SRL Archive - NOTA

a competition where @The Mayor; auto wins. post how long it's been since your home computer last shut down
I'm at a week right now

blow me away with your proggies =)

I reboot all of my computers several times per day :(

I'd love to see the up time for the villavu server @Wizzup?; @core;

reboot everyday :(

From: Hawker
I'd love to see the up time for the villavu server @Wizzup?; @core;

# uptime
 23:25:19 up 448 days,  5:22,  1 user,  load average: 0.57, 0.70, 0.75

my record is 3 months on an actual PC.

# cat /proc/uptime
4162820.71 3556775.41

(thats 48.18 days)

isnt it bad for a PC's life to have it ALWAYS on ?

I normally reboot every 2 weeks or so to install updates etc.

From: Lipcot
isnt it bad for a PC's life to have it ALWAYS on ?

I don't think there are any disadvantages as long as you have adequate airflow and cooling. Rebooting can be beneficial if you're running programs with memory leaks, or installing software that requires a reboot.

Some might even say that rebooting is bad for a computer because it causes a power surge, and individual components have a set number of power cycles in their lifetime. I don't know about all that, but rebooting via ripping out the power cord caveman-style is definitely not a good idea.

E: I suppose another way to look at it is shutting down, instead of simply rebooting. Where rebooting is going down and up again immediately, shutting down might mean you turn your machine off for the night. This would obviously lead to lower power consumption.

But then you could also suspend/hibernate instead of shutting down … and so on, and so forth

Mine's only been on for at most a couple hours. I use a laptop not a desktop. Damn though.. 448 days uptime :0

From: Lipcot
isnt it bad for a PC's life to have it ALWAYS on ?

TLDR at the bottom.

Yes because circuits have a lifetime and the more they're used, the faster they burn out or fail (most laptops give a warning when using performance mode or when the display brightness is extremely high as it will reduce battery lifetime and display lifetime).

What a lot of companies do is have two or more servers running in parallel. When it's time, they shutdown one and let the other one take the load and vice-versa. When the servers are under high pressure, they have a load balancer that evenly spreads the load across a set of identical servers/machines. The load balancer CAN let some servers rest for a short period of time while others do the work as well.

If you ever notice, stack overflow and some other sites actually go down 1 hour every day for "maintenance". Not sure what they do during that time though.


But leaving on a computer too long will ruin its life-time. Especially laptops. Servers are usually designed to be on long though and the components are usually hot-swappable/pluggable in case something goes wrong and also have daily/nightly/weekly backups.

P.S. I'm not talking about standby or sleep (which shuts off the power to everything except RAM) or hibernation (which saves everything to disk and shuts down completely).

TLDR: Yes it can shorten the lifetime of your components/computer. Besides, some functions in Windows don't work when the computer is on too long.

From: Brandon
Mine's only been on for at most a couple hours. I use a laptop not a desktop. Damn though.. 448 days uptime :0





TLDR at the bottom.

Yes because circuits have a lifetime and the more they're used, the faster they burn out or fail (most laptops give a warning when using performance mode or when the display brightness is extremely high as it will reduce battery lifetime and display lifetime).

What a lot of companies do is have two or more servers running in parallel. When it's time, they shutdown one and let the other one take the load and vice-versa. When the servers are under high pressure, they have a load balancer that evenly spreads the load across a set of identical servers/machines. The load balancer CAN let some servers rest for a short period of time while others do the work as well.

If you ever notice, stack overflow and some other sites actually go down 1 hour every day for "maintenance". Not sure what they do during that time though.


But leaving on a computer too long will ruin its life-time. Especially laptops. Servers are usually designed to be on long though and the components are usually hot-swappable/pluggable in case something goes wrong and also have daily/nightly/weekly backups.

P.S. I'm not talking about standby or sleep (which shuts off the power to everything except RAM) or hibernation (which saves everything to disk and shuts down completely).

TLDR: Yes it can shorten the lifetime of your components/computer. Besides, some functions in Windows don't work when the computer is on too long.

lol I was actually wondering about this when making the thread, thanks for sharing :)

From: core

# uptime
 23:25:19 up 448 days,  5:22,  1 user,  load average: 0.57, 0.70, 0.75

Too bad its not 625 or so. Then it could be called "Days since last hack"
@Turpinator; chuckles.

I don't reboot my PC unless I "have to". Usually goes 2-5 months between restarts.

Getting close to 1200 days on a few of my Unix machines at work.

my main computer not even half a day lol


this server is at least doing well

From: Brandon
Mine's only been on for at most a couple hours. I use a laptop not a desktop. Damn though.. 448 days uptime :0





TLDR at the bottom.

Yes because circuits have a lifetime and the more they're used, the faster they burn out or fail (most laptops give a warning when using performance mode or when the display brightness is extremely high as it will reduce battery lifetime and display lifetime).

What a lot of companies do is have two or more servers running in parallel. When it's time, they shutdown one and let the other one take the load and vice-versa. When the servers are under high pressure, they have a load balancer that evenly spreads the load across a set of identical servers/machines. The load balancer CAN let some servers rest for a short period of time while others do the work as well.

If you ever notice, stack overflow and some other sites actually go down 1 hour every day for "maintenance". Not sure what they do during that time though.


But leaving on a computer too long will ruin its life-time. Especially laptops. Servers are usually designed to be on long though and the components are usually hot-swappable/pluggable in case something goes wrong and also have daily/nightly/weekly backups.

P.S. I'm not talking about standby or sleep (which shuts off the power to everything except RAM) or hibernation (which saves everything to disk and shuts down completely).

TLDR: Yes it can shorten the lifetime of your components/computer. Besides, some functions in Windows don't work when the computer is on too long.

somewhere it was proven that with todays hardware it's actually more damaging to turn it off and on rather than have it go to sleep every night, since we're so good at idle voltage/power usage these days
I still turn mine off
it was somewhere along the lines of the hardware "is supposed to" last ~10 times longer than you'll be using it for, anyway. only things that really die frequently these days is hard drives, they're all pretty shitty though.

From: grats
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I remember that. Apparently it's because there's always an electric surge when you turn it on and off. But it's a myth that it damages it more than turning it completely off.

In both cases (sleep & hibernate), albeit 90% of the components are shut down and restored on resume so the same surge exists (probably just not as large). It won't make a difference though. Components will die eventually anyway. Leaving it on 24/7 will just reduce the life-time faster (I don't mean sleeping or hibernating). I literally mean "leaving it on" like a lot of botters do (24/7 dedicated botting).

From: Brandon
I remember that. Apparently it's because there's always an electric surge when you turn it on and off. But it's a myth that it damages it more than turning it completely off.

In both cases (sleep & hibernate), albeit 90% of the components are shut down and restored on resume so the same surge exists (probably just not as large). It won't make a difference though. Components will die eventually anyway. Leaving it on 24/7 will just reduce the life-time faster (I don't mean sleeping or hibernating). I literally mean "leaving it on" like a lot of botters do (24/7 dedicated botting).

yea
with how well ddr4 powers down in sleep we're probably nearing an age where laptops won't be powered off, ever.
and hardware today outlives it's usefulness, I mean even old hardware.. I have 32gb drives and 10+ 160GB drives that I raid in a server because for some reason, they're still working a decade later
I want them to die though
been getting this for like a year, shit still runs

WHY