may be over for our mains being rich arsez.
Unless we auto on mains???

Quazark

2007-12-15 08:02:11

I auto on my main anyway, seeing as how I've had to make a new one, because I can't remember details for my old one. I figured I got nothing to lose, so I may as well.

tarajunky

2007-12-15 11:14:00

The market is flooded with feathers, so you can't currently re-sell them for 5 gp.

However, this could be done with thread. You can buy any number of them at crafting store for 4 gp each. Then sell to your main through GE for 3 gp each. Then sell back to autoing accounts for 4 gp each. 33% wealth transfer per transaction.

Once you're done moving all your money, you can sell back to the crafting shop for 2 gp each, so it does cost some money to do it all, but it should be possible.

mnagi85

2007-12-15 12:21:59

This would take WAYY too much time, effort, and time. We autoers aren't really effected by the new update; at least some of us weren't- cause some of us autoed for our own personal benefit of levels and pking(now bounty hunting, and since pking is gone you will be forced to relief your pressure of pking by killing the KQ and dagganoth kings and such).

Besides, you wouldn't be making any money. Your selling and buying against yourself in order to increase the market value of a certain item.

Unrealistic, inefficient.

xiao5136

2007-12-15 12:51:02

i dont get it..

mrmat29

2007-12-15 15:06:54

This idea is really 'pushing' it. I mean it would work in theory but there are current methods that are much more time efficient and relatively safe.

tarajunky

2007-12-15 16:02:09

From: mnagi85
This would take WAYY too much time, effort, and time. We autoers aren't really effected by the new update; at least some of us weren't- cause some of us autoed for our own personal benefit of levels and pking(now bounty hunting, and since pking is gone you will be forced to relief your pressure of pking by killing the KQ and dagganoth kings and such).

Besides, you wouldn't be making any money. Your selling and buying against yourself in order to increase the market value of a certain item.

Unrealistic, inefficient.


Your autoer takes 4 million gp to Crafting house. Buys 1 million thread, which all stacks in one spot in your inventory, so no banking necessary. Autoer then walks to Grand Exchange. Sells all for 3 each.

Your main buys all for 3 million. Re-lists at 4 million. Your autoer buys at 4 million, re-sells all for 3 million.

Every time you do this transaction, you trade 1 million gp from your autoer to your main. If your autoer started with 20 million, you do it 16 times and end up with 0 gp and 1 million thread. Your main ends up with 0 thread and 16 million gp.

Nobody else is going to buy thread from grand exchange. Especially not a million of them, so your scheme won't be interrupted by others. And even if someone steps in and buys 1k thread, so what? You bought for 4 ea, they paid you 3 ea, you're out 1k.

At the end, you can walk your autoer back to the crafting shop and sell it all back for 2 gp each. End result, you give RS 2 million gp, leave 2 million on autoer, and transfer 16 million to main through grand exchange.

Total time to do this would be about 15-30 minutes, including all the buying, trading, and walking.

And of course, if you have an entire army each with millions of gp to transfer, you can have them use the same lump of thread everyone else is using, just by having them buy at 4 gp next transaction and then start selling back and forth.

ZaSz

2007-12-15 17:16:02

this wouldn't work… What if everyone starts doing this wouldn't everyone else start to get your money?

tarajunky

2007-12-15 17:44:44

You don't HAVE to do thread. You could do any item. There are thousands to choose from on the GE.

The easiest ones to do, obviously, are stackable items you can buy from shops, and that have very low values, and are not highly consumable so demand is low. Lots of things are only worth 1 max, so they don't work. But I'm sure there are lots and lots of other things that could be used as well.

Go find a different unique item like this for yourself and there should be no problem whatsoever.

op_ivy_freak

2007-12-15 18:17:14

lol that is kinda confusing. But hopefully we will get something to work.

King of the Nites

2007-12-15 19:44:22

I really just dont understand any of these things anyone is saying… Are u trying to say to raise the market price of an item, such as cabbage or onion. Then u could have a ton of those and trade to autoer when he gives u the goods?

aran armath

2007-12-15 20:36:37

From: tarajunky
Your autoer takes 4 million gp to Crafting house. Buys 1 million thread, which all stacks in one spot in your inventory, so no banking necessary. Autoer then walks to Grand Exchange. Sells all for 3 each.

Your main buys all for 3 million. Re-lists at 4 million. Your autoer buys at 4 million, re-sells all for 3 million.

Every time you do this transaction, you trade 1 million gp from your autoer to your main. If your autoer started with 20 million, you do it 16 times and end up with 0 gp and 1 million thread. Your main ends up with 0 thread and 16 million gp.

Nobody else is going to buy thread from grand exchange. Especially not a million of them, so your scheme won't be interrupted by others. And even if someone steps in and buys 1k thread, so what? You bought for 4 ea, they paid you 3 ea, you're out 1k.

At the end, you can walk your autoer back to the crafting shop and sell it all back for 2 gp each. End result, you give RS 2 million gp, leave 2 million on autoer, and transfer 16 million to main through grand exchange.

Total time to do this would be about 15-30 minutes, including all the buying, trading, and walking.

And of course, if you have an entire army each with millions of gp to transfer, you can have them use the same lump of thread everyone else is using, just by having them buy at 4 gp next transaction and then start selling back and forth.


This would work, think about it there cant be 1m of thread on the market??? Feathers yes, probably into the 20's of millions could be even more. Tarajunky for this you get some rep.

Putnam

2007-12-15 23:26:49

o i get it now… hah its a start, do you mean we all like buy it from others for maximum till the price goes up? if thats what u mean, good idea lol

Jackrawl

2007-12-15 23:30:07

Oh my god you people are making this overcomplicated!
We don't have to do anything except sell things by shop prices, not by 'popular prices amongst players' for some items, and for others just repeat trades back and forth a few times…
Can you people tell me why this is so hard to deal with?

aran armath

2007-12-16 01:42:32

From: JackLKrawl
Oh my god you people are making this overcomplicated!
We don't have to do anything except sell things by shop prices, not by 'popular prices amongst players' for some items, and for others just repeat trades back and forth a few times…
Can you people tell me why this is so hard to deal with?


Because you didnt read… You can only have a difference of 3k in from the market value every 15 minutes. so good luck to you for trading 3k every 15 minutes. Now for the rest of us i think we all have a good plan coming along, we will just need cooperation from everyone.

red eyes 20

2007-12-16 04:48:44

From: tarajunky
Your autoer takes 4 million gp to Crafting house. Buys 1 million thread, which all stacks in one spot in your inventory, so no banking necessary. Autoer then walks to Grand Exchange. Sells all for 3 each.

Your main buys all for 3 million. Re-lists at 4 million. Your autoer buys at 4 million, re-sells all for 3 million.

Every time you do this transaction, you trade 1 million gp from your autoer to your main. If your autoer started with 20 million, you do it 16 times and end up with 0 gp and 1 million thread. Your main ends up with 0 thread and 16 million gp.

Nobody else is going to buy thread from grand exchange. Especially not a million of them, so your scheme won't be interrupted by others. And even if someone steps in and buys 1k thread, so what? You bought for 4 ea, they paid you 3 ea, you're out 1k.

At the end, you can walk your autoer back to the crafting shop and sell it all back for 2 gp each. End result, you give RS 2 million gp, leave 2 million on autoer, and transfer 16 million to main through grand exchange.

Total time to do this would be about 15-30 minutes, including all the buying, trading, and walking.

And of course, if you have an entire army each with millions of gp to transfer, you can have them use the same lump of thread everyone else is using, just by having them buy at 4 gp next transaction and then start selling back and forth.


plus in the prosess it might end up being a 4:6 ratio by then =p

i tihnk we've cracked jagex, now to get myself unaddicted from the new game im playing and back on rs now that we've figured it out! woot!!

Rs-Gp-4U

2007-12-16 10:21:45

:d:d:d We Kik Fagex's Butt :d:d:d

supersain

2007-12-16 12:20:08

omg tarajunky

i like your thinking lol

your idea could work perfectly

aran armath

2007-12-16 12:22:38

From: supersain
omg tarajunky

i like your thinking lol

your idea could work perfectly


Yes. But I just know some noob is going to mess it all up. Some little dude who we all are going to hate, is going to just forget to take down all there thread.

EDIT: 1 more post till 300.

IEatJ00erBaybees

2007-12-16 20:48:23

TaraJunky is REALLY smart. It's a little more effort, and you still couldn't do anything with the black market, but if you want to do stuff w/ your main, then..well, there you go.

aran armath

2007-12-16 22:42:04

Guys lets not stop thinking. I still am, even though have been proven wrong many times by myself lol. But keep those brains working.

red eyes 20

2007-12-16 23:43:00

yeah, tara is now the most respected person on srl by me =)

mnagi85

2007-12-17 10:39:44

Yeah, good luck with that tara; you go and have a dandy time finding 1 million thread…

Besides this would artificially inflate the price, causing eventually a lot of legit players to catch on, and doing the same thing.

Rikje

2007-12-17 10:49:06

@Tarajunk, nice one! when i have some time left i gonna try this.
but,, we realize that jagex reads this? :p

red eyes 20

2007-12-17 17:26:24

From: mnagi85
Yeah, good luck with that tara; you go and have a dandy time finding 1 million thread…

Besides this would artificially inflate the price, causing eventually a lot of legit players to catch on, and doing the same thing.



im amazed that some one who'd been at srl so long would be so naive.
you can buy-x thread at the store, which
tara states even. bah. and non the less insault tara like that.

noahthepoo

2007-12-18 02:47:23

idea?? i think an idea is to get our autos with lets say 10mill and sell the auto acc with the 10m on it the price of the gold would go up cuz it comes with the auto acc

Minithug

2007-12-18 08:12:35

i dont get it.. if i trade with myself i dont need to keep it balanced.. thats strange.. :S

red eyes 20

2007-12-18 14:52:30

From: noahthepoo
idea?? i think an idea is to get our autos with lets say 10mill and sell the auto acc with the 10m on it the price of the gold would go up cuz it comes with the auto acc


maybe we're not RWT'ers and just want money on our mins to have fun with?





From: Minithug
i dont get it.. if i trade with myself i dont need to keep it balanced.. thats strange.. :S



dude… siriously read the current rs news.

Shawn1533

2007-12-18 18:56:53

he has a point but i dont think thats what the "balenced trade" means. i think its just so u dont get ripped off but idk though

red eyes 20

2007-12-19 01:57:13

From: Shawn1533
he has a point but i dont think thats what the "balenced trade" means. i think its just so u dont get ripped off but idk though




read the rs news o.o..

king vash

2007-12-19 02:35:49

Can't you just make use of multiple accounts and unbalnced, blanced trades, this is what i do.
My bank has 1million buys 1.1-2 million goods off of 10 accounts making him 10-100k each, they look like balanced trades but i'm really making money, then sell them back for .9-.5 million doubling money again.

Setup:
bank-1 Million GP
10 x Auto-100k worth of logs

Steps
1.) 10 x auto sell logs for 75k to bank
2.) 10 x auto buy back half the logs at 75k (50k worth of logs)
3.) repeat 2,3 once more

Net Result
Bank - Original 1M + 75k logs
10 x Autoers - 25k logs
Runescape: still stupid

The amount you cheat out of each trade determines how many times you need to do it but I think this works. anyone see any problems with it?

JAD

2007-12-19 16:51:20

Actually, me and Boreas were working on this exact idea for a while… But there are several reasons it doesn't work.

1) there are very few items (believe it or not) that aren't being bought or sold at the grand exchange. The noobs try to sell everything… We only found 3 items that would work.

2) We found an item that would work, but then we couldn't buy it and sell it right away. There was like a 5 minute penalty so we didn't get the item right away.

We tried many things with the GE idea and didn't get anything that would transfer money any faster than trading 3k to your main every 15 minutes.

red eyes 20

2007-12-19 17:32:55

hm, well idk then, but it's not 10, 100 or even 1k of any items being bought or sold be newbies, it's mass quantity, just what we're used to, right?

richk1693

2007-12-20 19:02:07

i'm pretty dayum sure this wasn't your idea in the first place. I read it somewhere before this. ( i think i was munk?)

Tails111

2007-12-20 19:23:33

You know we could just make a script that will Run and Trade 3k from your auto to you main every 15 min, Logging out in between it. Wouldn't be that hard. And you would run it over night. You can run 4 times in 1 hour, so 12k an hour, 8 hour night, 96k a night. Not the best but it would work.

Lalaji

2007-12-20 22:48:07

What if autoer goes to a lonely place with money/ autoed goods and dies by an NPC, can main pick the stuff up? or 3k limit there aswell?

EDIT : W()()T!@!! 600th Post!!!~

P1nky

2007-12-20 22:58:52

no lol its a grave thingy

read rs homepage

meus_vita

2007-12-21 02:41:48

So in concept ur idea is okk..
It would take ages to collect the items…
but i think u can use auto wheat picker by nielsie….
and u can try this idea but
not tht usefull as iit takes long to collect the items….
not worth it lol

ooples

2007-12-21 03:00:57

if you work for jagex or ar relter 2 any 1 who works for jagex u cant be on this web site , but if u are and you hi light this , i rezerve the right 2 sue u and yor copreaton for 10,000,000$ usd so pleaze readlol how about u have the auttower have say 200k and then u have him fight a gard and he die and u pick it up , but the 2 ar the only 2 in the aira or u have a frend on the auttoer

red eyes 20

2007-12-21 11:11:45

ok, ooples, can you go to the newb pool? =p cause siriously if you don't have enough info on the game it's self, please, don't bother trying to cheat it!! gees' if it was that simple we wouldn't be trying some thing else? huh? no jagex put a 3k max limit on the items drop on the ground, even by death.

so any way i don't think that some one with pre school spelling could sue for 10million usd, any way, correct me if i'm wrong, sorry for bashing here, but i can't handle the newbies any more! o.O
(i realise i probably only have 5th grader's spelling, but hey, you can read it)

and my whole high light letter thing really isn't to keep out jagex, just the newbies who would screw this over trying to make some quick cash -.-

IEatJ00erBaybees

2007-12-21 18:15:29

From: noahthepoo
idea?? i think an idea is to get our autos with lets say 10mill and sell the auto acc with the 10m on it the price of the gold would go up cuz it comes with the auto acc


One thing wrong w/ that idea. People don't buy gold so they can keep it on another account and do nothing with it.

But here's a thing, Runescape obviously won't back down. They didn't lose anybody! They have always had 200k people on at a time, right?

"There are currently 195968 people playing!"

Looks like the update worked. People are still hooked.

ooples

2007-12-22 00:26:26

From: red eyes 20
ok, ooples, can you go to the newb pool? =p cause siriously if you don't have enough info on the game it's self, please, don't bother trying to cheat it!! gees' if it was that simple we wouldn't be trying some thing else? huh? no jagex put a 3k max limit on the items drop on the ground, even by death.

so any way i don't think that some one with pre school spelling could sue for 10million usd, any way, correct me if i'm wrong, sorry for bashing here, but i can't handle the newbies any more! o.O
(i realise i probably only have 5th grader's spelling, but hey, you can read it)

and my whole high light letter thing really isn't to keep out jagex, just the newbies who would screw this over trying to make some quick cash -.-


im diselicik ,a nd new 2 english/america i didnt read up date

infested999

2007-12-22 10:33:55

i dont get it lol

Rct33

2007-12-24 06:04:02

From: ooples
im diselicik ,a nd new 2 english/america i didnt read up date

I'm dyslexic too, but it doesn't mean I can't spell simple words.

I think the only way this is gonna work is trading little bits at a time to your main.

red eyes 20

2007-12-24 22:59:45

c'mon ideas, keep em coming
and i just heard that jagex is going to hire a team to manage the GE =(
so here come gov controlled prices and editing the market so we can't use it to our advantage, worth a try though.

alphazero

2007-12-28 04:19:10

Whats the limit on the party room? Time wise i mean. Theroetically, you could take an item, say 49k worth of coal, and drop it, i believe its only a 10 sec delay. Main picks it up rinse and repeat. its no insta wealth, but its perfectly doable. 49.5k x6 ~ 297k per minute. Better then nothing i suppose XD.

alphazero

2007-12-28 04:24:44

"# A value of up to 50k: there is a 10 second delay before the balloons drop.
# 50k - 150k: there is a 1 minute delay before the balloons drop. The Falador bankers and Party Room barmaids will announce that a party is happening.
# 150k - 1 million: there is a 5 minute delay before the balloons drop. The Falador men and women, bankers and Party Room barmaids will announce that a party is happening."

the million + is just silly time, but yeah, i think the 280k-299k a minute could work. Least for raws, coal mith iron bars, logs, all auto things pretty much, which could be transfered into money on your main. But can you drop money? o.O

lostnscript

2007-12-28 08:17:09

no it wont work i could bet my life on it

[S]paz

2007-12-28 08:20:34

theory, yes
reality, no

~Spaz

summerkid91

2007-12-28 10:45:15

very confusing…

alphazero

2007-12-29 09:11:29

Well, you can, but its kind of like the tread idea. What you need are all your bots to run around and pop the balloons, because the items could disappear, or they return to the drop able section, either way, it is possible spend 1-2k and get 49k back, not bad. WAY faster then the 3k ~ 15 minutes.

make a script have your army pop ballons, you pick up the goods. Simplistic really.

forgottenlife

2007-12-29 12:05:30

what i dont get is that the balenced welath thing only apllies to some accounts at the moment and not others??
yell at me if im being a noob! lol :confused:

vcvv

2007-12-30 00:36:41

How bout if we make enough money on the auto accounts to buy rares like trimmed armour or discontinued rares then sell them to a general store with no one around and let our main buy them.

Phlame1

2007-12-30 00:38:54

Tad bit on the confusing side buddy.

vcvv

2007-12-30 01:18:21

From: Phlame1
Tad bit on the confusing side buddy.


???

1. Make enough to buy rares items, including treasure trail items, or discontinued items.
2. Find a world with a general store and no one around it.
3. Sell the item to the general store(on the autoer).
4. Buy the item with your main.

whyando

2007-12-30 07:50:38

just macro on your main

vcvv

2007-12-30 15:36:47

From: whyando
just macro on your main


It wouldn't be as fast as a couple players working together at a time.

Lalaji

2007-12-30 16:37:24

From: vcvv
???

1. Make enough to buy rares items, including treasure trail items, or discontinued items.
2. Find a world with a general store and no one around it.
3. Sell the item to the general store(on the autoer).
4. Buy the item with your main.



Highly risky, but it should work. Besides, we make nothing (more) to lose…

red eyes 20

2007-12-31 04:35:58

sigh, your all newbies
i will now explain you problems with all your ideas now;

Well, you can, but its kind of like the tread idea. What you need are all your bots to run around and pop the balloons, because the items could disappear, or they return to the drop able section, either way, it is possible spend 1-2k and get 49k back, not bad. WAY faster then the 3k ~ 15 minutes.

make a script have your army pop ballons, you pick up the goods. Simplistic really.


er, yes but if the drop parties worth in the party chest is over 200k, every NPC in fallador will say that there's a party and oh so many legit player will come take your auto goods.

How bout if we make enough money on the auto accounts to buy rares like trimmed armour or discontinued rares then sell them to a general store with no one around and let our main buy them.


yes, that used to work but when you try to rebuy the itemss, you'll find that you'll try and buy them at G E item price.

It wouldn't be as fast as a couple players working together at a time.


errr. are you rsdemon? hmm.. cause scar only can play ONE account at atime.

if you need to have any ideas DE-bunk'ed just go ahead and post, maybe it'll live though my well seasoned rs brain.

vcvv

2007-12-31 04:59:36

From: red eyes 20

yes, that used to work but when you try to rebuy the itemss, you'll find that you'll try and buy them at G E item price.


How do you know the price of the item will raise up to the GE price?

From: red eyes 20

errr. are you rsdemon? hmm.. cause scar only can play ONE account at atime.

I ment using VMware or any other Virtual PC

Swift

2007-12-31 06:36:43

You guys aren't serious about trying to manipulate the prices in RS, are you?

LOL

PingPong

2007-12-31 12:41:40

I guess the party room is the best way to go..Or go to a empty Bounty world on a not so full time while wearing treasure trails items, also in your inv..Would have to train your accounts to at least 50? And have a level 90 account for the middle transfer and 18 friends :D Lot's of reqs but you can do it still..(18 friends because you need 10 people to get transferred into bounty hunter minigame..you need 18 friends because you need 9 friends for the first transfer and 9 for 2nd transfer(if you're 100+)..Have to train to 50 since there is 3 portals in the bounty hunter, under 50, 50 to 100 and 90+..If your main is 100+ you need the 90 to xfer stuff from 50 to 100..) So basicly you buy treasure trail items with your lvl 50, transfer the stuff to your lvl 90, and transfer the stuff from the lvl 90 to your main..

Soxyfany

2007-12-31 16:40:12

It kinda makes since..but not as good as the old way =(

Phlame1

2007-12-31 17:59:33

Guys dont sweat it this happened 2 years ago and the macroers in 2 months were back on their feet again and were massively macroing


When the hell did this happen in the past?

Swift

2007-12-31 18:03:31

I think he means Aryan and when Jagex mass banned like 20,000 autoers…Not sure though.

chitin

2007-12-31 19:19:30

From: tysl2417
Guys dont sweat it this happened 2 years ago and the macroers in 2 months were back on their feet again and were massively macroing


…riiighht….

ok so i kinda get what your saying, and i kinda get what the person you quoted is saying, but wouldnt this be too much of a hasstle? it might work, but you need alot of people, and up to jan 2? i think you need to wait around another month to make this worthwhile to ppl, and only do it with trusted people?..i dunno….also, there is a law..(i think i saw it before-made by clinton i think) that says they cant look at what your sceeming?…i duno….im assuming its same concept as cops-they wont do anything until somthing actualy happens to you lol?..

red eyes 20

2008-01-02 03:55:10

ah, ok i understand vcvv, but i know for a fact that when you try and rebuy items their at the ge standed price, go find out your self!



*yay 200th post!! *

Niki

2008-01-02 05:34:09

i couldn“t understand anything! :S

vcvv

2008-01-02 06:58:09

From: Niki
i couldn“t understand anything! :S


Reread everything.
If you still don't understand, don't reply, you will just be spamming.

L3ss Than 33

2008-01-02 10:03:01

I think that redeyes way won't work because Jagex would have forseen this.

Aran's way is still too slow for my liking (The drop trading part).

I guess it's our only shot though for the moment. Maybe when the new PvP arenas come out will be our window of opportunity…

red eyes 20

2008-01-03 00:25:57

found another theory,
and yes i beleave jagex forseen this cause they said they themselves will correct items prices if their outa whack.

footballjds

2008-01-03 01:06:42

oinions FTW!;)

nielsie95

2008-01-03 04:46:55

Moved to Strategical info.
Stay on-toppic and stop the spamming though, or this will get closed.

red eyes 20

2008-01-03 10:50:08

alrighty nielsie, just no look in this forum LIKE THEY ALL SHOULD! =p
k if your a srl person and know what your doing i will tell you my new loop hole though pm, cause i don't want newbs to know.

Bombo

2008-01-03 11:06:32

I'm too lazy to read everyone's post, but there's a solution I think no one has had so far, and by reading the first and second pages to this thread, the most efficient. It's an easy solution, and all the money will be transferred in one go.

Pm me for it and I will send you the link.

~Bombo

Macro_FTW

2008-01-09 15:05:56

The Grand Exchange things won't work if you do them a lot. Why?

Who honestly is going to trade 1M thread/whatever back and forth? Jagex's G.E. team will see "500M thread traded today" with
Auto1 sold 1M thread to Main1 for 3M.
Main1 sold 1M thread to Auto1 for 4M.
over and over again.

There *is* one way to make money autoing and getting it, risk free, on your main. I am working on a script for it now. Expect to see it out in a week, tops. ^_^

tarajunky

2008-01-09 15:37:56

I tried thread. Didn't work.

I bought like 10k thread just to test, then tried selling. It just sat there, forever. Even when I tried to buy it on another character for the selling price, it sat there for days. I think some items are regulated by Jagex. Thread definitely is. Buckets are. Water filled buckets are. If you try to buy 10,000 buckets, it will just sit there. And every 8 hours or whatever you will magically get 100 buckets. Always 100. So, I think some items like these are not set to be traded through the exchange, but are being dispensed in small increments by Jagex.

However, there is ANOTHER item besides thread that actually worked. I was able to trade several million gps between autoers and main using it. The only problem was that someone else appeared to be using the same item during that time, so sometimes there would be extra gobs of it sitting on the exchange causing problems. There is also a delay between when you put new items up on the exchange and when the trade actually goes through. If there is an old buy request sitting there, it will perform the trade immediately. But if you put in a buy and sell at the same time, it might not go through for many hours.

So this strategy works in principle, and I have used to myself, but it's not as simple as I originally thought it might be.

vcvv

2008-01-09 18:46:19

Why is it when I put 4k trout and 1k iron arrows, no one ever buys it, Are you saying Jagex automatically "buys" your buckets?

tarajunky

2008-01-09 19:38:33

No, they don't buy items, only sell them.

I guess it makes sense. Nobody needs more than one hammer, or more than one chisel. So why let people sell millions of them? And they don't want people to have to sit and wait for other people to sell a hammer to the exchange, so they just inject hammers into the exchange at regular intervals to let people buy small amounts of them for personal use.

At least I think that's how it's working based on my observations.

vcvv

2008-01-09 19:50:31

How bout items worth more?
Like the discontinued rares?
The discontinued items might not be "discontinued" now, cause Jagex mught "sell" some to the Grand Exchange at a high price.

Macro_FTW

2008-01-09 20:00:22

From: vcvv
How bout items worth more?
Like the discontinued rares?
The discontinued items might not be "discontinued" now, cause Jagex mught "sell" some to the Grand Exchange at a high price.


I don't believe that they will add to the part of the game that they apparently dislike.

Also- the party room wouldn't work so well. How will you pop all of those balloons in that tiny amount of time. :cartman:

ge0force

2008-01-09 22:18:24

kk another soloution to this would be a whole different approach…its liike pk killing……u seee…jagex mentioned that a new..non-multiplayer pvp combat area will be realeased in the first half of this year……..all u need to do…is go fight with ur main and lose..now wat about the " no non-battle related items alowed " rule?…it pretty eazy…buy something with your money thats battle related -_-..(rune g, comp bow, the ammulets from treasure trails…ect…)

vcvv

2008-01-09 22:31:12

From: Macro_FTW
I don't believe that they will add to the part of the game that they apparently dislike.

Also- the party room wouldn't work so well. How will you pop all of those balloons in that tiny amount of time. :cartman:


So there's a set time for when the balloons will disappear?

pizzownage

2008-01-09 23:17:14

the idea is like communism… Its a good IDEA, but it wont work well. Kinda risky and hard to follow there

vcvv

2008-01-09 23:19:50

From: pizzownage
the idea is like communism… Its a good IDEA, but it wont work well. Kinda risky and hard to follow there


For what?

gamer 5

2008-01-09 23:26:55

Who ever didn't get this message in this, I feel sorry for them:p

oh yea just like my sig says:
This is for Jagex :f: for doing that!

Macro_FTW

2008-01-10 06:22:30

From: vcvv
So there's a set time for when the balloons will disappear?


Yes, the balloons disappear after two minutes, if I remember correctly. I tried doing a drop party in Falador before the bankers yelling their hearts out. I put 5k in the chest, and got around ~2.4k back before the balloons started disappearing (I got ~3k back before all of the balloons disappeared). Popping balloons (animation) and picking stuff up really slows you down. Not to mention the fact that balloons cover almost every part of the grid in the party room.

For this to work, you'd need to have at least two accounts popping balloons and one telegrabbing any items that appear afterwards. If you have two computers, this is easily possible if someone would make a balloon popping script. (You could also have a third account popping balloons with two computers. ;) )

red eyes 20

2008-01-10 14:26:39

hmmmm. sad to hear your idea didn't work correctly, tarajunky, i will also continue testing methods i think of. i will NEVER give up trying to figure out a way! ever!

Markus

2008-01-17 16:14:37


Many of Summoning's secondary ingredients were not classed as raw materials on the Grand Exchange. This meant that players were limited to selling 100 of any item at one time. This cap has been lifted and you can now buy or sell Summoning secondary ingredients in larger quantities.

So, non raw-materials can only be bought/sold in quantities of 100. Interesting.
This is some proof for Tarajunky's "Jagex randomly gives them themselves" theory…

Macro_FTW

2008-01-17 19:01:09

From: Markus
So, non raw-materials can only be bought/sold in quantities of 100. Interesting.
This is some proof for Tarajunky's "Jagex randomly gives them themselves" theory…


True. Mabye some one could make an auto-toad leg collecter? :confused:

Hmm……..

:eek: ! I have an idea! Let's just reverse what we'll be doing.

For instance, I want to trade 100M from a macroer to my main. I buy 1M Regular Logs on my main for the medium price (pretend it's 95 each). I put them up on my main for the max price (100 each), and buy them all on my macroer for 100 each. Then, I sell them on my macroer for 90 each.

It got 5M to my main, and 10M off of my macroer.

This could work really well with stable items, like Nature Runes.

-Buy 100K nature runes for 27.5M on my main
-Sell them on the GE for 29M to my macroer
-Macroer sells the Natures for 26M.

Enjoy :)

L3ss Than 33

2008-01-17 19:55:33

From: Macro_FTW
True. Mabye some one could make an auto-toad leg collecter? :confused:

Hmm……..

:eek: ! I have an idea! Let's just reverse what we'll be doing.

For instance, I want to trade 100M from a macroer to my main. I buy 1M Regular Logs on my main for the medium price (pretend it's 95 each). I put them up on my main for the max price (100 each), and buy them all on my macroer for 100 each. Then, I sell them on my macroer for 90 each.

It got 5M to my main, and 10M off of my macroer.

This could work really well with stable items, like Nature Runes.

-Buy 100K nature runes for 27.5M on my main
-Sell them on the GE for 29M to my macroer
-Macroer sells the Natures for 26M.

Enjoy :)


I like this idea. You have to make sure you have a ton of money on both accounts for this to work though. Only problem is, some people will just sell natures (for example) for the maximum price, hoping someone will do this…

tarajunky

2008-01-17 20:08:22

No, the problem with that is that a bajillion other people are selling nature runes for less than max price.

If you try to buy nats on your autoer at max price, you'll get someone elses pretty much every time. And the nats your main is selling will sit there unsold for weeks.

Macro_FTW

2008-01-17 20:10:18

From: tarajunky
No, the problem with that is that a bajillion other people are selling nature runes for less than max price.

If you try to buy nats on your autoer at max price, you'll get someone elses pretty much every time. And the nats your main is selling will sit there unsold for weeks.


Natures were an example. A way to avoid all of the people who press the up arrow and leave would be to buy/sell it for 1 gp below the max price. :rolleyes:

red eyes 20

2008-01-19 02:57:10

yeah, tara's right, most all of items, especially non member items (all of our armies are non member right?) are highly traded by other people, litterally millions of other people, it would interfeire so much that even amounts of 100m would be effected so much the the time and energy put into getting it would be wasted because of the extreme loss of GeePee during the process, and not to mention the time it takes to do all of that.