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So, I finally get off my ass and learn how to write a decent script with around 1m an hour doing nature runes with a graahk, when they drop from 285 to 197 (as of today). The script dropped to like 650k an hour at best I think, without taking supply money into consideration.

What do I do now? I have a couple of high RC accounts left with nothing to do. Should I complete lunar diplomacy on all the accounts?

Is this RS3 or OSRS?
Edit: Sorry, just realized you said w/ graahk. I hear astrals has a high ban rate (might just be OSR though).

From: yourule97
So, I finally get off my ass and learn how to write a decent script with around 1m an hour doing nature runes with a graahk, when they drop from 285 to 197 (as of today). The script dropped to like 650k an hour at best I think, without taking supply money into consideration.

What do I do now? I have a couple of high RC accounts left with nothing to do. Should I complete lunar diplomacy on all the accounts?

What caused them to drop that hard O.o HOT DAMN

Only start botting Astral's if you feel you can make some god tier anti-ban :p

yeah, i have 6 nature graahk accs doing 60k+ nat accs a day. Im not even selling them cause of this incredible drop. I can't find the reason for it! i first though of wicked hood teleports, but you are limited to buy 20 per four hours so they are probably no t the whole cause. I hope they rise again cause i've got 1M+ nat runes in bank O.o

I think any time you have a 1M/hr method there's going to be crazy amounts of people using the method to make money. Either people stopped using natures or there's a crazy influx of supply on the GE. Sounds to me like there's so many people trying to unload on the GE that they're all undercutting each other to get their runes to sell.

From: Taric
What caused them to drop that hard O.o HOT DAMN

Only start botting Astral's if you feel you can make some god tier anti-ban :p

I kinda altered (aka stole ;)) Clarity's antiban for my graahk script, but I'm honestly not sure how intense astrals are being watched. I think its easier for legit players to report you if you run astrals in comparison to nature runes.

From: Lipcot
yeah, i have 6 nature graahk accs doing 60k+ nat accs a day. Im not even selling them cause of this incredible drop. I can't find the reason for it! i first though of wicked hood teleports, but you are limited to buy 20 per four hours so they are probably no t the whole cause. I hope they rise again cause i've got 1M+ nat runes in bank O.o

Oh god, are you the guy running lodestone nature crafters? Sometimes I see a few bots running around. But other than that, its the same here, I have never seen a rune crash so hard for no tangible reason.

From: 3Garrett3
I think any time you have a 1M/hr method there's going to be crazy amounts of people using the method to make money. Either people stopped using natures or there's a crazy influx of supply on the GE. Sounds to me like there's so many people trying to unload on the GE that they're all undercutting each other to get their runes to sell.

Yea, I definitely understand that, but nature running has been well known and popular for ages. The inspiration for this script was because I used to depend on a powerban script to run nats (back in the day), but I dont think they were ever this low even with tons of people doing it.

From: yourule97
I kinda altered (aka stole ;)) Clarity's antiban for my graahk script, but I'm honestly not sure how intense astrals are being watched. I think its easier for legit players to report you if you run astrals in comparison to nature runes.



Oh god, are you the guy running lodestone nature crafters? Sometimes I see a few bots running around. But other than that, its the same here, I have never seen a rune crash so hard for no tangible reason.



Yea, I definitely understand that, but nature running has been well known and popular for ages. The inspiration for this script was because I used to depend on a powerban script to run nats (back in the day), but I dont think they were ever this low even with tons of people doing it.

nope, im running nat graahks, with graahk and lunars.. but i want to know who is the son of a b*tch running those lodestone bots, there are TOO MANY. the other day i logged in and found 6 of them in the same world… completely bots, all lvl -60 with ugly clothes lol

From: yourule97
but I dont think they were ever this low even with tons of people doing it.

it definitely has*

Is it worth it to do diplomacy for mud or mist runes instead? Clarity's script is amazing, but I've heard about a few ban reports (not too worried about that), and that it sometimes won't run for more than around an hour.

From: yourule97
Is it worth it to do diplomacy for mud or mist runes instead? Clarity's script is amazing, but I've heard about a few ban reports (not too worried about that), and that it sometimes won't run for more than around an hour.

Surprisingly, I haven't had bans for quite a while now since my last ban wave.. But then again many bots were off the radar. Hell, even my tanner guy runs for more than 2 weeks now. Although you'd have to repair Clarity's script a bit or suffer from various cut-outs.

From: Lipcot
nope, im running nat graahks, with graahk and lunars.. but i want to know who is the son of a b*tch running those lodestone bots, there are TOO MANY. the other day i logged in and found 6 of them in the same world… completely bots, all lvl -60 with ugly clothes lol

Thats just the top of the iceberg. Cause there are atleast 1k bots getting rc up in f2p siphoning esslings. Was leveling test account for mud runes/smoke runes and every world has atleast 5+ of bots. The army is getting ready for more nats botting. Thats probably the reason. And so huge crash just shows how fragile rs3 economy recently became. Nobody really play it anymore, just bots left. If superheaters arent superheating or got ban wave then there is no need for nats. No demand and high supply is huge crash. Also bonds rising as hell lately because? because bots at some spots dropping like leaves and returning, because they make proffit within those 20 hours they get banned so bond atleast in some places might rise to 15m to be profitable within 20hours. At some places jagex just ignoring bots, cause if you get stuck 3 times per week 1-2 hours in a loop which is like 12 seconds and arent getting any bans on multiple accounts failing so much what else could you think about? Totally ingore is the only thought.

From: cosmasjdz
Thats just the top of the iceberg. Cause there are atleast 1k bots getting rc up in f2p siphoning esslings. Was leveling test account for mud runes/smoke runes and every world has atleast 5+ of bots. The army is getting ready for more nats botting. Thats probably the reason. And so huge crash just shows how fragile rs3 economy recently became. Nobody really play it anymore, just bots left. If superheaters arent superheating or got ban wave then there is no need for nats. No demand and high supply is huge crash. Also bonds rising as hell lately because? because bots at some spots dropping like leaves and returning, because they make proffit within those 20 hours they get banned so bond atleast in some places might rise to 15m to be profitable within 20hours. At some places jagex just ignoring bots, cause if you get stuck 3 times per week 1-2 hours in a loop which is like 12 seconds and arent getting any bans on multiple accounts failing so much what else could you think about? Totally ingore is the only thought.

Bonds increased over the past been because of the Treasure Hunter promo, The shark outfit is OP for fishing.

Highly doubt you'll get 15-20m bonds unless they release meteor shower and smouldering lamps b2b…

But yeah, I was really really amazed by the huge huge amount of RC bots I saw while I was doing the karamja tasks the other day. Can't say I'm too miffed about nats being like 200 a pop though, it's nice since I think prices are at a point where superheating isn't a shitshow anymore (on a side not does anyone know why runite ore is like 10.8k-11k+ (11k at times) atm, wasnt it like 10.4 or 10.6ish before dxp shenanigans, seems like it kept going up after dxp for some reason)

The price will probably bounce back eventually imo.

Yeah I stopped selling when they got below 280. Those loadstone bots must be the problem; they are EVERYWHERE.
BTW, how many loads per hour is the graahk method? I made an abyss script because of the easy reqs.

From: evilcitrus
Yeah I stopped selling when they got below 280. Those loadstone bots must be the problem; they are EVERYWHERE.
BTW, how many loads per hour is the graahk method? I made an abyss script because of the easy reqs.

I personally didn't count the number of loads, but looking back on the proggies I made, I think I was getting maybe around 77 an hour? It would be much higher if I had used npc contact, but I wrote a method to repair the pouch at Korvak. Can I ask how you got through the barriers in the abyss? I might just make an abyss runner for different runes.

From: yourule97
I personally didn't count the number of loads, but looking back on the proggies I made, I think I was getting maybe around 77 an hour? It would be much higher if I had used npc contact, but I wrote a method to repair the pouch at Korvak. Can I ask how you got through the barriers in the abyss? I might just make an abyss runner for different runes.

Oh wow 77 is way better than I was getting LOL. I'll have to make a graakh script for my main.
For the barriers I just look for them with color, and if none are on screen I move somewhere else with SPS.

Actually, now that I think about it, that number is pretty much almost impossible because i think running and banking is around a minute. I probably did something wrong when I got the numbers from my proggies. Anyways, the best I get with the crashing prices is like 500-600k now.

I'm pretty confident they will go back up in price.

From: yourule97
Actually, now that I think about it, that number is pretty much almost impossible because i think running and banking is around a minute. I probably did something wrong when I got the numbers from my proggies. Anyways, the best I get with the crashing prices is like 500-600k now.

Oh if that's the case then maybe abyss is faster?
I'm still getting over 900k/hr at current prices

From: evilcitrus
Oh if that's the case then maybe abyss is faster?
I'm still getting over 900k/hr at current prices

That's still pretty good, what were you getting before the crash?

From: yourule97
That's still pretty good, what were you getting before the crash?

I get about 45 loads/hr, so at 300gp per nat I was getting ~1.46M/hr
When I still had massive pouches I was getting up to 2M/hr

Nats just went up 50 gp overnight once the wicked hood teleports went away. Feels gooooood.

Looking at the 6 month graph of the GE they have been in a bear trend since the beginning of march and steadily declining since. The daily average does appear to be in the beginning of a bull trend, hopefully they will cross and the overall bear trend will cease. Also we have summer coming up as well. More people playing = more demand = higher prices. I suggest just holding them. Probably another month if you can, then selling.

E* what came out on march 25? That is where the price took a sharp dip from the normal trends, usually indicating a large external event.

From: King
Looking at the 6 month graph of the GE they have been in a bear trend since the beginning of march and steadily declining since. The daily average does appear to be in the beginning of a bull trend, hopefully they will cross and the overall bear trend will cease. Also we have summer coming up as well. More people playing = more demand = higher prices. I suggest just holding them. Probably another month if you can, then selling.

E* what came out on march 25? That is where the price took a sharp dip from the normal trends, usually indicating a large external event.

i think wicked hood teleports (something that lets you teleport to the altar through charging the wicked hood) its 10k per teleport, which when making nats its profitable.

From: King
Looking at the 6 month graph of the GE they have been in a bear trend since the beginning of march and steadily declining since. The daily average does appear to be in the beginning of a bull trend, hopefully they will cross and the overall bear trend will cease. Also we have summer coming up as well. More people playing = more demand = higher prices. I suggest just holding them. Probably another month if you can, then selling.

E* what came out on march 25? That is where the price took a sharp dip from the normal trends, usually indicating a large external event.

I like this guy. This guy is a real man's man. I've not heard a single person talk about bullish or bearish trends in literally forever, this makes me happy.

From: King
Looking at the 6 month graph of the GE they have been in a bear trend since the beginning of march and steadily declining since. The daily average does appear to be in the beginning of a bull trend, hopefully they will cross and the overall bear trend will cease. Also we have summer coming up as well. More people playing = more demand = higher prices. I suggest just holding them. Probably another month if you can, then selling.

E* what came out on march 25? That is where the price took a sharp dip from the normal trends, usually indicating a large external event.

wicked hood teleport tokens came out 2-3 weeks prior to the crash. Them becoming untradeable yesterday is the main factor in the current spike in prices

They allowed for profits of 2-4M+/hr via various runes

From: Lipcot
i think wicked hood teleports (something that lets you teleport to the altar through charging the wicked hood) its 10k per teleport, which when making nats its profitable.

That does make sense, when will they disappear from the game? That should normalize the price then after a week of absence ect..

From: 3Garrett3
I like this guy. This guy is a real man's man. I've not heard a single person talk about bullish or bearish trends in literally forever, this makes me happy.

Well thank you :) I like to trade Currency and so I kinda look at most graphs in this way. The GE behaves pretty closely to a real market graph. Easier to manipulate though. I always felt looking at the GE like a market graph worked much better for my investments in the market long run.

From: No Lifer
wicked hood teleport tokens came out 2-3 weeks prior to the crash. Them becoming untradeable yesterday is the main factor in the current spike in prices

They allowed for profits of 2-4M+/hr via various runes

Agreed, that does seem to be the reason so hopefully the market will stabilize when the hood is removed / more people superheat because of the cheap nature runes.

From: King
That does make sense, when will they disappear from the game? That should normalize the price then after a week of absence ect..



Well thank you :) I like to trade Currency and so I kinda look at most graphs in this way. The GE behaves pretty closely to a real market graph. Easier to manipulate though. I always felt looking at the GE like a market graph worked much better for my investments in the market long run.



Agreed, that does seem to be the reason so hopefully the market will stabilize when the hood is removed / more people superheat because of the cheap nature runes.

speculative investors have helped speed up the process of prices going back to the "normal" price range. =)

From: King
That does make sense, when will they disappear from the game? That should normalize the price then after a week of absence ect..

Looks from above that they are not trade-able anymore so I assume the price should regress back to somewhere relatively closer to the norm. I don't really know what they are and if they're obtainable still but the market seems to be feeling the effects already.

From: King

Well thank you :) I like to trade Currency and so I kinda look at most graphs in this way. The GE behaves pretty closely to a real market graph. Easier to manipulate though. I always felt looking at the GE like a market graph worked much better for my investments in the market long run.

*Cough* See the GE tut in my signature *cough*. I like looking at the GE as if it were a market graph as well. Quite a few limitations with the data compared to real market data, but it's actually much easier to work the market in the GE than IRL.

From: 3Garrett3
Looks from above that they are not trade-able anymore so I assume the price should regress back to somewhere relatively closer to the norm. I don't really know what they are and if they're obtainable still but the market seems to be feeling the effects already.



*Cough* See the GE tut in my signature *cough*. I like looking at the GE as if it were a market graph as well. Quite a few limitations with the data compared to real market data, but it's actually much easier to work the market in the GE than IRL.

Definitely! I'll read the guide! Should be a good read for class, my SOC 105 is boring me to death.

From: No Lifer
speculative investors have helped speed up the process of prices going back to the "normal" price range. =)

Hopefully they bring it up!

gah… after losing over 10 accounts all 70-95 rc making a nat rune script ( Huge middle fingers to you Mouse(x,y,mouse_left);! ) not sure whether or not to try again : (

From: theholyone
gah… after losing over 10 accounts all 70-95 rc making a nat rune script ( Huge middle fingers to you Mouse(x,y,mouse_left);! ) not sure whether or not to try again : (

Wait, you got banned at nats? I've been running mine for about three weeks around 8 hours a day. Did you really use Mouse(x, y, mouse_left)? 0_o

It only took me about a week, working an hour or two a day to finish my current version. You should look into it!

i run 14 hours a day and no bans evah

yeah, although i'm very late into the game, I have a working version. just kinda pisses me off after having to spend 15 bonds just to get to this place, and then I see a train of 5 nat runners in each world i'm in running smooth

From: theholyone
yeah, although i'm very late into the game, I have a working version. just kinda pisses me off after having to spend 15 bonds just to get to this place, and then I see a train of 5 nat runners in each world i'm in running smooth

Haha, I know that feel. Lipcot and I have both mentioned our disdain for those lodestone nature runners. They overflow each world and I have no idea how they can even make money with their slow walking and crap RC levels.

From: yourule97
Haha, I know that feel. Lipcot and I have both mentioned our disdain for those lodestone nature runners. They overflow each world and I have no idea how they can even make money with their slow walking and crap RC levels.

*feels a bit offended because im a lodestone runner*

don't know how to train combat / summoning to graahk without relying on injection. ( not going to ever use that again until its safe. doubt it will be though )

atm with GE price ( not accurate because nats are rising ( SHHHH DONT TELL ANYONE! ) ) im making around 700k/hr. i dont bot crappy lvl 50 rcs, but then again that company runs so much that it doesnt matter how low his rc is

NOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooo a lodestone runner (but if you are getting 700k/hr i might make one too :p). Can I ask what pouch repair method you are using? I wrote one for Korvak which is ok I guess, but if I could write an abyss dark mage repair procedure, I might as well just runecraft using the abyss. I'm also too lazy to do lunar diplomacy.

well.
< Flips 3 tables >

I think i'm ready to give up.

I have absolutely no idea what's banning me.
using same script template as my other RC script, only difference is walkpath and use of lodestone.

walkpath shouldn't be the thing thats banning me because im using 2 different paths.

so.

f'ing lodestone is highly watched / detected?

already added some anti-ban while using it as well…..

i don't know anymore. this is 16th bonded 77-90+ RC account lost.

i don't even know why I try anymore.

an entire weeks worth of botting for bonds down the drain.

From: theholyone
well.
< Flips 3 tables >

I think i'm ready to give up.

I have absolutely no idea what's banning me.
using same script template as my other RC script, only difference is walkpath and use of lodestone.

walkpath shouldn't be the thing thats banning me because im using 2 different paths.

so.

f'ing lodestone is highly watched / detected?

already added some anti-ban while using it as well…..

i don't know anymore. this is 16th bonded 77-90+ RC account lost.

i don't even know why I try anymore.

an entire weeks worth of botting for bonds down the drain.

I think the problem lies in Runecrafting, and nature runes, not in lodes …

From: theholyone
well.
< Flips 3 tables >

I think i'm ready to give up.

I have absolutely no idea what's banning me.
using same script template as my other RC script, only difference is walkpath and use of lodestone.

walkpath shouldn't be the thing thats banning me because im using 2 different paths.

so.

f'ing lodestone is highly watched / detected?

already added some anti-ban while using it as well…..

i don't know anymore. this is 16th bonded 77-90+ RC account lost.

i don't even know why I try anymore.

an entire weeks worth of botting for bonds down the drain.

the problem is you are doing 700 k p/h with lodestones (which is too much in my opinion).. Im doing Graahk with lunars and im at 1.1m p/h only. The key is acting like a human, taking breaks, absences, making mistakes, stuff like that.

From: Lipcot
the problem is you are doing 700 k p/h with lodestones (which is too much in my opinion).. Im doing Graahk with lunars and im at 1.1m p/h only. The key is acting like a human, taking breaks, absences, making mistakes, stuff like that.

Yeah, my anti-ban does seem to be insufficient, i'm just hoping that's the case, because my other script ran for 24hrs no ban using exact same thing except the nature path / lodestone

hopefully i can bot enough gold to buy a bond and test again soon, i no longer care how many accounts I lose, gives me something to do with my time off from work..

I'm not sure to what extent you've done this yourself, but have you tried leveling up other stats as well? Maybe do a couple of quests?

From: yourule97
I'm not sure to what extent you've done this yourself, but have you tried leveling up other stats as well? Maybe do a couple of quests?

Yup. that is 100% what's banning me.
Gave it another go. did a whole bunch of anti-ban ( not excessive, just a whole bunch in my eyes )

banned in 10 minutes running time.

account stats:

rc:92
everything else:1

the one account I have left that survived yesterday has a few stats up'ed from lamps.
going to try to get a higher skill total before next test


only logical explanation:

a level 3 running natures with 90+ RC is very suspicious.

From: theholyone
Yup. that is 100% what's banning me.
Gave it another go. did a whole bunch of anti-ban ( not excessive, just a whole bunch in my eyes )

banned in 10 minutes running time.

account stats:

rc:92
everything else:1

the one account I have left that survived yesterday has a few stats up'ed from lamps.
going to try to get a higher skill total before next test


only logical explanation:

a level 3 running natures with 90+ RC is very suspicious.

I think reports are playing a big deal in bannings nowadays. You should try to dress them nicely, and be sure to turn off examine settings. Also, I'm not sure how it works nowadays but I think that maybe carrying a weapon will make it so that other players also wont be able to see your total skill level. To get your combat level to a respectable number, I would probably do Vampire Slayer (1-20 attack super quick), and then the Waterfall Quest (will boot strength straight to 33 or something).

From: yourule97
I think reports are playing a big deal in bannings nowadays. You should try to dress them nicely, and be sure to turn off examine settings. Also, I'm not sure how it works nowadays but I think that maybe carrying a weapon will make it so that other players also wont be able to see your total skill level. To get your combat level to a respectable number, I would probably do Vampire Slayer (1-20 attack super quick), and then the Waterfall Quest (will boot strength straight to 33 or something).

ah thanks for that suggestion!

yeah, player reports are a huge part of the bans. lost 10 of my Rc in training guys ( all 88-89 ) probably because i had one in every world lol.

well thats that I guess.

time to quest :)!


edit: now that I think about it.. the mass lodestone nat runners are almost always lvl 3

From: theholyone
well.
< Flips 3 tables >

I think i'm ready to give up.

I have absolutely no idea what's banning me.
using same script template as my other RC script, only difference is walkpath and use of lodestone.

walkpath shouldn't be the thing thats banning me because im using 2 different paths.

so.

f'ing lodestone is highly watched / detected?

already added some anti-ban while using it as well…..

i don't know anymore. this is 16th bonded 77-90+ RC account lost.

i don't even know why I try anymore.

an entire weeks worth of botting for bonds down the drain.

The account is usually flagged for ~ 2 days before a ban is placed on the account. **NOTE* *The account**
So if you getting banned that quick at first AND training them that fast, maybe try slowing down how fast you train the account.

From: theholyone
ah thanks for that suggestion!

yeah, player reports are a huge part of the bans. lost 10 of my Rc in training guys ( all 88-89 ) probably because i had one in every world lol.

well thats that I guess.

time to quest :)!


edit: now that I think about it.. the mass lodestone nat runners are almost always lvl 3

usse themayors abomination killer to get 40/40/40 stats and lvl some random stats, WC, Fishing, stuff like that. Quests are not a must, but maybe doing atleast some easy short ones. Also, try not using names like 1291823928asdasdidcicj. I only bot in 5 year vets or more, not sure this makes a difference, but atleast its not a new account

From: Lipcot
usse themayors abomination killer to get 40/40/40 stats and lvl some random stats, WC, Fishing, stuff like that. Quests are not a must, but maybe doing atleast some easy short ones. Also, try not using names like 1291823928asdasdidcicj. I only bot in 5 year vets or more, not sure this makes a difference, but atleast its not a new account

yeah from what i've heard, new accounts are pretty much flagged just for suspicion upon creation lol

also think that script is outdated

So far earned around 60m profit from buying the nats when they were low, not bad for 10 minutes play :D

and the drop is slowly but almost surely starting again~

From: theholyone
and the drop is slowly but almost surely starting again~

And cosmics are still on the rise. Woohoo for me!

From: evilcitrus
And cosmics are still on the rise. Woohoo for me!

Ugh one of my accounts just got banned. Turns out it had a macroing minor offence from two years which I forgot about. I'm interested in your abyss script though. Has your account ever died?

From: yourule97
Ugh one of my accounts just got banned. Turns out it had a macroing minor offence from two years which I forgot about. I'm interested in your abyss script though. Has your account ever died?

Yeah it's a pretty low level account so it has died a couple times. I just wear a ring of life and it's no big deal.

yeah. natures are going to crash to around the 150-170 range ( if that even )..

From: Lipcot
the problem is you are doing 700 k p/h with lodestones (which is too much in my opinion).. Im doing Graahk with lunars and im at 1.1m p/h only. The key is acting like a human, taking breaks, absences, making mistakes, stuff like that.

Did you get your script to do this or do you do that manually?

From: Ampd Up
Did you get your script to do this or do you do that manually?

Yeah you can script those pretty easily.

Action like a human - Basic antiban + the other methods he's listed is incorporated into this
Taking Breaks - SRL has a break handler in the Snippets section
Abscences - No idea what this is
Making Mistakes - Create a chance error that the bot will misclick.

From: Ampd Up
Did you get your script to do this or do you do that manually?

From: yourule97
Yeah you can script those pretty easily.

Action like a human - Basic antiban + the other methods he's listed is incorporated into this
Taking Breaks - SRL has a break handler in the Snippets section
Abscences - No idea what this is
Making Mistakes - Create a chance error that the bot will misclick.

i refer (with abscenses) to stuff like:

mouseoffclient;
wait(randomrange(40-60 secs) //simulating taking a piss, opening fb, stuff like that, that take around 40-60 secs, which humans do a lot
pickupmouse;

From: Lipcot
i refer (with abscenses) to stuff like:

mouseoffclient;
wait(randomrange(40-60 secs) //simulating taking a piss, opening fb, stuff like that, that take around 40-60 secs, which humans do a lot
pickupmouse;

Wow all of this is stuff much deeper than I would normally think about. This is great, thanks guys

and hello to 200m magic off alchs haha

Start doing mind runes. Ran it for a month on an old account while they were still 90-100 ea. Made like 8-900k/h. And there's really no competition on the market.
Last time I checked they were 60 each. But might have dropped