SRL Archive - Web Development

Need help from those who recently learnt them.. There are millions of tutorials out there and I dont know which one to follow.
Have prior exp in java, C++, basic html

http://www.w3schools.com/

That is one of the best websites ever created for learning webdesign. I took a web prog course a few semesters back, and that site was reference a lot by the prof. I personally use it more as a reference though, so make sure you find a project to do.

http://www.w3fools.com/

From: destinyxx
Need help from those who recently learnt them.. There are millions of tutorials out there and I dont know which one to follow.
Have prior exp in java, C++, basic html

never EVER use w3schools, it's possibly the worst website ever made for web anything


start your adventure here:
http://www.codecademy.com/en/tracks/javascript

From: grats
never EVER use w3schools, it's possibly the worst website ever made for web anything


start your adventure here:
http://www.codecademy.com/en/tracks/javascript

I shall look into codecademy ,thanks grats..
Also, do you ahve any idea where I could put JS into practice?

From: destinyxx
I shall look into codecademy ,thanks grats..
Also, do you ahve any idea where I could put JS into practice?

What do you mean into practice, like making your own website?

the best way to learn anything in coding is give yourself a random project and do the random project

genuine question to grats or whomever can answer it: why is w3schools hated so much?

I ask this question already knowing how many issues the website had in 2011-2013. I have been on w3fools and the last time that website specially supported their claim of w3schools being bad was back in May 1, 2013. Since then, w3fools have simply said a message with no evidence. So yes, w3schools had issues back then, but what makes it back now?

(honestly it just feels like a circle jerk now)

From: x[Warrior]x3500
genuine question to grats or whomever can answer it: why is w3schools hated so much?

I ask this question already knowing how many issues the website had in 2011-2013. I have been on w3fools and the last time that website specially supported their claim of w3schools being bad was back in May 1, 2013. Since then, w3fools have simply said a message with no evidence. So yes, w3schools had issues back then, but what makes it back now?

(honestly it just feels like a circle jerk now)

When I google for something I know good and bad practices
I click on a few links to see different ideas
w3schools usually has a bad practice with a decent idea behind it that I can transform into something I'd use

a new person has no idea what they're looking at and learns bad practice.. I just keep them away from that, because w3schools is rather unfiltered
vs lets say stackoverflow which is technically "unfiltered" when posting a "solution" however you'll have many people argue with them saying no do this instead or this or no that's bad.. and the author will usually edit to better methods. None of that exists on w3schools and it exists literally everywhere else.


other than that yes, they've re-written their entire site and their horrible javascript practices etc since 2013 and have gotten much better. But I don't send anyone to learn from something that isn't practicing the "latest and greatest" for web because it changes and by the time they're done, it's better to be merging into a new version than it is to be 2 versions or more behind.

the html -> html5 transition is very crazy and it'll probably slowdown a lot once browsers are done and standardize with the html5 etc.. back a year ago half of the stuff was -moz-something -webkit-something now it's just 'something' for every browser. it's weird how many insane steps they take for something you'd think they can flop out and be done.. but the w3 is slow as hell (actual w3 not schools) at approving stuff.. and w3schools is slow as hell in implementing changes when they happen or "was"

and that's just what I've seen and is trying to not be redundant on other rants about what's wrong with it.. there are plenty of sites that discuss the same stuff over & over

From: grats
When I google for something I know good and bad practices
I click on a few links to see different ideas
w3schools usually has a bad practice with a decent idea behind it that I can transform into something I'd use

a new person has no idea what they're looking at and learns bad practice.. I just keep them away from that, because w3schools is rather unfiltered
vs lets say stackoverflow which is technically "unfiltered" when posting a "solution" however you'll have many people argue with them saying no do this instead or this or no that's bad.. and the author will usually edit to better methods. None of that exists on w3schools and it exists literally everywhere else.


other than that yes, they've re-written their entire site and their horrible javascript practices etc since 2013 and have gotten much better. But I don't send anyone to learn from something that isn't practicing the "latest and greatest" for web because it changes and by the time they're done, it's better to be merging into a new version than it is to be 2 versions or more behind.

the html -> html5 transition is very crazy and it'll probably slowdown a lot once browsers are done and standardize with the html5 etc.. back a year ago half of the stuff was -moz-something -webkit-something now it's just 'something' for every browser. it's weird how many insane steps they take for something you'd think they can flop out and be done.. but the w3 is slow as hell (actual w3 not schools) at approving stuff.. and w3schools is slow as hell in implementing changes when they happen or "was"

and that's just what I've seen and is trying to not be redundant on other rants about what's wrong with it.. there are plenty of sites that discuss the same stuff over & over

ahh well thanks for taking the time to write all of that. it was pretty informative and now I do have a much better understanding of the issues. and i hate using -moz-/-ms-/etc. seems so redundant and pointless.

From: x[Warrior]x3500
ahh well thanks for taking the time to write all of that. it was pretty informative and now I do have a much better understanding of the issues. and i hate using -moz-/-ms-/etc. seems so redundant and pointless.

Yea I agree
I think that's their "temporary testing implementation" before it actually works.. but after it does work, they're taken out… (who knows what IE will do)

No no no, for the love of god, do not ever refer to w3schools! MDN is most up to date source with great examples.

And to be on-topic, I would really recommend you to pick up Eloquent JavaScript book, it's really good for beginners and best of all, it's free!