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As you all might have seen or heard, solarwind and his "team" have cracked ruler's Nexus, and he is handing it out for free.

I have a itchy banfinger for this guy. I am tempted to permban him, I.P.ban him and let him think over about what he did. I wont return to KYAB as I dont like the atmosphere over there. This boy is to sad for words. I say ban him, even if it means he will spread S.M.A.R.T..

http://www.kyab.asssoft.org/smf/index.php/topic,880.0.html

Seems like he sees us as a piece of shit.. Well it doesn't matter if we say he's not welcome here,

Perm.

~Raymond

From: mastaraymond
http://www.kyab.asssoft.org/smf/index.php/topic,880.0.html

Seems like he sees us as a piece of shit.. Well it doesn't matter if we say he's not welcome here,

Perm.

~Raymond

I personally have no issues with Solar but from what has happened with him and from his attitude on the forums and some of the things he's done in the past I say we perm ban him.

Also Ray can you post what he said on there I don't have an account, and I really don't want to make one.

Oh, and whats Nexus? I've never heard of it before.

Nexus is iBot.
But can't we just stay out of this? This is SRL, not RSCheata or KYAB. We only get people angry at us. If we don't do anything we can remain completely neutral. If we ban him, it looks like we're choosing sides, and that'll cause teh KYAB community to flame the shit out of us. I don't want to be involved in the fight between Solar and Ruler.
(Forget everything I posted above if he advertised his cracked Nexus here, then just ban him for life)

TBH, IMHO, I wish that kid would dissapear, get exiled into no where, and dissapear. I seriously want to nuke his hometown just cuz of him. Hell, the whole country. I am sick of his bullwhip. But banning him w/ KYAB + All SRL member scripts = nono. I think we are f-awkd.

I would have instantly banned him already…
Only problem is he has SMART, but he would get it from someone else either way.
I blocked him from downloading attachments some time ago. ;)

I say that you just tell him to keep him and his problems off of SRL Forums and to handle them on his own time. He knows what he did is against the rules. Give him a permanent 2 infractions (assuming that 3 is a temp ban) so if he fucks up again he'll be out.

He has been banned before, permanently, for cracking Starblaster100's essence miner. He came back like 5 months later.
I say we show him we just don't want him here anymore. (ban)
Action like his are not worthy of SRL.

From: Wizzup?
He has been banned before, permanently, for cracking Starblaster100's essence miner. He came back like 5 months later.
I say we show him we just don't want him here anymore. (ban)
Action like his are not worthy of SRL.

Wzizup, atm, he probably has SMART + alot of SRL scripts.

perm ban, hes no use to us here
but also…maybe its time to release smart to the masses?

cause he will release smart as soon as he is banned. so, lets release it first, then ban

:'(

SRL members will then again we boring and nothing specail. Same thing happend with Kebab.

I guess you could take it that way Claw, but I'd still talk to Benland about that first.

Who knows, I say IP ban, and if he does start giving out SMART well, thats good for him, but if he starts selling it I think we should just release it to the masses, because If he sold it and then people found out it was a free program he'd be in some trouble.

But if he just posts it on the forums here or at KYAB we can remove it here but if he posts it at KYAB, then oh well nothing we can do then, and if he just didn't do anything well… good for us I guess.

I say talk to Benland, see if he's OK with releasing SMART to the public. Then IP Ban solar, and have a couple people just scan the forums for any posts with SMART in it (If he proxies and decides to make an account an post it). If he does post it IP Ban that account and remove the thread. I'm sure we'll have someone online at all times who can remove posts / ban.

From: Special Ed
I guess you could take it that way Claw, but I'd still talk to Benland about that first.

Who knows, I say IP ban, and if he does start giving out SMART well, thats good for him, but if he starts selling it I think we should just release it to the masses, because If he sold it and then people found out it was a free program he'd be in some trouble.

But if he just posts it on the forums here or at KYAB we can remove it here but if he posts it at KYAB, then oh well nothing we can do then, and if he just didn't do anything well… good for us I guess.

I say talk to Benland, see if he's OK with releasing SMART to the public. Then IP Ban solar, and have a couple people just scan the forums for any posts with SMART in it (If he proxies and decides to make an account an post it). If he does post it IP Ban that account and remove the thread. I'm sure we'll have someone online at all times who can remove posts / ban.

yea, but its basically guaranteed that he will release it. this is solar we're talking about, im suprised he hasnt already :rolleyes: he wont sell it, thats not the kind of guy he is. he prefers to uncover stuff, humiliate people, show them how good he his and how much better he is than them. the main reason to release it before banning i guess is because we dont want to look like we've been forced into it. if we release it after he does, its basically saying to the community "yes, solar has beaten us again, we are only releasing because of him". not good for our pride and stuff

and also how could we stop him releasing over msn? we can stop posts here, but no where else. no use just trying to remove all the posts he makes, cause if he wants to spread it then he will.

benland100 (lets see if he comes to this topic now :D ) what are your thoughts?

Who's idea was to release to SRL members? It should've been an SSRL thing only :'(

Yea I figured as much, but I'm just trying to put out some new ideas…

Possibly release a cover of it (Maybe like a trial version or something) that acts and looks just like the real one but it has a limited time on it and the full version is SRL Members only. That may fool him into thinking that we just released it to everyone making him feel that he doesn't need to give it to people. Then after he's long gone the trail will run out and he will still think people have the full version.

Its a stretch but like I said I'm just trying to get some ideas out there.

Part of the reason he is speading nexus is that ruler demodded/banned him. ATM he isn't planning to do anything to SRL (other than try to get more people to come to his site) or SMART, because it's free. But who knows what he will be tempted to do if banned.

Make it clear that he isn't to post that shit here, but don't ban unless you don't mind SRL member stuff leaked (which it is anyway, but w/e).

It's interesting, but when ruler reported that post, his comment was:

"Who's side are you on?"

Of course I immediately deleted the thread because we can't support stealing another community's stuff like that, but I don't think we want to get involved in this squabble between Solarwind and ruler. We can only hurt our own community by doing so.

Better to remain neutral on all that, I think.

My gut says use that itchy ban finger. My head says don't.

He will just leak our stuff everywhere. But what he did was downright shameful, and completely unacceptable.

Maybe banning him will be worth the leakage?

I saw we do Wizzup?s idea rather then banning

Change his password and his 'mother' email address so that he can't request a password change. So then he might not get pissed b/c technically we didnt ban him. Also he's gonna figure out he cant d/l anything sooner or later.

Edit:
Is Nexus copyrighted?
Cause RScheata might find some way to legally prosecute Solar even if it isn't maybe get his site shut down and some other stuff. Basically cripple Solars access to internet resources.

Also @ ray
I banned your second account, please don't do it again.

I think everyone could do with out him, but I think that if we do not mess with him he will not mess with us. We should avoid conflict with other communities. Otherwise we would just run into some trouble later in the future. Solar has not cause trouble on these forums recently (as far as I know of). Plus it can be very good to stay neutral :p. Maybe one day Solar will get bored with us and forget all about SRL :).

IMO We could do without Solar, but we should leave him alone for the time being.

From: Hobbit
I saw we do Wizzup?s idea rather then banning

Change his password and his 'mother' email address so that he can't request a password change. So then he might not get pissed b/c technically we didnt ban him. Also he's gonna figure out he cant d/l anything sooner or later.

Edit:
Is Nexus copyrighted?
Cause RScheata might find some way to legally prosecute Solar even if it isn't maybe get his site shut down and some other stuff. Basically cripple Solars access to internet resources.

Also @ ray
I banned your second account, please don't do it again.

Awww. Why?


Also, why are you guys so scared SMART is gonne get leaked? Even if he posts it, 5% is smart enough to figure out how to work with it.. I don't see a big problem..

Ok, summary of what will happen if we ban Solar:
I'm sure he got ALL SRL members stuff on his hard disk, especially now Tara gave him that infraction, he might be warned that we might ban him, so he saved all stuff.
When we ban him, he'll be pissed off, just like when Ruler banned him. He'll release all stuff to his KYAB community for free, saying something like: 'OMFG now SRL is interfering with MY personal fight with Ruler, they must support Ruler!! Stupid assholes, like I messed with them'.
My question is, do we want SRL Members section to be leaked completely to public?
Oh, and he'll probably create a S.M.A.R.T. pack and release it, so everybody can use it.
Only hope we might have is that half of his community is SRL Members, and probably against leaking S.M.A.R.T., but when he gets angry and says that it's our fault, many of the active people there will turn against us.

Not nessecarraly (damn i can never spell that)

[Banana]Define Warez: Widely used to denote cracked or pirate versions of commercial software. In other words, illegal pirated software.[/banana]

As well all know, posting warez is strictly agaisnt the rules here and will result in a perm ban. ;)

Is against the rules here
But did he post here?

yep he made a thread about it, tara removed it

Who cares.. If we don't bane him because he MIGHT release SMART we cannot ban anyone..

I mean, rules are rules..

If he leaks it bad luck..
Anyway it will be leaked by someone else though..

Well if he broke the rules , and that rule says perm ban if broken… then perm ban him.

Ban, ban, ban, ban….. Ban! (It sounds better when you put it to music…) :)

Finally! Ban! Ban! Ban!
And anyway, let Ruler and Solar fight amongst each other, than at least they'll leave us alone for a while, I'm more than fed up with both of them…

After thinking, take a chance. Maybe he doesn't have all our stuff…?

:)

what was that thing i saw when, if you come to the site, it takes ages to load because of some really big cookie, then people gradually disappear cause they cant be asked to wait that long.
you know what i mean? i remember dankness and flyboy discussing it, flyboy made a throwaway account to test it, but it lagged him so much, he had to delete his cookies to get back onto his real account. :)

or failing that, ban him.

From: Yakman
what was that thing i saw when, if you come to the site, it takes ages to load because of some really big cookie, then people gradually disappear cause they cant be asked to wait that long.
you know what i mean? i remember dankness and flyboy discussing it, flyboy made a throwaway account to test it, but it lagged him so much, he had to delete his cookies to get back onto his real account. :)

or failing that, ban him.

You can set a cookie with a value that tells the web server to take a very long time returning the page using something similar to SCARS sleep function.

don't ban. His brain is that of a 10 year old. Or at least his mentality and maturity is. Don't let him post stuff like that on these forums, other than that, leave him alone. We don't need enemies.

Edit: I just realaized that I am the only person who voted no, so i figured i would be a bit more descript in my reasons.

First off, we all know that he has deserved banment for a long time now. He is a crapy person, alwyas has been, and always will be.

However, a ban punishment wont do anyhting to him. it wont make him stop and think, it wont even slow him down. He doesnt have the maturity to even take it as an insult, he has been practically begging for a ban for quite a while now.

We got him to cool his jets a little bit when he got his seperate forum, and this is good, as it keeps him off of this forum, as a ban would do. Beyond that, your not going to get much else.

Even a ban wont keep him off the forums, this kid is pretty computer savy, and there is no IP ban, or any sort of ban that you can do that will stop him. Please, this guy has done much more impresive stuff beyond avoiding an IP check.

It will give him all the excuse he needs to make an even bigger war on srl, he will crack through and relase anything he can, and constantly do whatever he can to hurt the forum.

No good will come out of banning him,
No good will come out of not banning him

but at least this way we arent egging him on.

My thoughts exactly.


but just because he thinks he is good (is not pretending one of SRL Rules) does not mean we have no right to ban him… Solar maybe should get banned .. as far as im concerned he has not helped out the community in the least bit for a while.


lets just get it over it was comming anyway why wait lets ban him now.

From: Dark_Sniper
but just because he thinks he is good (is not pretending one of SRL Rules)

lets just get it over it was comming anyway why wait lets ban him now.

Sniper… I ve got some bad news for you… He IS good. He defanitly knows what he is doing, and he is a very fast and talented learner. He is not someone we want against us, trust me.

He deserves to be banned, ohhhh trust me he does, thats not even debatable. he deserved to be banned the first time I encountered him.

But its better not to, as there is nothing good that can possibly come from it. Please, a simple tor proxy even has a little button "new identity" to instantly switch your IP.

I'll head up to Toronto or wherever the hell he is and kick his ass if you want, its only a hour or so away…

But after thinking about it for a bit, ban his sorry hide.

Greg, Solar is defiantly no good what so ever. Show me one good thing he has done for SRL. The best thing I can possibly think of was "SolarMouse" which looked something like this:

Procedure SolarMouse(x, y, rx, ry : Integer; left : boolean);
begin
  Mouse(x, y, rx, ry, left);
end;

{IMO
He is one of the most arrogant kids I have seen on the web.
He also thinks its his divine right to own and control everything.
}

Also he has it coming to him.
He demands respect, he loves to pretend, he disrespects other SRL Members …
why put off something that can be achieved now… ban him.

From: Yakman
what was that thing i saw when, if you come to the site, it takes ages to load because of some really big cookie, then people gradually disappear cause they cant be asked to wait that long.
you know what i mean? i remember dankness and flyboy discussing it, flyboy made a throwaway account to test it, but it lagged him so much, he had to delete his cookies to get back onto his real account. :)

or failing that, ban him.

He'll just proxy, I guess he's smart enough to find that out.
I say ban.
When we ban, which we will, we'll make a topic about it. So other admins, don't ban yet. :p

I bet you will love pressing that button hey wizz haha

I'd laugh if someone actually got a ban key installed on their computer.
I stick to my opinion. He might not have all of everything. Do it now b4 someone in SSRL leaks to him.

Well, I think if we make a combination of previously posted ideas, and if noone in SSRL leaks to Solar it would probably be in our best interest to do the following.


Create that Cookie call that makes it take forever to load the page and attach it to his MAC Address if at all possible, or if you can't do that attach it to his account, because if we put it on his IP and he proxies he'll be like "WTF why does this one work?".

Also if we can, make it so that the forum will only let his MAC address have one account "Solarwind" which will be unaccessible due to the next step.

2nd change the mother e-mail to something that is one letter off and will be an account of one of ours (i.e. someone will make it). Then we change his password to something very different than what it is. Who ever changes his password must proxy to some other location.

Then we just sit and wait… if he makes another account (if the long loading doesn't work and the MAC address limiting doesn't work) then we just set all of that up for that account.

If your thinking "There is no way to find a MAC address from the internet" I think you may be mistaken I've used sites that say only 1 Computer may have an account here. I've proxied tried changing multiple things on my computer. The only thing I can't change is my MAC address.

you can change ur MAC address, just go out and get urself some new networking gear =) (or just change it, it's technically possible)

MAC adress changing is nub -.- I can spoof it within 25 seconds (router ftw).
And doesn't tor change/spoof the mac adress?

i think you are starting to see my point a little bit more. All a ban would do is prevent him from posting with his "Solar wind" name. Nothing more. And personaly, i would rather him use that name so we know whats up and who to completly disregard as an asws hole.

He doesnt need SMART or anyhting to hurt scar. He is smart, and he is good. Fawki and wizzup both know that having him as an enemy will inevitably, and in some way, be detrimental to the forums, as that will be his goal.

Lets try to keep him away from all this if at all possible.

Greg is right. Solar is an ass, but don't let that cloud your judgment on what's best for the forum.

I say we get everything we make copyrighted. Get ruler to copyright nexus too.
Then is if he releases SMART without permission from us we can sue his ass and get his website shut down for illegally hosting a copyrighted program.

Just don't let him know about the copyright, demote him from members then ban him, threaten to sue him, then force him to remove anything SRL members related from his computer and if he doesn't go through with the suit. It will ruin him, no more site, some extra $$ for SRL, and no more worrying about him leaking the entire members forum.

Yes I know I am a jackass, but so is he.

Can you copyright nexus?(It's based on a copyright thing itself and in itself breaks the law). He sould have never posted cracked nexus here I agree, since this is a neutral community and he knows it. Btw isnt Benland part of kyab?

From: LordGregGreg
i think you are starting to see my point a little bit more. All a ban would do is prevent him from posting with his "Solar wind" name. Nothing more. And personaly, i would rather him use that name so we know whats up and who to completly disregard as an asws hole.

He doesnt need SMART or anyhting to hurt scar. He is smart, and he is good. Fawki and wizzup both know that having him as an enemy will inevitably, and in some way, be detrimental to the forums, as that will be his goal.

Lets try to keep him away from all this if at all possible.

But examples must be set.
At the other idea's, I think we should not underestimate solarwind, his knowledge about the internet makes up for his ignorance.
He will find out about a cookie, definately.

From: Wizzup?
But examples must be set.
At the other idea's, I think we should not underestimate solarwind, his knowledge about the internet makes up for his ignorance.
He will find out about a cookie, definately.

Examples should be set when it will do some good. When it will teach the example a lesson, or when it will show others not o be like him.

This ban would not do either of the two. He won't learn one dang thing from it and you know it, he wont even think one second about it.

And he has already been set, isnt he the forum clown or something? I think that is plenty far enough. Everyone here knows he is an ass, so leave it be, nothing more can be done.

From: Solarwind @ KYAB

Ok, so, all the gmods and admins (and myself eventually) decided this forum is going down the drain due to cracked neXus. We're getting too many mindless idiot leechers here who have no intention of contributing. Too much spam, leechers, idiots. That is unacceptable.

This community was created in the hopes of creating the best RS bots ever made (KYAB and xKYAB). We have many talented people here who have contributed too much to deserve this. Letting this happen was my fault entirely. I am deeply sorry to my fellow members.

The mods/admins have been cleaning up all threads related to neXus in any way. We have moved them to a secure archive board that is only accessible to mods/admins.

There shall be no more talk about cracked neXus on this forum. No spreading of it, no discussion of it, no scripts for neXus or whatsoever. NO MORE TALK ABOUT IT ON THESE FORUMS. Any more threads related to neXus will be closed and removed immediately.

Cracked neXus pro is officially disabled by me. It will not work anymore, for everyone.

So, he saw the light?

hmm… yes… something like that.

Good enough though. Now we can all get back to business, and back to ignoring this kid.

I still think we should make him clown again