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Ok, Well I've been having an argument with some people at school that if you lose at losing then you win or do you lose?

My argument is that if you are trying to lose and then win you'd lose at losing so then… you'd lose… right?

Post your thoughts / arguments I wanna see whats in the minds of SCAR Scripters. XD

[BTW] This isn't entirely spam its going to help my on my psychology research. [/BTW]

I lost trying to get all those words to make sence.


What does that say?

Wha..?! I suppose.. :S You might wanna rephrase for us 'Mentally Challenged' people like me.

well, because our language is based on maths(or the other way around, doesnt matter) if you consider losing to be negative it would turn into winning, but if you consider losing to be positive it would stay losing. losing in itself is rather negative, but you were trying to lose so it might as well be something positive:)

From: Hy71194
Wha..?! I suppose.. :S You might wanna rephrase for us 'Mentally Challenged' people like me.

Wait a minute. Hy..? You too?!

High five!

This is the same thing: "If you are worse then someone, then you suck better."


Well, if I lost at loosing, then technically I didn't loose, did I?

Two negatives make a positive, so I'd say losing at losing mean winning.

You win at whatever you're trying to lose at, but you lose at losing. Pretty simple…

yeahh, losing at losing makes you a winner i suppose.

Lose = x
2x = Win?

its in the eye of the beholder…

you can call it whatever you want, but others may not agree with you.

But pretty much two negatives do make a positive, so if you try to lose and succeed at losing (a game or something) then you have achieved your goal at "losing" so you do infact win (but not the game).

This shit makes my head hurt tho… :eek:

It does not make you a winner, it makes you a loser, because you lose at losing. Make make you a winner at whatever game you lost at, but in the end it makes you a loser for failing to achieve what you set out to. Grr.

In this situation, to lose is to fail, thus, to lose at losing, is to fail at failing. Thus, you have failed, thus you have lost.

If you lose at losing, (aka win), you have lost.

The question is based on relativity, as gerauchert said. Lose at what? Lose at losing or lose overall? Once you got that set, here're your answers:

If it's lose at losing, then you lose.
If it's lose overall, you win.

Relativity sucks. Or does it blow? It depends on your perspective. ^.^

If you lose as losing, you lose.
If you win, you lose at losing.

So you lose.
How is this psychological research?

I guess research wasn't the most appropriate term for that statement. I just meant that I am doing a study on behavioral mentality for psychology class, and am trying to see how people who are apart of communities think, compared to people who are reclusive introverts.

Losing if you want to lose makes you a winner.
Winning if you want to lose makes you a loser.
Losing if you want to win makes you a loser.
Winning if you want to win makes you a winner.

Correct me if I misunderstood your post lol.

Basically, there are two events here.

The first, is to see if you're going to win or lose the minor event.

The second, is to see if you achieved your goal, which is based on your prediction of the first event.

Event two is the overall event, while the first is a minor event that decides the winner of the overall event.

I think I said that pretty simply?

^ so you're saying if you lose an event but meet your goal, you still win..?

So I guess your saying that winning and losing don't really exist so much as accomplishing your objective versus failing to accomplish it, correct?

about the dubble negative making a positive, thats not true for all math systems:)

Theoretically, the guys at NASA haven't published the answers yet.

NASA? What's this have to do with NASA?

It's got to do with the fact that Rob0t loves to spam :p

The people at NASA are rocket scientists. Ever hear "You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure it out!".

well first off to lose you need a task.
the task is losing at losing
to define losing at losing you need to define losing at losing
aka keys stuck in car ,to get the keys you need the keys, but to get the keys you need the keys)(the only way to get the keys is to have the keys but if you have the keys there not needed anymore).

to solve the problem (keys or losing) you need to have the answer.

the final answer is…………..
dependant on your perspective

since its a self causing problem that is imposible to solve unless the problem never hapened. you lost by creating the problem wich wasted your time but won with the knoleage that you aquired in the proses of thought

its dificult to explain

but if you can ask questions i can tell you the answers





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