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Ok, my dad told me today that he is going to install software or some program that will only let me on the computer for 2 hours a day, minus however much my brother goes on. Considering my brother is more of a computer addict than me, that means I will get around 30 Minutes or so computer time a day, so, no autoing, no SCARing, no anything. Does anyone know what I might be able to do to get on more? I dont know if I will be able to go 2 months/the rest of my life without computer for more than 30 minutes. Even two hours is small, But I guess if I cut out autoing completely, I would be able to make it. I still want to be active in this community, but with this time restriction, I might not be anymore… I want my computer time, and I want my autoing time, but 2 hours MAX a day is going to ruin those plans… :(. As I have asked above.. Does anybody know how to save my life/ computer life?????

Download and burn a linux livecd; it won't let you auto, but atleast it will let you get online. (I recommend knoppix)

use the spare time you have to get a job..
Work till u have enough money to buy your own pc.
problem solved.
(yes its that easy!)

From: Pietz0r
use the spare time you have to get a job..
Work till u have enough money to buy your own pc.
problem solved.
(yes its that easy!)

Hehe, thats what I did so I could buy a laptop.
Works :)

I agree with Smartz, linux is the way to go.
If you dont know much about linux just ask here and im sure lots of people will help you!

Umm, I am not sure but i have seen some of the programs that limit computer usage during the day and all you have to do is boot into safe mode and login as administrator (usually no password) and you are good. Although it is safe mode.

Otherwise i would say live CD is the way to go.

Or you could tell us the program that is being used and someone here might be able to bypass it.

Oh also there is another way to bypass it if it is a program that starts when windows starts. When you get onto the computer go into run and type msconfig and go to startup tab(i think) and uncheck the program to not start on windows start. That should work also.

Yeah there's SO many ways to get past that crap. Just get into task manager and end the process :p

From: bullzeye95
Yeah there's SO many ways to get past that crap. Just get into task manager and end the process :p

Umm, wrong. Depending on what the software is, he might not be able to. For example, try ending all your AVP process while not in safe mode. It protects itself, like other system processes. What you might need to do is to find a way to securely delete it from the system, either by gaining admin access and uninstalling, or through some other method. If you want to know more about this, PM me. I'll find a way for you. Been doing this for years now.

ya, about the idea to get a job, where would i get a good enough summer job to buy my own pc at age 14? ;). Even then, my dad still wouldnt let me play it :(. I think i will try some ideas to bypass it. :)

Edit: When my dad installs it, i will tell everyone what program it is, and im sure someone will help me out.

3garett3, we posted at the same time, so you might not have seen my post. It's right above yours.

Options:

1. Go to a friends house and sleep over :D They might let you on their computer if you teach them some "complex" scripting in scar.

2. Go to the library. It might not have scar on it but you will have time to be here with us :D

3. Ask your dad 'calmly' why he is doing this… Then tell him 'calmly' your point of needing the computer…. He might undersand and loosen the restriction over time.

4. Get a job…And buy your own computer.

5. Cry…..

Hope these help, including number 5 :D,
~Stupedspam

@Option 1: He can't sleep over every week, much less every day.

@Option 2: Libraries have about the same time restrictions as he will have.

@Option 3: I think his dad does it no matter what the point is.

@Option 4: Viable, yet I feel as though his dad won't be happy, as it seems as though his dad is limiting time on A computer, not THE computer.

@Option 5: Umm, ok?

Not to bash you, but just a friendly response.

From: Here
Umm, wrong. Depending on what the software is, he might not be able to. For example, try ending all your AVP process while not in safe mode. It protects itself, like other system processes. What you might need to do is to find a way to securely delete it from the system, either by gaining admin access and uninstalling, or through some other method. If you want to know more about this, PM me. I'll find a way for you. Been doing this for years now.

Oh right. I forgot I screwed with something (forget what, I do that all the time :p) to allow me to end any non-essential process.

Hmm, I don't know what you did, but yeah, usually, it won't let you end the stupid stuff.

From: mr.klean
Oh also there is another way to bypass it if it is a program that starts when windows starts. When you get onto the computer go into run and type msconfig and go to startup tab(i think) and uncheck the program to not start on windows start. That should work also.

Assuming that the program doesn't embed itself into your system.

I once had a parental control software that embedded itself into your system; When I tried to kill it, it also killed the system.

Also, some software lists itself as a service (services tab in msconfig). Sort the list by Manufacturer, then look for anything with the software creator's name on it

Be careful; if the software is embedded strongly, it'll kill your system

@Here- Option 5 was for comic relief because this can be a stressfull moment in someone life…

@3garrett3, I hope you find away to solve your problem

~Stupedspam

Uninstall the program? :rolleyes:

Check your program files and just flat out delete it, OR go to Start ->> Ctrl Panel ->> Add/Remove Programs ->> The rest is self-explanatory.

Let's hope my dad doesn't hear about this program. :eek:

EDIT: Rule #1 - Never talk about something you know nothing about (in bold).

I'll leave it up so you guys can laugh at me.

EDIT2: http://www.topshareware.com/User-Time-Administrator-download-40172.htm

Tell him to buy that, and if you and your bro are different users, set times for both of you guys?

ROFL..I'm finding some funny crap on download.com :D

http://www.download.com/StopGame-Office-Edition/3000-2064_4-10602316.html?tag=lst-0-5

StopGame is designed to help employers control the time employees spend playing computer games.

For the CEO who hired shitty employees.

get a bootdisk make ur self administrator and go *whammo* *Bang* *Crash* *POW and it should be deleted :D

if your not admin… start in safe mode.. then there should be an account named Administrator and then go to the ctrl panel and delete the thing… or open the program and edit how long you can stay on. But then your dad would get suspicious of you being on forever agina.. so idk…

From: wired16
if your not admin… start in safe mode.. then there should be an account named Administrator and then go to the ctrl panel and delete the thing… or open the program and edit how long you can stay on. But then your dad would get suspicious of you being on forever agina.. so idk…

You have a point. Then again, if his dad needs that software, then he's probably not there to tell him to get off.

My mom is thinking about doing this for me, I can tell :D 2 hours she limits manually, but I find ways to sneak on my dial-up, to spend time with you guys.. *tear drop falls out of eye* :p lmao

well, normally, the ways these work is. The person installing sets a password, and they can set a password or account to a time limit. there for, it will be running in task bar, then all you gotta do is, get your dad's pass, enter it in, and BAM! your in :P

Yeah, download a personal keylogger. Not a keylogger that sends that data to a server, a one that is hidden that you can view later to get your dad's password :p

From: Jagex_Fagex
well, normally, the ways these work is. The person installing sets a password, and they can set a password or account to a time limit. there for, it will be running in task bar, then all you gotta do is, get your dad's pass, enter it in, and BAM! your in :P

If it was only that easy.

That gives me an idea. Why don't you get an undetectable keylogger (I got one if you need it), then when he installs it, you'll know the password. Then just enter that in, as J_F says.

EDIT: Yup, hy said it.

:p That's probably one of the easiest solutions here

Good thinking!

Set up a keylogger before he installs it (either ron's or kane's keylogger should do fine)

Just incase, make a .bat file with this in it:

C:/Program Files/SCAR 3.06.exe -nonews -open Keylogger.scar -run[/scar]

And drag it to Start/All Programs/Startup

Then, customize keylogger.scar (or w/e you decide to call it), to hide itself as soon as it's started, with all the options preset (another recommendation: don't name it anything to do with keylogger; also take out any comments that mention keylogger. Name it something like 'RandomWallpaper' then make some fake procedures like Init, and Rotate, etc))

EDIT: Ack! Got beaten to it by two people!

Uhh, SCAR's keylogger isn't too great, as SCAR itself can be ended easily. I'll send you a local keylogger (one that'll only put logs into the C drive), it'll be better. And if you suspect me, put a firewall up, then block all outgoing connections.

Depends what keylogger you're using…

Also, it doesn't matter if the keylogger is ended, as long as he gets his dad's password…

I don't know if I am allowed to post this up here, just edit me out if I can't, here's they keylogger I use. It is totally undetectable even in task mananger. It will only pop up if you do the hotkey. :D I have gotten MANY times my mom has changed the pass.. :p

http://www.blazingtools.com/downloads.html

Ehh, BPK is retarded. He doesn't need something with too many functions. The one I'll send him is only a few bytes (if my memory serves me correctly).

i don't thing delteing the program is a option. his dad will see that the program is gone.
try to get the pass. or maby get it out of the opstart menu (forgot the realname :rolleyes: ). When you srtat your computer. the computer use a list of programs he need to start. Detlte the program there and it wont start up when your computer start, it will only start up when you do it by yourself. meh,, normal i use this to boots my pc because your pc will rune a lot faster. but it also work on this. (i had a worm in the past, and it also worked on that :redface: )
system mechanic:= easy program to edit that list;

From: rikjess
i don't thing delteing the program is a option. his dad will see that the program is gone.
try to get the pass. or maby get it out of the opstart menu (forgot the realname :rolleyes: ). When you srtat your computer. the computer use a list of programs he need to start. Detlte the program there and it wont start up when your computer start, it will only start up when you do it by yourself. meh,, normal i use this to boots my pc because your pc will rune a lot faster. but it also work on this. (i had a worm in the past, and it also worked on that :redface: )
system mechanic:= easy program to edit that list;

Uhh, we were also talking about reconfiguration, in case he doesn't want to delete the program.

When I had time constraints with a program I just looked at the password hint then phrased it into a question and asked my Mom and Dad :D. Worked like a charm. But now they don't even have that program anymore so it's all good (h)

The keylogger would be the best idea, and you could get a decent summer job at 14, at least in the US. I work at a pool, and I'm only 15. I only make minimum wage (which got raised to $5.85 an hour last week :p), but you could find a laptop or desktop PC on the cheap for a few hundred bucks and be fine.

Desktop for few hundred bucks >>> than laptop for few hundred bucks.

From: Here
Desktop for few hundred bucks >>> than laptop for few hundred bucks.

Indeed. Scar would prolly lag on a laptop, unless it was a high-end model.

Not just SCAR, but unless your looking for portability, you should buy expensive laptops, as they are virtually impossible to upgrade (except for RAM and sometimes processor).

From: Here
Not just SCAR, but unless your looking for portability, you should buy expensive laptops, as they are virtually impossible to upgrade (except for RAM and sometimes processor).

I believe you mean you shouldn't buy expensive laptops?

ok guys, thanks for all the ideas, but i think i will use the keylogger one if my dad decides to install it, hes being really slack right now, and hasnt installed it yet :)

My thoughts:

-You have spent a long time trying to figure out a way around it. You can spend it working on a script.

-You could get a job as a soccer ref or something. That pays GREAT money!

-Try talking to your dad and asking if you can run scar overnight.

-Use "Action Spy Keylogger" trial. (search google)

-System restore after he installs it. :D

-Give the comp a virus and run away? IDK….. ;)

From: born2code
My thoughts:

-You have spent a long time trying to figure out a way around it. You can spend it working on a script.

-You could get a job as a soccer ref or something. That pays GREAT money!

-Try talking to your dad and asking if you can run scar overnight.

-Use "Action Spy Keylogger" trial. (search google)

-System restore after he installs it. :D

-Give the comp a virus and run away? IDK….. ;)

1). 15 minutes maybe? I cant make a script in that time.
2). I dont want a job, and I dont need one. If I bought another computer, he wouldnt let me on that anyway.
3). I am going to.
4). I will if he wont let me do the above
5). I dont know what that is :p
6). He would kick my ass, he knows alot more about computers than me :(

lol. dude, I was only kidding about the virus thing

From: 3garrett3

6). He would kick my ass, he knows alot more about computers than me :(

not about SCAR scripting :eek: and btw i think you should first talk to your dad then if he doesn't want to listen make his life hard if he grounds you don't fall for that crap get out of your bedroom and open the tv again then when he gets really pissed and starts hitting you hit back (works like a charm with me and im 14 )

reasons that keylogger won't work

1. ur dad will c ur on pc longer (the program will tell him)

2. if you remove it your dad will find out.

3. overall he will think of something else to make u spend less time on pc :(


^
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My own experience :rolleyes:

:) you seem to have some problems like this too, only.. do you mean your dad actually beats you? holy shit! I know born2code you were joking about the virus, I am going to use Rons scar keylogger, cause i dont want to download anything else, and if it doesnt work, i will just bribe him or something :)

EDIT: I want to try the thing that smartz said, but I dont understand it really, could somebody help me out? I have the bat file, but i dont know how to get it into the startup thing?

drag it into the start menu.. in the startup section. and the program won't tell him how long it was on. not normally. i guess it depends on the program though.

If you delete the entire thing, he'll probably find out and just redownload it. Just delete a plugin or some necessary file needed to run it.

If it's not running and won't run when he tries to run it, then that would be as suspicious as the program not being there.

This happened to me.

What i did:

Brute forced my dads login. XD
Turned off the program.
When into my own profile and did whatever i wanted with please.
When parents notice say the program must have been fucking up.

Problem solved. :D

From: wyn10
This happened to me.

What i did:

Brute forced my dads login. XD
Turned off the program.
When into my own profile and did whatever i wanted with please.
When parents notice say the program must have been fucking up.

Problem solved. :D

Brute forced? What was it, like 5 letters long, no caps or numbers? A word from the dictionary maybe?

Here's from my 3 months trying to get rid of 'NetNanny' (i hate that shit to hell!) and the MacAfee Parrental controls:

Google for KBG keylogger, it pwns, can run undetected and get screen shots, websites, keystrokes, basically whatever you do to the comp, it records XD

orrrrr… you could write a brute-forcer (those things don't usualy count #of times you try to enter the password) and really, that's the whole reason I got into programing (not anymore though, I like it 'cause its fun XD) BTW, bruteforcers are A LOT easier to write in SCAR than in BASIC or AutoItV3 :duh: its like 3500 lines of code in autoit…

I'd use the keylogger but if all else fails, write the brute-forcer XD

Why write it? John the Ripper is more than enough. Anyways, KGB is detectable. Easily. Pack it and scramble the header if you want it undetectable.

Is john the ripper a brute forcer? If you are trying to find someone's password, I would suggest it, but I'm not exactly sure where the windows passwords are stored. I've heard many things, such as it being stored in some SAM file or somewhere in the registry, but I can't seem to find it.

Yeah…

@here lol I found out about Jacktheripper AFTER i wrote it XD
KBG actualy ISN'T detectable… It runs like a .sys app…
Please don't say it until you know it XD

KGB actually IS detectable. VERY detectable. Even ROOTKITS are detectable.

Please don't say it until you know it. I've been doing this for 5 years, give or take a year.

Some of those programs can be pretty complicated, and hard to end / uninstall. Your best bet would to be to get an operating system that can run off a CD - Linux has many copies of this, but one time I remember seeing a version of Windows that could do the same. But remember, you're very limited as to what you can actually do with these, but you MAY be able to SCAR / Auto. Maybe.

SCAR can't run on linux, and I have never heard of a windows liveCD. Once SCAR does run on linux, though, the world will be saved!!

[offtopic]
I am trying to make a SCAR clone for linux, but with the speed I make programs, and the fact that I am in summer school (for careers, so boring… lol) it won't be a long while until it even works.
[/offtopic]

well i have my own computer that kicks the shit out of my whole families (my dad knows i need the better computer) and if my parents tried to limit it i probably would just end up messing up theirs more than they messed up mine and they know that i would. lol i have them shaking with fear.

just a thought you could spend all this time getting extra time but wouldnt your dad just notice youve been mpre than 2 hours and just kick you off him self lol

From: Nontitle
SCAR can't run on linux, and I have never heard of a windows liveCD. Once SCAR does run on linux, though, the world will be saved!!

[offtopic]
I am trying to make a SCAR clone for linux, but with the speed I make programs, and the fact that I am in summer school (for careers, so boring… lol) it won't be a long while until it even works.
[/offtopic]

There is a Windows LiveCD. Search btjunkie.org for it. Next, have you tried running SCAR under WINE? Just a question.

From: the flea
just a thought you could spend all this time getting extra time but wouldnt your dad just notice youve been mpre than 2 hours and just kick you off him self lol

We've already responded to this. If the dad needs the program, then it's probable that his dad needs it to keep track of the time.

Steal the program before he installs it. Problem solved. :) At least temporarily.

From: crossback7
Steal the program before he installs it. Problem solved. :) At least temporarily.

Till he demands that it be returned.

yep, i have tried it under wine, but the crosshair doesn't work. Everything else works fine though.

My dad, most likely isnt going to install it, he hasnt mentioned it since this whole thing started, and I have been on the computer as much as I wanted, so its all good :D

From: crossback7
Steal the program before he installs it. Problem solved. :) At least temporarily.

Unless it's a download :P

But yeah I'm going to agree with everyone else and say get a Live CD/Keylogger/Bruteforcer

Anyone could get rid of one of those programs if they really wanted to.

Edit: Well that's good :) Isn't it great to be free :D

And btw, for a keylogger, as long as you can't see it in any of the normal places to look (toolbar, task manager, desktop) and he isn't VERY freaking suspicious, he's not gonna look for a keylogger…
EDIT: unless he's got like kelogger-phobia, then you're screwed XD

why don't you just create a hidden administrator account? then you can logon whenever your dad is not home. i actually found a way to have an account logged in on windows without it saying "logged on" underneath the picture so i can have my vm's autoing with the welcome screen up:D

um actually thats easy cause im guessing he will only limit the time to you and your brother so just start up the computer fresh and go into setup to make a new admin account on the comp or just change the password so you can get onto the admin account. thats what i did on old windows 95 when i forgot pass and it wouldnt let me on

if he does install it, keep telling him you have to do research or write an essay, that should do the trick :) (not for autoing, but def for forums time ;))

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lol? i only check the last one…

Just noticed now. Someone give in noob points :P

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