SRL Archive - Bot Information and Spottings

Jagex internal Email regarding botting in Runescape.


anoobis

2015-05-09 21:41:54

Someone, supposedly an insider, posted a report on botting. Regardless of its legitimacy I thought it was fun to read. Thought some of you might enjoy it as well. Cheers.

Image:
http://i.imgur.com/6ga8AkX.png

Reddit thread:
http://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/35fxn6/jagex_internal_email_regarding_selling_exp_gp_and/

KeepBotting

2015-05-09 22:22:47

From: reddit
It's like a 7 year old dropped all of this into paint and went to town on it.


My thoughts, looks like this was typed in an old version of Microsoft Office. I question its legitimacy of course. Spelling errors and bad grammar abound.

Granted it is an internal email, so that may be normal, but it probably won't tell us anything we don't already know.

acow

2015-05-09 22:25:08

imo it's legit, was a nice read.

Unfold

2015-05-09 22:27:39

From: KeepBotting
My thoughts, looks like this was typed in an old version of Microsoft Office. I question its legitimacy of course. Spelling errors and bad grammar abound.

Granted it is an internal email, so that may be normal, but it probably won't tell us anything we don't already know.


It does make me wonder how other bot (like rsbuddy, pb, epicbot) were able to get back up after the cluster flutterer. According to the article, it creates new client for different geographic locations. Maybe that's why some European people were complaining rsbot was not working 2 days ago on pb.

KeepBotting

2015-05-09 22:34:38

From: Unfold
It does make me wonder how other bot (like rsbuddy, pb, epicbot) were able to get back up after the cluster flutterer. According to the article, it creates new client for different geographic locations. Maybe that's why some European people were complaining rsbot was not working 2 days ago on pb.

It took around a month for Java bots to recover. RSBuddy had a functional client loading very few hooks in a week.

powerbot occasionally has locational issues related to their server and CDN. I don't think Jagex uses locational data to any great effect, certainly not to provide a separate client to each area of the world which is complete bs imo, it doesn't even make sense.

anoobis

2015-05-09 22:37:42

From: KeepBotting
My thoughts, looks like this was typed in an old version of Microsoft Office. I question its legitimacy of course. Spelling errors and bad grammar abound.

Granted it is an internal email, so that may be normal, but it probably won't tell us anything we don't already know.


Yeah unfortunately it doesn't provide details on their "traps" but it provided some continuity to the development of RS for the past 4 years as I've been away for just as long.

It was surprising to me how small the color bot community was even in 07. I thought we were the bees knees.

KeepBotting

2015-05-09 22:39:45

From: anoobis

It was surprising to me how small the color bot community was even in 07. I thought we were the bees knees.


To this point, I will respond with a quote from a previous post of mine:

From: KeepBotting

As @samerdl; said, Simba has been and always will be a fallback, the thing everyone uses when nothing else is working. Granted, Simba has a reflection library for OSRS but the very nature of Simba and the SRL community pretty much renders that point moot.

Why? Because Simba, staying true to SCAR's age-old legacy, is not a bot. I want to call it a CDE (cheat development environment) but it's not even that. It's a program that happens to be very good at playing RuneScape (with the aid of SRL/SRL-OSR). Also by definition, it's nowhere near as user-friendly as other macros. The reason Simba has always been somewhat shunted to the side is just what I outlined earlier; it's a fallback.

I'm not even trying to be rude, I myself only discovered Simba after the bot nuke two years ago. I hadn't a clue that any color-based scriptable macros beyond SCAR ever existed. Why? Because I was sucked in by the bigger names in RuneScape cheating at that time: NeXus, RSBuddy, EpicBot, powerbot.

Don't get me wrong, I think Simba is the best macro out there, but it's just plain confusing. I don't think anyone will disagree with me on that point, at least not from the average RS player/botter's point of view (and we all know how stupid they can be).

Once upon a time, every RS cheater was smart and individualized and determined and willing to learn–but that's simply not the case anymore. And that's why Simba will always remain in the backseat.

Which isn't all bad! We have a great (albeit close-knit) community here. We can accomplish the same tasks in manners that other cheating communities cannot.

Incurable

2015-05-10 01:49:08

It looks like it was written as a hoax by a 12 year old, and the information contained is outdated and just plain incorrect. Page 4 for example says that colour botting is rudimentary and ineffective, but there's no wag Jagex actually believes that. That's the kind of thing your average "botter" would think, not Jagex.

I call fake, even if it is legit, it's full of crap.

woo hoo

2015-05-10 02:01:39

"Only 2015 members were banned in 2011"
http://www.pcgamer.com/runescape-bot-nuking-event-bans-1-5-million-bots-in-one-day/

Which clearly means :

10% * 1,500,000 < 2015

Mack

2015-05-10 02:29:32

Inproper gramar seems like it, maybe just troll?

KeepBotting

2015-05-10 07:57:52

From: AustinChurch
Inproper gramar seems like it, maybe just troll?


Yeah, sort of like you. Stop spamming.

E: To the poor, confused soul who derepped me for this post, I'd advise you to do your research before assuming that I'm attacking a user for no reason:


His introduction thread was fine, but then he proceeded to gravedig several more threads in quick succession, with posts containing similar content.

Hyperion

2015-05-10 11:27:44

Thank you, Mod Reach, for the e-mail we are about to receive.

My favourite part is where they said their bot nuke would wipe out 98% of bots, and "screen scraping bots" are the least effective, making up only 2%. :^)
"Randoms break the bot" Not anymore.
"Relocation of objects unintelligible to the human eye." Wouldn't finding the object on the screen work in the same way?

And I guess it can be said that they DO ban IP's, but only for goldfarming and powerlevellers.

J_R

2015-05-10 18:39:02

Why wouldn't you ban IPs if your goal was to eradicate a bunch of known (almost 100%) goldfarming bots (who probably won't 'quit' the game per se if you ban them) originating from a known IP? Seems like a no-brainer

Clarity

2015-05-10 19:19:07

From: Hyperion

"Relocation of objects unintelligible to the human eye." Wouldn't finding the object on the screen work in the same way?


By this they likely mean 1px movements or adjustments of item outlines or 3d objects within the game. They apparently assumed that doing so would break our scripts, but our scripts would have to be pretty terrible to suddenly stop working if items were moving around on the screen.

I think they assume the color bots are autoclick x y or if getColor(x, y) = someColor.

Their entire explanation of color bots in the earlier section (3 classes of bots) shows how little they actually understood in 2011. I wonder if they still think we are that simplistic.

jsand

2015-05-12 08:40:13

Without proper verification (which we'd never get) i'm going to chalk this up as fake.