SRL Archive - NOTA

Main culprit: @ScriptKiddie;, posting one-line posts (sometimes only a few words) on every thread he can find. He created five seperate threads for five one-line script requests (https://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112218, https://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112208, https://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112206, https://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112205, https://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112204) three of which have consecutive thread IDs. I PM'd him asking him to stop and he evidently ignored me.

Everything BotTheBuilder has posted is the same type of crap.

rs3flaxpicker went for a little bit and then stopped so nothing too bad there.

Hey man im not trying to spam im just tryin to keep this community active..

From: ScriptKiddie
Hey man im not trying to spam im just tryin to keep this community active..

No, you're spamming. We don't need your kind of "activity"

Unless you have something to contribute, a question to ask, or meaningful feedback to give, don't post.

Don't defend yourself. Just stop.

Junior membership should require X amount of reputation comments to receive it. That way people know the 30 posts actually have to be useful ones.

From: the bank
Junior membership should require X amount of reputation comments to receive it. That way people know the 30 posts actually have to be useful ones.

there has been much talk about the ranks, and i believe it has been stated that admins like it the way it is :(

From: ScriptKiddie
Hey man im not trying to spam im just tryin to keep this community active..

How is one person talking to themselves == activity?

From: Lipcot
there has been much talk about the ranks, and i believe it has been stated that admins like it the way it is :(

Makes sense, seeing as how none of them login.

Well I'm just trying to post on all the threads to keep them flowing

From: ScriptKiddie
Well I'm just trying to post on all the threads to keep them flowing

Nah you're being a dick.

Protip: There's nothing in the Jr Mems section worth spamming for. Like, at all. Infact, its pretty empty and pretty inactive.

Just change it back to the old requirements.. 6 months + 300 posts

From: the bank
Nah you're being a dick.

Protip: There's nothing in the Jr Mems section worth spamming for. Like, at all. Infact, its pretty empty and pretty inactive.

But… its where all the cool folks hang out

From: hoodz
Just change it back to the old requirements.. 6 months + 300 posts

It would take me forever to get 300 posts, especially if they have to contain meaningful information :-p

From: Ashart1025
It would take me forever to get 300 posts, especially if they have to contain meaningful information :-p

it wont.. i had to do it too.

Just report one of the posts and let a mod deal with it. ScriptKiddie received a warning about spamming 7 hours before this thread was made ;)

From: hoodz
Just change it back to the old requirements.. 6 months + 300 posts

this

or maybe 3 months and 150-200 posts

1 month and 30 posts makes the rank a joke. Anyone else remember when people got junior'd early?

From: rj
this

or maybe 3 months and 150-200 posts

1 month and 30 posts makes the rank a joke. Anyone else remember when people got junior'd early?

I remember when jr members knew how to solve simple problems.

From: hoodz
I remember when jr members knew how to solve simple problems.

I know that 1+1 = 3 tho… no wait :p

Thanks,

I've cleaned up the mess they left behind.

From: Hawker
I know that 1+1 = 3 tho… no wait :p

real junior right here ^


TBH Junior member used to be just that - a junior member. The 'new' junior member rank is more like a 'registered upgraded'. The current junior member rank should just be renamed 'Community member' or something, and make Junior member how it used to be. The current Junior member section could stay the same, except Community members could view the scripts. That way, people can still post scripts and hide them from a majority of the leeches. Of course current Junior members would be grandfather'd in.


Tl;DR there is a massive gap between SRL member and junior member now.

From: ScriptKiddie
Well I'm just trying to post on all the threads to farm postcount

ftfy, and now you're back at 5 posts. So learn from this, quit trying to justify it, and move on.
@The Mayor;, okay, thank you, I will do that from now on.

From: rj
real junior right here ^


TBH Junior member used to be just that - a junior member. The 'new' junior member rank is more like a 'registered upgraded'. The current junior member rank should just be renamed 'Community member' or something, and make Junior member how it used to be. The current Junior member section could stay the same, except Community members could view the scripts. That way, people can still post scripts and hide them from a majority of the leeches. Of course current Junior members would be grandfather'd in.


Tl;DR there is a massive gap between SRL member and junior member now.

Then what would the difference between community + jr member be?

If it's prestige, I doubt there's a point since there's almost none in either.

nothing's going to change, @Clarity; paid off the admins so that he could get more people helping him lower the price of mud runes (and everybody would yell at him if he released publicly)

From: rj
Of course current Junior members would be grandfather'd in.


Tl;DR there is a massive gap between SRL member and junior member now.

I wouldn't even go as far as grandfathering in the Jr+ members that don't have the new requirements… The ones who actually want the title would work towards the new requirements.
(I am aware that this would take away my shiny green title :p)

Maybe even throw rep into the requirements. Right now its only function is being a green box xD

From: Taric
I wouldn't even go as far as grandfathering in the Jr+ members that don't have the new requirements… The ones who actually want the title would work towards the new requirements.
(I am aware that this would take away my shiny green title :p)

Maybe even throw rep into the requirements. Right now its only function is being a green box xD

I agree with you and others. Most Jr. Members that are active and contribute probably wouldn't care if they (temporarily) lost their rank due to requirement updates.

I myself am an OG Junior, I got the rank back when the requirements were 300 posts and 6 months registered time. I have no complaints that the requirements were since lowered, I don't feel like it devalues the rank very much.

However comma, the problem lies in that the requirements for Jr. Membership are 1) low and 2) most quickly achievable by spamming the board. Honestly, I hardly even blame these people - I'd probably spam too if I was them. Doesn't make it okay, you can see their position. Forced to increase their postcount to access a higher board.

If one wishes to meet a requirement of postcount, what can one do except post? Granted, the 30 posts should be meaningful (introduction, asking questions, posting first scripts/progress reports/extensive feedback/constructive criticsm) but we can't expect to ever see that unless we proactively enforce it - and we're not currently, we're taking a reactive approach.

Isn't SRL about contribution and learning? Why, then, is our first rank-up dependent almost solely on postcount? Growing one's e-peen == attaining a rank?

I strongly agree with the reputation idea. Toss out the postcount requirement entirely please, suqeezing out 30 forced posts does not a Jr. Member make. Two (or more) green squares, however, and you can be sure that person is deserving of a rank-up.

From: KeepBotting
I agree with you and others. Most Jr. Members that are active and contribute probably wouldn't care if they (temporarily) lost their rank due to requirement updates.

I myself am an OG Junior, I got the rank back when the requirements were 300 posts and 6 months registered time. I have no complaints that the requirements were since lowered, I don't feel like it devalues the rank very much.

However comma, the problem lies in that the requirements for Jr. Membership are 1) low and 2) most quickly achievable by spamming the board. Honestly, I hardly even blame these people - I'd probably spam too if I was them. Doesn't make it okay, you can see their position. Forced to increase their postcount to access a higher board.

If one wishes to meet a requirement of postcount, what can one do except post? Granted, the 30 posts should be meaningful (introduction, asking questions, posting first scripts/progress reports/extensive feedback/constructive criticsm) but we can't expect to ever see that unless we proactively enforce it - and we're not currently, we're taking a reactive approach.

Isn't SRL about contribution and learning? Why, then, is our first rank-up dependent almost solely on postcount? Growing one's e-peen == attaining a rank?

I strongly agree with the reputation idea. Toss out the postcount requirement entirely please, suqeezing out 30 forced posts does not a Jr. Member make. Two (or more) green squares, however, and you can be sure that person is deserving of a rank-up.

You're pretty much how I was back in the day, and I'm one of the only people on the site to get auto promoted to members without having requested or submitted a script

It's funny that, back then.. junior members was pretty meaningful and even though I was a leecher, just from seeing what was around me and how they acted I thought I was doing what the average "OG junior member" should have been doing… getting my testers cup etc
I had hundreds of bots, and I tested literally everything.

I'd say you're pretty out of luck with how dead the staff is now though :D
back then everyone was very active

From: J_R
Then what would the difference between community + jr member be?

If it's prestige, I doubt there's a point since there's almost none in either.

not much TBH

Community member should be like 1 month 30 posts
Junior member should be like 2-3 months 100-200 posts

TBH the previous junior requirements were kind of high. A lot of people just skipped the junior rank (I'm talking about people who didn't come back after a break) because they got into members before reaching 300 posts and 6 months.

From: grats
I'm one of the only people on the site to get auto promoted to members without having requested or submitted a script

I'd like to know how that happened. I doubt it would be worth trying to replicate but dang that's impressive.

Let us say we actually did buff the requirements. What exactly would anyone gain? Assuming the Community Memebers(current Jr rank) still had access to the Jr only scripts then there would be no reason to upgrade to a new and improved title: Junior Member. Also, I really wouldn't want to go back to the old old requirements of 300 posts and 6 months. I'd prefer 2 months and 100 posts or maybe a little higher. I also like the idea of having reputation being worth something, as of now I don't see any use for it.

From: Trollcrank
I'd like to know how that happened. I doubt it would be worth trying to replicate but dang that's impressive.

Let us say we actually did buff the requirements. What exactly would anyone gain? Assuming the Community Memebers(current Jr rank) still had access to the Jr only scripts then there would be no reason to upgrade to a new and improved title: Junior Member. Also, I really wouldn't want to go back to the old old requirements of 300 posts and 6 months. I'd prefer 2 months and 100 posts or maybe a little higher. I also like the idea of having reputation being worth something, as of now I don't see any use for it.

'Community members' wouldn't have the black market or SRL-member application link. Just shooting ideas here we don't need a community member rank or whatever but the junior member requirements are kind of a joke. Junior members used to be 'junior' members, most had a little scripting knowledge and 99.99% were contributing to the community. People getting juniored early used to be sort of a big deal, now there is no point. Now the junior member rank is fairly easy to get and doesn't really fit it's title.

I like the reputation idea too, but considering 99.99% of users can only + rep that means inevitably they are going to get the required rep, it's just a matter of how long.

It would be cool if there was like an automatic voting system once someone reaches the requirements that juniors+ can vote on. Wouldn't really be worth the trouble though lol

From: Trollcrank
I'd like to know how that happened. I doubt it would be worth trying to replicate but dang that's impressive.

Let us say we actually did buff the requirements. What exactly would anyone gain? Assuming the Community Memebers(current Jr rank) still had access to the Jr only scripts then there would be no reason to upgrade to a new and improved title: Junior Member. Also, I really wouldn't want to go back to the old old requirements of 300 posts and 6 months. I'd prefer 2 months and 100 posts or maybe a little higher. I also like the idea of having reputation being worth something, as of now I don't see any use for it.

it happened like 5 years ago, and I still have no idea how
I did literally test everything that everyone made on the site for years, with giant bot armies and give detailed "what happened, what bugs are exactly where" etc

this was back when SPS was quite unreliable as (correct me if I'm wrong) it still is in OSRS I guess, just due to how random that is or whatever

but yea.. I guess it was just due to what I did, I was way more active than I am now and really went all out on testing everything lol, I noticed the tester cup is super rare too..

nowdayas srl is not as active as before, so 6 months + 300 posts would be pretty hard, i would anyway do 6 months + 100 posts at least. And a minimum of 5 reputation recieved or sth like that.. so other members contribute for you to become jr memb, that would be a nice way.