I want to be very clear that I apologize in advance if any of my statements sound like I'm angry. I'm actually pretty pissed off and this will be the last time I reply to this thread, because your proud ignorance is extremely inappropriate. I will however try to reply to your statements in an orderly manner in order to get the point across.
From: Brandon
Every single person here can name the drugs used to "treat" ADD and ADHD: Ritalin, Adderall, Prozac, etc.. I can't name any other solution except a psychologist. The fact that crap like this is really considered a "disorder":
is just doctors making money off of you guys while making your kids retarded. I've seen the happiest most active kids in elementary turn to brain dead boring sleepy kids. Then when they finally accept what they're told they have, they just use it as an excuse for some mistake they don't want to take the blame for.
As I mentioned before, my girlfriend works in the Mental Health unit in the hospital. I couldn't name a single drug used to tread ADD or ADHD, except Ritalin which I vaguely remember from a kid who took it in elementary school. The fact that you can't name any other solutions is worrying.
Most cases that I hear about are behavioral treatment with supervision from Psychologists and highly trained staff (people going into social work, etc). "Crap like this" kills people all over the world. Kids take their own lives because of "crap like this". I've lost count of the number of times I hear "a kid tried killing themselves tonight". I just heard on the news that a group of kids killed themselves in my city a few days ago. They had been discharged from the Mental Health unit a few years ago.
From: Brandon
Being a supportive parent is one thing. Being an assertive/strict parent is another. There are parents that will support their kids doing ANYTHING because they're "supportive". That doesn't mean they're a good parent.
By "supportive" I was saying that the parent is not a "bad" parent. They are a parent doing everything they can to make sure their kid is able to live a happy and healthy life. Whether that be through traditional parenting or requiring mental help for their kid, it doesn't matter. A good parent is a good parent and there are many of them who are unfortunately in a situation where their child is not "100%" mentally.
Regardless of the fact that ADD/ADHD are overdiagnosed (I agree with you, it is), there are still many people out there suffering from completely legitimate mental illnesses. It would make me happy if you never had to see mental illness, because it's a terribly sad thing to see.
From: Incurable
I'd also like to point out that Borderline Personality Disorder is a very real psychological disorder that I have personal experience with. "Doing anything for attention" is a gross misunderstanding of the disorder (although to be fair, Garrett did say "limited understanding").
Thank you for the clarification. You're completely right, my understanding is based on vague stories from work. After some reading, I've found that Borderline Personality Disorder is usually only diagnosed in adults. Kids displaying these traits are simply said to have "Borderline Traits" and it usually comes across as impulsive behavior based on the need for attention. Some good reading on BPD can be found
here. I know someone who has a sister with BPD who refuses to get treatment. The quote that sticks in my head is "Every night before I go to sleep I expect a call saying they've killed themselves or someone else".
I think you've covered the rest of the points well, so I'm glad I don't have to make myself angry going over the rest. Goodbye thread, maybe something good will come from you.