SRL Archive - General

Concept: NoScar

Some of you may have heard about a new bot called "JMacro". The bot was entirely made by a guy named Speedster239 (I think that's it…it's something like that anyway).

Some of the features of JMacro are:

• A Separate Mouse

You can Bot while surfing YouTube or Checking your emails. It creates a separate mouse and does what you want it to do while you do other stuff…so you don't even have to be on the same screen as RuneScape!

• Instant Scripts

Just three clicks is all it takes and you start botting. You just choose which script you want (the entire program and scripts are made in Java) and press Run!

Anyway, after hearing about that, I wished that Scar was able to do that. That is why I am posting this thread to see whether it would be able to be done and what it would require if it was possible.

If this was able to be done it would be an essential asset to the SCAR Community…

Comments/Suggestions/Criticism? - Please Post.

Thankyou.

~Lacky

This would completely kill the whole concept of our cheating methods WE CAN make a minimizable scar but we do not because it is against our principles ( www.srl-forums.com) so no I think not and this bot sounds very similar to Ibot…

I swear one is being made?

yep, mat some1 is making it but.. im not gonna tell it

btw, we dont wanna use java bots and java code. if you want to go leech somewhere on rscheata

Wow people are so close minded here.. anyway.
It does sound like a good concept, but SCAR is made to click on colors on the screen. To do what your asking, SCAR would have to be completely remade, and yes it would have to incorporate JAVA to make it minimizable. It would also have to load the client into itself and let the scripts run from there as opposed to an outside source. So no, I think it's possible, but I don't think it will be done.

thats why its scar and i know scar stays scar

if you want to bot on your main and more then use vm's or go leech on ibot or nexus

@pancakes, BenLand who is making it said that when he last spoke of it it was entirely C++/C dont remember which…

delete tha mat_de_b otherwise leecher are gonna be anoying to him

(name of you know) doesnt like if you pots that delete that pls..

From: hermpie
delete tha mat_de_b otherwise leecher are gonna be anoying to him

(name of you know) doesnt like if you pots that delete that pls..

What?

SCAR can do this too… with a plugin that is (by the almighty Benland)…

From: The_Rs_Monkey
SCAR can do this too… with a plugin that is (by the almighty Benland)…

Which hasnt made its way into SRL Member testing, has it?

From: 3garrett3
Which hasnt made its way into SRL Member testing, has it?

I think that discussion is already been made? Live with it.. if you want to "have" that plugin, you have to earn it..

-Tsn.

From: the scar noob
I think that discussion is already been made? Live with it.. if you want to "have" that plugin, you have to earn it..

-Tsn.

Benland is planning on releasing it to SRL Members(For a fact), I'm still not sure when, however.

tsn- is right you have to earn it :( i will never get it :(

It is for SSRL (Ben's plugin)

i thought ben didnt liked we posted that it existed and say his name :(

no but talking about "them" is still off limits right :p

I can tell you ben is always working on something so I wouldn't doubt it.

releasing to srl members only if he don't care if it to get leaked.

I'm all for minimizing, but I don't think Java is the way to do it. Its mostly the attitude towards it, but I'm sure its still fairly slow because of the JVM having to interpret the instructions…

I bet anyone who knows C++ and how to use Google could do it. I bet its something simple like this: Get a HBITMAP from the HDC, Search for colors on the HBITMAP, return the coords and push them strait to the BIOS (or whatever handles clicks).

I bet you ben can do it with java :p
remember he is amazing!

I don't think he would release to public though.

Thats the point: people need to learn to do things themselves.

From: R0b0t1
I'm all for minimizing, but I don't think Java is the way to do it. Its mostly the attitude towards it, but I'm sure its still fairly slow because of the JVM having to interpret the instructions…

I bet anyone who knows C++ and how to use Google could do it. I bet its something simple like this: Get a HBITMAP from the HDC, Search for colors on the HBITMAP, return the coords and push them strait to the BIOS (or whatever handles clicks).

were it so easy r0b0t the great…

funny thing about ben is… he can't keep anything private :p.

so you guys may get lucky one day.

From: Dark_Sniper
funny thing about ben is… he can't keep anything private :p.

So true xD

I think people should stop making threads about this crap. It's already been discussed before, use the stupid search button.

Oh…and please, before you ask for any more from the community in terms of SCAR/SRL…at least become an SRL Member/Developer.

I think they can ask anything they want as long as one person is willing to answer :p

SCAR will not change. It is a colour-clicker, and will stay a colour-clicker. That fact in itself is what makes SCAR more useful than the other bots, because it can work with other programs. You try getting iBot to work with anything else. Good luck.

Although, if you notice with SCAR that if you minimize runescape after using the crosshair, the mouse coordinates go crazy, with like -10000,-10000 (which means the runescape client moved to the bottom right) So, if you were to be able to get the image from there (provided the client still actively draws it) then you could probably get colours from it. It's still a bit of a tradeoff though, since you can't possibly use a mouse or keyboard with it. That's as far as I went when i thought about it.

Yeah, but then you could incorporate a silent mouse and such.. again, I say it is plausible, but won't happen, at least for now.

I say it's completely plausible.

I'm sure Ben has something like this, and it will eventually find its way to members, then, shortly after, nonmembers.

I'm also sure that he wouldn't release a buggy product, so when I get it, it'd better be perfect! :p

:spongebob:

ben is amazing and i would not hold it against him not to make/have made something like this.


and like said he is one of those guys who can't keep a secret.

From: Dark_Sniper
I think they can ask anything they want as long as one person is willing to answer :p

So…what's the point of the search button?

This thread has gone a lot offtopic. Basically that would ruin scripting. The minimizing might happen and the silent mouse might happen. We know it might be in developement, but some of us havn't seen it yet. Does that answer your questions?

yes but as it seems this post is still open for discussions :p

and santy the search button as it seems is very advance and no one knows how to us it except the uber elite.


should make a tut on that :p put it in the advanced sections :p:f:

Theres tons of bots out there.
We use scar because its not very detectable, open source, user friendly, still in development ect ect.
You can use scar along with a VM to minimize it if you want. And like Rs-Monkey said, there is a plug in made that allows scar to minimize and have its own mouse, its still in testing mode right now, but it is possible with scar.
And its not new news that people want scar to minized :p, everyones always wanted it, and its now possible thanks to benland.
Just be a good boy and wait a while and you might be able to get it.
And please keep talk here at SRL about scar, tons of people know about all of the other bots around, and its great that they exist, but at SRL we just focus on scar.

From: YoHoJo
Theres tons of bots out there.
We use scar because open source

SRL is open source ;)

From: Dark_Sniper
yes but as it seems this post is still open for discussions :p

and santy the search button as it seems is very advance and no one knows how to us it except the uber elite.


should make a tut on that :p put it in the advanced sections :p:f:

I did use the search. Didn't find much. (Everyone always says use the search no matter what the topic even if there isnt already one…)

From: YoHoJo
Theres tons of bots out there.
We use scar because its not very detectable, open source, user friendly, still in development ect ect.
You can use scar along with a VM to minimize it if you want. And like Rs-Monkey said, there is a plug in made that allows scar to minimize and have its own mouse, its still in testing mode right now, but it is possible with scar.
And its not new news that people want scar to minized :p, everyones always wanted it, and its now possible thanks to benland.
Just be a good boy and wait a while and you might be able to get it.
And please keep talk here at SRL about scar, tons of people know about all of the other bots around, and its great that they exist, but at SRL we just focus on scar.

Alright, I see where you are coming from.

I was talking about scar, I just made one reference to a bot is all, so that you could understand what I was saying/asking.

Benland FTW!

SCAR isn't open source, SRL is.

I agree that this would be a cool idea, but I would personally rather see what the bot is doing. Even if you can see what code is there, it is possible to hide code in scar. I can show you how to do it later, but that's off topic. If you have runescape and scar running as open windows, and it starts going off track, you can easily stop scar and put it back on track, then restart it. It's harder when both runescape and scar are minimized.

As for the hiding code:
I have posted an example of a script that has hidden elements in it (don't worry, it only writes lines).
All you have to do is move the code past the end of the line (this code can be seen in other programs like notepad, but not in SCAR

yes on the minimizing of scar.

no on the separate mouse (didnt we already discuss that???)

no on the java code.

no (AND I MEAN NO) on the idea of instant scripts. *make your own leechers* :p

From: pwnaz0r
were it so easy r0b0t the great…

Do you know how to do it? I was guessing.

int main()
{
  Noob^ TehNoob = gcnew NoobServiceProvider;

  TehNoob->Bitchslap( hard );
  return 0;
}

//Ouput:
//LOL!

P.S.: I wonder if that plugin will be open…

@R0b0t1: Nice…

@Legendaryhero: Explain your reason why/why not please?

SCAR stands for Sh*te Compared to AutoRune. If they make a minimizing feature, then it wouldn't really be "Sh*te" now would it? xD.

Names don't mean a thing. I mean, they call Sythe cool, but jsut look at the results!

From: R0b0t1
I'm all for minimizing, but I don't think Java is the way to do it. Its mostly the attitude towards it, but I'm sure its still fairly slow because of the JVM having to interpret the instructions…

I bet anyone who knows C++ and how to use Google could do it. I bet its something simple like this: Get a HBITMAP from the HDC, Search for colors on the HBITMAP, return the coords and push them strait to the BIOS (or whatever handles clicks).

You can't just get an HBITMAP from a minimized window DC, when a window is not visible and especially when minimized, nothing is drawn to it's DC and even if you'd manage to force it to draw there'd still be more than enough other complications, also keep in mind that for minimized macroing you need to be able to trigger undetectable fake mouse movement events and keyboard actions…

its especially hard because the rs client draws directly into the video buffer…

back to jmacro i dont like it becsuse its retarted to script in it

I was guessing, but thanks for popping my bubble also :).


I think people thought it could only (easily) be done in Java was because it had a way to push events strait to the even queue, correct? You can probably do it with C++ in a much more obscure way.

So, anyway, Is it top-uber-awesome-Chuck-Norris-Style secret on how to do it with C?