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So, my neighbor's daughter is sitting between our houses using my wireless connection


Kik

2007-08-14 13:16:33

I'm a little insulted that she would just come over and use my internet, but then again we do have unlimited internet access and it isn't causing any harm (that I know of). Right now she's sitting between our houses on the grass with her laptop next to a tree. I don't know that much about internet connections - is she doing any harm? My bro bought a linksys wireless router so we could have wireless internet w/ his laptop, and I never bothered to do anything with it (I use a desktop).

Killerdou

2007-08-14 13:21:41

yeah speed will be slower sue her!!! but then again it might be taios…. lol

Tim0suprem0

2007-08-14 13:21:43

Hahah I used to this to my neighbors from our attic :)

[offtopic] Woohoo I'm still in your sig! [/offtopic]

Kik

2007-08-14 13:24:46

I don't notice any difference in internet speed - maybe she just likes the fresh air. Anyways, I think I'll just leave her alone - she'll be gone in a few days as I think she's only visiting.

[offtopic]And, yes, you are still in my sig![/offtopic]

Tim0suprem0

2007-08-14 13:30:48

Is she near a window? You could throw things at her.

Sp0rky

2007-08-14 13:39:25

Secure your wireless network with a WEP Key.

Wireless Encryption Protocol, its like a password, kinda.

That you only need to enter once, and then it is stored (but if the lil girl doesnt know it, then she can't get onto your network).

Bourdou!

2007-08-14 13:57:57

I think to set it you need to type the routers IP into the address bar, and a whole list of stuff will come up. (Usually the IP is 10.0.0.x). I am geussing, but it doesn't hurt to try.

n3ss3s

2007-08-14 14:00:11

yeah speed will be slower sue her!!! but then again it might be taios…. lol

Umm what's Taios got to do with that? Except yea it propably kills your whole life at computer after sueing Taios lol :P

Bobarkinator

2007-08-14 14:26:06

Lol, taios is the only girl who uses the internet,right? besides bebe? I'm pretty sure you have a good chance of not getting either of them;)

Edit: Is she hott?

n3ss3s

2007-08-14 14:45:39

Edit: Is she hott?

Hax her webcam :P
*cough* BackOrifice *cough*

Sp0rky

2007-08-14 14:56:58

lol, BackOrifice, thats old school =D

Im sure any RAT would do.

Emagdnim

2007-08-14 14:59:31

Ya to get to where you encrypt your router if its a Linksys it should be 192.168.1.1 if you need help and want to do this send me a message and ill write you a guide for it its not too hard.

Lalaji

2007-08-14 15:10:53

She can't sit there on the grass all day….

Just let her have it

Tim0suprem0

2007-08-14 15:12:41

I think my suggestion would be most effective.

Kik

2007-08-14 15:17:30

Is there any way to use shutdown /i on her? That'd be fun… shutting it down over and over again. Dunno if she would be considered part of my network.

Also, I can't really see her (at least not from my window). She looks to be 15-17.

And how would I go about encrypting my router? I've read about it - but the google search just came up with sites that say "encrypt your router using WEP, it's really good!"

Markus

2007-08-14 15:25:00

Don't use WEP, I can crack it in 10 mins, use WPA or (even better), WPA2. If you can't use WPA, use WEP, it's better then nothing and should keep most n00bs out.
Don't forget Mac adress filtering and maybe shutdown SSID broadcasting.

3Garrett3

2007-08-14 15:26:56

Wait, if you cant see her, and there isnt anything that shows she is using your internet, how do you know that they dont have wireless internet at their house?

Dude

2007-08-14 17:05:27

You can do alot of damage from being connected to any network, simple run of the mill packet sniffers will yield all kinds of passwords. I'm using Ubuntu atm on my network and can view all my sisters msn convos and logins to various sites. As mentioned above by Markus DONT use WEP, its too weak, very easy to gain access to busy networks with WEP. Even if its not busy, packet injection will do the same thing. Use WPA2 if you router supports its (I'm pretty sure it does, most linksys routers do). If you still want to as you call it 'shut her down' Mac address filtering or Ip address filtering would work fine. Have a look in your routers default settings (again depending on your router) putting 192.168.1.1 usually opens up your routers config. But it does vary from router to router. 192.168.2.1 may also be used. post the make of the router and i'll be happy to guide you through it.

Regards

Dude

EDIT: for best security a total wired network is best. Wireless is very Unsafe even WPA2 is crackable given enough time….

Smartzkid

2007-08-14 17:13:47

Don't encrypt unless you have sensitive data traveling over your wireless that needs protecting (or if you're in an area where there's lots of people who could have access to your network). Slows things down, and nobody likes that, right?

Just disable SSID broadcasting, filter mac addresses, and, if possible, do something like this: http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html

Or just go out there, and sit down by her. 'Sup?'.

Dude

2007-08-14 17:57:00

@ SmarztKid

Thats still amazingly insecure, mac spoofing would get round mac filters, and there are many programs that can see networks even though SSID is disabled.

As for the link, pretty amusing, works along the same principle as ARP poisoning

IF you have to use wirless, ALWAYS encrypt(unless your sending NO personal data what so ever( eg passwords, usersnames, emails, msn, yahoo, aim…))

Sp0rky

2007-08-14 18:13:28

From: markus
Don't use WEP, I can crack it in 10 mins, use WPA or (even better), WPA2. If you can't use WPA, use WEP, it's better then nothing and should keep most n00bs out.
Don't forget Mac adress filtering and maybe shutdown SSID broadcasting.


I can crack it in 10 minutes too with a portable version of linux, but thats the best security my router has.

/me cries.

Dude

2007-08-14 18:22:38

Unlucky Spork, what router are you using? Most companies have released new firmware to allow at least WPA….

Smartzkid

2007-08-14 18:24:39

@Dude

If you're like me, with the nearest house far out of range of my network, encryption is really unneeded.

But yes, not broadcasting your SSID won't do much for keeping your network hidden.

mac filtering should keep the everyday person or random passerby off a network, though, like you said, it won't keep you safe from a smarter variant.

@Sp0rk: What portable linux do you have that comes with wep cracking tools? Or did you make it?

R0b0t1

2007-08-14 18:31:23

LOL…

If she is connected, shut here comp off. theres a tut in the tuts section.

kaustav_002

2007-08-15 10:22:29

Hey if the wireless light on my modem starts flickering does that mean someones trying to connect to it?
Its usually supposed to be(as said in the manual)power, ethernet(connected to comp),and the 2 status lights link and act.
What does it mean when the wireless light suddenly comes to life?
And does shutting down the modem do anything?

Dude

2007-08-15 13:21:21

@ kaustav

I depends on which light is flickering on your modem, it's probably just data exchange occouring on your network ie information going from computer to computer or from computer to the internet (and vice versa).

Which light is flashing?

What do you mean by 'Wireless suddenly coming to life

And the only thing that shutting down your modem will do is bring down that section of your netwok(or all of your network if you rely on just one router).

Regards

Dude

kaustav_002

2007-08-15 13:24:58

1 comp>1 modem from telus>1 wire goes to the power, 1 to the wall socket, and 1 to the computer, so wall to modem to comp>that means the status lights and the ethernet light should be on doesnt it?wall to modem and then to my computer wich is connected to the modem, theres also a wireless thing for connecting to the comp.modem wirelessly. why would that come online

Dude

2007-08-15 14:32:39

@Smartz check yor PM

@kaustav

The flashing will be nothing to worry about. The wirless thing is a bit interesting, but it is more than probably just data transfering to and from the router. I take it that the wireless just flashes and isnt constant? It'll probably just be your router transmitting beacon packets (the routers way of saying "Here i am, come and connect to me!" And then possibly packets from other wireless users saying "Ok thanks for the info". Nothing to worry about. If it is on for quite a while and you dont have WPA/2 then get it.

Regards

Dude

Kik

2007-08-15 15:57:32

Okay, thanks guys.

I think my router only offers WEP (no option for WPA), so I'm using that (with passphrase and keys (wrote 'em down)). I also disabled SSID broadcast.

Pwnd

2007-08-15 15:58:59

Learn to encrypt your connection.

kaustav_002

2007-08-15 15:59:45

Do u want me to take a pic and send it to you? cos i dont have a digital camera .
the wireless is as constant as the other lights, it suddenly come on and stays on
its as constant as the ethernet light. and it pops up preety randomly then stays there. very very constant it aint blinking one bit.

and is this right
i only have one computer and 1 modem

Dude

2007-08-15 16:01:22

if you dont think your router allows encryption you might want to look into firmware upgrading.

kaustav_002

2007-08-15 16:03:08

rofltwaffle encryptions a good idea…so can you encrypt connections over an ethernet modem from telus. It sayd 2wire on the wire mesh thingy at the top,

Dude

2007-08-15 16:05:52

Best thing to do is look on your DHCP table and see what ips are listed (to get to the DHCP look in your router config (192.168.1.1) possibly different) then check the ips listed agains the ips on the computers you use.

Pm me if you need any help, can talk you through it on msn if you need.

Ruroken

2007-08-15 17:36:53

tell her parents :p

LordGregGreg

2007-08-15 17:40:11

oooh, that is uber cute! Leave the poor little girl alone, if shes so desperate for internet that she will go outside, then the small lack in your max speed is nothing!

Wanted

2007-08-15 18:56:46

If she isn't hott - just unplug your router, otherwise "blackmailing" is fun:sasmokin:

rkroxpunk

2007-08-15 21:22:13

err isn't she ur neighbours daughter not some 1337 haxz0r.

Jason2gs

2007-08-15 21:26:27

Just let her freakin' use your connection.

And unless you people can truthfully say you've never stolen someone else's internet, shut up. Y'all got no room to talk.

Smartzkid

2007-08-15 21:31:20

If you're not using the wireless bit of your network, just outright disable wireless?

Jason2gs

2007-08-15 21:33:49

*Hisses at Smartz and does the little hand-crucifix sign*

rkroxpunk

2007-08-16 02:02:39

Josh can truthfully say he's never used someone elses wireless network! :D

but that's only because i dont have a clue on how to crack WEP :(

actually thx to my sister using up all our download and putting us on dial up now might be a good time to try :D

WhiteShadow

2007-08-16 02:10:08

OMG That could be me!

Lol, jk, but I was doing this under an oak tree yesterday.

Pyro

2007-08-16 02:40:09

I dont have a connection at my house. I jsut got a good wireless aerial and luck enough there is a unsecured connection round me. It is fairly obvious if she is on your network. Well depending on your router. Generally it will list the address it has handed out through dhcp. You could always just turn of dhcp. Go to class b address and then usually no one is smart enough to put in a static class b address.

Not that many people remember them anyways. Most people use either A or C classes so you shoudl be fine with that. Meh. WHo really cares? See if you can netsend her. That would be funnier.

Distort

2007-08-16 20:59:32

net send * Hello there little girl, this is the computer talking. Do you want to go in a play ;)

I have mine secured (as much as wireless can be) since i have sensitive material flying around (card numbers and such)

da_professa

2007-08-17 15:05:02

Aww isn't that cute :).. Tell her to come to my house, my internet is pretty fast :p..

I suggest you take up on this "opportunity" and go talk to her.. You never know, you'd be telling ur kids how their mom stole ur internet :p

Hugolord

2007-08-17 15:13:13

From: da_professa
Aww isn't that cute :).. Tell her to come to my house, my internet is pretty fast :p..

I suggest you take up on this "opportunity" and go talk to her.. You never know, you'd be telling ur kids how their mom stole ur internet :p


ROFL hahaha!!! nice one haha!

cheezestix

2007-08-17 15:17:07

ey man she is not hurting anyone. just let her have her fun

kaustav_002

2007-08-17 15:27:36

And slow down teh internets!!!

Pwnd

2007-08-17 18:06:43

From: Jason2gs
Just let her freakin' use your connection.

And unless you people can truthfully say you've never stolen someone else's internet, shut up. Y'all got no room to talk.

I can truthfully say I haven't…. :duh:

Kik

2007-08-17 18:12:34

I encrypted it, but then decided not to enable it. She's not hurting anyone.

IEatJ00erBaybees

2007-08-17 20:55:28

Tell her you want to be friends, get her in a network. Ask her what she's doing. If she says writing a huge 10 page essay and she's 9 pages into it:

BOOM! SHUTDOWN /i!

He He. She'll start crying =]

bullzeye95

2007-08-17 21:03:10

From: Pwnd
I can truthfully say I haven't…. :duh:

Me too… Unless my aunt's counts :p

From: IEatJ00erBaybees
Tell her you want to be friends, get her in a network. Ask her what she's doing. If she says writing a huge 10 page essay and she's 9 pages into it:

BOOM! SHUTDOWN /i!

He He. She'll start crying =]


I'd love to do that to somebody! But it doesn't work for me :(

rkroxpunk

2007-08-18 10:45:02

Lol i dare you to strut up to her with ur hair combed back and shirt half open oh and don't forget the aviators then:
*DEEP SEXY VOICE*
"Hey babe. wanna come back to my place and err….watch some porn?"

she'll never sit close enough to ur house to be able to access the net again

Pyro

2007-08-20 19:16:47

From: rkroxpunk
Lol i dare you to strut up to her with ur hair combed back and shirt half open oh and don't forget the aviators then:
*DEEP SEXY VOICE*
"Hey babe. wanna come back to my place and err….watch some porn?"

she'll never sit close enough to ur house to be able to access the net again


O hell yeah aviators ftw :p WEll either she wont come close to your hosue again or you'll have the time of your life. Win win i guess.

legendaryhero90

2007-08-20 20:12:27

hack her :sasmokin:

Kik

2007-08-20 20:25:39

She left - guess went back home.

She was even out there at like 10ish in pitch dark =o

hardman

2007-08-20 20:45:51

idea's to stop girl from laggy up internet.

1.wet all ur grass around ur house..
2.take ur dog out for a walk (dont pick up the pooo)
3.ask her what the fuck she is doing a the kick here ass
4.when she is on ur internet turn box off
5. omg dont give me the wireless thing just ask her out :spot:







jk

gamer 5

2007-08-21 01:00:10

Make a WEP key its like a password.
Its very simple to set up. Just go to 192.168.1.1 in your address bar.
thats the default address for a linksys wireless router.
And simply read on from there!!!!!!

And if i were u ill hury because she can install your printer to her laptop over the wireless connection. That sucks trust me i had a neighbor like that. They would print things on my printer!!!!

Good luck with that :eek: neighbor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bullzeye95

2007-08-21 01:03:06

Guys, if you'd read, you'd know she left…

Jason2gs

2007-08-21 01:53:52

You could've just invited her up on your porch or something. Better than making her sit in the grass :)

Markus

2007-08-21 04:21:41

From: gamer 5

And if i were u ill hury because she can install your printer to her laptop over the wireless connection. That sucks trust me i had a neighbor like that. They would print things on my printer!!!!

Good luck with that :eek: neighbor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I heard of a few guys who got in unprotected wireless networks of their neighbors, then they hijacked the printer and printed out a page saying that "that guy living at number 23 would come to secure the wireless network in 30 seconds".
You should see their face when 30 seconds later you're in front of their house :D

Dan Cardin

2007-08-21 07:16:44

maybe she's just a hard core quake player but her parents dont like the violence:)…but maybe shes playing quake 3 online!!!


start moing ur grass and see if u can see what shes doing, or u could try and ram her. then she'll run away screaming, drop her laptop, tehn u can take it and steal ur own internet with it!!


ok, if u dont want her stealing ur internet, then i think the best idea would be to make a pw required to get on

3Garrett3

2007-08-21 08:54:10

Dan you noob. She left like 3 days ago :p

Harry

2007-08-21 21:03:53

Just let her use it, it would be the nice thing to do. That is what I do to my neighbors a lot, cause their internet pwnz mine :p :D

kaustav_002

2007-08-21 21:06:17

aRent you the one with dial up 56k
Besides she left as he says

Pancakes

2007-08-21 21:24:17

Guys… she's gone :p