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I would like a mod or admin to delete or remove my account from srl forums. I no longer wish to participate here.

Adios to all those I have met over the last little bit.

I don't agree with your reasons for quiting. But Adios.

i dont know why you leave. but adios. make the best of it ;)

Could you at least give Fakawi a message explaining to him why you are leaving? I know how much he respects you, and I respect you just as much. I would like you to post your reasonings please. Although not all may agree, what you thionk we should work on would be greatly appreciated information.

I know mine, nor other posts will change your mind for now. You are a grown man, and have matured and experienced more than the majority here. Have fun in other communities, but if you choose to come back, we will be here with open arms.

He's given a pretty succinct reason over at KYAB forums, and I dont think he will be able to see this thread anymore, it seems that he is no longer an SRL member

From: The Claw
He's given a pretty succinct reason over at KYAB forums, and I dont think he will be able to see this thread anymore, it seems that he is no longer an SRL member

:( man…

Downward spiral, he used to be a developer.

Wizzup, didnt ur mom tell u not to lie?

What the? I'm going to KYAB to see.

Santy are you member there? I dont remember seeing u…?

And anyways, the reason possibly isnt so "visible", maybe because of all the drama and shit recently there..

EDIT: o, yes u are.

I read about it. I'm sick of seeing Ronny's posts…the little idiot.

From: n3ss3s
Wizzup, didnt ur mom tell u not to lie?

He was a developer.

So why was he demoted to an SRL Member? And just wondering…how can a non-scripter be a developer?

From: SantaClause
So why was he demoted to an SRL Member? And just wondering…how can a non-scripter be a developer?

He was a developer when SRL first started, after a long time of being non active, he got de-dev'ed, I don't think he had a problem with that.

Cya man, Does anyone know exactly why he is leaving like this?

=/ I havent seen any scripts from him, nor any snippets..

He is open about the fact that he doesnt script, if you read through his posts at KYAB you will see

Read much?

what ya mean?

From: justkidding
I would like a mod or admin to delete or remove my account from srl forums. I no longer wish to participate here.

Adios to all those I have met over the last little bit.

???

I dont understand? What happened? BTW: We dont just modify accounts here. There is no reason you should be Demembered. Thats just ridiculous. I will make you Member again.

And yes, please explain, if you feel like it. I haven't got a clue what I (or we) have done wrong.

Maybe he wants to prevent himself from visiting SRL anymore, he thinks it is a waste of his time maybe..

Fawk I demembered when he said he wanted to leave and didn't script.

From: Boreas
Fawk I demembered when he said he wanted to leave and didn't script.

Thats ok, but I do not see a reason for a punishment. If you dont want to be here anymore, fine, but your account will just go to sleep :)

yes and tell us why you leave plz, it would help us understanding and maybe we can solve the problem if there is one…
Btw, i thought it was n3ss3s (i'm not sure anymore), there is even an SRL Dev with like 4 postcount or so…..
If the SRL Development team makes somebody a Dev, they know what they're doing, they know what his/her ablilities are,

Thanks.

Can somebody quote his post on kyab?

I'll see if I can find the post later but he thinks that SRL is in a downward spiral and he's getting out before it hit's rock bottom.

Why would srl be on a downward spiral?

From: Buckleyindahouse
Why would srl be on a downward spiral?

I don't know

From: bobarkinator
I don't know

Must be a reason since you "said or suggested" it could be one of the possible reasons. Know something I don't know?

Here is the post where he talks about SRL crashing:

From: JustKidding
Theres alot of things I love about srl forums. There is also alot of things I hate and theres alot of things getting worse. Mainly arrogance. It no longer feels like a community. It feels like a place where people downplay others to raise themselves. They also thrash the creativity of others and supress advancements because they feel others are not responisble enough to not abuse a cheat they are secretly using behind the scenes. Srl forums are no longer what they used to be and I am leaving before it crashes. Claw or anyone else if you want me to continue to test your scripts for flaws just pm me them here. Im not gonna go back.

Theres too much of this community withing a community at srl here lately and this hidden bullshit they keep poking out from behind the scenes hinting at all sorts of stuff. I dont script and never will but I do what I can to help a community. And flame me all you want if you like I could care less of anyones personal opinion. Ive got plenty and I am sure you do. Status and arrogance mean nothing to me.
Ok enough of this.

Never knew you, never seen your scripts. Bye bye, have fun, etc etc.

He does have some points in his lil story.

From: Buckleyindahouse
He does have some points in his lil story.

Agreed. But I think some of it is also blown up a little bit.

I took the liberty of digging up the first Forum of mine, call it SRL 0.01 , just for old times sake. These where the remains of the once so proud Kaitnieks community I managed to pull out of the shattered cheating community. You dont want to know how much energy it took me to contact these guys. See number 17? With them we started all anew and created a backbone of today's cheating community.

Call me an old fool, but I dont get it :(

Man, the good old times, eh guys?

Yeah i remember just kidding being one of the coolest. There is more behind the scenes. You kinda have to talk to everyone in the know to piece it all together. Just kidding was one of those guys that tested soooooooo many scripts. He was the man for progress reports and actual good improvement suggestions. Sad really.

~I know the pieces fit, but i watched them fall away…

Wow that's depressing, I had no idea he had been around so long.

Anyways JustKidding will come back to read the rest of this thread? I don't remember who told me, but I think the admins are fixing to prune some users and create a system to keep leeching to a minimum.

I don't know exactly why but I too feel this community is slowly deteriorating.

Its too often you hear about secret parts of the community that no one ever knew existed, or some secret dev only project.

The discussion in the "Members Section" is lacking lately too…

From: WT-Fakawi
I took the liberty of digging up the first Forum of mine, call it SRL 0.01 , just for old times sake. These where the remains of the once so proud Kaitnieks community I managed to pull out of the shattered cheating community. You dont want to know how much energy it took me to contact these guys. See number 17? With them we started all anew and created a backbone of today's cheating community.

Call me an old fool, but I dont get it :(

All the devs… It is kinda sad how something can get toppled. I know this won't strike home as much with me as it does with you guys but you were their and when Kaitneiks went down I can imagine how you guys might have felt. The way people talk about it I feel this site is only a remnant(definitely not to say it's bad) of what Kaitneiks was. It puts things into perspective of how you can actually get attached to things on the internet. If this site went down I wouldn't be as sad as losing a Runescape cheat as losing so many friends.


Edit: Even though that technically isn't Kaitneiks' site I think you get my point.

^^ agreed not to sound like a nerd but this place is like family to me and i feel it is slowly getting worse with these conflicts happening and some immature people. I wasn't around at the time of kaitneiks, so why did that happen.

From: jhildy
I wasn't around at the time of kaitneiks, so why did that happen.

Kaits close? People move on with there lives. We cant always be fiddling with runescape all the time. MOST people on here are students at university , college or high school. So most of us have time. I generally dont come on as much as i have university to deal with. But highschool students it is easy. Anyways doesnt apply to just kidding for obvious reasons :p back on topic…

Erm…Fawki…I think re-memberising Justkidding might make him think that you order him around too much…

From: SantaClause
Erm…Fawki…I think re-memberising Justkidding might make him think that you order him around too much…

He's not a 10 year old kid, dw

From: SantaClause
Erm…Fawki…I think re-memberising Justkidding might make him think that you order him around too much…

He is a member..

Im pretty sure JustKidding's status shows Community Member to me?

Ill check…

From: n3ss3s
Im pretty sure JustKidding's status shows Community Member to me?

Ill check…

So master of editing, you don't have to say he's a member eh? :p
However, I must agree with bobarkinator and others, i'm part of this community since last year october, so it's rather long (almost a year), and i also love this community, it's a great feeling, something like coming home or so, maybe it does sounds crazy but that's how i feel.
And i must agree i also see how the community is going bad, all those secrets etc it makes some people feel bad about the "group" if you get what i mean :(

From: the scar noob
So master of editing, you don't have to say he's a member eh? :p
However, I must agree with bobarkinator and others, i'm part of this community since last year october, so it's rather long (almost a year), and i also love this community, it's a great feeling, something like coming home or so, maybe it does sounds crazy but that's how i feel.
And i must agree i also see how the community is going bad, all those secrets etc it makes some people feel bad about the "group" if you get what i mean :(

But guys….Every forum on the net has its hierarchy. There are always hidden forums and secret alliances. I mean, you all know there is an "inside SRL…" forum for devs only, but nobody takes offence to that. Then there is ofcourse the Moderators forum, where we discuss users & ranks etc..Then we have the admin forum also. The list goes on and on and on. This is valid for EVERY large forum on the net. If a forum lacks these structures, they quickly perish.

So whats the problem? Yes we have a "secret" (woohoo) SSRL member board, and Ben has kindly donated his minimizable RS-client, but this is still under heavily development and is faaar from either finished nor solid, so there isn't any point in distributing this to the mass for it is not a workable solution yet.

However, I understand Justkidding's point of view. He has been here from day one, and I kinda forgot about him, but then again he has been away for several months, like many of you do. No need for examples I hope. I should have been more keen on keeping him aboard, but on the other hand, he is mature and things can always be discussed with me in a normal fashion, right? Besides, allthough I am one of the Gods around here, I have to share my position with other admins, so I try not to act on my own responisibility (usually) , but ask and poll first on the appropriate forums. If things have been unclear I apologize for that, but 30.000 registrees is quite a burden on my shoulders if you know what mean. Sometimes things slip through. I too have a job and a family to run you know, and we (admins, devs and moderators) are all doing this for nothing, and ask nothing in return.

Once again….. all boards have hidden layers! No big deal. Work your way up I propose. Show us you are worthy of SSRL, moderator- or even administratorship. You all have potential access to everything on this site

From: WT-Fakawi
But guys….Every forum on the net has its hierarchy. There are always hidden forums and secret alliances. I mean, you all know there is an "inside SRL…" forum for devs only, but nobody takes offence to that. Then there is ofcourse the Moderators forum, where we discuss users & ranks etc..Then we have the admin forum also. The list goes on and on and on. This is valid for EVERY large forum on the net. If a forum lacks these structures, they quickly perish.

So whats the problem? Yes we have a "secret" (woohoo) SSRL member board, and Ben has kindly donated his minimizable RS-client, but this is still under heavily development and is faaar from either finished nor solid, so there isn't any point in distributing this to the mass for it is not a workable solution yet.

However, I understand Justkidding's point of view. He has been here from day one, and I kinda forgot about him, but then again he has been away for several months, like many of you do. No need for examples I hope. I should have been more keen on keeping him aboard, but on the other hand, he is mature and things can always be discussed with me in a normal fashion, right? Besides, allthough I am one of the Gods around here, I have to share my position with other admins, so I try not to act on my own responisibility (usually) , but ask and poll first on the appropriate forums. If things have been unclear I apologize for that, but 30.000 registrees is quite a burden on my shoulders if you know what mean. Sometimes things slip through. I too have a job and a family to run you know, and we (admins, devs and moderators) are all doing this for nothing, and ask nothing in return.

Once again….. all boards have hidden layers! No big deal. Work your way up I propose. Show us you are worthy of SSRL, moderator- or even administratorship.

Nicely Put, I agree with that. We shouldn't get mad over secrets forums like you mentioned. All sites have them…Even Runescape has them, I have seen the moderator forum. Even bussinesses have them, like upstairs is where the executives work and you cannot go up there is sorta the samething in this case.

Exactly. Well put both of you.

You guys are right, but it can be a little thing why he leaves (and how other people think). All little things can make 1 big one, I talked about this with StarBlaster in private, i actually can't explain it that well, he get what i mean.

Aww that stinks man. Have fun in life. We will miss you :(

From: WT-Fakawi
But guys….Every forum on the net has its hierarchy. There are always hidden forums and secret alliances. I mean, you all know there is an "inside SRL…" forum for devs only, but nobody takes offence to that. Then there is ofcourse the Moderators forum, where we discuss users & ranks etc..Then we have the admin forum also. The list goes on and on and on. This is valid for EVERY large forum on the net. If a forum lacks these structures, they quickly perish.

So whats the problem? Yes we have a "secret" (woohoo) SSRL member board, and Ben has kindly donated his minimizable RS-client, but this is still under heavily development and is faaar from either finished nor solid, so there isn't any point in distributing this to the mass for it is not a workable solution yet.

However, I understand Justkidding's point of view. He has been here from day one, and I kinda forgot about him, but then again he has been away for several months, like many of you do. No need for examples I hope. I should have been more keen on keeping him aboard, but on the other hand, he is mature and things can always be discussed with me in a normal fashion, right? Besides, allthough I am one of the Gods around here, I have to share my position with other admins, so I try not to act on my own responisibility (usually) , but ask and poll first on the appropriate forums. If things have been unclear I apologize for that, but 30.000 registrees is quite a burden on my shoulders if you know what mean. Sometimes things slip through. I too have a job and a family to run you know, and we (admins, devs and moderators) are all doing this for nothing, and ask nothing in return.

Once again….. all boards have hidden layers! No big deal. Work your way up I propose. Show us you are worthy of SSRL, moderator- or even administratorship.

I think it becomes more secretive as people have to hear it from others, like I have. For me, when things are just laid out, there's no problem, even if I don't have access to it. TBH I don't really mind being kept in the dark because it's not like any of the admins have ever led us astray. We really are a family here, and in a family, no parent is going to discuss tax returns with their infant, or even teenager for that matter, as they usually know what their doing. It's just that sometimes I refrained from posting or asking questions because I wasn't sure if I was supposed to be talking about it because I had heard it from others.

I also know a lot less than a lot of Members here :p so I think this post helped me a lot more than some people.

For me, when things are just laid out, there's no problem, even if I don't have access to it.

I understand what you mean, but sometimes we can't tell people what they don't have access to, to prevent people from trying to be promoted just to get it. You see a lot of posts saying 'what script can i write to get members?', and for the higher ranks we don't want that attitude.

Those posts were *gasp* so good ;)

Show us you are worthy of SSRL, moderator- or even administratorship.

Can you apply somewhere for those or just have to wait?

EDIT: Trial time? :O

From: n3ss3s
Those posts were *gasp* so good ;)



Can you apply somewhere for those or just have to wait?

You answered your own question…you just have to wait…if you are worthy, you will be noticed…As posted before, anyone begging, asking or hinting at any of the positions,you will automatically be discounted as a viable consideration.

~RAM

From: Boreas
I understand what you mean, but sometimes we can't tell people what they don't have access to, to prevent people from trying to be promoted just to get it. You see a lot of posts saying 'what script can i write to get members?', and for the higher ranks we don't want that attitude.

From: n3ss3s
Those posts were *gasp* so good ;)



Can you apply somewhere for those or just have to wait?

EDIT: Trial time? :O

Hmmm, let's see.

From: RAM_RUNE
You answered your own question…you just have to wait…if you are worthy, you will be noticed…As posted before, anyone begging, asking or hinting at any of the positions,you will automatically be discounted as a viable consideration.

~RAM

I hope my post wasnt begging lol…

EDIT: By the way, if I remember correct, Spky or Pyro or Boreas or all of them said in some thread, where boreas told that such thing as SSRL exists, said that anyone can apply for dev?

Note this is not also begging, I just have lot questions lol..

EDIT EDIT: :( quotes from admins are scary :(

Yes anyone can apply for dev, you send in a dev application to Fakawi if you think you are good enough. There is no set application to use, you just have to say why you think you should be dev, some example of your work etc.

All existing devs will then vote if they think you are good enough.

If we think someone is a great scripter, however hasn't applied for dev yet, we will poll them ourselves. If S/he wins the poll, then that member will be asked if s/he wants to join us.

The latter of the 2 is usually how we do it now a days. Not many people who request to be devs become devs.

The latter of the 2 is usually how we do it now a days. Not many people who request to be devs become devs.

ever? or when they apply?

Hmmm so you can apply to be a dev cool. I will do that in a few years time (When i prove i dont always type slang ect…) :p.

Thanks for laying it out like that Fakawi. It can get a little secretive when a dev mentions something huge, like minimizable RS, for the first time you've heard it in a thread, and then people talk about rumors, etc.

Have fun without SRL Forums, justkidding. Never really knew you, but be sure to come back sometime and the devs can be nostalgic and stuff.

Wow didn't know you could apply to be a dev, interesting.

Anyways, I'm glad the SRL admins made a post about some of what has been talked about lately, I honestly think it will help. After the reconstruction and all the recent talks, I feel that things are changing… but it seems to be in a good direction and I'm glad.

Yes but to be honest, if i made something absolutely great but its not finished properly then i wouldn't go posting in the members section or anywhere for that matter, saying : 'Hey guys, i made this great minimizable bot but its not that great yet, but im just letting you know.' But then again, i didn't agree with it that it should be kept secret, meaning if someone asked you about any of it that i wasn't sure what exactly i could tell and what not.

I think the confusion over what you guys could say caused it to seem a lot more secretive than it really was, but anyways, it's over now and everything's cleared up :)

From: Sumilion
Yes but to be honest, if i made something absolutely great but its not finished properly then i wouldn't go posting in the members section or anywhere for that matter, saying : 'Hey guys, i made this great minimizable bot but its not that great yet, but im just letting you know.' But then again, i didn't agree with it that it should be kept secret, meaning if someone asked you about any of it that i wasn't sure what exactly i could tell and what not.

I'm not trying to get you to post anything here, but that's not the attitude I think it should have. SRL members is about not leeching, in addition to other things, meaning that me, personally, would fix something up if I see it and it's not working, or at least give it a try. We are supposed to be above leechers. Like I said not trying to get you to post something here, just my opinion.

SRL Members also has lots of leechers and leakers though.

Which would be part of the reason that SSRL exists, I'm guessing.

I loved Fawki's Post :p

'Although I'm a God around here'…first time to hear him say that :p

From: Boreas
SRL Members also has lots of leechers and leakers though.

Ah yes, I see your point.