SRL Archive - Senior News and General

Updated June 27th, 2011:

From: nielsie95
Post / Thread Permissions
Can Open / Close Own Threads

Who's Online Permissions
Can View Who's Online
Can View Detailed Location Info for Users
Can View Detailed Location Info of Users Who Visit Bad / No Permission Locations

General Permissions
Show edited by note on edited messages

User Infraction Permissions
Can Give Infractions to Others
Can See Others' Infraction Level

We upgraded the priviledges for SSRL Members. SSRL Members now have the ability to:

• Close Threads.
• Reopen Threads.
• View IP Adresses.
• View Detailed Location Info.
• See Ediited note by.
• Can give Infraction.
• Can see infraction level.

Now listen up.

With these priviledges comes the responsibility to handle them. These priviledges need to be treated with respect, objectivity and maturity. So dont go closing threads like crazy or handing infraction out by the dozen.
We are generally very happy with the way things go at SRL these days. There is a lot of spam, true, so that can be filtered out more efficiently with you nurturing our newbies in the same spirit as we do. But on the other hand, we created the conditions, so you cant really blame them for postrising.
We (Dank and I) agreed to give this a trial period, which will be evaluated and possibly reversed.
But I am a positive man. I am sure this will be a splendid addition to SRL forums. You are all ok people, I value your judgement, you know how to handle an argument, and I think you are all doing a great job for this forums.

BUT: Handle with care!

AWESOME. Thanks Fakawi. Question, how can SSRL be secret if we go around closing and opening threads, etc.

Are these only privileges or is it our responsibility to moniter the other forums and give infractions where it's needed?

From: pwnaz0r
Question, how can SSRL be secret if we go around closing and opening threads, etc.

To my believe it has been know for a long time amongst members and non members that certain hidden groups exist. In case of SSRL, there has been the issue of the large Avatar. It has been mentioned also a couple of times at member board. In case of Developers, its clear there is a hidden level.

I dont think this will lead to problems, but as usual:

Let the discussion begin.

From: Town
Are these only privileges or is it our responsibility to moniter the other forums and give infractions where it's needed?

No obligation whatsoever. You are free to do as you please, as long as the boards modifications are objective, moral, and mature. This is not an order, its a call to reason.

Once again, I like the forums the way they are now, but this will ensure more flexibility, and give RAM some downtime too :)

Thanks Fawki, and Dankness; I'm sure we'll be able to handle the responsibility quite well.

Question: Difference between the up arrow and the down arrow? I assume one gives an infraction and one takes one away, but they each have the same tooltip.

bah .. I already know I will not be using this :p


maybe veiw ip :)

LOL

btw how do we view ip / and or detailed location info?

Ya I was wondering the same thing :p…

too bad i was going to give fawk an infraction but i cant :p


owell :p


And i bet RAM would love to relax when he knows Im out there finding spam :p

right XD….


TBH Im afraid of using the powers cause they would for sure come around and bite me in the ass cause I did somthing wrong!

Well, I have turned into an Anal Retentive Spam Nazi….

Just try to keep in mind, most of the spammers are just young kids…As I mentioned before..I usually wait until they made their 10 SPAm posts, then just merge them all together, post a link to my "Attention Spammers and Leechers " thread..then either infarct them, or if I'm in a good mood, just give them a warning…..this is only for the people that I see making 10 BACK to BACK posts…..Occasionally you will see a "COOL" or "I'll be sure to try this script"…I usually just give them a warning…and tell them, if they are going to take the time to post, make it worth while for everyone to read…..Be warned….try to be as tactful as possible…..I have made several enemies since becoming mod….people sending me hate mail…wanting to argue over the validity of infractions..and even trying to send me viruses (FuzzBall Saga)…I just take it all with a grain of salt, and try to think for the better of the community…I rub my W.W.F.D. bracelet and ask the master for guidance :rolleyes:…..





I think you guys should see all these buttons now….

Blue check for giving rep….
Red X for reporting a post…
IP for checking IP..
Infraction buttons……

As far as I know, these buttons are linked together, and both of them serve the same purpose…though I think the yellow one is meant to be for warnings (No Points), and the red for infractions….Rumor says 3 infractions = Ban, but I'm not sure on this either…

Clicking on the IP button will take you to another page…it will show you users that have shared the same address recently…good for checking SRL Member applicants…

Darky, and Everyone else, I'm sure you'll all do fine, don't feel obligated, but you are all some of the most intelligent and thoughtful people here on the forums, and that is why you were given these additional powers…and I'm sure you guys can make an positive impact on someones life, and hopefully set them on the right track, to be a good scripter, or just a better contributor to the community…

and yes, I will enjoy the down time …. I actually started writing another script tonight, so it was nice to know this place is in good hands now :)

~RAM

EDIT: Looking at Smartz Post, maybe you weren't given IP Privillages yet….

From: pwnaz0r
AWESOME. Thanks Fakawi. Question, how can SSRL be secret if we go around closing and opening threads, etc.

Only issue I see people asking: "how did XX get into SSRL?", "XX got into SSRL, why can't I?", "gimme SSRL scripts pl0x?". Or maybe I'm just paranoid.

I can see that problem as well..
so is there any procedure at all on how this is going to work?

Well can people see who closed the threads? Or are you just talking about if someone says "Thread Closed" as they close it, and it appears to the public that they are just an SRL Member?

I don't think that will be a problem, I don't think anyone, other than SSRL Members, know that I've become one yet so I think I'm still incognito.

Erm, what about SRL Devs? We've less power than the average leecher :p

From: Freddy1990
Erm, what about SRL Devs? We've less power than the average leecher :p

Haha, I knew you'd say that. Well…… you are Developers!

From: Special Ed
Well can people see who closed the threads? Or are you just talking about if someone says "Thread Closed" as they close it, and it appears to the public that they are just an SRL Member?

I don't think that will be a problem, I don't think anyone, other than SSRL Members, know that I've become one yet so I think I'm still incognito.

Yes, I think that'd be best. Just close the thread without saying anything.

@Freddy: We Devs could close threads before this, but I can't see the option now anymore.

Back when I made the SSRL section, I made it viewable to SSRL and Devs (and admins and mods). I should have just made devs SSRL.

sweet, should be good to help get rid of spam :p how do we close threads? i cant see a button or anything

From: WT-Fakawi

• Close Threads.
• Reopen Threads.
• View IP Adresses.
• View Detailed Location Info.

Hmm, can't see those buttons

From: WT-Fakawi

• See Ediited note by.
• Can give Infraction.
• Can see infraction level.

I can only see the give infraction, I can't find a button like "View infraction level".

From: WT-Fakawi

With these priviledges comes the responsibility to handle them. These priviledges need to be treated with respect, objectivity and maturity. So dont go closing threads like crazy or handing infraction out by the dozen.

Ok, but when can I give someone an infraction or close a thread? For some simple spam post/thread or do they need to flame like hell?

And could someone please write a tut like "Moderating for n00bs"? I don't want to test stuff and that it goes wrong, it's a bit too risky for that. I don't want to get kicked out for accidentally abusing those powers :redface:

edit: Can people see who gave the infraction?

From: The Claw
sweet, should be good to help get rid of spam :p how do we close threads? i cant see a button or anything

From: Freddy1990
Erm, what about SRL Devs? We've less power than the average leecher :p

;)

The idea for SSRL was clear IMHO: They are all active members, whereas 85% of SRL-developers are inactive. Developers already have IP/infraction capabilities, if any of you Devs need closing/moving/opening powers…sure just yell!

BTW: I took the time to set most user options under "View Forum Leaders" to their proper class.

From: nielsie95
;)

I'm SSRL too though :p

From: WT-Fakawi
The idea for SSRL was clear IMHO: They are all active members, whereas 85% of SRL-developers are inactive. Developers already have IP/infraction capabilities, if any of you Devs need closing/moving/opening powers…sure just yell!

BTW: I took the time to set most user options under "View Forum Leaders" to their proper class.

Do we? First I noticed was when you made this post and I could see the infraction buttons. How do we see IPs? And sure it would be cool to have those powers :p But not 100% neccessary I would think. Editing topic titles though, that would be handy to have

From: c0de
This is nothing but spam!, thread closed. Fawki I gave you an infraction for this. Don't spam in future!

You cant. I am invincible :sasmokin:

its true i already tried to give him an infraction :p

The Claw, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

When trying to give Fakawi an infraction :p

From: WT-Fakawi
Developers already have IP/infraction capabilities, if any of you Devs need closing/moving/opening powers…sure just yell!

Yell! :redface:

How can I give infractions then (I can't see a button)?
/excuse if this was a stupid question.

From: nielsie95
Yes, I think that'd be best. Just close the thread without saying anything.

Well for me lately I've been doing what does used to do and did ~Pseudo locked~. Then i jsut reported my post and usually a mod/admin came in behind me an locked it. Generally it was RAM or Wizzup and they usually posted something after me before locking. But sometimes it just gets locked with no post after mine. So I think I'll keep doing that so it seems everything is normal, and maybe if your about to lock just go something like "Lock plz?" then lock it so it seems like you asked for it to be locked.

Just and idea


EDIT: OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG I'M A MOD TOO!!! :D

Why is it that I need to go away during the good bits?

Anyway, just a thought, but with this update to SSRL status, people will find out that certain "SRL Members" can close threads, that's all fine and dandy but if someone has the potential to attempt a scam, they will. I've been here for a long time, however due to me not playing runescape as much as I would like to, I'm not so active, and suddenly I get some powers of moderation on forums I visit maybe one every few days? Give it a few weeks and some wiseguy would probably be able to scam a newb for his password or something. My proposal is SSRL members goes public with a full explanation(it's not like we can't stop the mass requests for it now ;)), or a list of all the SSRL members are posted trial editions to the moderator team.

c0de nice try but Dank and Fawk are not in the database. They ARE the database.

From: WT-Fakawi
The idea for SSRL was clear IMHO: They are all active members, whereas 85% of SRL-developers are inactive. Developers already have IP/infraction capabilities, if any of you Devs need closing/moving/opening powers…sure just yell!

BTW: I took the time to set most user options under "View Forum Leaders" to their proper class.

Those other 15% might disagree :) So in the case an ssrl member becomes srl dev (s)he loses all ssrl powers… Kind of a bad deal if you ask me :p

From: Freddy1990
Those other 15% might disagree :) So in the case an ssrl member becomes srl dev (s)he loses all ssrl powers… Kind of a bad deal if you ask me :p

Gimme your powers! ^^

Well What about a SDev Group? It would still show "Developer" as their title like with SSRL Member and "SRL Member" but they SDevelopers would have the same privileges as a SSRL Member (or more…) but they still had access to all the developers stuff.

In my opinion this would solve all the problems as far as powers goes…

P.S. How do you lock threads, or haven't our permissions been updated to that yet?

It's just a checkbox I or an other admin has to check so developers have these permissions too, just PM me and I will add it.

I cant view IPs :(

But thanks anyway! :D

ya owell … I can't ether.

Uh I dont think we can open or close threads ethier anymore…

it used to be under thread tools but now its not.

yes we lost that power :p
no matter less work for me :p

but i liked the power :p

I can still do it ;)

Yeah you dumb ol' mod :p

And btw. I accedently gave someone an infraction when i had meant to give the guy ABOVE him an infraction…i think the guys name was Dump1n or something…so if anyone wants to fix this, because I cant.

I'll see if i can fix it. I'm still trying to figure out how to do all this…

From: Ruroken
Yeah you dumb ol' mod :p

And btw. I accedently gave someone an infraction when i had meant to give the guy ABOVE him an infraction…i think the guys name was Dump1n or something…so if anyone wants to fix this, because I cant.

exactly why we dont have power :p

maybe a good thing XD.

this is exactly why i dont want the power :p i would make a dumb mistake like this…

Lol

I couldn't find a way to remove the warning so I Pm'd dumpin and explained what happened.

Thanks. :)

Oh well…now I wont make the mistake twice ;)

Dark noticed something that could pose as a problem. When you give an infraction it shows the name of the person who gave it on their profile. So if someone looked and saw and was like "Hey they aren't a mod/admin!" it might raise some questions. Is there anyway to take out the name of who gave it if they arent a mod. So it'd just be like anonymus(sp?)

if anyone asks we are undercover temp mods to give ram a break.

AWSOME!

Im undercover :D

So are we going to be re-appointed with the power to lock / unlock threads, or have you (the Admins) decided against your original decision? I'm just trying to clear this up.

Apps are still mine!
ALL MINE! =)!

no way they belong to me?

Dark in your world… everything belongs to you :p

I wish :p

but then again that would be boring… no point in life… i would become evil at that point.

I figured out how we view ips guys :D

OMG HOWZORZ.

//runs off to look through all his options.

toolbar at top –> quick links –> who is online

Will pop up and have ip's next to it.

cool :)

Now to get locking / unlocking :p

From: Ruroken
cool :)

Now to get locking / unlocking :p

Hack Fakawi's account!

Or just do what I've been doing for the past 4(?) months..

~Pseudo Locked~

Then just report your last post and a mod comes and locks it.

From: mastaraymond
Hack Fakawi's account!

I am still invincible :) (I cant even mod my own account, thats how invincible I am…)

From: c0de
That made me laugh so hard… Btw, I can't lock topics? :o

Maybe because you are a communist? You'd probably lock every single revolting topic. :)

Oh noes!

SRL's own Red Revolution :p

From: Wizzup?
Maybe because you are a communist? You'd probably lock every single revolting topic. :)

I cant lock topics :(, besides what would i do :p

i think all Devs are "Mature" and "professional" enough for that opportunity.

From: SKy Scripter
I cant lock topics :(, besides what would i do :p

i think all Devs are "Mature" and "professional" enough for that opportunity.

I think all SSRL members are too…

From: Ruroken
I think all SSRL members are too…

well yea, but i dont know if i could agree with all SSRL members…

From: SKy Scripter
well yea, but i dont know if i could agree with all SSRL members…

Please describe your affiliation with that comment ? :stirthepot:

hmm, that, kinda nice of you to give us all this power fawki". don't take mine away just because in not active any More, lot. Anghows, my keyboards broken so I am writing this afloat with a ghetto pen thing… But anghows… let me give you ate update here Since Idenf really feel like making multiple Posts. School is kicking mg ass. E amt-ailing 30.6 m, four crassest think Iam going to drop . AEM… Once shoot is oat I will try to drop by here more and do something protUCT(VE… Not to mention that really don't feel like reading is thousand posts… lot.

From: RAM
Please describe your affiliation with that comment ? :stirthepot:

I dont want to hurt anyones feelings :p
but its more then one person… its not like i dislike them or anything cause there is nobody here on SRL i hate or dislike.
its just i think there mature level is at a low scale, well, for this kind of opportunity.

From: SKy Scripter
I dont want to hurt anyones feelings :p
but its more then one person… its not like i dislike them or anything cause there is nobody here on SRL i hate or dislike.
its just i think there mature level is at a low scale, well, for this kind of opportunity.

You've hurt me!

***** says:
I think he can. I have always wonderd this tho: some members can infract, but they dont have Mod cup.. how is this?
(so)Chris(so) says:
Hmmm I'm not sure :S
Maybe mistake with permissons.
I'll bring it up

I never noticed.

****** says:
An admin did it for a reason

It's already been noticed…

But when will he start wondering what the reason is…

Is there any way to make the infractions on someones account only viewable to SSRL, Mods and Admins?

From: WT-Fakawi
The idea for SSRL was clear IMHO: They are all active members, whereas 85% of SRL-developers are inactive. Developers already have IP/infraction capabilities, if any of you Devs need closing/moving/opening powers…sure just yell!

BTW: I took the time to set most user options under "View Forum Leaders" to their proper class.

I don't have IP/infraction capabilities..

There must be some kind of hidden level between Developer and Administrator with extra privileges, like SSRL. :p

Is it possible that these forums could contain yet another hidden level? :rolleyes:

K this is wierd,
I though Dev's who weren't SSRL could view these forums… :confused:

Edit: forget that ^^ i misread part of the thread the first time through.

But back on topic, what should we do about this, just kinda sidestep the queations?

Just say that they/we're undercover mods, to lighten RAM a bit.

The powers' gone?

The opening and closing threads is.

SSRL can still give infractions

I can't seem to do that

I can give infractions, and close my own threads. Maybe an error with your permissions?

From: Markus
I can give infractions, and close my own threads. Maybe an error with your permissions?

Some of my threads I can move, some I can lock, and the rest I can't do anything with.
Benleegt you should be able to add infractions using the up/down arrows next to the Rep+ and Report post buttons.

I think I see the problem.

Since his "Main user group" is set to Developers, he can see this forum. But SSRL isn't selected in his profile so he isn't getting the powers from it.

So yes it's issue with permissions
Admin will need to fix

I didn't read through the whole thread, so my question may have been answered already. Sorry if this makes me a noob :p

How can we lock/unlock topics? I don't see any button. I didn't see that we had this power before :p

You don't anymore

From: Hobbit
You don't anymore

Oh ok.

Did somebody abuse the power before or something?

From: pwnaz0r
AWESOME. Thanks Fakawi. Question, how can SSRL be secret if we go around closing and opening threads, etc.

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From: Hobbit
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Ah, ok, I gotcha :)

Not to try to get rid of these powers, but how can SSRL be secret if we can go around giving infractions? :p

It hasn't clicked in with anyone so far.
I thought it would for sure… :confused:

From: Hobbit
It hasn't clicked in with anyone so far.
I thought it would for sure… :confused:

Lol, me too.

But the difference between closing threads and giving infractions is that people can't see who closed the threads. So we could do 1 of 2 things if we were to be given these powers

Have a code for each time we lock a thread. Post like "can a mod close this?" then close it.

Or we could simply just close the thread without saying anything. :)

I think it would be good if we could at least close threads in the appliance section. Of course it's not up to me, but IMO it would save a lot of people from getting flamed/possibly some people from getting in trouble for flaming.

Wait…opening and closing, there's no names given (assuming nobody goes around 'Closed!', etc). Infracting, it tells the infracted who infracted them.

Thus wouldn't it be better for us to be able to open and close and not infract?

EDIT: Ehh, that's what JAD just said, isn't it… w/e :p

From: Smartzkid
Wait…opening and closing, there's no names given (assuming nobody goes around 'Closed!', etc). Infracting, it tells the infracted who infracted them.

Thus wouldn't it be better for us to be able to open and close and not infract?

EDIT: Ehh, that's what JAD just said, isn't it… w/e :p

Exactly! It's like you read my mind… :p

Thats what I thought when I first read this thread. Newly registered users wouldn't really know the difference, but SRL members could definitely find out.

I know this is a gravedig (not really but owell)

Can the first post be updated? This is a sticky and all…

I can update it if I know exactly what's different.

From: Coh3n
I can update it if I know exactly what's different.

I know we can't do these -

Close Threads.
Reopen Threads.

I don't know about these -

View Detailed Location Info.
See Ediited note by.

I know we can do these -

Can give Infraction.
Can see infraction level.

I'll get confirmation, then update the first post. :)

Closed threads/reopen threads would be nice sometimes for the Spambot threads and Gravedigs that become spamfest.

~BraK

From: BraK
Closed threads/reopen threads would be nice sometimes for the Spambot threads and Gravedigs that become spamfest.

~BraK

That's what I was just saying on IRC =P

Edit: It was more like 2 hours ago >..>

From: Dgby714
That's what I was just saying on IRC =P

Edit: It was more like 2 hours ago >..>

[OFFTOPIC]:p I'm at work not on IRC. I might get online tonight. [/OFFTOPIC]

What was the answer? :)

~BraK

From: BraK
[OFFTOPIC]:p I'm at work not on IRC. I might get online tonight. [/OFFTOPIC]

What was the answer? :)

~BraK

idk, I was talking with another SSRL about it, Wizzup had just went to take a nap not a min before we started talking about it.

Tho reading thru this thread, we lost it to keep SSRL secret but SSRL is public now, so will we get it back?

Also the ip stuff I think we lost in the SRL-forum -> Villavu change?

The IP stuff wasn't necessary and yes, it was taken away and our powers to do so was actually quite useless. We couldn't look up, it was only we had access to a big table.

The close and reopen threads, we can still do :D. Try doing it for one of your OWN threads ;). Bet you can still! I may be wrong here, but you could not do it for others before and can not now. :)

Hmmmm I thought I could always closed my own thread. I might have never really tried until recently.

~BraK

If we all would have powers to close any thread and move and so on. What would be use of section mods :P


~Home

Post / Thread Permissions
Can Open / Close Own Threads

Who's Online Permissions
Can View Who's Online
Can View Detailed Location Info for Users
Can View Detailed Location Info of Users Who Visit Bad / No Permission Locations

General Permissions
Show edited by note on edited messages

User Infraction Permissions
Can Give Infractions to Others
Can See Others' Infraction Level

The "IP stuff" is viewable through "who's online". About thread closing; I don't think that's necessary. If you'd close spambots' threads, we'd still have to delete them ;)

lol @

Google AdSense Spider
Viewing 'No Permission' Message Viewing Thread
More Priviledges for SSRL Members.

66.249.72.74

From: Home
If we all would have powers to close any thread and move and so on. What would be use of section mods :P


~Home

How are section mods relevant :S If this goes through then ssrl will be mods.

From: lordsaturn
How are section mods relevant :S If this goes through then ssrl will be mods.

Troll, what are you on about?

From: nielsie95
Post / Thread Permissions
Can Open / Close Own Threads

Who's Online Permissions
Can View Who's Online
Can View Detailed Location Info for Users
Can View Detailed Location Info of Users Who Visit Bad / No Permission Locations

General Permissions
Show edited by note on edited messages

User Infraction Permissions
Can Give Infractions to Others
Can See Others' Infraction Level

Updated first post.