SRL Archive - MSI Archives

This simple idea that started on May 13, 2007 of how I could contribute to the community and get people to work together has turned into a large scale operation although still holds the same essential values as when it started. MSI has changed throughout these past months and I feel the need to re-educate people on what MSI really is, and why they should get involved.

MSI’s main goal was to make scripts that would be able to train multiple skills, such as Ratz, but over time it became in include. This was not my intention although it did seem to work, I had the SvN setup to be more of a place to collect or group all of the work that people have done, not to create an include. Now I feel as though the thought of MSI being another include diverts people from contributing to it because they don’t want to have two includes, only SRL. I agree with you 100% and I know that some of you did like that idea of it being and include ,but think to yourselves, what happened in that past when there were multiple includes? What was the ultimate outcome? This thought stayed in my mind and has lead me to change MSI back into its’ original state, this being a collaboration of people ideas, scripts, talent and functions.

Now MSI’s main goal it still to create scripts that train multiple skills, although it has a more mature definition than it did in the past.

M – The only term that has lasted though the last six months, and that is Multi. My idea is that with this large of a collective intellect we can create scripts that will be able to train multiple skills without the need of a different script per skill like you'd normally find.

S – Possibly one of the most defining factors of MSI, this being that quality of the scripts. Superiority is definitely a goal of MSI, we don’t mean to overshadow other people although I think with all the people in this community we can produce scripts that easily outlast, outmaneuver, and outperform current scripts that are made by just a single person.

I – My personal favorite of the acronym MSI and also something that is very widespread throughout this community, Intelligence. I think that with all of us working together we can create a solution to any problem, even previously “unsolvable” randoms. ‘Nothing is impossible, only improbable.’ This is a quote from one of my favorite books “The Hitchhikers’ Guide to the Galaxy” and I definitely hold this statement in high regards especially within this community.

Another new aspect to MSI is the fact that we also strive to create new / unique functions as well as extremely high quality, and highly efficient versions of old functions such as FindObj. We do not mean to replace SRL, it is quit the opposite, we aim to aid SRL with a contribution of High Level functions and interesting new tools.

As my personal goal in scripting, I think that if we can create something that works, great. If we can create something that fools Jagex awesome, but if we can create something that can even fool ourselves, Incredible! I think that if we aim as high as the stars we can create the best of the best, and the most intelligent and creative functions of all.

I hope anyone and everyone who reads this will at least try to contribute to MSI, or at least keep their eyes open for upcoming events and projects. As long as you understand these words and keep your mind open to others’ ideals I know that we can accomplish the Improbable!

- Special Ed

Very well worded post. One of my favorites books is also Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. I plan on contributing to MSI in the future. However I won't participate in comps if you have them in the future, because I don't like deadlines to much :p

Thats good to here, both of your contributing and the fact that you've read Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy.

Deadlines shouldn't bother you too much I'll have a competition in the future with a 3 month deadline, k?

I still don't like them to much, I also like flying solo more than not, hopefully I can, when MSI gets really up and going (after the comp I'm assuming?) that I will be able to code my own procs and such then people can revise them. But I still don't like deadlines.

From: Bobarkinator
I still don't like them to much, I also like flying solo more than not, hopefully I can, when MSI gets really up and going (after the comp I'm assuming?) that I will be able to code my own procs and such then people can revise them. But I still don't like deadlines.

Heh, MSI won't just be Team Scripting Competitions' although thats what the majority of them will be. I will probably host some Function / Procedure Creating Competitions, as well as some highly advanced script making competitions, or some creative ideas that I have yet to release. :p

Smartzkid likes your post much

I plan on contributing to msi :)

After the comps, you're getting my findtree stuff

so MSI is basically he elite of the elites in scripters?

i dont know if im up for it… >_>

I'm loving the team scripting competition. Thanks. I hate scripting alone :). I've also been taught, and taught myself a lot in this competition. I now pwn n3ss3s in object finding ;)

But, I'm not sure I'll continue developing MSI any time soon, but that doesn't mean I won't ever start again.

From: legendaryhero90
so MSI is basically he elite of the elites in scripters?

i dont know if im up for it… >_>

People who are apart of MSI not necessarily "the elites of the elites" but I think that as a collective we are definitely the best SCAR scripter in existence. You don't need to be an awesome scripter to be apart of MSI you just need to want to work with people and help contribute to SRL. I'm sure you'll find that MSI is a lot more enjoyable and worthwhile after the competition when the projects begin. There is a lot of things to do and in a lot of different area, thats why we want to get as many people as possible together so we get the best of the best functions for each task, through peoples strengths and through collaboration or idea sharing / problem solving.

I hope you'll partake in some projects MSI has in the future I think you'll like it.

@ Bullzeye - You welcome, I hope everything is working well within you team as well, I expect an awesome script from you guys! :D

@ Smarts - Well I'm glad you're please, I don't want to disappoint the all mighty Smartzkid. :worship:

P.S. - Smartz… when did you hit 3k posts?

From: Special Ed

@ Bullzeye - You welcome, I hope everything is working well within you team as well, I expect an awesome script from you guys! :D

And you're gonna get it (h)

I now pwn n3ss3s in object finding

Okay, drinks that contain over 4.7% Alchohol will not be served to this mister :p Jk/Jk

Another new aspect to MSI is the fact that we also strive to create new / unique functions as well as extremely high quality, and highly efficient versions of old functions such as FindObj.

And thats where you 'screwd' up :p

*opens scar, starts to whip FindObj to be able to manipulate the objects*

Good post ed..

Yeah, the Hitchhiker thing is okay.

From: Special Ed
Heh, MSI won't just be Team Scripting Competitions' although thats what the majority of them will be. I will probably host some Function / Procedure Creating Competitions, as well as some highly advanced script making competitions, or some creative ideas that I have yet to release. :p

All comps :S, maybe I'll join a few, but not to many.

Function making competition with only WizzyPlugin allowed, a pretty please?

if you put limitations on a competition, you will ignore the s part in msi;), isnt it about creating the best thing, not about making a fair competition…(it would still be a scar competition obviously)

From: Special Ed
P.S. - Smartz… when did you hit 3k posts?

A while back… silently :p

Just something to think about…a competition…the biggest competition ever….has to train every skill and complete at least one quest…no set time limit. Over one month after 80% of the the groups are done. Starts after 10 groups have joined. 4-8 scripters per team (current teams could pair up). Would be legendary if it could be pulled off.

Kinda like The Prince Of Randomness's new script, doesn't train every skill, but does a lot of stuff

Indeed it would Smartz…

I'm up for contributing for MSI, but I don't like deadlines much either. I also like solo-fly more. But when we begin to make things for MSI, I could fix up everything containing DTMs…

-Knives

From: n3ss3s
Function making competition with only WizzyPlugin allowed, a pretty please?

Hey, now, what fun is that?

Meh, I'd still pwn you :f:

We'll see about that when the competition scripts are out ;)

Though I havent done like anything except umm… couple obj finders :rolleyes:

Heh, Smartz you need to quit stealing my ideas… and posting them to the public… -.-;;

But yes, I'm actually in the planning stages of a few project for MSI, as well as the next competition. I think the next competition may be just a Function Competition but its not going to be something simple its going to be a very unique idea that I don't think anyone has made before. I'm going to try and leave the normal solo - scripting competitions to StartBlaster although I think I may have some members only, because of what the objectives will be.

Also is there anything I need to add / change with the Into to MSI post? Anything that is unclear or doesn't fit in / contradicting?

P.S. - If you could change something about the current competition, what would it be and why? (Wow that sounded like a textbook question…)

i think itd be cool if there was a competition where you had to make a script using only other people's functions. The only function that would be urs is the main procedure ;)

From: dan cardin
i think itd be cool if there was a competition where you had to make a script using only other people's functions. The only function that would be urs is the main procedure ;)

That would be very unique and very weird lol.

Also I don't think a lot of people would participate because they wouldn't want to use other peoples' ideas they'd rather use either they're own or create something new.

Well at least I would, also figuring out who's procedure where who's and verifying that would be a pain.

i think itd be awesome!! because you'd have to limit yourself to procedures you could find. If it wasnt made already then u cant use it. So it would be quite hard. twould be a pain but not that hard for the people making the script to do

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
///////////by: Special Ed////////////////////////////////////////////
//////////link= [url]www.srl-forums.com/amazingfunction/////////////////////[/url]

then u would have a link to where it is. verifying it wouldnt be hard but you wouldnt even have to check. most people wouldnt try and cheat if they thought u were checking their links ;).

or if u dont want to do that then-
-a competition where you're not aloud to test it (though u would have to trust people not to cheat)
-a competition where they have to can only have a certain number a procedures(u dont have to give them specific 1s like star did)
- a competition where they cant use srl :o
- a competition where they cant do things in the script(ex:bank, or use any items, or walk…lol not walking would be like impossible…following someone so u can get to a different place :p ("dont know where fally is, can someone show me?")
- a competition where u give us some convuluted script that doesnt work and the person/team that makes it work the best,without making new procedures(adding to the existing 1s would be the general idea), would win.

edit: wow i have some weird ideas :p

Yes… you do… lol :p

Yea I've got some good ideas as well, its just the scripting with other people stuff… I don't know how well everyone would follow the rules, and I'm almost positive there would be at least half of the people who would forget or couldn't find the link, "but they knew it was there".

Either way, those are some good ideas, I'll put them into my giant collaboration of ideas file.