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What would happen if botting became legal and a feature?


Krzysztof

2015-06-02 07:52:36

Greetings

I'd been wondering that just now. I'll present arguments I'd come up with why Jagex should, and shouldn't, legalize botting. I hope this will grow into interesting discussion with many different points of view.

Why I think botting could/should become legal.
1. Regardless of what people think, people were botting, bot, and will bot. Period. But so far only the most dilligent and crafty can do so very successfully. Those who sell such services earn income, which Jagex could snatch if they presented a paid idle-bot feature.
2. Jagex has the possibility of making an update that would grant 100% ban rate on every single bot. The fact that they hadn't done so, as well as previous public reaction to but nukes (prices rising because far less people were doing mundane labor) brings to mind they need bots.
3. If everybody had access to botting, prices would sharply fall, and no one would have to care about spending time doing mundane labor. And also because of that, goldfarming would take a giant arrow to the knee, because nobody would feel that much compulsion to buy gold and spend it on shortcuts to train skills.
4. There are many reasons to bot, one of them is to not waste time doing boring shit and the second is that some people enjoy watching their character slave away, as some sort of auto-Let's-Play-video.
5. Bots still pay for the game. What's more, is that people also stop playing on a whim (and paying for membership). It's the constant updates and new things that are a major portion keeping the game interesting.

Why I think botting couldn't/shouldn't become legal.
1. Many legit players don't like ideas of unfair advantage, or having a robot do things for them. Some hate botting because of principle, even though if everybody, not only the craftiest, had access to it (more or less) there would be immediately less unfair advantage.
2. The economy would go insane. Not only that, people could get so bloodily rich there would be no need for them to go after any pixel wealth, or feel any accomplishment because of it. Even though it can be offsetted by tweaks, it would lead to the dangerous unknown.
3. Jagex might not legalize it on a principle, however after they practically introduced legal goldfarming, who knows.
4. No accomplishment in attaining skills, because everything would be granted automatically sooner or later, only a matter of time. Could be offsetted by tweaks and exp reductions, but still, dangerous unknown.
5. In case 90+% of bots would get banned, Jagex can always incorporate additonal sources of items. There was an update in the past that made many items available in stores in unlimited quantities, such as feathers.

All that came to my mind right now. I like extremes, therefore either ban everybody, and they didn't, so they should make things fair for all the players and legalize it. All the effort and behind-the-scene two-faced attitude on botting could be spend on setting a new balance in More-Than-Ever-AFKable-RS as well as new content.
However I am just a guy, just a player, not a developer. That's why this is a discussion and perhaps some daydreaming. Don't take anything here seriously, especially it's not our game being discussed :D

Cheers, and looking for responses!

Edit1: added 5. to Couldn't/Shouldn't

rj

2015-06-02 08:07:26

If bots are legal it will be easier for children to access it, think of the children

Hyperion

2015-06-02 08:47:06

From: Krzysztof
Greetings

I'd been wondering that just now. I'll present arguments I'd come up with why Jagex should, and shouldn't, legalize botting. I hope this will grow into interesting discussion with many different points of view.

Why I think botting could/should become legal.
1. Regardless of what people think, people were botting, bot, and will bot. Period. But so far only the most dilligent and crafty can do so very successfully. Those who sell such services earn income, which Jagex could snatch if they presented a paid idle-bot feature.
2. Jagex has the possibility of making an update that would grant 100% ban rate on every single bot. The fact that they hadn't done so, as well as previous public reaction to but nukes (prices rising because far less people were doing mundane labor) brings to mind they need bots.
3. If everybody had access to botting, prices would sharply fall, and no one would have to care about spending time doing mundane labor. And also because of that, goldfarming would take a giant arrow to the knee, because nobody would feel that much compulsion to buy gold and spend it on shortcuts to train skills.
4. There are many reasons to bot, one of them is to not waste time doing boring shit and the second is that some people enjoy watching their character slave away, as some sort of auto-Let's-Play-video.
5. Bots still pay for the game. What's more, is that people also stop playing on a whim (and paying for membership). It's the constant updates and new things that are a major portion keeping the game interesting.

Why I think botting couldn't/shouldn't become legal.
1. Many legit players don't like ideas of unfair advantage, or having a robot do things for them. Some hate botting because of principle, even though if everybody, not only the craftiest, had access to it (more or less) there would be immediately less unfair advantage.
2. The economy would go insane. Not only that, people could get so bloodily rich there would be no need for them to go after any pixel wealth, or feel any accomplishment because of it. Even though it can be offsetted by tweaks, it would lead to the dangerous unknown.
3. Jagex might not legalize it on a principle, however after they practically introduced legal goldfarming, who knows.
4. No accomplishment in attaining skills, because everything would be granted automatically sooner or later, only a matter of time. Could be offsetted by tweaks and exp reductions, but still, dangerous unknown.

All that came to my mind right now. I like extremes, therefore either ban everybody, and they didn't, so they should make things fair for all the players and legalize it. All the effort and behind-the-scene two-faced attitude on botting could be spend on setting a new balance in More-Than-Ever-AFKable-RS as well as new content.
However I am just a guy, just a player, not a developer. That's why this is a discussion and perhaps some daydreaming. Don't take anything here seriously, especially it's not our game being discussed :D

Cheers, and looking for responses!


Skillcapes would be meaningless. Nat farmers would be rich.
Children would be angry.

Don't think they'd ever do that.

yourule97

2015-06-02 08:53:15

If we legalize botting, just think about all of the gay hurricanes that will arise from the resulting wrath. /s

Ok, but more seriously, botting is technically legal, it's just against the company's TOS. I know you mean, making botting in terms with the TOS, but as a company, I don't think that Jagex will ever do something like that as it would go against the company's previous track record.

Ian

2015-06-02 12:34:50

It would probably result in the game becoming like a badly balanced private server. Levels and gold would no longer be considered achievements (even more so than now) and there would probably be a steady decline in players because of this.

ckbbe

2015-06-02 15:04:43

Or there could be a mode like ironman etc. for botting,you can bot as much as u want,but xp rates would be 3 times slower.
Afterall if a legit player spends 10h mining iron ore 25k/h and a bot would do it for you 30k/h ,there is a huge difference.
I was legit from classic to 2013, not a single regret joining the dark side tho.When everything else push aside then it comes down to a choice,u want a life or not,simple as that.If u are like alkanrs then go aheard, but take into consideration that he doesnt own anything,he has nothing.. no car,no gf,no midtown appartment, nothing.
Id rather spend my time making something that i love and bot aside,because rs is something that u know,i love it and there really isnt much to add to it.5th try going to comp.No regrets.

adc

2015-06-02 15:12:02

From: ckbbe
.When everything else push aside then it comes down to a choice,u want a life or not,simple as that.If u are like alkanrs then go aheard, but take into consideration that he doesnt own anything,he has nothing.. no car,no gf,no midtown appartment, nothing.


This has nothing to do with whether he plays a video game or not (disregarding the fact that measuring a person's success based on which car/house he has or how hot his GF is is incredibly stupid). This is entirely based on him as a person, not the fact he plays a video game a lot.

Krzysztof

2015-06-02 15:36:23

From: adc
This has nothing to do with whether he plays a video game or not (disregarding the fact that measuring a person's success based on which car/house he has or how hot his GF is is incredibly stupid). This is entirely based on him as a person, not the fact he plays a video game a lot.


Though I think he may perceive the person in question derogatorily, I believe he meant it it's either a life and little RS success, or no life and big RS success. Botting in RS enables quite a middle ground.

In current state of affairs legal botting would definitely be a big strike to the balance, that's what I meant it would require quite the offsetting. Still, it would be more fair to more players, not just us 'dark side' botters.

adc

2015-06-02 16:02:31

From: Krzysztof
Though I think he may perceive the person in question derogatorily, I believe he meant it it's either a life and little RS success, or no life and big RS success. Botting in RS enables quite a middle ground.

In current state of affairs legal botting would definitely be a big strike to the balance, that's what I meant it would require quite the offsetting. Still, it would be more fair to more players, not just us 'dark side' botters.


You can spend 6 hours a day playing Runescape and still be entirely successful. As long as you're consistent and efficient about your play, instead of spending half your time bankstanding, you can easily do a lot in that time.

mocrosoft

2015-06-03 06:40:37

I would make bank